Actually there whether it's dunlop or talalay you technically can't get 100% natural latex. The most you can find is somewhere between 95-97% natural latex, the remaining 3-5% is the curring material to make it the latex rubber you see in mattresses.
Talalay is perfect for pressure relief for side sleepers; though more expensive. You must know your sleep pattern, weigh & height to select the ideal firmness. Its similar to lying on soft jello while conforming to the shape of the body. It gets firmer the more you sink into it. The feel is definitely NOT the same as cheaper mattresses.
“Gets firmer the more you sink into it.” So right. That’s why I think Latex should have a sophisticated blend of foam and other materials with it, to balance out the “resist” of the Latex. Personally I like a Responsive Medium-Soft feel with a Bit of SINK. Basically, Latex- Response, Bounce (Resist); Foam- Pressure relief (Sink).
Talalay is very strange, lying on my back on talalay I feel the pushback a lot more than being on my side, my shoulders and hips don't get much pushback... very strange feeling. The key thing is pushback though, not everyone likes it, it almost feels like spices on your back or shoulders etc.
Hey Pablo. You say a 6" slab of dunlop settles, making it firmer on one side. How can I tell which is the less firm side? I will want that softer side facing upwards. Thanks!
Good stuff. Thanks. A question regarding breathability. If I use dunlop as the base support layer, and talalay as the middle and top layer, with I feel the difference in breathability, other things being equal, if instead I also make the base support level talalay? If it is all talalay, will air works its way up thru all the layers to the sleeper better? Thanks again.
I'm thinking of getting a sleep on latex mattress in medium and a sleep EZ 3 talalay medium topper. I weigh about 230....you think this would be to soft? I sleep on my back or on my hip side w my chest more facing down so my shoulder doesn't dig in at all. I could also go 3 inch medium or soft Dunlop topper?
@sherylfinucane5873 so I bought the medium firm. It was firm. I bought the soft topper for 50% off. Since then I have had my hip replaced. I can sleep on the opposite side, my back, and my stomach. The pressure is too much on my hip replacement though. Buying a bed online made me a little obsessed and kind of crazy for a few weeks. Because of this, I have gotten a job as a mattress sales person. Go to a mattress store. Go feel beds you're thinking of buying. Buy based on how it feels to you (pressure relief, and comfort). It's worth the time. Also I weigh less now, about 200 and its still "soft" enough to sleep on my non replacement side. It does come firmer and soften up over time. They all do
Why lay on something more bouncy? Spock Logic tells me and common sense, The harder we blow up a basket ball the higher and faster it will bounce, Why lay on harder and why they are saying it's softer than Dunlop seeing Dunlop has less bounce? Make Boxing gloves out of Talalay and Dunlop and lets see the results after being punched. Wait! ahh I think I just Contradicted my self because Talalay weight is lighter then Dunlop but latex doesn't hit us we hit the latex that's a twist in logic. ok lets make crash test dummies to crash into a wall of latex lol.
Thank you so much for the informative video! I’d like to find a 30x80” slab to make a queen bed, which has split pieces inside the matress, softer than what it is. And it’s been a lot harder to decipher the “softness” of the latex than what I imagined! 😮😮
I need an firm topper, one that doesn't let me sink in like memory foam. I'm undecided on whether to get medium or firm Dunlop. I'm a side sleeper. Which would work best for someone who tosses and turns all night? And is 2 inches or 3 better for lower back support?
If you're going to get a dunlop I would stick with a medium layer as firm dunlop layer can cause pressure on the shoulders and hips. A medium talalay would be a good option as well.
