Turkey’s Plans for a $20BN Istanbul Canal
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- Turkey is planning on constructing a $20 billion canal across the city of Istanbul. Currently, ships passing through the Mediterranean and Black seas cross the Bosphorus strait, a narrow waterway that cuts right through the megapolis of Istanbul. However, the strait is getting congested and because of the 1936 Montreux Convention, Turkey collects zero revenue and has limited control over it. To solve this problem, Turkey is pursuing plans for a 45-kilometer long canal across the city, which would hopefully relieve congestion from the Bosphorus, collect revenue, and give Turkey more control over transit between the Mediterranean and Black seas. However, the project would also displace thousands, harm the environment, damage Istanbul’s water supply, and disrupt regional stability. Despite this, Turkish president Erdoğan is committed to the project and is hoping to start construction in June 2021.
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"Dangerous cargo will be diverted to the new canal.", but at the same time, they're planning on surrounding the new canal with residential and business districts and an airport.
I thought that sounded somewhat counter-productive as well...
Not to mention the hundredss of thousands that already live in the area.
You really think cargo is like cruise ship where it can harbour at ports for leisure?
@@harukrentz435 What are you talking about?
yes ı from turkey
At the beginning of the video, it was stated that the new canal was "Environmentally approved . . ." then at the end it's deemed environmentally dangerous? And if dangerous cargo is being diverted away from Istanbul, why would you then build cities around the new canal? Seems very confusing.
everything turkey approves is confusing
Welcome to AKP man.
He didn't say who did the approval.
Erdogan wants to build it, Erdogan has massive control over all the branches of governemnt at this moment. If he wishes, it will be approved. Doesn't matter if 95% of oceanologists, environmentalists, other scientists,... say it's a bad idea. He will make it happen. If the scientists won't shut up, he might arrest them (same as the naval officers). That's the reality of living under a president that's becoming more and more authoritarian. Undoing all of Ataturk's progress in the meantime.
@@crusherven So you dont know about our mighty leader which is an expert in economics, environment, population planning, military, education, sociology, psycology etc. He is the leader of the observable universe. If he says it's ok to build a canal there is no scientist to say he is wrong
You'd be surprised how patient people can be when it comes to not paying money
Individuals, yes, corporations are a different matter. We know that companies will pay tolls to save time because time costs them money. See for example the Panama canal, it's stupid expensive to use it, but it's a lot more expensive to spend the time and fuel to go the long way around for "free". Now that case involves a lot more time and also involves a lot more distance, but If this canal saves shipping companies 14 hours of waiting, they'll be willing to pay up to 14 hours of operating expenses to do so. The question is all about whether the new canal's toll would be set at that appropriate level. (Turkey may have envisioned higher tolls than companies are willing to pay)
time is money dude, sometimes the faster you manufacture the product the faster you sell it and if you lack components because of supply chains then not paying money might cost more than paying them. this is not direct cost but it is called lost income
@@Leoninardo
The Bosphorus is hardly an entire continent, like the the time savers you get from the Panama or Suez canals. The only way I see this working is if Turkey offers economic incentives, otherwise they have to compete against the Free canal right next to it, and Chinas new land routes.
Time they spend waiting is time they aren't spending delivering products, fuel they're burning, and wages they are paying. If the toll prices are calibrated correctly, plenty of ships will take the fast lane.
@@Leoninardo 14h in ship time isn't a big deal. The price will have to match. Sometimes there's a queue in front of the port anyway. I've seen a lot of ship wait the whole weekend to save some money.
Turkey: Let's divert dangerous goods away from major residential areas.
Also Turkey: Lets build 500,000 houses next to it too.
Bruh.. they are not building it for that reason. Its just another idea to make things better, why not ?
I mean dangerous cargo going through a canal specifically made for passage of large vessals is safer than it going through the bospherous where there is a lot of small ships , uneven terrain etc.
@@ezflow5819 its built for qatarian investors who already bought the place around the canal. also the 20 billion dollars is coming from qatarian investors. none of the national banks wants to give credit to this project because the opposition says they will not pay it. all of the surveys shows that akp will be gone in next election. so they have to find money from Qatar. they are not idiot as well. theyll get their money from the buildings they built next to the canal.
@@ezflow5819 did you watch the other half of the video?
yeah next to it but 50-100 meters away from it, not like now in bosporus where houses sit directly on the water, you n00b
So you're telling me, after a month in the sea, a ship would pay money to bypass 14-hour wait!
yes, they will, after the canal opens you are not going to wait for 14-hours to use the free one, you will wait a month and then we will see if you pay or wait a month.
@@voozeex oh that’s the plan
fast shipping is key. they dont go south of africa. they use suez canal. AND + turkey could just push them to use the new road because there is istanbul and so many shipps there is dangerous.
@@Knightfire66 But Montreax convention doesn't allow Turkey to prevent using the Bosphorus
@@voozeex Suez canal saves one to two weeks of time and ~3000 miles of fuel. This canal saves 1 afternoon which is no time in shipping timescales.
However,, under the Montreux Convention, Turkey can make ships wait for "sanitary checks", so Turkey can make ships wait long enough to just pay for the fast lane.
Well they deserved to be paid and they were robbed of that previllage.
@@ipadair7345 you typed a lot but didnt really say much. They deserve to get paid. It runs through their country, it's business and thats just how it is.
@@ipadair7345 all asian country pass from suez canal and pay egypt for the usage. If they don’t pay the can pass all africa to go to america
Same thing for the bosphorus if they don’t want to pay just use trucks and don’t polute the city
@@ipadair7345 bla, bla, bla. that's how it works everywhere around the world. You can't give me one example stating otherwise. wanna use my passage? then pay. And stop with the conquering bullshit, there are no corrolation with this topic
@@ipadair7345 I am not supporting the idea of Canal but I wanna say something about your ideas. I don't know which country you're from but hundred percent sure that your ancestors didn't spawn to your hometown peacefully. It's not a healthy way to look past with ideology of today. Also once again I am not supporting canal but you have no right to decide what we can do with our land. We don't need to be a hypernationalist to propose ideas about OUR OWN land. :)
i cant imagine a more lovely place to live than right next to a massive shipping lane with big fucking cargo ships passing all day every day
which have some of the nastiest fuel and exhaust too
@@oghuzkhan5117 canal view is far from a sea view, and we dont have basements down under
@@oghuzkhan5117 idk what sea youve seen, the suez canal is 225m across, you can look at pics of that and it looks like a river, just with massive container ships in it. All i can say is, i wouldnt wanna live there.
you'd be surprised. Bosphorus, for one, is amazing to look at. There is something soothing about the traffic.
@@suleymanakcay5260 if u didnt care u wudnt be making so much noise about it
This is the way transfer government money to specific construction company.
who then kickback some of the project overruns to the politicians friends and family.
how will they build the canal when they transfer the whole money. Its not make sense
yes you are right, turks think like this too
Legit the 20 billion will disappear Nd the canal won’t be finished
@@emreduran3613 they take more money than they need it to
Some guy in Turkey: "Hey Mehmet, you know whats better than the bosporus straight? 2 bosporus straights."
@@sammie9999 has any strait have been straight I mean really, can you expect nature to make a perfectly straight line?
or a flush, of cash
Some hundred years from now
WE HAVE BUILT 40 CANALS
Who is mehmet? Are just being racist or do you fear naming names and make up one? Just say "tayyip" instead :) then you dont need to awkwardly use the only name you know assuming it could be common in Turkey. Ignorance can be bliss sometimes, but racism is simply racism.
