This game is an excelent example to show begginers how important can the tempos and activity be. In normal chess, a single lost or wasted move can cause catastrophies.
Not really. If a beginner plays as white here, they can intentionally make a first move that would be bad in regular chess but has a good follow-up in monster chess. Being able to move twice kinda overrides being up some tempi.
Triple S as salesman Me: I want to buy a lot of board games, but I don't want to waste money. Triple S: Me: chess is only one game Triple S: sit down, we're going to have a long talk
Idea; Oops, All knights It’s just chess, but every piece moves exactly the same as a knight. The king still cannot move into check, but it moves like a knight. Other than that, every single other piece acts knightlike.
I'm imagining a new variant where one player controls both the white and black pieces, while the other player controls a single red "deity" pawn that just so happens to be able to move anywhere and do anything it wants. The objective of the game for the player controlling black/white is to capture that pawn while the objective for the player controlling the red pawn is to hold your own long and make the other player resign through any means necessary.
Those games certainly deserve attention. But it takes much longer to explain the rules of Monopoly than those of a chess variant if you assume we all know the rules of chess.
You could adjust this to GOTHIC CHESS by giving white 2 or 3 more pawns to compensate for black getting 2 more pawns himself plus archbishop and chancellor when compared to the regular version.
This was the first chess variant I ever played and it inspired me to start making more games. I knew it as monster chess. My friend made a different version we call super king
0:39 What happens when the square that Black King is sitting on is protected by a another piece? Can White King still capture the Black King or it is a illegal capture? 1:22
Hmm... This reminds me of a variant I used to play, but the white pawns were spread out. (I don't remember what it was called.) Black has a significant advantage.
You have to really play really defensively against a superking. The pawns are also annoying, but if you get rid of them, and keep the superking away from your king, then you should be able to defend.
The board itself is a standard fide regulation board. You can get an actual one off the official website for like $70. Otherwise you can get a quality handmade replica off Etsy. I have a board that looks just like this that was handmade in Poland from Etsy.
Hmm. Why the chess piece chips for this one? There have been a few other videos where that has made sense because it required stacking or flipping them over to switch color. But for this particular variant, it seems like you could use a regular chess set.
What does it mean that _“en passant_ applies?” When black does the two-step pawn move, can white address it in his second move? If so, also when the white pawn was moved next to the black pawn in the first step? Or if a white piece (that must have been gained via pawn promotion) moved through the vacant spot? The last one would be something like: …, g7g5, 12. Qh6b6 *_hxg6 e.p._* … When white does the two-step pawn move on the first move, can black take _en passant_ if the same pawn moved again? And what if a white piece (that must have been gained via pawn promotion) moved through or into in the vacant square?
king in this chess can demolish black defense less than 20 move because no matter how you protect a piece the king can just capture and move making checkmate him is hard
Eliminate all while pawns, or get them stuck, then use the queen to protect and guide A pawn and/or H pawn to queening. Make sure the queens protect each other. Bring the rooks out and go for checkmate.
I played a round of this with a friend. We got confused on a certain point. Can the super king take the other King on the second move if it’s defended by another piece? Whether or not that situation is check seems important and isn’t addressed by the rules here or on Wikipedia.
Yes, you can see it this way: the first king captured loses, the state of the board after that is irrelevant, the very moment your king is out of the game, the game is over, even if your king was defended it doesn't matter since your king is already dead.
@@enderspirit5238 counter argument: taking the other King would be illegal, since you're never allowed to make a second move which ends with your King in check. Some folks seem to address this problem by saying that if you can ever put the black kind in check with your first move, you win. That seems to adequately solve the paradox.
@@MoldbugReads I mean you could play by these rules but you're playing a different game. It's the same reason why in normal chess a pinned piece can still give check. Imagine a black knight pinned by a white bishop. If you moved your white king in range of the black knight, your king could be captured by the knight, even if you could immediately recapture the black king the next move with your bishop, it's already too late, the king is dead and the war has already been lost the moment your king was removed from the board.
@@enderspirit5238 That really doesn't make it a different game. It's just a workaround to a situation that seems paradoxical Why doesn't it change the game? The same exact results happen with that rule and how you say it works. If my first move checks the King, in your version, you'd take it with your second move. In that version, you just win after the first move. Same game.