I have used a talalay mattress, (by Beautiful), for the past 10 years. Absolutely the softest but also supportive mattress I've ever owned. I was led to believe it would last for 15-25 years, but just recently I've had the return of back problems.I discovered the middle, (where I sleep the most), has become compressed.( I tested this by laying on one edge, and felt a sensation that my body wanted to roll to the middle). This compressed area cannot be seen visually, but it's definitely there.Final test was sleeping on a regular mattress with a 2 inch topper that yielded no back discomfort the next morning. I am so disappointed that the mattress has only lasted 10 years when I paid big money for it to last!! I'm a bigger guy, (230lbs), but that was not identified as a factor in durability initially. ALSO... it is not often said that these mattresses are super heavy!!! and they are dead weight. If you are in the market for one, be sure to try picking it up before buying. (Yes, I did rotate the mattress every 4-6 months, sometimes by myself which wasn't very easy).
Nothing ever lasts as long as they say. My very expensive topper already has a big tear in it. If I could find the Talalay that I had about 12 years ago I would be in heaven! Like you I'm a big person, I've found the best combo is to get a super firm flat top mattress set and add the toppers to that. That way you get that very firm support but with a couple inches of bliss on top. Yes they are very heavy, but nothing is better than Talalay latex in My opinion.
@@Sssssssslf it definitely has a better feel. And they come in different ILD (firmness rating) if you are heavier I would at least start with a mid range firmness, not the softest. I would also advise to spend a little more and get a zippered cover if the company offers it. They do tend to discolor and get yellow over time.
I need one that won't hurt my back & hips! Which one is best for a 130 pound bedridden person in a hospital bed?? (adjustable bed) I sleep on my side mostly, but at times fall asleep on my back while watching tv. I ordered a Dunlop & it ruined my back & hips. I ordered the soft.
Hi Nun Ya, I would recommend using dunlop in the core but use 1-2 comfort layers of talalay medium-soft firmness that way it can still give you support but also the pressure relief you need for your hips.
Hi, what's the minimum thickness to get the advantage of latex? I'm not a big guy (5'6 160 pound) I want to buy one and it'll be just latex and a cover. Thanks
Companies seem to be going more for Dunlop. I've sent 2 toppers back last year from different companies, I was led to believe I was getting Talalay but in fact they were Dunlop. I had a Talalay for over 10 years. It was AMAZING!!! I'm telling there is no comparison in comfort. The Talalay is a dream to sleep on. The Dunlop (even the soft density) is too firm. I'm saving up to get a real Talalay. I have a feeling they will eventually phase out Talalay.
The Dunlop is cheaper and less complicated to manufacture. The Talalay process is more specialized and costly. There are zero reasons to "phase out" talalay, as there are plenty of people willing to spend more for the talalay properties.
@@monicahurd6637 I just looked up the company that I bought my last one from and they only sell Dunlop now. They do have them on Amazon, but you have to very diligent in reading fine print. It has to say Talalay, if it doesn't, it's probably Dunlop or some hybrid of the two.
The 3 inch Talalay ( I think it was soft) topper was the most comfortable bed I ever had. The topper lasted about 13 years.
Thank you! I've seen several videos on this topic and this is the best one by far!
Doesn’t Talalay always have to be mixed with a synthetic? I heard from 2 other videos I watched that there is no such thing as 100% Talalay.
Actually there whether it's dunlop or talalay you technically can't get 100% natural latex. The most you can find is somewhere between 95-97% natural latex, the remaining 3-5% is the curring material to make it the latex rubber you see in mattresses.
Thanks for the question and answer as i was confused
Dunlop latex is consistently described as 'heavier' & 'denser' - but you do actually have a reasonably wide range of densities with Dunlop latex.
Can u explain the difference between multi core n pincore mattress
Talalay is perfect for pressure relief for side sleepers; though more expensive. You must know your sleep pattern, weigh & height to select the ideal firmness. Its similar to lying on soft jello while conforming to the shape of the body. It gets firmer the more you sink into it. The feel is definitely NOT the same as cheaper mattresses.
Can you describe the firmness levels of Talalay? Nobody seems to be able to.
“Gets firmer the more you sink into it.” So right. That’s why I think Latex should have a sophisticated blend of foam and other materials with it, to balance out the “resist” of the Latex. Personally I like a Responsive Medium-Soft feel with a Bit of SINK. Basically, Latex- Response, Bounce (Resist); Foam- Pressure relief (Sink).
