I really like Ireland's entry this year. Perhaps it doesn't fit the traditional Eurovision mold, and that's what I appreciate. The creativity, the horror-fairytale mashup, the vocals, choreography, and staging-all of it resonates with me. While Eurovision showcases many singers, I'd say Bambie Thug stands on a higher artistic level. Nothing to add, nothing to take.
I stand with you. This is theatre on other level. They performed very well. This music style isnt new or something. It has been there for decades already. Glad this genre entered the ESC stage. Exciting to see what its gonna do. Greetings
So many of us love Bambie!🖤✨️🌙 One just needs to understand the fusion of many different genres to get why this is a progressive approach to composition, not aligned with any mainstream views. But the natjonal jury in Ireland also gave Bambie 12 points, not only the public!🙏 As a part of the Gothic scene I have to love this and to celebrate all night long, because Bambie Thug is giving us alternative people a voice and is speaking out for those who are different - not only in their musical tastes, but also in their worldviews and lifestyles. "Doomsday Blue" as a composition already delivers everything a lover of dark, enigmatic and slightly progressive music could ever dream of: The fusion of mesmerizing genres that originally shouldn't fit together but create a perfect mélange in these three minutes of the most beautiful fever dream, screams that are piercing marrow and bone, clean vocals that will haunt me at day and night even decades after Eurovision 2024, pulsating electronica that almost sound like they're emerging from a demonic realm, and a grand finale smashing the earth with heaviness and high energy!🖤⛧✨️🌙 # sendthewitch was successful , and I'm being honest when I say that I was bursting into tears when the results came in! Eurovision definitely needs diversity and outstanding acts, not only mainstream pop, and here we have some of the most special and profound art, evoked by a insanely creative, impressively passionate and instantly touching human being. Bambie was touching my soul through the screen, even in all the interviews - but the performance exceeded my expectations even on this small national final stage. Just imagine how this will look like on the big stage!🔥 I couldn't be happier: Not only to be represented and to have a voice I can wholeheartedly identify with at Eurovision, but also because Bambie deserves it. Everyone saw how well-deserved this victory was: On stage and off stage. The crowd was on fire for "Doomsday Blue"! And if I say that this is one of my happiest days in life, I don't exaggerate. This is not just another Eurovision act for me, this is an act that is expressing who I am. Bambie, CAST THE SPELL OVER MALMÖ!🖤✨️🌙⛧
Hi, Jan. I'll just ask a question: Who gets to decide what constitutes music? Throughout history, people have evolved music. There have been times when "new" music never received appreciation until after a composer was dead. This was often true in classical and romantic times when composers changed "music" too much. In the early 1900s when atonal music came on the scene, it was largely rejected as random noise. Then it got traction and became of field of composition study at even prestigious conservatories. For me, "music" isn't just about chords, progressions, and lyrics (if applicable). Music IS about an experience, and it IS about expression as well. That's where this entry resonates with me. It's an expression of two important and competing struggles: 1) being nonbinary, and 2) the chaos of mental health struggles and the battle between highs and lows that you do not control--they control you. You're at their mercy, and it must be infuriating. Especially when the vast majority of people around you insist on invalidating you and saying "it's all in your head." It's okay to not like it. It's okay to say Ireland made a huge mistake. It's okay to criticize it. It's even okay to say it's not music. But there's also nothing wrong with letting people express it and experience it on the biggest stages. Because it's not up to us to decide. Love your channel and the fact you're willing to express (see what I did there?) potentially unpopular opinions. So many channels tell people what they want to hear in a desperate pandering for subscriptions and likes. Best, Craig
Scandinavia decides...a woman washed her hands in a piss pot a few years ago, she went straight to the final and last year someone with rat claw freddy crugar finger nails sitting under a car crusher whaling like a banshi won...but when its ireland we have to be analysed to death.
as I wrote someone else in here dor the very similar question, I will just shorten it - the fact you can use color on canvas is not make your creation an art. And this is exactly my feeling. In general - i dont think this is a song and feel like I am forced to believe it is even something more than this. But I dont like to play this game and therefore thats just my opinion anyway :) So I am glad there is a discussion. As still no one told me what is the think to see in this performance, what I have missed. Its more about why I dont see it the opposite way. But I have described it in the video.
everyone is analysed, especially something which goes to represent the country. Talking about Loreen last year, there is no need for jelousy about it. No one was questioning Bambie's look.
This act is the best IVE seen in the last 20 years on the ESC stage. And Im from 1969. Them staging will be amazing. Im kinda familiar with these kina genres Industrial/Gothic/dark electro/punk as I used to listen that. This is soo artistic and theatrical. They will slide thru the Finals. Enjoy your Doomsday Mondayblue tomorrow!! GREETINGS FROM AMSTERDAM.