@@MoldbugReads Oh yeah my bad, I read too quickly, it is indeed the same game, we were explaining the same thing from two angles, both explanations are valid ^^
This variant feels easily solved. Black just pushes his two unstoppable edge pawns; the white king cannot stop both from promoting. With two queens and two (now able to move) rooks, checkmating the white king is unavoidable. Whereas if black does NOT do this (or doesn't do it fast enough), white's king is effectively an unstoppable monster. White's pawns are really there just for show; they're negligible in the actual game, because black should always play on the sides of the board, and the pawns are very easy to keep at bay or 1f1.
I dare someone $1,000,000 that they can't find a position where Black is not in checkmate and White has a queen and is not in check. Edit: just found one I owe myself $1,000,000
Played with my mum and reached a situation where there was cause for debate. There were a fair few pieces left on the board for black (me) but only the white king. She managed to shuffle into a spot which would be checkmate by the white king. However this would take two moves, and the second would place the white king (now on E8) in check to my rook on A8. She argued that this is allowed because she takes my king, and therefore the game is won in white favour. My argument was that the king cannot put itself into check, even if to take the enemy king. Now that I think about it, I suppose she would be right in that in a normal game, black could not move a absolutely pinned piece to put the white king in check, as their king would be taken on the next turn. Anyone know if there’s an official answer to this?
Imagine an endgame like this: White has a king on e5 and a bishop on b5. Black has a king on e8 and a pawn on d7. Pawn is absolutely pinned to the king by white bishop. It's white to move. Could you move your king to e6 (in check) because if the pawn moved it would cause the black king to be under check therefore dxe6 is not possible? Or Ke6 is impossible in the position because white loses their king BEFORE black loses their king? I do not know if it's official or not, that's just my logic, hope that makes sense.
White can move into check, so long as their second move would bring them out of check. So the white king could move up one, but it can't then take black's pawn, because the black king would check the white king. As for OP's situation with their mother, I think the issue was, OP's king was in check when they ended their turn. Otherwise, there's no way OP's mom could have taken OP's king in two turns. So OP made an illegal move.
But you can't cupture if you end up checked yourself in regualr chess. Does this rule not apply in here or is it that this 2 move checkmate overrides it? Cause it sounds like a great game, but I don't want to miss on a detail if I already did so!
@@BluMacaw The regular chess analogous would be using a piece pinned to your king as part of a checkmate: the threat from this piece cannot be disregarded even if actually capturing the opposing king would expose your own.
Now thinking about it, in this variant, a white queen or rook could checkmate without assistance. Center of the enemy king, single piece threatens a file of each side, black king cannot escape.
So I tried playing this with my friends. I also tried playing it as white without any pawns at all. It's basically impossible for black to checkmate at all
Seems like black easily wins this variant. Develop all your pieces quickly and sac them for pawns. White should only be able to win if black plays too slowly.
I actually learned this as "ninja chess" with it being BLACK who gets only four pawns and a king, with double moves. Giving white the first move AND the double move advantage i feel changes the balance too much.
This is so cool, it's like you're playing an RPG as a band of heroes vs an entire Kingdom to take down.
More like a town trying to kill a werewolf. The White King can ABSOLITLY REAK HAVOKE on so many stratagies when they in the back lines
Dynasty Warriors Chess!
@@EdKolis Don't pursue Lu-Bu!
I mostly think of this as One Man Army Chess, but I get the point
@@EdKolis one of my favorite game in the past
I don't want to imagine how a white queen breaks the game
When your carry finally finishes farming.
Probably checkmate as soon as you promote lol
Funfact
Queen is not broken
3 peices > queen (1 piece = 1 knight or bishop)
2 rooks > queen
@@namelessunnamed6544 But a white queen that can move 2 consecutive moves per black's 1 move? Wouldn't that be broken?
@@Sid37612 i m talking about standard chess
This game is an excelent example to show begginers how important can the tempos and activity be. In normal chess, a single lost or wasted move can cause catastrophies.
Not really. If a beginner plays as white here, they can intentionally make a first move that would be bad in regular chess but has a good follow-up in monster chess. Being able to move twice kinda overrides being up some tempi.
Raid boss chess? This sounds fun.