@@vilse9901 calm down
There are several problems with this video;
1) The overall risk of passage through the Bosphorus is massive due to very dangerous zigzag curves. There are many accidents while sea vessels trying to pass. You can find footage of the recent ones on youtube.
2) Proposed canal (Although, I disagree with the chosen route) is more linear with safer curves, hence it highly reduces the risk of any problems while passing through.
3) Most of the planned residential areas, airport, and other structures will leave a buffer zone distance between themselves and the canal route, so any possible accident won't affect the structures.
4) Montreux agreement cannot be bypassed with the canal. This is a misunderstanding by the video's maker. Even with the canal, Marmara sea passages will be overseen by the Montreux agreement. To bypass the Montreux, one needs to create a canal from the black sea directly to the Aegean sea. Montreux agreement oversees all passages from the black sea to Marmara and, Marmara to Aegean by straits (and vice versa).
5) If Turkey uses the proposed price of passage by the Montreux agreement, the country would get around 3-4 billion dollars annually. However, due to some political problems in history, Turkey greatly discounts the price of passage for the last 30-40 years which earns around 150 million dollars annually.
There are other problematic parts of this video but I will not go in to detail due to some of them still being discussed in Turkey's political and academic circles. Personally, as a Turkish Citizen and a civil and transportation engineer with a Ph.D., I don't disagree with the idea. This is not a new idea for Istanbul, it got hundreds of years of history behind it. I think the country needs it at some point. However, chosen route for the canal is not right in my opinion and makes it more expensive. And most importantly, this is not a priority for Istanbul at least for another 5 years. But, I would warn the watchers of this video that, this type of videos is mostly created by surface information and not in-depth knowledge (which is understandable, you need to learn Turkish to get more in-depth information first).
Best Regards,
SG
The Panama Canal reduce the shipping distance from the Atlantic to the Pacific by 15,000 km. The Seuz Canal shorten the shipping route by 8,900 km. The proposed Istanbul Canal will increase the shipping distance by 14 km.
since it has no goal in reducing distance, but averting an agreement that is only beneficial to everyone else, but the owners of the territory and the ones who has to maintain it, it is a valid demand, in reality, the montreux convention should have been invalidated long ago, but it is way to convenient for russia and even to the other major players, so it is still forced on turkey.
you just didnt get it
Chi-Jen Yang
You failed to mention that time is money. It's not about the distance in this particular case.
@@thorin1045 *too
Otherwise, spot on.
@@thorin1045 considering that Turkey originally wasn't even supposed to control the Bosporus (or have any possessions in Europe whatsoever), they got off lightly.
The question is: which companies will get the juicy business of digging the canal, building the bridges etc.
It´s the same one that got the new Istanbul Airport and Erdogan´s Palace in Ankara.
It is Qatar family. They bought al the lands around when it was nothing. Now there is a canal next to it, and the the land will be 1000 times more than the price they have purchased. They are getting the juice :)
I wander who and how much they bribed :D
the northern part of the canal is called district of başakşehir and oftenly labelled as the district of erdoğan. ministers and qatari arabs have lands to sell there. even there is a football club called başakşehir fk which is offically sponsored by ministry of health. erdoğan is trying to increase his gains from başakşehir and create a ideal city center fulfilled with erdoğan voters that can be herded easily
Russians will be all over it
@@starter0951 Good point, but probably the workforce will be mostly Turkish, paid by a Chinese or Russian company. It will be a contest, but Russia might have the advantage over China because of the energy dependence factor. Although Turkey is part of the PRC globalization takeover known as the Belt and Road, so we gonna' see...
-ships with dangerous cargo in them could use the canal as it is safer cuz unpopulated and stuff
-planning to build a whole new city near the canal.
bruh
Hypocrisy at its finest. I hope the mayor of Istanbul won't let this happen. At least as long as he is not in jail yet.
@Trolse komik değilse daha komik :):)):):) As a Turk, I do not want the geography of such an old and historic land to be destroyed
@Trolse komik değilse daha komik :):)):):) Ne diyorsun? Vata’nin parasi yok bu adamlar gidip her seyi katar’a satiyor, bi git ya.
@Trolse komik değilse daha komik :):)):):) yürü git ya, kanalın yanındaki toprakları Berat Albayrak ve Katarlılar alıyor, biz ise 80 TL lik köprü geçiş ücreti vericez. Kendi ülkemde 2. Sınıf vatandaşı olmak istemiyorum
@Trolse komik değilse daha komik :):)):):)
Turkey have no(few) natural resources (oil, gas, earth minerals) so they have to looks something to fill their pocket & jobs for their citizens. tourism, transportation, logistics, manufacturing. So, they have to build robust & massive infrastructures.
Canal Istanbul will create thousands jobs(or millions indirect) and huge mone from ships & bridges
Turkey: let’s divert dangerous material away from the city
Also Turkey: let’s build a whole bunch of new residential around that
Erdogan ≠ Turkey
Don’t you think the government has thought about these things? Think twice before commenting👉😕
The buildings will be on higher ground though.
@@D-TopG It's Erdogan, have you ever seen his influence on Turkey. He has so much influence that he can undermine all of Ataturk's constitutional law in Turkey and Ataturk was an benevolent dictator that was respected by most turkish people, which means Erdogan is no less than a dictator by this point.
this is actually what will happen
Turkey: *plans $20B+ for a canal*
Evergiven: I'm about to end this man's whole career!
@Jeka Jeka a ship that got in between the Suez Canal, it was supposed to go through the suez canal but tilted and blocked it which made a big loss for days
that's actually a good argument for making the canal. If one gets blocked, you have a backup.
@@user-wv1in4pz2w but it would take time removing the ship and cause a delay
@@hadilol got stuck in the suez canal not the Nile river.
@@ahmed15661 lmao NILE RIVER 😂
That explosion was cause by unsafe storage in a LAND BASE BUILDING not a ship
makes no difference, ship explosions happen the same way
Search up the halifax explosion
It was base storage for Hisballa.
@@suntzu2812 Ship explosions are very rare and if they are going to build all this other stuff alongside the new canal its a moot point , you are just transferring the danger to another place
@@kasperjepsen6867 That was a munition ship , and it was a very rare thing to happen . Ships do not carry that sort of cargo these days
As a Turkish citisen I must say this is a way to make construction companies rich while using our taxes...
Lol this project will benefit the state in long run
@@captainthanos8025 He is disapproving because Turkey's economy hit the bottom because of construction companies. Years ago, They built soo many houses and other buildings, they still do but no one bought them and all the money is wasted. So basically he's saying, if construction companies gets richer, they are going to waste all the "construction investment" money on wrong investments again.
@@anubis22 Dude, some Turks (Anatolian Azerbaijan Turkmenistan) look like Europeans, some (Uzbek Kazakh Kyrgyz) look like Chinese. What is the reason for this I'm solving a riddle The answer is not on the internet
@@marcopellegrini5869 I don't have the proper knowledge of the subject. But based on my history knowledge, Turks in the South or East side of Middle Asia are under the Chinese influence, always has been and still is. Turks in the North of Middle Asia and Azerbaijan are heavily affected by the USSR at the time. But if you are asking for a short term for it, I don't really know, sorry.
@@anubis22 Anatolia ?