I am experiencing this for the probably very first time. This act is extremely polarising. 50% like it and 50% dont. I kinda now it can be a good performance. There I kinda have no doubt as it already was one in the national selection. The rest... anyway, glad you like it! Happy for you :)
@@JanBors thank you. I understand and respect your reaction. Im kinda familiar with this dark Electro/industrial/Punk and Gothic style as i used listening this some years ago. I think they are doing this very well and will shock ESC 24. Welcome back Ireland. It took awhile XXX
The thing for me that is so impressive is how good Bambie is as a performer. The song from Finland last year, cha cha cha, is not a song, who listens cha cha cha on the radio No one. But it was amazing performance and rightfully took the people’s vote. We need variety and there’s always space for talented people
Actually cha cha cha was very popular also in many countries in the radio. Anyway I agree we need variety and talent. Imo it is a bit sad, they have chosen this song from a briliant album. Btw watch my other video about Bambie, where I get deeper into this topic
The eurovision is no longer about being a song contest, its a performance contest with good staging and something different. This stands out 100%. Also would you consider rap music since rap isnt being sung? For your education the definition of music is "vocal or instrumental sounds (or both) combined in such a way as to produce beauty of form, harmony, and expression of emotion."
Mr. Jan Bors here is part of the panel that selected the finalists for the Luxembourg national final. Thanks to him expressing his views on what constitutes music and what not, now I understand why we have those songs.
Thx for telling me but I dont rly like to be fooled around this way. 1st of all eurovision is a song contest and that of course includes performance as it is a live format. And by this - the performance, I can tell it worked nice. Just technically speaking. Jts not about rap or this... its like Picasso - thats art. You playing with colors home on canvas is also art? Well, if we shrink it to the fact of using colours on canvas, everyone is artist then. And then its fine.
I always appreciate honesty. If that's how you feel about the song, that's how you feel. I would also like to know who you think Ireland should've sent. Everyone except Bambie and possibly Ailsha were guaranteed NQ's imo, so it's better to send a risk. Sending Bambie, opens the door for more alternative acts to apply for Eurosong. Our national final has lacked creativity and Eurosong is basically seen as a contest for middle of the road pop songs. If Bambie qualifies (which is a possibility), that's great but the national final in Ireland has just been terrible in recent years. It's not even that important for us to qualify for the grand final. This is more about changing our national final. When that changes, hopefully we will get our rewards at Eurovision. The goal is to have semi-finals which can showcase even more Irish artists, different genres and move away from the Late Late Show. I do agree with you that juries should be in the SF but they're not, so Ireland has to take a risk and go after the televote. I 100% agree that this will receive a really bad jury score but maybe some points will be given for uniqueness. It gets people talking about Eurosong and Eurovision. From looking at Bambie's social media pages, they look like the kind of person that you just can't ignore. Bambie is just such an artistic and creative person, who will have the most interesting outfits all during Eurovision. There is no doubt that Bambie will be in the spotlight.
yes, I agree with you. And also I need to check the selection today as I just literally saw and heard Bambie live. So maybe it was far the best. No clue. Lets see of what is comming up in Ireland. I am glad someone is still pushing Eurovision and tries to find a way for succession. Good.
(longish comment coming) Very interesting perspective, the song is a very divisive song, as exemplified by this reaction, which is exactly what the Irish fans felt was needed! Whether you love it or hate it, which is completely valid, I assure you that the Irish fans as well as (most of) the general public in Ireland don't view this as a "troll" or a "joke" - it is doing great numbers (400k views in 24 hours, which has never happened for any Irish Eurovision act in a NF before, not even Brooke got as many views in her first 24 hours), and has had even many members of the older generation supporting it. The amount of parents and grandparents that have supported the song is astounding! Even the studio panel were talking about how Ireland has played it safe for too long and done nothing, and that a risk was sorely needed. The National Final as a whole was an improved package from past years, but still needs a lot of work! The host was better, the songs were better (in comparison to previous years), the overall vibe and energy were better. The acoustics and mixing in that studio (and RTÉ) have been famed for being bad, and that shows in the show. The other main competitive song was "Go Tobann". Ailsha's performance and staging made sense to a domestic audience who understood the message of the song, but the song derived too far from what made it so loved by many of its fans in the first place, that deep, growling sound. Other acts such as Erica-Cody were let down by the quality of the song rather than the performance itself. "Doomsday Blue" really can do anything in Eurovision, in my opinion. The song could very easily fail to qualify similarly to Telemóveis (PT 2019), or could (key word could) do very well in the final. I can imagine that many newspapers across Europe may have Bambie Thug as their cover photo due to their aesthetic, increasing their publicity. The song is something we really haven't heard before in Eurovision, non-binary musical screaming! There is indeed an audience for this, it won the selection in Ireland after all, a country not usually known for being particularly 'out there'. And that's what makes it exciting. Love it or hate it, the average person will remember it after all acts have performed. Funny you mentioned "Samo mi se spava", Luke Black and Bambie Thug are good friends and Bambie applied thanks to being inspired by Luke at ESC.