- Bongcloud is the best opening
- En passant is allowed
- OP king can make opponent pipi
yeah, this is definitely the best chess mod
And this one of the best comment
This was the funniest use of the word "pipi" i seen
@@randomlol-ya3063 Google r/anarchychess
This is the perfect kind of entertaining and instructive video I love to have on for no reason while chilling. Liked and subbed, can't wait for more
Awesome, thank you! I really appreciate it!
I think this is my favorite variant. Its easy to understand and pick up, but still has a ton of strategy.
Triple S as salesman
Me: I want to buy a lot of board games, but I don't want to waste money.
Triple S:
Me: chess is only one game
Triple S: sit down, we're going to have a long talk
Lololol love it
*deep inhale*
*names every one of the 400-something uno varieties and ways to play*
*slaps roof of car* this bad boy can fit so many [games] in it
Idea; Oops, All knights
It’s just chess, but every piece moves exactly the same as a knight. The king still cannot move into check, but it moves like a knight. Other than that, every single other piece acts knightlike.
Trip
0:28 hikaru: finally, a worthy bongcloud. our battle will be legendary!!
Then
Ba is Baba
The modding community is getting insane.
@HTD Roblox 🇹🇭 What if we merge chess with Rubik's cube?
@HTD Roblox 🇹🇭 Link, please.
@HTD Roblox 🇹🇭 I ended finding by my own, but thanks anyway.
Yea
wow, chess is getting secret updates and Chess fans are still mad about waiting for "updates" lol
well those are not official updates but just mods made by the community...
@@AlsandoGames really? I thought it was late dlc
These are chess minigames. The official rules do not need to change.
@@AlsandoGames i know that, i was making a joke.
@@danielyuan9862 do people NOT know what a joke is
I'm imagining a new variant where one player controls both the white and black pieces, while the other player controls a single red "deity" pawn that just so happens to be able to move anywhere and do anything it wants. The objective of the game for the player controlling black/white is to capture that pawn while the objective for the player controlling the red pawn is to hold your own long and make the other player resign through any means necessary.
my dad thought that this "gamemode" is unfair towards the one with only five pieces, but i ended up winning
Yeah, making 2 moves at one time really helps.
It's rather like the Maharajah game: it is probably a theoretical win for White but difficult in practice
Because the queen in the corner has full board range. If you get a queen and place it in a corner, you auto-win.
@@hy7864No, it's not. Maharajah chess is a forced win for Black.
I love the content, would love to see content covering more obscure tabletop games over variations of classics though.
Those games certainly deserve attention. But it takes much longer to explain the rules of Monopoly than those of a chess variant if you assume we all know the rules of chess.
I think it's better in these variants to capture the king instead of checkmate.
I wondered what this was called, and I've never really been confident I understood the rules. Thanks for sharing!
A whole chess variant named after me? I'm honored.
It also seems really cool!
There’s a difference chess variation that fits your name even better, because the king can be the most powerful piece
@@TaiStar42 Yo nice! What is it called?
@@superking100 we call it super king. I haven’t seen it anywhere else. I think I have to make a video for it.
@@TaiStar42 lmk when you do!
You could adjust this to GOTHIC CHESS by giving white 2 or 3 more pawns to compensate for black getting 2 more pawns himself plus archbishop and chancellor when compared to the regular version.
This was the first chess variant I ever played and it inspired me to start making more games. I knew it as monster chess. My friend made a different version we call super king
0:39 What happens when the square that Black King is sitting on is protected by a another piece? Can White King still capture the Black King or it is a illegal capture? 1:22
Pleeease do one for 5d chess with multiverse time travel, I saw that game once and I reeeally wanna know how to play
Does en passant work if white moves a pawn for 2 on first move and another piece 2nd move? And if the same pawn is moved 3 spaces?
Yes
Is there anywhere to play this online or vs computer?
Maybe I’m not sure
On Green Chess
@@qwq1017 thanks
could you avoid En Passant by doing 2 1-Space pawn moves instead of 1 2-Space pawn move?
What if en passant was possible on any of white's pieces if that piece moves twice in one turn
Hmm... This reminds me of a variant I used to play, but the white pawns were spread out. (I don't remember what it was called.) Black has a significant advantage.
this kinda makes the king too OP, i played it with my dad and no matter whos team you were on, superking always won
You have to really play really defensively against a superking. The pawns are also annoying, but if you get rid of them, and keep the superking away from your king, then you should be able to defend.
