Frost is one of those decks that since its buffs has always been around as a fairly popular and strong deck that can deal with a lot of different things without feeling too oppressive to play against (unless your deck is row based). To me it's in a great spot balance-wise and is fun to play.
@@platinumpatrol2964 thank you for your video, your commentary was very helpful. I am currently trying to get to the pro rank as a challenge, cannot get upper than rank 6, it seems that at that point you only encounter meta decks. Do you have any advice? Thanks again.
@@platinumpatrol2964 Okay, got it. I actually had the most success with Frost Devo deck, but I am struggling with other decks and factions. I believe that it can be because I do not really play meta decks. I also had pretty consistent decks with control decks of Skellige and Nilfgaard.
With wild hunt frost I always run 2 Foglets and crew. Folglets for the big points and crew is just very versatile. Never thought about playing morvudd in frost, doesn’t seem too bad.
I really like Crew as well and I'd love to fit 2 Foglets but I couldn't fit them. I opted for 2X Bruiser over crew because I've found it often gives more value when the opponent row stacks by letting you get Frost damage you wouldn't otherwise. I didn't used to play Morvudd in frost either, but I tried it out after seeing other people play it and I'm very happy with it so far. It synergizes very well with the deck's early tempo by giving you a big finisher that isn't reliant on Frost, which can be an issue with Golden Child in a short R3.
Firstly love your content! Secondly I would love to see an Allgod deck, I never see much of him in my games so perhaps a northern realms Archgriffin boost deck? I think that would be fun, if it works💀.
I’ve been running witches sabbath, and I swapped out riptide with cave troll. Also been finding navigator super powerful, getting 12 frost and re playing him with red riders 2 times
@@platinumpatrol2964 In your dwarf armor deck I switched novigrad justice for ale, and backup plans for golden froth. Not the best use of this card, but boy does it feel great to play some happy drunk dwarfs))
Hi, I've wanted to seek help from you as you seem to have a lot more knowledge about this game than a common player. Would Zeal deck consisted of: Renfri Roche: Merciless Boholt Foltest Shani Gaunter O'Dimm Pavetta Vissegerd Kennet and Gar Voymir Blue Stripes Commando x2 Griffin Witcher Mentor x2 Ronvid Blue Stripes Scout x2 Pellar x2 Siege Ladder x2 Siege Tower x2 Redanian Knight x2 Work? I'm not desperate for my deck to be meta and wanted to fit Renfri into Blue Stripes NR but as of bronze engines, utility and removal cards chosen are there any possibly better options? As a mediocre player at best i wanted to ask someone who's really good at this game for directions. Thanks in advice
I don't think a Renfri Blue Stripes deck will work too well. Blue Stripes really benefit from having Amphibous Assault and Oneiromancy/Royal Decree. Firstly, they help you set up the Foltest combo in R1 which is very inconsistent otherwise and play Pavetta at the time you want. You also need to get another Commando after shuffling them back in with Pavetta and those let you play them directly from the deck. Without the special tutor cards, you're stuck with only Roche: Merciless and hard drawing a Commando. With a bunch of Commandos in deck that's not too unlikely, but the biggest problem is if you don't get Pavetta until R3 you only have Roche: Merciless or a lucky draw off Mentors. Another reason AA and Oneiro are so much better for the Commandos is you can play Pavetta R3 and then tutor one of them which stops you from drawing like 3 Commandos after playing Pavetta R2. The other big problem I see is you need an Inspired Zeal charge for your final Blue Stripes Commando which means you can't play Renfri before then or risk ruining your whole strategy if they kill it. One of the best parts about Renfri is the ability to play her early and carry over her leader ability after you've used your own, but you can't really do that here. I suspect this deck would struggle a ton against R2 pressure. However, if you really want to play a Blue Stripes Renfi deck, I think you need more consistency cards. As it is I think you'll find it very difficult to reliably get the setup you want. The best strategy would probably be to go for a R1 setup with Foltest and making a bunch of Commandos, bleed R2 with Pavetta shuffling back and aim for a short R3 with the Commandos and Refnri. You have a spare Leader charge if you use 1 in R1 on the first Commando and then save one for the last R3 Commando (unless that's Roche: Merciless + the Commando he spawns). King Demaveand I think is almost an auto include here since he gives you consistency for your R1 setup and can work on Neutral cards like Renfri later in the game. I think you'd really want him and Triss: Butterflies to improve the