I think what is most important, that it is backed by the country. it pops out for Irish and it started this believe. Also I take the huge possibility of being wrong on this completely and this is ok. It is truly polarising, also I did not see other acts. What I can add, but I think it is in the video, that as a performance this is ok. I morelikely have a problem with the show as a song / musicality of it. This is what I question. The rest, why not. After all, if this makes country proud, I am very glad that finally something!
I think there were not a best option in that NF. I agree with your thoughts about this performance. It's perfect for a Halloween party but that's all. I appreciate your sincere opinion and I share completely your reaction this time. But in the Irish selection there weren't any song to get through the Final. This will stand out in one way or another in its semifinal and the ballarina part is funny at least. And don't feel sorry for sharing your honest opinion. It's perfect that way and there must be a lot of people thinking the same. Thanks for your vids
Issue is that we have had the same national jury in ireland for years since the 80s. Because of that we have only sent very safe and useless songs that never get through. This is a fusion of rap and heavy metal all wrapped in celtic mythology! Thr symbols all ahve meaning, the dancers are pucca irish celtic spirits and their dresses and sounds like a daoineshee (spirit who cries when death is about to happen) so a lot of it is context. That your unaware of maybe. We the public got sick of things being too safe.
OMG you said it is not a song it is a theatrical performance. What in the hell do you think the Eurovision has become over the last 20 or so years?? It hasn't been a song contest in years.
It use to be a singing competition that's why we won 7 times , then lordy won and turned it into a spectical times have changed this is now eorovision I could send my granny to eorovision.
thanks for a comment but I highly disagree. Eurovision changed for much better after Lordy to amazing modern tv / singing and performance contest but I feel its starting to coming back to 2000s. But actually singing is not a problem here, I dont even care about visuals. Thats what I for sure like. But the song refers to those years - or its not the best in genre for sure and it plays the note of 2000s eurovison cliche. BUT - ireland wanted this, and even irelans hates those years, now they love Bambi, the song, believing in winning. The last thing is delusional but the others are amazing step forward.
Eurovision 1950’s to early 1990’s ran with ballads and pure vocals then Lordy and such changed the full dynamics of what classes as music. It became a spectacle and now Euro fans expect it to be. This one stops and makes you think.
I like bits of this - The staging is interesting. This does feel like a theatre school act. Not for me, not the screaming bits, but I am happy for the Irish fans who adore it.
Hey Jan, Thank your for your productivity this euroseason. Firstly I was worried that your reaction changed from being honest to more audience attracting style, but it's nice to see that your real thoughts are still there. About this song. Now matter how many so-called fans would be running around saying about greatness and geniousness of such product (i used to take part in such activities years ago), the reality is boring as hell: this was bad selection with weak both songs and other participants. No offence to artits, shame on broadcaster. I'm sure there are dozens of talented artists in Ireland, yet we get to watch pale shadow of One Direction/ 80`s track which is bad even for Melodifestivalen declined demo / ect...
I would not put blame on anyone. It is a process and maybe this is the way. The performance was after watching all of them the best. That I must admit. If its gonna work or if this a good step forward will only time tell. Thx for your support! :)
First, congrats to Bambie Thug, for making some art that made it to the world stage. Having said that...I hate it. I keep watching the video hoping I can "get" it, but it just isn't happening for me. I can see it qualifying through the public vote because it is different and people love novelty.
This whole genre is my favorite type of music. Unfortunately most of the songs I listen to are Japanese but the whole blend of styles can be quite addictive. Kaarija was just a start but my guess is that we are going to hear a lot more blended songs in the future! It's a bit like those flute players who beatbox over classical pieces. Anyway.. Put PassCode - ATLAS (PassCode CLARITY Plus Tour 19-20 Final at STUDIO COAST) or if you're feeling really adventerous 椎名ぴかりん / 確認事項：しあわせとかについて（OFFICIAL) in your calendar to react to when the whole eurovision is over. You'll probably say that it isn't music either. But at least it will broaden your horizon and maybe give your viewers a good laugh and discussion! Thanks for this video I await the moment you go from wtf to ftw and enjoy it too! 😉
Thx for such a nice comment! Rly! I think you are right that music fusion is the new way. There will be more and more. And thats ok. I think in this genres you can find outstanding stuff and also some nieche, which for sure this ouja-pop is. Why not. We dont need to like everything and as we say, all good has its buyers. Just to be clear - Bambi Thug nailed the live-performance, I actually have no problem with this. Clean vocals, staging, also directed it was nicely, light great. So it also showed the small stage doesnt need to be a limit. Its an opportunity. Compared to others, this was full package. I have only "problem" with a song and even though I see the big excitement, not sure if this is a beneficial for the whole contest and also if its not just a bubble. Anyway, we'll see in reality and I would be glad that it can bring more positives than negatives in to the whole bigger picture.