"A day later, 10 were arrested" seems like a tradition over there
We Turks are very committed to our traditions.😔
@ALP KURTULUŞ if it would be up to you turkey having the biggest number of ICUs in Europe was a unnecessary taxation 🤦♂️ stuff like this is what a economy needs that will just pull in more investors but people like you do not understand it
@@ston210 lol taxes dont fully go back to the country, 50% go to the govt
@@ston210 you can watch sedat pekers(turkeys most known mafia leader) videos. He tells what do they do with our “economy needs”
@@kemalayman8539 So you choose a criminal, a mobster, a drug dealer to be your credible information source? What the hell is wrong with you people?!
How are the drawbacks of cargo ships being close to city solved if they're gonna build a new city around the new canal? I don't get it
It won't LOL. They'll just get themselves rich with this alibi
50 meters of the shore will be park and nature. The houses will not be built right on the canal but 50 to 100 meters away
Because its just an excuse lol
i heard there is enough place for buildings cause there is many mountains and i dont think they will build it directly beside the canal furthermore the buildings around bosphorus are historical and much more important
"Mr. President, the economy is busted, how can we fix this?"
"lmao just build a canal"
THE ECONOMY IS VERY GOOD, JUST SO MANY ENVY CRUSADER EYES AGAINST TURKEY!
@@rtchakar Tell that to the Turkish Lira’s inflation rate😂😂
@@rtchakar aynen kanka
$20 billion dollars seems an absurdly optimistic cost estimate. I'll bet the bakeesh alone will be half that. Where do they plan to move all that dirt and rock and what's the plan to service it to keep it open. Realistically it needs to be two parallel canals so that you can have two way traffic
20$ is just the cost of canal. Bridges cities and ports arent included. The real price is way higher, Erdoğan says canal will cost 20$ all the time to make it look cheaper.
@@emrekermen5334 no the entire project will be 20billion and not a DIME will be payed from gouverment money. Private investers are going to pay for everything and they are going to run it for 15 years. while paying taxxes etc to the gouverment and after 15 years they will transfer it to the gouverment for free. Its a PPP project
@@oghuzkhan5117 ingilizce düşünmek istemedim.
Şu ana dek yapılan kar garantili projelere bak lütfen. Neredeyse hiçbiri kullanılmıyor ve bütün garantili karı devlet ödüyor, tam kapanmada bile kullanılmayan yol için para ödeniyor( ki anlaşma gereği ödememesi gerek) Bu projenin diğer hepsinden farklı olacağını neden düşünüyorsun? Gemi yolculukları zaten aylar sürüyor 14 saatlik beklemeyi hiçbir şirket sorun etmez, zaten ortalama bir geminin 14 saatlik bekleme maliyetinden ucuza her gün 130 gemi geçse bile 15 yılda söz verilecek olan miktar kadar kar edilemiyor. Yani para yine senin cebinden çıkacak. Geçmeyen gemilerin parasını biz ödeyeceğiz.
DENİZ DOLDURMAYI SEVIYOR AKP DENIZI DOLURUCAKLAR
@@oghuzkhan5117 We already know it's not going to be like that. This project will be back to us as extra taxes.
Few corrections:
1- Bosphorus is not free. You can check on the tariff via web search. They are planning to take at most the twice of the existing price. Which doesn't justify the canal.
2- There are no long waiting queue for the Bosphorus. Given 14 hours waiting time is the maximum time you can wait in a daily basis. In very rare occasions they wait more than 24 hours but it is very rare.
3- Annual traffic of Bosphorus is decreasing since 2008. So there is no need to increase the capacity.
Why is it decreasing
That's correct, our fellow video creator doesn't get the facts and reality right
@@sunset-inn I think it is because average ship size is increasing. Although the number is decreasing, total weight of passing ships is increased. However, same did not occur for Suez Canal. There, ship number stood constant with increasing total cargo weight.
Official numbers in Bosphorus:
denizcilikistatistikleri.uab.gov.tr/turk-bogazlari-gemi-gecis-istatistikleri
@@berkhanb Total Gross Tonnage increasing but number of ship decreasing. After a while the number of ships will start to increase. Also "LOA Longer Than 200 Meter" ships increasing.
@@birdost4872 I don't believe the government's future estimations because I pay many guaranteed bridge toll without even passing the bridges. (New Çanakkale-Gelibolu bridge is guaranteed to have 45000 passes in a day which is not even achieved in official holidays) It shows that the government is very bad at estimating the future traffic and usage. After 50 years, it may be necessary but I don't believe that it is the time now. And making a new city (which is actually the main reason of making this canal) so close to the existing city center is going to fuck up the existing traffic of the İstanbul.
We have more vital issues to focus on. 1) The up coming earthquake of Istanbul, the poor buildings, supply chain, hosting ares etc. 2 ) The marmara is crying and dying, we have to purify the waste waters of Istanbul and cities of Marmara. And use for gardens etc. There are more too. But these 2 would be enough to make new Istanbul instead of a canal.
The explosive contents can go to canal. But we will make new settlements and buildings araound the canal. So this is not a real reason.
We get passing fee from bosphorous. The government can increase it up. They have enough evidence,proof and right to do this.
As the bosphorous has a widthness of 500mt at the narrow point, and still risky. I do not get how 150mt-200mt canal width would be enough to supply the safety of ships and zone.
16 miilion people has a problem of water supply every year. The food is coming to Istanbul from south and all over Turkey. That's a point that the lfe is expensive in İstanbul. But we ruin the zone where can be the fields of Istanbul for passing ships. Interesting.
^^this
@kızgın tosbağa Dollar became 11,30tl, you still behave as if everything is fine .Before you give an reply, first think then think and then again think.
The reason that Dollar became here is that the country expended more than we gained forv many long long years. The enormous increase on semi materials are surely effective, too. But that is the New think.
There's no way this is coming in on-budget.
Double the cost, and double the time.
Who cares?
Currency is issued infinitely and issued out of thin air. There is no such thing as budgets and a shortage of currency lol.
@@ThoseWhoHeedTheCall currency has value. If you print money, or somehow create money out of thin air, that reduces the value of the currency, since you didnt change your economic power, but just caused inflation. If you print money AND make more stuff, then that printed money will not cause as much inflation, since your economy grew.
Recep Tayyip Erdogan spent $ 128 billion for her family and she took the money from the people
@@Ezeynel My ass can create better lies.
The numbers of the ships that passed through Istanbul; 2008: 54K, 2013: 46K, 2018: 41K. And it goes lower per year because there are much larger ships that carry more tonnes of material. And they think that in 2030 the numbers of the ships that will pass Istanbul will reach 100K per year? Talk about corruption :)
bigger ships means more danger because they are not obligated to take tow-ships. they can pass free without stopping them. if 1 tanker explode with 200.000 gallon of oil who will be responsible? the bosporys agrreement must change, even with war if needed
@@etsakir no they don't have tow ship now that's why but in canal istanbul we will require that
What are you talking about ? Channels are not charged per ship. A fee is charged in terms of tonnage. In other words, 1 ship pays according to how much cargo it carries.
Wdym i tought they dont charge by number but the cargo?
@@etsakir 1- Ships that will pass through Kanal Istanbul are calculated by tonnage.
2- Even if 200 ships pass through the canal a day, it is unfortunate that the ships that will pass will be large ships and ships carrying dangerous goods, that is, it will help to protect the natural strait.