Talalay is very strange, lying on my back on talalay I feel the pushback a lot more than being on my side, my shoulders and hips don't get much pushback... very strange feeling. The key thing is pushback though, not everyone likes it, it almost feels like spices on your back or shoulders etc.
I’m 330lbs don’t care about price which should I buy.
Firmest you can find
Hey Pablo. You say a 6" slab of dunlop settles, making it firmer on one side. How can I tell which is the less firm side? I will want that softer side facing upwards. Thanks!
Good stuff. Thanks. A question regarding breathability. If I use dunlop as the base support layer, and talalay as the middle and top layer, with I feel the difference in breathability, other things being equal, if instead I also make the base support level talalay? If it is all talalay, will air works its way up thru all the layers to the sleeper better? Thanks again.
For hot sleepers, is Dunlop a bad choice ?
Thank You 👍🏾
So much great information. Thank you!
Which one would you recommend for bounciness? I want something that has a trampoline feel
Did you see the golf ball demonstration?
I want To put a topper on my bed. Its too firm. I weight 230lbs. Is 3" médium dunlop à good choice. Talalay is hard To find here.
Birch makes a mattress with Talalay.
I'm thinking of getting a sleep on latex mattress in medium and a sleep EZ 3 talalay medium topper. I weigh about 230....you think this would be to soft? I sleep on my back or on my hip side w my chest more facing down so my shoulder doesn't dig in at all. I could also go 3 inch medium or soft Dunlop topper?
Did you do this and enjoy it? Currently doing the same thing
@sherylfinucane5873 so I bought the medium firm. It was firm. I bought the soft topper for 50% off. Since then I have had my hip replaced.
I can sleep on the opposite side, my back, and my stomach. The pressure is too much on my hip replacement though.
Buying a bed online made me a little obsessed and kind of crazy for a few weeks. Because of this, I have gotten a job as a mattress sales person.
Go to a mattress store. Go feel beds you're thinking of buying. Buy based on how it feels to you (pressure relief, and comfort). It's worth the time.
Also I weigh less now, about 200 and its still "soft" enough to sleep on my non replacement side.
It does come firmer and soften up over time. They all do
so what you're saying is talalay is better for sex
Why lay on something more bouncy? Spock Logic tells me and common sense, The harder we blow up a basket ball the higher and faster it will bounce, Why lay on harder and why they are saying it's softer than Dunlop seeing Dunlop has less bounce? Make Boxing gloves out of Talalay and Dunlop and lets see the results after being punched.
Wait! ahh I think I just Contradicted my self because Talalay weight is lighter then Dunlop but latex doesn't hit us we hit the latex that's a twist in logic. ok lets make crash test dummies to crash into a wall of latex lol.
Thanks for this! This was super awesome and helped me to make up my mind. 😻
Which would be best for replacement sofa cushion material?
Thank you so much for the informative video!
I’d like to find a 30x80” slab to make a queen bed, which has split pieces inside the matress, softer than what it is.
And it’s been a lot harder to decipher the “softness” of the latex than what I imagined! 😮😮
I need an firm topper, one that doesn't let me sink in like memory foam. I'm undecided on whether to get medium or firm Dunlop. I'm a side sleeper. Which would work best for someone who tosses and turns all night? And is 2 inches or 3 better for lower back support?
If you're going to get a dunlop I would stick with a medium layer as firm dunlop layer can cause pressure on the shoulders and hips. A medium talalay would be a good option as well.
@@sdmattressmakers Thank you. Would you recommend a 2 or 3 inch Dunlop?
@@EllieLove21 generally for most people 3" is the sweet spot.
@@EllieLove21 what did you pick?