live it works for sure, for me to understands this looks like a cut off scene from a theater play. Even musically even visually. It has this musicallity but for me its more a theater / musical act than actually a song. Even though I have no other feelings to it. What I love, it created mania in Ireland which is very new. So its amazing for this
This is not new. This goth industrial sound has been around and appreciated for years. Ever heard of Marilyn Manson or Nine Inch Nails or even David Bowie's '90"s stuff ? Add some Kate Bush. AWESOMENESS!
Your video is making an argument for why juries should be banned and I am against them being banned. It’s nice to have a music industry standard but calling everything experimental “not music” doesn’t help with credibility.
juries should be banned for what reason exactly? Also no one calls everything experimental not music, just I called this is hardly a song. But its a performance. For sure. Also said.
Well you probably missed last years drama where everyone was calling for the juries to be banned. Well it is a song, it has lyrics, melody and tempo. Calling it “not a song” just because it doesn’t match a radio standard is a little bit reductive to what a song can be.
@@Iamyouiay this is all based on emotions, but this way eurovision goes to hell and we go back to 2000s and dustin the turkey. Rather watch my whole video, how and why I am argumenting or even rather tell me what I miss. What do you like on it, why are you rooting for it. As this is still very subjective and I can miss many things. Especially after just right after watching in once, first time. That would be much more helpful and constructive. I gave you my arguments, give me yours :)
@@JanBors Sorry if it didn’t came across as a constructive commentary. I am not specially rooting for Bambie Thug and I also believe that Eurovision should have certain standard on quality but not on genres or artistic expression. Dustin the turkey is a good exemple to start with. Putting standards to limit access to performances like Dustin’s may put the same restrictions on the next generations Kraftwerk or Diamanda Galas participating in Eurovision. And it would be so boring if Eurovision became synonymous with blend ballad, pop or rock songs perfectly composed for industrial purposes.
@@Iamyouiay you are right, its always a choice. I rather see Eurovision growing and being accessible to artists who want to bring quality instead of being laughted at for taking part then having Turkeys but both are the ways. In case of Turkeys, you can forget Barbora's Mochowa, Lake Malwi but probably even Mikolas Josefs like artists would even consider participating. This is my bigger fear than having just quality balada, dance pop songs and amazing rock/metal bands. And thats it. After all this and next year with semifinals without juries will set the course for another 5-8 years.
hi im wondering why you and others react to this contest? its like as if you want to get people to like or dislike some of the songs. Do you react to new songs by famous artists like Taylor Swift , what you say makes a difference to people's feelings about these performers, I was hoping Ireland would be left alone now that sweden has got equal, I think wheather Israel should be in the ESC this yr as Russia was removed should be spoken about, reactions to that ,
Eurovision is the biggest television show in the world. Also it is the only one excluding sports which connects various countries. Its a tradition and its a CONTEST - a clash of music. ythats why it is interesting to comment on it, as someone else comments on football team tactics and players. And I am simply giving to this public space my opinion, for discussion, to learn something new or to make someone think. Simple as that. Russia was removed cuz it terroristically attaced sovereign democratic country for zero reason. How you can even compare it to Israel? 7/10 does not ring the bell?
this can be, it is an opinion after all, I see this is very polarising song or performance most likely. Having exactly 50:50 reactions on it and nothing in the middle. What is most important is actually not what I think but that Ireland finally backs its own artist
I really like Ireland's entry this year. Perhaps it doesn't fit the traditional Eurovision mold, and that's what I appreciate. The creativity, the horror-fairytale mashup, the vocals, choreography, and staging-all of it resonates with me. While Eurovision showcases many singers, I'd say Bambie Thug stands on a higher artistic level. Nothing to add, nothing to take.