3- Transit vessels have to pass through the route determined by that state while passing through the canal. so they don't have a choice.
Man I wonder if the world famous Venezuala cheese gets into Turkey this way faster
That. Was. Just. Amazing.
Wut?
@@appleslover he means cocain, because sedat peker talked about it, he is to dumb to trust a maffia boss his word without facts
Plz help stop Israel Zionists (nazi mentality) genocide against Palestine especially arresting thousands of children between 3-12 years old.
1) I know it's not your problem but your gov is funding them, so we need your support to spread the message
2) they own the media and use gaslighting to gain your support, there is alot of footage exposing them from unbiased sources just search Palestine on any social media even Joe rogan talked about it.....
@@arabianprince7508 although I agree with you, this is not the right place to spread it.
The traffic through the bosphorus has decreased almost constantly since 2014 so this doesn't make a lot of sense...
The drop is due to the Russians and what the did since illegally annexing Crimea , they have blocked the Kirch passage and caused massive delays
@@MrTarmonbarry right, Pootin is a flamin' menace
@@MrTarmonbarry that is what cool guys do
@@somebuddy8940 So you think that taking a part of another country and making life difficult for others is ''cool''. S happy i do not live next to you
No you dipsht it is increasing.
A raw, short-sighted and very oriental idea. In Iran, too, they want to build a canal between the Caspian Sea and the Persian Gulf in the hope of building ports in the middle of the desert and humidifying the dry climate.
Keep your lies about iran for yourself
Is it true that the areas around the new canal are bought by companies of Qatari interest?
Yes
Yes
Yes
No its not true. They only say that because they hate Arabs. And lets say even if its true: The owners are Turks who sell it. So they also make money from it. AND the project will be constructed on 70% gouverment property. Only 30% of this whole project is particular/ private property. Istanbul is old, these secular lefties Turks ruled istanbul since 1923-2001. There was no planing, no infrastructure no legislation when building the cities. When from other cities people came to istanbul to find work, wild urbination happend. IF god forbid, today will be earthquak from 7.0 or higher a lot of these buildings will collapse. With the Canal istanbul project they are gonna move 250.000 people from Istanbul, who lives in dangerous area/building to this new city they are gonna built along side the canal. And when the people leave they gonna demolish the old buildings and built new ones.
if the gouverment would wanted to destroy every house in bad conditions istanbul to built better ones for earthquake, it is estimated that there is need for 200 billion USD because you need also buy the property of private people and believe it or not, but some dont want to leave the house while they know its dangerous, but they refusee to make deal with gouverment hoping that they will get maximum price for their house. He has house maybe worth 100.000 but he say i will leave my house if gouverment pays me 1 million. for example. Hes trying to take advantage of the system and this causes delays.
Yes
Unfortunatelly;
*The land around of the Canal has been sold to the Katar goverment.
*People who living there forced to leave without any help. Even farmers with lands and animals.
*Istanbul is very dangerous city because of earthquakes. Our goverment is refusing taking any prevention about it and creating a crowded island around there is not the best thing we can do. We are not going to be able to safely leave the area.
*Sea of Marmara is already dying due to pollution and sea snot. People cant even go fishing there anymore. Goverment ignored it since 2007 and still refusing to search for any solution.
*We have a huge inflation going on. People started to suicide due to life expensiveness and unemployment problems. But the Canal is going to cost us because everything wich went true it will be higer on prices.
* According to experts, the Montreux Convention is really important for being able to act neutral under any pressure from another countrys. And this is life changing because Turkey cant affort any kind of war with this economy.
*Istanbul is not the best place about natural sources. Unfortunatelly there is a huge water problem and our forests are fastly being destroyed with buildings. Noone thinks Canal is going to effect this with positive way.
Ya rte artık kendini padişah sanmaya başladı burası demokrasi halkın %80 ni istemiyor diğerleri çocuk olduğu vs. için saymamışlar %95 i istemiyordur halki yok sayarak kendi dilediğini yapıyor
left c@nc3rs in Turkey be like:
First bridge: We are against it
Second brige: We are against it
Third bridge: We are against it
Marmaray tunnel: We are against it
Canal istanbul we are against it.
if it was for the left c@ncer party in Turkey , today people from istanbul would cross the bosporys in sandals
@@heathermason3513 Öyle gerçekten. Ama bu zulme devam edebileceklerini sanmıyorum artık. Anketlerdeki oyları daha önce hiç olmadığı kadar düşük ve hızla düşmeye devam ediyor, ayrıca hiç olmadığı kadar çok düşmanları var. Rakipleriyse eskisi kadar çekingen değil. Akp nin kendi içinde bile partinin kötü olduğuna dair düşünceler yayılmaya başladı. Kısacası her saltanat gibi, bunun da sonu geldi. Kanal İstanbul'un inşaası bitmeden Akp bitecek gibi gözüküyor. Bize düşense bunun tekrar etmesine müsade etmemek ve her daim hakkımızı aramak.
@@bathantayfunerdem4666 bilmiyorum birkere ölü birisi oy kullanmıştı o haberden sonra turkiyeden ümidim kesildi ıyiki Kıbrısta yaşıyorum
@@oghuzkhan5117 Ofcourse the basic human logic would be against to a natural disaster and exploitation. What did you expected? The bridges are made with our money but still costing us really high prices. Goverment giving promises about car numbers to foreign companys, because they are the one who made the bridges, and when the promise couldnt kept (its actually impossible to keep it anyway due to car numbers) we are the ones who pays for it. Even people who arent using them are paying huge amounts. If its not good for people but good for Erdogans pocket, it would be a dumb act not to be against it. But Canal İstanbul is a whole new story, not because its bad for our money, but because it destroys our natural beautys and creates dangerous stations for human life. You dont need to be a genius to understand it, just make few researches or wach videos like this one. It should be enough. Erdogan clearly said what people thinks is not going to matter, he just doing it because he wanted to, seeing himself as a king, not a president like he should be. Thats why he is loosing horrible amount of votes.
Yes dig a giant lakeway into a earthquake area, brilliant.
The Turks are against it, but Erdogan won't listen. 😒
i mean what to expect from the people who upgraded the engines to super fast train but kept part of the railway not supporting even half of those speeds.....
At least it is approved by a dictator
Nils
And that is being said by somene called "Nils". Its awesome to see how many haters there are.
@@oguzhan9424 Ben Türküm ve evet Erdoğanı sevmiyorum. Sana ne?
5:04 Montreux Convention includes the Dardanelles as well. How do these geniuses expect foreign warships to bypass the Dardanelles? By carrying them through the land like Mehmed II did? The video has nothing different than Erdogan's daily propaganda.
lol so the geo-political aspect doesn't really matter?
th-cam.com/video/L9U8g3vovOY/w-d-xo.html .
And it's a convention that Turkey signed. If you want to get paid or if you want American ships to go to Black Sea just take your signature out rather than digging a stupid tunnel.
@@14Absuma02 i have great doubts on our financial capacity to realize these projects. I think that both canal projects are just a tool to change the public agenda. I just hope they don't cause a natural catastrophe just because of their obstinacy on the matter.
These projects never go to plan, they'll run into unexpected problems with the geology.
The panama canal ended up complete
@@hudsonbakke8836 it had the united states building it, a country with much more capital to burn at the time.
@@Ryanfinder226 turkey have found billions of gold in reserves, big reason why they can build this
They should build up the area to be industrial and commercial areas only.