consistency, as well as Renfri's Gang. If you're playing Renfri they should really be in the deck since they also help then and play for high tempo without setup which the deck otherwise lacks. Boholt and Shani are nice to have, but I think the consistency is more important than them. As far as other things, Gaunter O Dimm is pretty much a meme card because his removal is too delayed and Inspired Zeal doesn't work on Neutrals anymore. You'd be much better off with Geralt of Rivia, Geralt: Igni, maybe Eskel Pathfinder for removal. Or you could use those provisions for Donmir of Troy to protect your Foltest setup. Radovid for the extra leader charges might be good too. In Inspired Zeal, I generally prefer cards like Seltkirk or Prince Anseis for removal though because of how well they synergize with the leader charge. Unfortunately, I don't think you have enough leader charges without Radovid if you're using them on Commandos and it would be too hard to fit both otherwise, I'd recommend one of them for removal over a Geralt. Ronvid I wouldn't play unless you're going to combo him with Kaedweni Revenant, but I don't think they fit too well in this deck because of the lack of cards like Reinforced Ballista. The Mentors are probably not worth using if you have the other consistency cards. Some other useful options might be Siege Support as another way to give Zeal I think I would try something like this if I had to play Renfri Blue Stripes: Renfri King Demavend Roche: Merciless King Foltest Donmir of Troy or Geralt/Eskel Triss: Butterflies Pavetta Vissegard Voymir Margarita/Dorregaray Renfri's Gang (2) Blue Stripes Commando (2) Siege Support (2) Blue Stripes Scout (2) Pellar (1) Siege Ladder (2) Siege Tower (2) Redanian Knight (2) I would recommend probably playing Blue Stripes without Renfri or playing a different NR deck if you want it to be Renfri though. I don't think they synergize particularly well.
@@platinumpatrol2964 Thanks a lot bro. Didn't expert a reply so long but that was a pleasant surprise. Those tips will be very helpfull. As I said I wanted to make a build that is not so conventional.In fact I didn't even know about not being able to zeal O'Dimm with a leader charge. Nevertheless thanks for the professional advice and by the way I really enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work and have a nice evening. 🤙
@@bubinskyy6276 You can Zeal Gaunter with things like Siege Support, Petri's Philter, and Ves just not the leader. They made it NR exclusive a while ago. Glad to be of help!
@@bubinskyy6276 Depends on what you're facing. Generally I would say probably not, but if you're not running into much control and still don't have enough consistency you could try it
@@chrcz8346 In Dagon's evolved form (Risen) his 5th counter spawns a base copy of Dagon: Risen in hand when it dies. If you get enough Dagon: Risens on board via things like Weavess: Incantation, Arachas Queen, Abaya, etc. and you have a Slyzard to consume a unit every turn, you will have a Dagon: Risen adding a copy of itself to your hand each turn as one of them will reach 5 counters and you kill it. Since you're getting a card added to your hand each turn and the Slyzard consumes a unit each turn (there shouldn't be enough bronze Deathwishes for Risen to brick your rows and that effect will stop going off) you can go infinite and play/consume as many Dagons as you want, or your opponent inevitably forfeits. I believe it's the only infinite combo in the game. I was looking into it to try to find ways to make a 4000-power unit to celebrate getting 4000 subscribers which will hopefully happen soon and it's still the best way to make a giant unit.
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I really enjoy your thoughts and commentary
Love this deck. To be honest, this is the only deck I had an overall consistent experience with. It is able to deal with meta decks.
Frost is one of those decks that since its buffs has always been around as a fairly popular and strong deck that can deal with a lot of different things without feeling too oppressive to play against (unless your deck is row based). To me it's in a great spot balance-wise and is fun to play.
@@platinumpatrol2964 thank you for your video, your commentary was very helpful. I am currently trying to get to the pro rank as a challenge, cannot get upper than rank 6, it seems that at that point you only encounter meta decks. Do you have any advice? Thanks again.
@@Mak7397 It's hard to say without knowing exactly how you're playing the deck. It's performed well enough for me even against the meta decks.
@@platinumpatrol2964 Okay, got it. I actually had the most success with Frost Devo deck, but I am struggling with other decks and factions. I believe that it can be because I do not really play meta decks. I also had pretty consistent decks with control decks of Skellige and Nilfgaard.
love your vids everything you upload is a pleasure!