Glad for you! grear! :)
I stand with you. This is theatre on other level. They performed very well. This music style isnt new or something. It has been there for decades already. Glad this genre entered the ESC stage. Exciting to see what its gonna do. Greetings
So many of us love Bambie!🖤✨️🌙 One just needs to understand the fusion of many different genres to get why this is a progressive approach to composition, not aligned with any mainstream views. But the natjonal jury in Ireland also gave Bambie 12 points, not only the public!🙏
As a part of the Gothic scene I have to love this and to celebrate all night long, because Bambie Thug is giving us alternative people a voice and is speaking out for those who are different - not only in their musical tastes, but also in their worldviews and lifestyles. "Doomsday Blue" as a composition already delivers everything a lover of dark, enigmatic and slightly progressive music could ever dream of: The fusion of mesmerizing genres that originally shouldn't fit together but create a perfect mélange in these three minutes of the most beautiful fever dream, screams that are piercing marrow and bone, clean vocals that will haunt me at day and night even decades after Eurovision 2024, pulsating electronica that almost sound like they're emerging from a demonic realm, and a grand finale smashing the earth with heaviness and high energy!🖤⛧✨️🌙 # sendthewitch was successful , and I'm being honest when I say that I was bursting into tears when the results came in! Eurovision definitely needs diversity and outstanding acts, not only mainstream pop, and here we have some of the most special and profound art, evoked by a insanely creative, impressively passionate and instantly touching human being. Bambie was touching my soul through the screen, even in all the interviews - but the performance exceeded my expectations even on this small national final stage. Just imagine how this will look like on the big stage!🔥 I couldn't be happier: Not only to be represented and to have a voice I can wholeheartedly identify with at Eurovision, but also because Bambie deserves it. Everyone saw how well-deserved this victory was: On stage and off stage. The crowd was on fire for "Doomsday Blue"! And if I say that this is one of my happiest days in life, I don't exaggerate. This is not just another Eurovision act for me, this is an act that is expressing who I am. Bambie, CAST THE SPELL OVER MALMÖ!🖤✨️🌙⛧
good, I feel its a trick to feel it special but I cannot share it. Even I am a metalhead... or maybe because. Glad you like it
Hi, Jan. I'll just ask a question: Who gets to decide what constitutes music? Throughout history, people have evolved music. There have been times when "new" music never received appreciation until after a composer was dead. This was often true in classical and romantic times when composers changed "music" too much. In the early 1900s when atonal music came on the scene, it was largely rejected as random noise. Then it got traction and became of field of composition study at even prestigious conservatories.
For me, "music" isn't just about chords, progressions, and lyrics (if applicable). Music IS about an experience, and it IS about expression as well. That's where this entry resonates with me. It's an expression of two important and competing struggles: 1) being nonbinary, and 2) the chaos of mental health struggles and the battle between highs and lows that you do not control--they control you. You're at their mercy, and it must be infuriating. Especially when the vast majority of people around you insist on invalidating you and saying "it's all in your head."
It's okay to not like it. It's okay to say Ireland made a huge mistake. It's okay to criticize it. It's even okay to say it's not music. But there's also nothing wrong with letting people express it and experience it on the biggest stages. Because it's not up to us to decide.
Love your channel and the fact you're willing to express (see what I did there?) potentially unpopular opinions. So many channels tell people what they want to hear in a desperate pandering for subscriptions and likes. Best, Craig
Scandinavia decides...a woman washed her hands in a piss pot a few years ago, she went straight to the final and last year someone with rat claw freddy crugar finger nails sitting under a car crusher whaling like a banshi won...but when its ireland we have to be analysed to death.
as I wrote someone else in here dor the very similar question, I will just shorten it - the fact you can use color on canvas is not make your creation an art. And this is exactly my feeling. In general - i dont think this is a song and feel like I am forced to believe it is even something more than this. But I dont like to play this game and therefore thats just my opinion anyway :) So I am glad there is a discussion. As still no one told me what is the think to see in this performance, what I have missed. Its more about why I dont see it the opposite way. But I have described it in the video.
ans after all I agree with the fact - it is not up to us to decide, for sure and thats also a good thing.
everyone is analysed, especially something which goes to represent the country. Talking about Loreen last year, there is no need for jelousy about it. No one was questioning Bambie's look.
This act is the best IVE seen in the last 20 years on the ESC stage. And Im from 1969.
Them staging will be amazing.
Im kinda familiar with these kina genres Industrial/Gothic/dark electro/punk as I used to listen that.
This is soo artistic and theatrical. They will slide thru the Finals.
Enjoy your Doomsday Mondayblue tomorrow!!
GREETINGS FROM AMSTERDAM.
I am experiencing this for the probably very first time. This act is extremely polarising. 50% like it and 50% dont. I kinda now it can be a good performance. There I kinda have no doubt as it already was one in the national selection. The rest... anyway, glad you like it! Happy for you :)
@@JanBors thank you. I understand and respect your reaction. Im kinda familiar with this dark Electro/industrial/Punk and Gothic style as i used listening this some years ago. I think they are doing this very well and will shock ESC 24. Welcome back Ireland. It took awhile XXX
Its different takes a second listening and then you'll be hooked
I listened to it already like 100 times and still its on my last place from all the ep... which is btw amazing
When I listened first I dismissed it. When I saw it live , I loved it . I think a lot of people will love it too. Go Ireland 😊
The thing for me that is so impressive is how good Bambie is as a performer. The song from Finland last year, cha cha cha, is not a song, who listens cha cha cha on the radio No one. But it was amazing performance and rightfully took the people’s vote. We need variety and there’s always space for talented people
Actually cha cha cha was very popular also in many countries in the radio. Anyway I agree we need variety and talent. Imo it is a bit sad, they have chosen this song from a briliant album. Btw watch my other video about Bambie, where I get deeper into this topic
Love it, well done Ireland best of luck.