@@abdul2074 don't believe those "discoveries", the gold reserves have been increased by buying gold from Venezuela, from another dictator. They are however useless to keep the lira from falling.
I sorta doubt this will go ahead in any meaningful way. Also I have a feeling they are vastly underestimating the costs and overestimating the returns.
what if i told you the president's own son in law is the owner of the largest construction company in turkey :)
@@mzyil 128 milyar nerde Ğ
@@mzyil Lol this happens so frequently, I used to tell my friends the same thing about Hazel McCallion.
smells suspicious in so many ways
we won't gey anything..they are selling our country
"Dangerous cargo will be diverted to the new canal".
After the new canal is built I suspect that so many cargo will suddenly become "dangerous".
th-cam.com/video/L9U8g3vovOY/w-d-xo.html .
It's not mentioned but this project will cause serious troubles when it comes to earthquakes.
Why? It’s only 21 meters deep
radical claims without backing, sounds pretty chp
@@omergezer6368 yea, i don’t care if its radical or not i just want to know how a 21m deep project could cause earthquakes. That sounds very unlogical to me.
However, @K S could you please explain your point?
@@6uney that was meant for k s you got me wrong
Because areas where the project will take place have loose soils but most importantly those areas are susceptible to liquefaction. Due to the natural sites (watershed, reservoir, etc.) the soil is saturated which is prone to liquefaction and enough to cause damages when there is an earthquake.
As someone living in Istanbul, I am definitely against the project. They are doing their best to slaughter the historical and natural beauty of the city. This is not New York. You can not find the historical and natural beauty of Istanbul in every city. They destroy the things that make the city beautiful. The whole plan of the government is always directed towards Istanbul. There is no plan to develop cities in Anatolia at all. Since the cities in Anatolia are not developed, the people prefer to live in Istanbul. I wish that instead of this canal project, focus on the development of cities in Anatolia. Istanbul is fine in its current state.
Sanane
@@heathermason3513 türküm ben, ne demek sanane? Ülkem hakkında konuşmayacak mıyım
@@aristotle4225 yorumlarda yunan dolu sende yunan filozofu koyduğun için yunan sandım
@@heathermason3513 Silent Hill'den yazıyorsun galiba, Malum Heather Mason koyduğun için Heather sandım seni
@@MisterMolby olabilirim kimse bilemez
Turkey wants to turn the city of Istanbul to the island of Istanbul!
Like Manhattan
No, we don’t want that.
@@mavioz seems like you still gonna do that
@@asafeski6639 Erdogan wants it, not us.We dont want this to happen cuz Big İstanbul Earthquake will be more than 7 and powerfull,Canal Istanbul will just weaken İstanbul and make it easier to get destroyed by an eartquake. If we cant finish this project by 2023, we will get rid of Erdogan and Cancel this project.
@@huseyinsoldaccount.865 if it's not the earthquake, maybe some interests will destroy it xD
Big work , big strategy, bravoo Turkey!!!!
Big hunger
Big unempkoyment
Big lira 😂😂😂
@@Machsalat 😂
As a Turkish person, we already know this project will be more disappointing than Turkey at Euro 2021
EURO 2020
@@calebholdsworth4476 They need to score lot of goal tho. Very unlikely for this squad.
Disappointed in Turkey 2020 team too.
You said the same before the Istanbul airport just complain for everything
@@daud667 it’s the difference between logical and rational thinking and nationalistic emotional and populistic thinking
>Countries such as the US
>Shows a King George V class battleship
We are sooo sorry man excuse him pls 😥
And?
Can we blame them? It's a beautiful ship, I'd pass it off as anything just to show it.
The key words are seem to pass people's observation. Yes, letting foreign warships into the Black Sea is a very very good idea. Have you guys ever seen a mushroom cloud that was not in movies? Few billion dollar for Turkey and suddenly you see USA aircraft carriers in Black Sea next to Russia....just what the region needs. Aircraft carriers did work out so well in the Middle East brought peace and prosperity...right?
oh my god WHO CARES
4:42 But didn’t you say Turkey planned on building up the area around the new canal? So there is still a chance of danger regardless if the ships take the canal or strait
The land surrounding the canal is already sold to the Qatari gov's royal family members. Which no one really mentions. Also Turkey is bankrupt -46 billion USD in their central bank. Also the world doesnt know (maybe does) but during the CVD19 pandemic this was the only country which its president asked its people for donations to the govt to help with the pandemic. In return the govt helped out other poor nations instead of its own people. Thats how corrupt this regime is. The danger is all around with this regime.
@@brocks3267 so for your logic in the times of WWII while american citizens looking for money and property USA goverment decided to help europeans and spend billions of tax payers dollars for arms industry. is it corruption?
Bosporus have a changble stream
it's not clearly mentioned in the video, that any ship has to make 22 maneovers to pass the Bosphoros bcz of it's natural shape, but the man maid canal will be much more safer for the ships to pass straight.
@@yokartik US made a lot of money out of WW2 we don’t have any money left and the little money left should have been used for the citizens of Turkey not people of other countries. But if there was money and government first helped the citizens then you can consider helping other countries
Honestly, Turkey should use this as a bargaining piece to revoke parts of the Montreux Convention, like the free passage. Keep the restriction on non-black sea navies.
😎🙋✌
today was the groundbreaking ceremony.
Good luck and success to Turkey.
It's been said that Mandalorians have bought the land around the canal
Good one :)
After Qatar, why not Martians or Vulcanians :)
LOL.
This is the way...
good one lol
Aynen /:
What if a catastrophic shipwreck happened at the Bosphorus months after the canal start operation :p master play, no one can do anything about it.
Bosphorus is 20 times bigger than the Suez canal in case of a shipwreck there would be still plenty of room for to ships to go by also it doesn't matter for Turkey because its free for all ships
@kalepox learn to read
already over 2.5 million people live around the canal line wheter new residentals built or not. In istanbul everywhere is city center now not only the districts near bosphorus tourists see always the historical places in istanbul but istanbul is much better than that. city has 3 highyway each one is 150 km long
@@kalepox1035 no if a ship crash and it happens before all ships are stopped until the ship is towed away
You didn't mention if there would be any locks involved, or would it be more like the Suez Canal where little or no change in elevation is involved. Will there be any locks?
I don't recall but does the Panama and Suez Canals offer shopping, restaurant and condos on either side? Is that really feasible?
It sounds insane. Why is there congestion?
It makes no sense to say contracting the canal will “create construction jobs” because that money could be spent on any other infrastructure project to create jobs.
It's insane how many people can fall for your average broken window fallacy.
So they can make money from contracting to fund future projects that'll create more money and jobs?
Congestion is because everyone is ordering crap from China and shipping to Europe starts in a Volume of 35 % in Russian ports.
Im against this project because of its low ROI but ur statement is flawed. It makes economic sense that obviously this project will create many jobs for construction workers, that is common sense. What other major project do u propose?
@@johnwig285 you can make construction jobs in any part of the world drilling and excavating, and moving the dirt to another place, and then refill the holes when drilling is complete. Check out the definition of broken window fallacy, you will better understand what I mean. This is not a beneficial project, so any jobs hired for this can be used better elsewhere.
hi. i'm from turkey. I see that you have researched and handled the subject very good. and i believe it is going to be helpful for enlightening the people all over the world. As you mentioned, this is a very controversial project. besides, these days we are going through a very critical period politically and if you can add Turkish subtitles it will be very good in terms of both increasing your views and enlightening also Turkish people who do not speak English. congrats!