I have used a talalay mattress, (by Beautiful), for the past 10 years. Absolutely the softest but also supportive mattress I've ever owned. I was led to believe it would last for 15-25 years, but just recently I've had the return of back problems.I discovered the middle, (where I sleep the most), has become compressed.( I tested this by laying on one edge, and felt a sensation that my body wanted to roll to the middle). This compressed area cannot be seen visually, but it's definitely there.Final test was sleeping on a regular mattress with a 2 inch topper that yielded no back discomfort the next morning. I am so disappointed that the mattress has only lasted 10 years when I paid big money for it to last!! I'm a bigger guy, (230lbs), but that was not identified as a factor in durability initially. ALSO... it is not often said that these mattresses are super heavy!!! and they are dead weight. If you are in the market for one, be sure to try picking it up before buying. (Yes, I did rotate the mattress every 4-6 months, sometimes by myself which wasn't very easy).
Nothing ever lasts as long as they say. My very expensive topper already has a big tear in it. If I could find the Talalay that I had about 12 years ago I would be in heaven! Like you I'm a big person, I've found the best combo is to get a super firm flat top mattress set and add the toppers to that. That way you get that very firm support but with a couple inches of bliss on top. Yes they are very heavy, but nothing is better than Talalay latex in
My opinion.
Last 8 bed in the boxes ive tried (non latex) last 6 months, so congrats!
@@sweetea7035 is talalay better for heavier individuals?
@@Sssssssslf it definitely has a better feel. And they come in different ILD (firmness rating) if you are heavier I would at least start with a mid range firmness, not the softest. I would also advise to spend a little more and get a zippered cover if the company offers it. They do tend to discolor and get yellow over time.
I need one that won't hurt my back & hips! Which one is best for a
130 pound bedridden person in a hospital bed?? (adjustable bed)
I sleep on my side mostly, but at times fall asleep on my back while
watching tv.
I ordered a Dunlop & it ruined my back & hips. I ordered the soft.
Hi Nun Ya, I would recommend using dunlop in the core but use 1-2 comfort layers of talalay medium-soft firmness that way it can still give you support but also the pressure relief you need for your hips.
Was the soft Dunlop you ordered _too_ soft with no pressure relief?
i was the one that made the name talalay known and it the very best
I have asked 3 companies for samples and offered to pay for them...they refused me!!!
Why not buy the mattresses and return if you don't like?
@@stevenlharris I am disabled and it it difficult to get help.
Big corporations, or smaller guys, like Arizona Premium Mattress Co?
@@CM-xr9oq yes, that one.
@@stevenlharrisbecause most companies don’t just take returns, or you’re liable for the shipping if they do.
Hi, what's the minimum thickness to get the advantage of latex? I'm not a big guy (5'6 160 pound) I want to buy one and it'll be just latex and a cover. Thanks
3" , but you really should have either a firm foam or spring layer below the latex
This helped make up my mind!
Great vid thank u
Damn if only i can find a mattress company that uses both like you said
Those companies exist, if you still wish to know...
@@davidlogan2682 do tell?
Thanks
please in spanish
Companies seem to be going more for Dunlop. I've sent 2 toppers back last year from different companies, I was led to believe I was getting Talalay but in fact they were Dunlop. I had a Talalay for over 10 years. It was AMAZING!!! I'm telling there is no comparison in comfort. The Talalay is a dream to sleep on. The Dunlop (even the soft density) is too firm. I'm saving up to get a real Talalay. I have a feeling they will eventually phase out Talalay.
The Dunlop is cheaper and less complicated to manufacture. The Talalay process is more specialized and costly. There are zero reasons to "phase out" talalay, as there are plenty of people willing to spend more for the talalay properties.
Birch mattress makes it with talalay
Ecoterrabeds makes talalay.
Did you find one because I’m returning my Dunlap it’s hard as a rock
@@monicahurd6637 I just looked up the company that I bought my last one from and they only sell Dunlop now. They do have them on Amazon, but you have to very diligent in reading fine print. It has to say Talalay, if it doesn't, it's probably Dunlop or some hybrid of the two.