On a roll with the uploads👍
Excellent narration. You could commentate tournaments!
Would love to see your take on a syndicate hoard deck.
With wild hunt frost I always run 2 Foglets and crew. Folglets for the big points and crew is just very versatile.
Never thought about playing morvudd in frost, doesn’t seem too bad.
I really like Crew as well and I'd love to fit 2 Foglets but I couldn't fit them. I opted for 2X Bruiser over crew because I've found it often gives more value when the opponent row stacks by letting you get Frost damage you wouldn't otherwise.
I didn't used to play Morvudd in frost either, but I tried it out after seeing other people play it and I'm very happy with it so far. It synergizes very well with the deck's early tempo by giving you a big finisher that isn't reliant on Frost, which can be an issue with Golden Child in a short R3.
Always love me some frost deck.
Love to see it !
Firstly love your content! Secondly I would love to see an Allgod deck, I never see much of him in my games so perhaps a northern realms Archgriffin boost deck? I think that would be fun, if it works💀.
I've seen people using Allgod in NR witcher decks using Coen with the Eskel/Vesemir/Lambert trio as the final play
I’ve been running witches sabbath, and I swapped out riptide with cave troll. Also been finding navigator super powerful, getting 12 frost and re playing him with red riders 2 times
Navigator is quite strong. Normally I'd run 2 Navigator instead of the Hound but I hadn't tried the Hound after his buff yet.
I would like to see a meme beer deck video, or some kind of video about gwent beer))
Ale of the Ancestors? It has some actually pretty good decks nowadays.
@@platinumpatrol2964 In your dwarf armor deck I switched novigrad justice for ale, and backup plans for golden froth. Not the best use of this card, but boy does it feel great to play some happy drunk dwarfs))
Any chance for a syndicate deck?
Yup I'll be doing one soon
Hi, I've wanted to seek help from you as you seem to have a lot more knowledge about this game than a common player.
Would Zeal deck consisted of:
Renfri
Roche: Merciless
Boholt
Foltest
Shani
Gaunter O'Dimm
Pavetta
Vissegerd
Kennet and Gar
Voymir
Blue Stripes Commando x2
Griffin Witcher Mentor x2
Ronvid
Blue Stripes Scout x2
Pellar x2
Siege Ladder x2
Siege Tower x2
Redanian Knight x2
Work? I'm not desperate for my deck to be meta and wanted to fit Renfri into Blue Stripes NR but as of bronze engines, utility and removal cards chosen are there any possibly better options? As a mediocre player at best i wanted to ask someone who's really good at this game for directions. Thanks in advice
I don't think a Renfri Blue Stripes deck will work too well. Blue Stripes really benefit from having Amphibous Assault and Oneiromancy/Royal Decree. Firstly, they help you set up the Foltest combo in R1 which is very inconsistent otherwise and play Pavetta at the time you want. You also need to get another Commando after shuffling them back in with Pavetta and those let you play them directly from the deck. Without the special tutor cards, you're stuck with only Roche: Merciless and hard drawing a Commando. With a bunch of Commandos in deck that's not too unlikely, but the biggest problem is if you don't get Pavetta until R3 you only have Roche: Merciless or a lucky draw off Mentors. Another reason AA and Oneiro are so much better for the Commandos is you can play Pavetta R3 and then tutor one of them which stops you from drawing like 3 Commandos after playing Pavetta R2.
The other big problem I see is you need an Inspired Zeal charge for your final Blue Stripes Commando which means you can't play Renfri before then or risk ruining your whole strategy if they kill it. One of the best parts about Renfri is the ability to play her early and carry over her leader ability after you've used your own, but you can't really do that here. I suspect this deck would struggle a ton against R2 pressure.
However, if you really want to play a Blue Stripes Renfi deck, I think you need more consistency cards. As it is I think you'll find it very difficult to reliably get the setup you want. The best strategy would probably be to go for a R1 setup with Foltest and making a bunch of Commandos, bleed R2 with Pavetta shuffling back and aim for a short R3 with the Commandos and Refnri. You have a spare Leader charge if you use 1 in R1 on the first Commando and then save one for the last R3 Commando (unless that's Roche: Merciless + the Commando he spawns). King Demaveand I think is almost an auto include here since he gives you consistency for your R1 setup and can work on Neutral cards like Renfri later in the game. I think you'd really want him and Triss: Butterflies to improve the consistency, as well as Renfri's Gang. If you're playing Renfri they should really be in the deck since they also help then and play for high tempo without setup which the deck otherwise lacks. Boholt and Shani are nice to have, but I think the consistency is more important than them.