Just added them!
this canal will protect Istanbul to be occupied and will build and boost economy. please educate yourself on politics. you need to know the geopolitics of today
@@ahmadfrhan5265 So Istanbul welcomes occupation? By which country?
@@jeffinkhobar5711 no it doesn't " welcome occupation " it's to prevent occupation
@@jeffinkhobar5711 wanna speak politics and geopolitics?
5:54 Massive inflow of organisms!!! Aren't they already coming through the Borsphorus?!
I don't think it should be built but I also think the monreue convention is unfair, Turkey should have the say in what passes through the Bosphorus straight
In conclusion this project is deemed to fail or end up taking decades more to finish with 100X the cost.
Maybe you are thinking of the USA. They'll use a middle eastern or Chinese company that actually get things done. America is completely corrupt so a tunnel takes twenty years and everyone needs paying off especially politicians.
I bet they fix a couple of bridges and build one new highway with the $2 trillion infrastructure plan. Have you been. The USA is a total dump.
This is Turkey, here you build projects mostly shorter than expected.
You will be wondering how fast that project will end.
@@chrishayes5755 sry dude. If the US sets its foot into this area it will be the last step the US ever has taken^^.
Do you really think Russia and Turkey would be afraid of the US ?
@@ParalyticAngel you forgot to mention with very good odds to end before completion :)
@@ParalyticAngel yeah I'd be.
Theres literally no point of digging another channel when the nature had provided next to it.
yeah exactly
yes that is why we don't want this
@@mertozbek680 Also it will deplete Istanbul of sweet water. It will be a disaster for the already scarce water situation
1 word: Money
there is point to boost the economy idk how u couldn’t think about this it’s just dumb
Waiting 14 hours is still cheaper than paying a toll that might costs thousands.
?? your money worry let forget the security of the city, people.
"About the same as the suez canal" ..? Dude that is almost twice as wide as the Suez Canal.
Suez canal is more deeper and olso its two ways
@@omaribrahim5008 Suez is 2 ways but not at the same time- they have to stagger the traffic in and out.
"103 Naval officers opposed the canal , 10 were arrested" Thats Turkey for you
Done the right thing
Were you expecting an african puppet country rowing in front of its puppet generals?
Not a single authority will be threatened in such a manner, especially not in Turkey where bloody coup d'etats are everyday business.
@ikaros as you see there they all ignorant neo-ottoman guys.. Actually they are not thinks about What is good for Turkey, they only act like it but it’s fake :D
@@elkaramani Yeah bro 103 Naval officers clearly know how dangerous it would be to turn Black Sea -which is currently one of the most peaceful seas in the entire world btw- into a clusterfuck between Russia and America. Those guys definitely alluded to carrying out a coup from their wheelchairs and not at all actually try to emphasize the stupidity of such a project which allows safe passage to America. You AKP bots are so fucking delusional and braindead.
now, all they need to do next is take all the earth they dig up for the new canal and dump it into the bosphorus starit.
big brain time
😂😂😂😂😂
LMAO DUDE!
bro don't give them ideas
for a ship to wait 14 hours to even 48 hours is like a 15 min delay for an airplane passanger. the Dardanelles should also be split in 2?
I seem to recall that under the Montreux Convention, Turkey can subject ships passing through the Bosphorus to sanitary inspections?
That seems like an easy way to force traffic into the canal -- make the inspection process so slow and onerous that it becomes more economical to just pay to use the canal.
One thing need to be corrected: Us navies or any navies who have no coast to Black sea can enter black sea but cant stay more than 21 days. There is also a limit on tonage of ship (not every ships can enter) please be careful while informing people
blah blah blah. Don't you think 21 days is something?
@@Kongarles He is just correcting the video, and providing context. What are you trying to achieve here?
@@atralik7403 I'm being kalpazan sir!!
@@atralik7403 And also video has sufficient pros and cons to show impartiality. The question is to be asked is what is HE tryin' to achieve by saying that "please be careful while informing people". We can conclude from these last words that he claims whatever... lost my interest good night sir
@@atralik7403 dont mind him he seems like a erdogan nationalist
Fully support Turkey from Kazakhstan 🇹🇷❤️🇰🇿
Please don't support this canal. Istanbul citizents hate this and will ruin their lives. If you want to support Turkey, support a project that actually makes sense and good for people like Canakkale Bridge or hydroelectric centrals
Түркиядан pақмет :)
@@fallendown8828 so the cons outweigh the pros?
@@xillerrz7328 we don't need cons, stupid
@@kingofskulls6435 do you even know what I am talking about?
What's not to like? It will indeed cut down the congestion over at the Bosphorus. Go for it, Turkey!!
Great video!❤️
It does not bypass the Montroux convention. The convention applies to the Turkish straits which contains Dardanelles(Çanakkale) Strait, Marmara Sea and Bosphorus(İstanbul) Strait. A canal could only bypass the convention if it is built between the Agean and Black Seas directly. So the rules of Montroux convention probably applies anyway. This means military vessels are not stuck in Bosphorus but they are stuck way before in Dardanelles strait.
In the convention it says Turkey can collect some toll revenue from the straits based on some standards that were aggreed in that times. As you guess, as the time passes and inflation happens and the toll price that Turkey can collect becomes basically nothing in today's purchasing power. An update can be done for that, maybe to increase the toll based on inflation or something like that.
But the Montroux convention is about the transit through straits. No where in the articles does it say that military vessels aren't allowed to enter straits without going through. Using the canal won't count as transiting the straits as it is not a strait. So it is in fact bypassing the convention.
@@mikekrafchek3845 actually there are articles that regulate the military ships passing through. There are limits for both the native nations and non black sea nations, for example if a non black sea country wants to send a military ship to black sea, then it must inform turkey at least 2 weeks in advance, the ship can stay in black sea at most 3 weeks, submarines must go above water, no aircarft can be used through the passage and the total amount of foreign military ships in the sea must be below a certain limit. So the convention is also about the military ships that can stay in the black sea. As far as i know, this rule is mostly benefiting russia and formerly ussr by keeping their near costs free of foreign military.
Edit: since the convention regulates the whole passage from mediterannean to black sea, istanbul canal cant effect it since istanbul strait is only a small part of the route. The rest of the route is still under the convention
@@mikekrafchek3845 A smarty here. I have better idea. They can move the ships through land to Black sea without using straits.
@@BoBo-bq2os that is a horrible idea. You want to lift 15k to 35k ton ships onto land? Are u ok?
What's the odds after construction turkeys going to build a convenient low bridge over the bosforise so that you have to use the canal
a bit too high whic will make waiting times longer but also no because traffic jams will destroy the city if a bridge has to open
no they will close the boshpohus with the earth and make it a land so ships won't be able to pass
@@semihdurmaz6628 I'm pretty sure they can't close it
@@jeltje50 that was obviously a joke
the most important reason for Turkish people to be opposed to this idea is that they think the government and their followers line their pockets thanks to this project.
Turkey: *building new canal*
Evergreen: I am *COMİNG*
Two errors:
1 - all ships, no matter what flag, do pay for passage through the straits.