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The eurovision is no longer about being a song contest, its a performance contest with good staging and something different. This stands out 100%. Also would you consider rap music since rap isnt being sung? For your education the definition of music is "vocal or instrumental sounds (or both) combined in such a way as to produce beauty of form, harmony, and expression of emotion."
Mr. Jan Bors here is part of the panel that selected the finalists for the Luxembourg national final. Thanks to him expressing his views on what constitutes music and what not, now I understand why we have those songs.
Thx for telling me but I dont rly like to be fooled around this way. 1st of all eurovision is a song contest and that of course includes performance as it is a live format. And by this - the performance, I can tell it worked nice. Just technically speaking. Jts not about rap or this... its like Picasso - thats art. You playing with colors home on canvas is also art? Well, if we shrink it to the fact of using colours on canvas, everyone is artist then. And then its fine.
No matter what you say, Bambie is way ahead of you. You have a small mind.
Would be nice to move on in the context :)
I always appreciate honesty. If that's how you feel about the song, that's how you feel. I would also like to know who you think Ireland should've sent. Everyone except Bambie and possibly Ailsha were guaranteed NQ's imo, so it's better to send a risk.
Sending Bambie, opens the door for more alternative acts to apply for Eurosong. Our national final has lacked creativity and Eurosong is basically seen as a contest for middle of the road pop songs. If Bambie qualifies (which is a possibility), that's great but the national final in Ireland has just been terrible in recent years. It's not even that important for us to qualify for the grand final. This is more about changing our national final. When that changes, hopefully we will get our rewards at Eurovision. The goal is to have semi-finals which can showcase even more Irish artists, different genres and move away from the Late Late Show.
I do agree with you that juries should be in the SF but they're not, so Ireland has to take a risk and go after the televote. I 100% agree that this will receive a really bad jury score but maybe some points will be given for uniqueness.
It gets people talking about Eurosong and Eurovision. From looking at Bambie's social media pages, they look like the kind of person that you just can't ignore. Bambie is just such an artistic and creative person, who will have the most interesting outfits all during Eurovision. There is no doubt that Bambie will be in the spotlight.
yes, I agree with you. And also I need to check the selection today as I just literally saw and heard Bambie live. So maybe it was far the best. No clue. Lets see of what is comming up in Ireland. I am glad someone is still pushing Eurovision and tries to find a way for succession. Good.
Takes a second listening then you'll be hooked best off luck Ireland 🇮🇪🎉
I am preparing a special about Bambi, so you'll find out if I changed my mind or not after much more than just one listen.
Wow it's amazing
(longish comment coming)
Very interesting perspective, the song is a very divisive song, as exemplified by this reaction, which is exactly what the Irish fans felt was needed! Whether you love it or hate it, which is completely valid, I assure you that the Irish fans as well as (most of) the general public in Ireland don't view this as a "troll" or a "joke" - it is doing great numbers (400k views in 24 hours, which has never happened for any Irish Eurovision act in a NF before, not even Brooke got as many views in her first 24 hours), and has had even many members of the older generation supporting it. The amount of parents and grandparents that have supported the song is astounding! Even the studio panel were talking about how Ireland has played it safe for too long and done nothing, and that a risk was sorely needed.
The National Final as a whole was an improved package from past years, but still needs a lot of work! The host was better, the songs were better (in comparison to previous years), the overall vibe and energy were better. The acoustics and mixing in that studio (and RTÉ) have been famed for being bad, and that shows in the show. The other main competitive song was "Go Tobann". Ailsha's performance and staging made sense to a domestic audience who understood the message of the song, but the song derived too far from what made it so loved by many of its fans in the first place, that deep, growling sound. Other acts such as Erica-Cody were let down by the quality of the song rather than the performance itself.
"Doomsday Blue" really can do anything in Eurovision, in my opinion. The song could very easily fail to qualify similarly to Telemóveis (PT 2019), or could (key word could) do very well in the final. I can imagine that many newspapers across Europe may have Bambie Thug as their cover photo due to their aesthetic, increasing their publicity. The song is something we really haven't heard before in Eurovision, non-binary musical screaming! There is indeed an audience for this, it won the selection in Ireland after all, a country not usually known for being particularly 'out there'. And that's what makes it exciting. Love it or hate it, the average person will remember it after all acts have performed.
Funny you mentioned "Samo mi se spava", Luke Black and Bambie Thug are good friends and Bambie applied thanks to being inspired by Luke at ESC.