As far as other things, Gaunter O Dimm is pretty much a meme card because his removal is too delayed and Inspired Zeal doesn't work on Neutrals anymore. You'd be much better off with Geralt of Rivia, Geralt: Igni, maybe Eskel Pathfinder for removal. Or you could use those provisions for Donmir of Troy to protect your Foltest setup. Radovid for the extra leader charges might be good too. In Inspired Zeal, I generally prefer cards like Seltkirk or Prince Anseis for removal though because of how well they synergize with the leader charge. Unfortunately, I don't think you have enough leader charges without Radovid if you're using them on Commandos and it would be too hard to fit both otherwise, I'd recommend one of them for removal over a Geralt. Ronvid I wouldn't play unless you're going to combo him with Kaedweni Revenant, but I don't think they fit too well in this deck because of the lack of cards like Reinforced Ballista. The Mentors are probably not worth using if you have the other consistency cards. Some other useful options might be Siege Support as another way to give Zeal
I think I would try something like this if I had to play Renfri Blue Stripes:
Renfri
King Demavend
Roche: Merciless
King Foltest
Donmir of Troy or Geralt/Eskel
Triss: Butterflies
Pavetta
Vissegard
Voymir
Margarita/Dorregaray
Renfri's Gang (2)
Blue Stripes Commando (2)
Siege Support (2)
Blue Stripes Scout (2)
Pellar (1)
Siege Ladder (2)
Siege Tower (2)
Redanian Knight (2)
I would recommend probably playing Blue Stripes without Renfri or playing a different NR deck if you want it to be Renfri though. I don't think they synergize particularly well.
@@platinumpatrol2964 Thanks a lot bro. Didn't expert a reply so long but that was a pleasant surprise. Those tips will be very helpfull. As I said I wanted to make a build that is not so conventional.In fact I didn't even know about not being able to zeal O'Dimm with a leader charge. Nevertheless thanks for the professional advice and by the way I really enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work and have a nice evening. 🤙
@@bubinskyy6276 You can Zeal Gaunter with things like Siege Support, Petri's Philter, and Ves just not the leader. They made it NR exclusive a while ago. Glad to be of help!
@@platinumpatrol2964 Don't mind me asking but would abandoning donmir and one siege ladder for thaler\istredd + sigfried is worth it?
@@bubinskyy6276 Depends on what you're facing. Generally I would say probably not, but if you're not running into much control and still don't have enough consistency you could try it
First player, defender in deathwish deck, would that mean Weaves Incantation I wonder 🤔
Considering there was both Haunt and Dagon I suspect it was for the infinite Dagon loop
How??
@@chrcz8346 In Dagon's evolved form (Risen) his 5th counter spawns a base copy of Dagon: Risen in hand when it dies. If you get enough Dagon: Risens on board via things like Weavess: Incantation, Arachas Queen, Abaya, etc. and you have a Slyzard to consume a unit every turn, you will have a Dagon: Risen adding a copy of itself to your hand each turn as one of them will reach 5 counters and you kill it. Since you're getting a card added to your hand each turn and the Slyzard consumes a unit each turn (there shouldn't be enough bronze Deathwishes for Risen to brick your rows and that effect will stop going off) you can go infinite and play/consume as many Dagons as you want, or your opponent inevitably forfeits.
I believe it's the only infinite combo in the game. I was looking into it to try to find ways to make a 4000-power unit to celebrate getting 4000 subscribers which will hopefully happen soon and it's still the best way to make a giant unit.
Realistically though just making 1 extra Dagon is enough to win most games and he might have just been wanting to do that too.
I need to see it in action so make it happen!
I think another Foglet instead of that Veil & power unit is far more better
bro just put 2nd foglet and 2nd navigator 😭😭😭 you will forget that tyr na lia value when you start playing that usless filler bronse units
It's not so much the Tir Na Lia value as to have more options from Auberon. I really would like to fit the second foglet though.