2 - construction of a canal doesn't allow Turkey to operate outside of the Montreux Convention as the convention applies to ships passing through the Dardanelles strait too. In order to theoretically bypass the convetion a canal from the Black Sea straight to the Aegean would need to be constructed.
montrö direk iptal edilmeli bu maskaralıklara gerek yok askeri gücü ve nükleer gücü göstererek bu sömürge antlaşması devam edemez
@@esramnor6734 nükleer gücün var sanki köylü
@@kubicix1265 köylü olmak gurur verici. küçük beyinlerin küçük fikirleri büyük beyinlerin büyük fikirleri vardır. senin gibi aşağılıkların ötesinde bunlar
nationalinterest.org/feature/turkey-secretly-working-nuclear-weapons-13898
U mean, Erdogan is literally fooling around 😭😳......and this canal won't generate any revenue
Then why tf he is building that if it turns out to be a loss and also create ecological imbalance ?!
@@turkologistifaz I don't know if your question is sincere or sarcastic. But, the general consensus is that these mega construction projects is how government funds are diverted to construction companies allied to the current government which in turn spend some of the money to assist the government during election campaigns. There also seem to be numerous people in government who are personally benefitting as there is no other way to explain their current wealth.
The major problem in the long run is that the government doesn't even actually have such funds, but is borrowing to fund the projects through the Public Private Partnership model which has been a catastrophe. Basically the debt isn't reflected in the government accounts because it's the private firms who are taking the loans, but in exchange the government signs long (20 years+) contracts with payment guarantees and also acts as a guarantor of the loan. So, if the company somehow goes bankrupt, the government has to take over the loan payments. Best part: incase the government is ousted in a future election, the contracts are made in London so British courts have the final say if a future government tries to annul the contracts.
Sorry for the long reply. As a Turkish citizen it is infuriating to watch what is happenening for over a decade with nothing to do and no power to change the course of events.
As a turkish citizens we dont want a new canal, Only the government wants it becouse they already bought territory near canal protect and they gonna sell it..
We do, We don't want naval accidents such as MT Independența, It's not about politics, It's about geopolitics.
@@tahayldrm7012 bu sefer 3.havalimanı hizasında patlasa ne olacak? Kanalından tut havalimanı, yollar, yerleşim alanları... Hepsi gidecek. Ki kanal yakını arsaları yerleşim alanına dönüştürmek istiyorlar. Yine bir sürü ölen kişi olacak. Bu yalanı yaymayın bi
@@Dapplication İstanbul Havalimanı ile kanal güzergahı arsında 8km var, dip dibe değil, İstanbul boğazındaki bir olay direk şehrin kalbini etkiliyor.
kes
@@tahayldrm7012 I am working for Turkish Naval Forces.. I think im as a navy soldier I should have known more than maritime security and treatments.. Please stop trying to explain my job to me. It’s awkward
For anyone that has been in Istanbul before, you will know that it has some of the worst traffic in the world. Making part of the city an Island is going to make gridlock a whole lot worse especially on holidays when everyone will try to leave the city to visit family to both the East and West of the city. Just for context, I have been in 4 hour long traffic jams between 2011-2014.
In addition to this, the bridges going over the new canal are likely to have fairly pricey tolls, where there weren’t any before.
You just need work little harder, little more rich so you don't have to worry paid some money while driving through bridges. Don't be lazy
@@suswanto4777 Or move to somewhere that the government cares more about the people... If you worked a little harder and had some money you would learn to look after it.
@@Jamie-Z
It's okay, our ancestors are pilgrimage, from one place to another. This earth is huge planet. Be positive.
"Whoever emigrates in the cause of Allah will find many safe havens and bountiful resources throughout the earth. Those who leave their homes and die while emigrating to Allah and His Messenger-their reward has already been secured with Allah. And Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful."(Quran 4v100)
@@Jamie-Z sure you can go to Germany and pay 45% + tax for income in exhange of free stuff
Thank you for your good presentation and good information !
while millions of people running small businesses having economically rough times due to covid19 and looking for a support from the government, an unnecessary canal worth bilions of dollars can be constructed instead of helping those who need. Not even mentioning the damage it will create on Marmara sea which is already bleeding out. Hard times folks. Hard times indeed.
there are some wrong information especially regarding the Montreux conventi the agreement includes Canakkale also which means the canal will not affect the situation regarding motreux so no US war ships in black sea
Well solution is easy. Another canal in Canakkale
@@emrekermen5334 big brain
@@emrekermen5334 yupp maybe after the first one is done asddsadasd
@@furkansimsek7048 Lol how is Bkk? Should be done a canal south of Thailand to bypass Singapore ?
@@hidrate3189 you mean "in the southern part of Thailand" instead of "south of Thailand". But the Freudian slip is exactly why there would be no canal. Thailand doesn't want to create a new border and cede all the land south of that to its neighbour, or even worse, a new country.
Quite a big budget for a country in economical crisis
if it's about money turkey should just revoke the montreux agreement
The international community has actually tried to revise the terms of the Montreux convention to make it in line with straits that are used for international routes. Turkey refuses to do this however because non-man made straits would still be exempt from toll, and would allow for more free passage of naval vessels from non-black sea nations. But in reality if Turkey were to stop abiding by the treaties made during the Montreux convention it would upset most of the international community which could result in them getting a harsh letter at best, and economic sanctions at worst (probably).
Not that simple... Lol
1:02 Wrong information. US military ships can enter the Black Sea, but can only stay in Black Sea for 2 weeks
Only under certain tonnage
Is that the same for all NATO members?
@@joshbentley2307 It is the same for every state which is not riverain from the Black sea
there is a lot of wrong information. the channel cannot break the montro agreement. The montro agreement is also valid in Marmara and Dardanels.
@@bni5075 Correct. But people are concerned if the government lets China build another canal to bypass the Dardanelles strait. That would mean a ship could go from Aegean to Black Sea without crossing the Dardanelles and Istanbul straits. How would Montreaux apply then?
The cannal won’t let turkey to bypass the montreux convention because in montreux the dardanelles are also included. If a us ship wants to go to the black sea it should first get past the dardanelles and that would be againsts montreux.
Erdogan: NEW DARDENELLES CANAL PROJECT SOON™
@@cancatalbas7849 tr.sputniknews.com/turkiye/202001021040953156-kanal-istanbulun-ced-raporunda-kanal-canakkale-onerisi/ mizah değil, kanal istanbul'u yapabilirlerse onu da yapacaklar.
Aga montro savas gemilerini kapsar..yeni kanalin amaci falan ulkenin filan bayrakli donanmasini gecirmek degil..istanbuldaki halihazirdski kanaldan montro geregince ticari gemiler beles geciyor..eger sivil feribot seferleri denetim ve kontroller siklasirsa haftalarca beklemek zorunda kalacaklari icin mecburen yeni kanal istanbuldan ucret odeyip gececekler ve gelir saglanacak..kim takar amerikan savas gemisi gelmis gecmis gecmemis.mesele o degil anladinizmi..iki kanal olmus olacak adam tonlarca yukle marmarada onca isci maasi mallarin bozulmasi vs beklemek istermi..amac zaten montro felan degil amac iki yol sunup eski yolu zora sokarak yeni yola mahkum etmek..bunca zaman belese girip ciktilar ulkenin deniz yolunu gavur belese kullaniyo..Birakin yapilsin.arap gelip ev yali vs yaptiriyor..zaten 7 8 m suriyeli fakir fukara girdi..
once the canal is completed the 14hour wait on the free route will turn into 5hour, assuming some ship will go through the pay route. that mean at the end almost no ship will go through the pay route. the only way to make ship go through a pay router is either stop the free route or make it inaccessible , or make it congest longer then a month. then most ship will pay for it.