I think what is most important, that it is backed by the country. it pops out for Irish and it started this believe. Also I take the huge possibility of being wrong on this completely and this is ok. It is truly polarising, also I did not see other acts. What I can add, but I think it is in the video, that as a performance this is ok. I morelikely have a problem with the show as a song / musicality of it. This is what I question. The rest, why not. After all, if this makes country proud, I am very glad that finally something!
I think there were not a best option in that NF. I agree with your thoughts about this performance. It's perfect for a Halloween party but that's all. I appreciate your sincere opinion and I share completely your reaction this time. But in the Irish selection there weren't any song to get through the Final. This will stand out in one way or another in its semifinal and the ballarina part is funny at least. And don't feel sorry for sharing your honest opinion. It's perfect that way and there must be a lot of people thinking the same. Thanks for your vids
thx for support, as you say, maybe it was the best choice, and even not - irelans voted for it full scale, so its absolutely fine by me.
Issue is that we have had the same national jury in ireland for years since the 80s. Because of that we have only sent very safe and useless songs that never get through. This is a fusion of rap and heavy metal all wrapped in celtic mythology! Thr symbols all ahve meaning, the dancers are pucca irish celtic spirits and their dresses and sounds like a daoineshee (spirit who cries when death is about to happen) so a lot of it is context. That your unaware of maybe. We the public got sick of things being too safe.
honestly you have sent the only song where the artist could actually sing it. But I am amazed how Ireland loves it and thats everything after all.
Top 3 for sure 🎉🎉🎉
at Eurovision?
OMG you said it is not a song it is a theatrical performance. What in the hell do you think the Eurovision has become over the last 20 or so years?? It hasn't been a song contest in years.
oh, ok...
It use to be a singing competition that's why we won 7 times , then lordy won and turned it into a spectical times have changed this is now eorovision I could send my granny to eorovision.
thanks for a comment but I highly disagree. Eurovision changed for much better after Lordy to amazing modern tv / singing and performance contest but I feel its starting to coming back to 2000s. But actually singing is not a problem here, I dont even care about visuals. Thats what I for sure like. But the song refers to those years - or its not the best in genre for sure and it plays the note of 2000s eurovison cliche. BUT - ireland wanted this, and even irelans hates those years, now they love Bambi, the song, believing in winning. The last thing is delusional but the others are amazing step forward.
Eurovision 1950’s to early 1990’s ran with ballads and pure vocals then Lordy and such changed the full dynamics of what classes as music. It became a spectacle and now Euro fans expect it to be. This one stops and makes you think.
thats for sure and I am having thoughts a out it for several days already
I like bits of this - The staging is interesting. This does feel like a theatre school act. Not for me, not the screaming bits, but I am happy for the Irish fans who adore it.
this is also making me happy!
Wow . . . Class act.
Hey Jan,
Thank your for your productivity this euroseason. Firstly I was worried that your reaction changed from being honest to more audience attracting style, but it's nice to see that your real thoughts are still there. About this song. Now matter how many so-called fans would be running around saying about greatness and geniousness of such product (i used to take part in such activities years ago), the reality is boring as hell: this was bad selection with weak both songs and other participants. No offence to artits, shame on broadcaster. I'm sure there are dozens of talented artists in Ireland, yet we get to watch pale shadow of One Direction/ 80`s track which is bad even for Melodifestivalen declined demo / ect...
I would not put blame on anyone. It is a process and maybe this is the way. The performance was after watching all of them the best. That I must admit. If its gonna work or if this a good step forward will only time tell. Thx for your support! :)
wow
PS Bambi calls it "ouija pop"
make sense
First, congrats to Bambie Thug, for making some art that made it to the world stage. Having said that...I hate it. I keep watching the video hoping I can "get" it, but it just isn't happening for me. I can see it qualifying through the public vote because it is different and people love novelty.
I dont hate it. I have just completely different view and will share it. And also some positivity
Who was your favourite of Eurosong Jan? Mine was Erica Cody
I did not see live performances of the rest, but as a song Go Tobann
This whole genre is my favorite type of music. Unfortunately most of the songs I listen to are Japanese but the whole blend of styles can be quite addictive. Kaarija was just a start but my guess is that we are going to hear a lot more blended songs in the future! It's a bit like those flute players who beatbox over classical pieces. Anyway.. Put PassCode - ATLAS (PassCode CLARITY Plus Tour 19-20 Final at STUDIO COAST) or if you're feeling really adventerous 椎名ぴかりん / 確認事項：しあわせとかについて（OFFICIAL) in your calendar to react to when the whole eurovision is over. You'll probably say that it isn't music either. But at least it will broaden your horizon and maybe give your viewers a good laugh and discussion! Thanks for this video I await the moment you go from wtf to ftw and enjoy it too! 😉
Thx for such a nice comment! Rly! I think you are right that music fusion is the new way. There will be more and more. And thats ok. I think in this genres you can find outstanding stuff and also some nieche, which for sure this ouja-pop is.