Yes. It's a good idea.
You should cover the topic of the Rail Baltica high speed railway project
@@uzairahmed2185 what, he just reccommended a topic
This is by far my most fav project channels
Its so relaxing to watch
And every new project is so interesting
mine to they make the videos so interesting u get into them
Yes u are right! They are educational and knowledgeable too!
Turkish people dont wanna it %70 people dont want it. bcuz its not for us. its for qatar people. they alreayd buy lands there.. Turkish we dont wanna but they making it. its waste of of money and Turkish people already suffering with bad ecenomy
Thank you! Glad you enjoy the videos. :D
@@FuturologyChannel Crimea is owned by Russia dude.
Hello futurology, are you planning on doing a video about the reconstruction of the ancient Egyptian lighthouse of Alexandria.I heard the egyptian government approved it but hasn't started yet.A video about it would be cool.
th-cam.com/video/L9U8g3vovOY/w-d-xo.html .
@@imran.kiyani7926 what this video has to do with the lighthouse of Alexandria?
Anyone know about the the connections to the Belt and road initiative? Will some of the canal money come from China, I know Turkey is part of the the BAR, but I havent seen anything when it comes to this project.
a 15b project with 7b anual revenue, sounds like an easy choise if those numbers are correct lol
Narrator: they werent
Except ... any 1b project costs us 10b with that much corruption.
@@LeventDV y and why would people spend money to pass a canal if there is a normal way just 20kms away ? Winning on day of travel ?
@@tm.8399 it's not a necessary project. It's a stunt. Also another way to do corruption. You see, on top of contract, the fields around the project location will increase value hundred fold. Hundreds of politically harmful people will get rich
@@LeventDV I agree on that
Is anyone from Panama?
I think they can attest to how expensive this venture is.
US went to war just to establish a canal.
Panama canal was built more than 100 years ago and the last expansion costed around 5,000 million dollars so idk
USA clever no money no pass
I sense this canal is get from the US backing
Hopefully Turkey will be a new superpower. Good luck Turkish
Thus new itanbul canal will be crucial for Turkey. Not only in commercial aspects, but also in Security.
I mean I see why they would make another canal, but is there really a point?
erdogan wants vote soo 🙂
he wasting our money. while Turkish trying survive with 300 dolar salry. renting hosue 200 dolar in Turkey minumum. we living with 100 dolar for 1 month!!! if u have wife or kids u fcked up.
@@kayacenk4164 "wasting our money" was the project's funding plan announced?
@@itsallsausagetome4059 we dont have money in reserve its - 30 -40 billion. they gonna take loan again for what? what we will get more than nothing? ohh wait we need to make rich qatar family members.. bcuz they buy all lands near to canal.
@@kayacenk4164 you the guy that alleged Syrians are taking handouts from the government? I see you are running around making all sorts of allegations.
As I insinuated the funding plan is not yet disclosed, it could simply end up being built by the privet sector, BOT.
As a citizen of Turkey, eventhough there are some benefits of building a new canal, I don't want this happen for some crucial reasons. First and the most important reason is the environmental effects. It is already obvious that the Marmara sea is ruined by the dirt of surrounding cities and the European shits carried by the Danube River which ends in black sea. Black Sea mixes with Marmara sea via the bosphorus. The second most important reason is that politics and their relatives mostly Erdoğan's relatives bought big lands from the route of this new Canal. The lands were agricultural estate so they collected them by almost paying no money to the old landlords. Then they changed the statue of the lands as commercial and improved land so that they can build cool and expensive skyscrapers. This is not fare. It is not right to use government's power for one guy's right. Believe me 99% of the Turkey's population against this project because of this unfare enrichment whic they already did too many times before and it resulted impoverishment of the country and each member of this country. As a result, Erdoğan does not care about the country and it's population's rights as he said; "we will build Kanal Istanbul whether they want it or not."
there are no benefits... we are wathing our country getting selled again
Wait so if I take a shit it ends up near putins summer home? hahaha
Best president ever RTE
And lets not forget the gargantuan amount of money or requires. You'll be paying for the canal for the next 100 years
@@johnny_eth :(((
The president himself announced this as "crazy project" think about its rationality, how ironic.
It all depends what you’re spending in that 14 hours waiting. If it cost you say $1000 for example to wait 14 hours or you pay $500 and you get to go right away well you just cut your losses in half. As long as it makes sense companies will do it
As a turk, I can say that istanbul has much bigger problems. Geologists say they are expecting a big earthquake in istanbul. And the number of people of people living in old and neglected houses in istanbul is quite high. According to one estimate, hundred of thousands of people could lose their lives in a possible earthquake. And we, as people of istanbul, want our houses to be renewed before the canal. And also istanbul is already very crowded. Investments to be made in turkey must now be made outside of istanbul.
Well than elect a new president
@@Mrahamedmalik man.. you don't know the stupidity of our people :(
@@hayatzor6249 I thought turks are clever. Had ottoman empire great history. You mean they are not what I think
@@Mrahamedmalik yes.
@@Mrahamedmalik Its the Turks that live outside the major cities who keep electing Right Wing presidents thinking it will get them out of poverty
The US logically supports this, otherwise they wouldnt be able to enter the black sea. I say no to this project.
yeah,it suck useless
At the current moment, there's nothing blocking US from entering the Black Sea. There's absolutely nothing. In April 2021, US military and Pentagon sent 2 navy ships with military personnel and equipment to the Black Sea. Turks just watched and took photos from the Bosphorus. US has never faced any backlash from Turkish governments in the Bosphorus, in the entire history of the Turkish Republic
@@mvpwade that's because the US is the US and it can basically do as it pleases all around the world.
@@mvpwade Montreux convention only allows for warships no more than 30k ton and with a limit of 21 days. Plus they have to let the Turkish government know before they send the warships. So, this project surely would be good for US and other NATO allies but not sure if it would be good for Istanbul though.
@@lastc0de440 Mate this canal was made for Russia. Wait and see
Great project for turkey, definitely interesting to see in the future
As a Turk, I strongly support this project.
I hope these projects will help Turkey's Economy and make the country rich! :D
nope probably it will kill economy more
@@onriand I doubt it, jobs offered to engineers, new housing for a growing population, and fees earned from the canal, seems like a steal. Also montreux will expire after hundred years which means they can charge via both
This project will harm the nature and ruin the already ruined Turkish economy. It is just a show; nothing else.
@@onriand mal
Yep it will boost Turkish economy
Will the straight be blocked by accident and ships need to pass through the new canal and pay?
Precisely lol, they'll find a way to frustrate & delay moving through the bosphorus canal so much that it'd become easier to just pay to use the new one, also multi million dollar military deals await & a huge international bargaining chip for Turkey with Russia & the US. All in all this is a smart project for the Turks
Can’t they just make “fast passes” for the existing route and charge people for priority traffic free passage? Seems cheaper than building a canal
It probably goes against the montreaux (or however you spell it lol) convention
I think nations could easily denounce this profiting and everyone would agree because they don't want to pay
Lol sounds like something at Disney land
It should not be forgotten that the channel serves military interests.
it's forbidden in the convention that he keeps mentioning, did you watch the video?
Thing is if they can ensure it doesn't effect the water supply and that the people that are displaced are heavily compensated I don't think anyone would mind