Why not. We dont need to like everything and as we say, all good has its buyers. Just to be clear - Bambi Thug nailed the live-performance, I actually have no problem with this. Clean vocals, staging, also directed it was nicely, light great. So it also showed the small stage doesnt need to be a limit. Its an opportunity. Compared to others, this was full package. I have only "problem" with a song and even though I see the big excitement, not sure if this is a beneficial for the whole contest and also if its not just a bubble.
Anyway, we'll see in reality and I would be glad that it can bring more positives than negatives in to the whole bigger picture.
Conan Osiris: 2019.
I loved it live, not on the radio - I think it’ll be great on the stage. I don’t think it’s fair to say it doesn’t have musicality 🤷🏻♂️
live it works for sure, for me to understands this looks like a cut off scene from a theater play. Even musically even visually. It has this musicallity but for me its more a theater / musical act than actually a song. Even though I have no other feelings to it. What I love, it created mania in Ireland which is very new. So its amazing for this
This is not new. This goth industrial sound has been around and appreciated for years. Ever heard of Marilyn Manson or Nine Inch Nails or even David Bowie's '90"s stuff ? Add some Kate Bush. AWESOMENESS!
good to watch it all when I am saying this :)
with one detail - this fusion - as it is as Bambi says - Oija-pop
Jan a question, israel in or israel out?
israel stays, there is no question about it
maybe if you stop, talking you might hear the song
maybe... thats exactly the issue :)
Your video is making an argument for why juries should be banned and I am against them being banned.
It’s nice to have a music industry standard but calling everything experimental “not music” doesn’t help with credibility.
juries should be banned for what reason exactly? Also no one calls everything experimental not music, just I called this is hardly a song. But its a performance. For sure. Also said.
Well you probably missed last years drama where everyone was calling for the juries to be banned.
Well it is a song, it has lyrics, melody and tempo. Calling it “not a song” just because it doesn’t match a radio standard is a little bit reductive to what a song can be.
@@Iamyouiay this is all based on emotions, but this way eurovision goes to hell and we go back to 2000s and dustin the turkey. Rather watch my whole video, how and why I am argumenting or even rather tell me what I miss. What do you like on it, why are you rooting for it. As this is still very subjective and I can miss many things. Especially after just right after watching in once, first time. That would be much more helpful and constructive. I gave you my arguments, give me yours :)
@@JanBors Sorry if it didn’t came across as a constructive commentary.
I am not specially rooting for Bambie Thug and I also believe that Eurovision should have certain standard on quality but not on genres or artistic expression.
Dustin the turkey is a good exemple to start with. Putting standards to limit access to performances like Dustin’s may put the same restrictions on the next generations Kraftwerk or Diamanda Galas participating in Eurovision.
And it would be so boring if Eurovision became synonymous with blend ballad, pop or rock songs perfectly composed for industrial purposes.
@@Iamyouiay you are right, its always a choice. I rather see Eurovision growing and being accessible to artists who want to bring quality instead of being laughted at for taking part then having Turkeys but both are the ways. In case of Turkeys, you can forget Barbora's Mochowa, Lake Malwi but probably even Mikolas Josefs like artists would even consider participating. This is my bigger fear than having just quality balada, dance pop songs and amazing rock/metal bands. And thats it. After all this and next year with semifinals without juries will set the course for another 5-8 years.
Mate you dont have a clue do a channel on something else 😂😂😂😂
ofc :)
hi im wondering why you and others react to this contest? its like as if you want to get people to like or dislike some of the songs. Do you react to new songs by famous artists like Taylor Swift , what you say makes a difference to people's feelings about these performers, I was hoping Ireland would be left alone now that sweden has got equal, I think wheather Israel should be in the ESC this yr as Russia was removed should be spoken about, reactions to that ,
Eurovision is the biggest television show in the world. Also it is the only one excluding sports which connects various countries. Its a tradition and its a CONTEST - a clash of music. ythats why it is interesting to comment on it, as someone else comments on football team tactics and players. And I am simply giving to this public space my opinion, for discussion, to learn something new or to make someone think. Simple as that. Russia was removed cuz it terroristically attaced sovereign democratic country for zero reason. How you can even compare it to Israel? 7/10 does not ring the bell?
K had enough of you #ghowla😊
you love the sound of your own voice, you're opinions are all tunnel vision.
this can be, it is an opinion after all, I see this is very polarising song or performance most likely. Having exactly 50:50 reactions on it and nothing in the middle. What is most important is actually not what I think but that Ireland finally backs its own artist
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I'm sorry but this is just soooo cheap.
sorry