I thought super king meant the king would be like the queen except he could also knights move
Hey, nice chess board. Where did you get it?
The board itself is a standard fide regulation board. You can get an actual one off the official website for like $70. Otherwise you can get a quality handmade replica off Etsy. I have a board that looks just like this that was handmade in Poland from Etsy.
Check description
This is an awesome idea.
Hmm. Why the chess piece chips for this one? There have been a few other videos where that has made sense because it required stacking or flipping them over to switch color. But for this particular variant, it seems like you could use a regular chess set.
That's because it's way easier to tell the difference between the pieces from that perspective.
Correct
I can't imagine how the white's queen will go absolutely mad as she will do her move twice(!)
Black basically needs to give his king cover at all times in that situation, cause the queen can go practically anywhere on the board in two moves.
What does it mean that _“en passant_ applies?”
When black does the two-step pawn move, can white address it in his second move? If so, also when the white pawn was moved next to the black pawn in the first step? Or if a white piece (that must have been gained via pawn promotion) moved through the vacant spot? The last one would be something like: …, g7g5, 12. Qh6b6 *_hxg6 e.p._* …
When white does the two-step pawn move on the first move, can black take _en passant_ if the same pawn moved again? And what if a white piece (that must have been gained via pawn promotion) moved through or into in the vacant square?
Can black castle?
I was thinking the king was gonna be like a mini queen or something, kinda like it was shotgun king but no shotgun and 4 pawns.
This reminds me of the "Two Kings" army in Chess 2.
king in this chess can demolish black defense less than 20 move because no matter how you protect a piece the king can just capture and move making checkmate him is hard
nice video! where did you get those pieces?
I had them custom made because I wanted something easier to film with.
@@TripleSGames thanks
How the heck would you checkmate white? Like there's a rush to do it right away before losing too many pieces.
Eliminate all while pawns, or get them stuck, then use the queen to protect and guide A pawn and/or H pawn to queening. Make sure the queens protect each other. Bring the rooks out and go for checkmate.
I’ll have to try this one
Chess: the "Don't Pursue Lü Bu" version.
I played a round of this with a friend. We got confused on a certain point. Can the super king take the other King on the second move if it’s defended by another piece? Whether or not that situation is check seems important and isn’t addressed by the rules here or on Wikipedia.
Yes, you can see it this way: the first king captured loses, the state of the board after that is irrelevant, the very moment your king is out of the game, the game is over, even if your king was defended it doesn't matter since your king is already dead.
@@enderspirit5238 counter argument: taking the other King would be illegal, since you're never allowed to make a second move which ends with your King in check.
Some folks seem to address this problem by saying that if you can ever put the black kind in check with your first move, you win. That seems to adequately solve the paradox.
@@MoldbugReads I mean you could play by these rules but you're playing a different game.
It's the same reason why in normal chess a pinned piece can still give check. Imagine a black knight pinned by a white bishop. If you moved your white king in range of the black knight, your king could be captured by the knight, even if you could immediately recapture the black king the next move with your bishop, it's already too late, the king is dead and the war has already been lost the moment your king was removed from the board.
@@enderspirit5238 That really doesn't make it a different game. It's just a workaround to a situation that seems paradoxical
Why doesn't it change the game? The same exact results happen with that rule and how you say it works. If my first move checks the King, in your version, you'd take it with your second move. In that version, you just win after the first move. Same game.
@@MoldbugReads Oh yeah my bad, I read too quickly, it is indeed the same game, we were explaining the same thing from two angles, both explanations are valid ^^
(Wow 5min ago) i really like the channel, keep up the good work
Can I also do it with black?
Can a white pawn escape _en passant_ by using its two moves to take one step at a time?
I never played it so I may be really wrong.... but doesn't black have an insane advantage if played correctly?
This variant feels easily solved. Black just pushes his two unstoppable edge pawns; the white king cannot stop both from promoting. With two queens and two (now able to move) rooks, checkmating the white king is unavoidable.
Whereas if black does NOT do this (or doesn't do it fast enough), white's king is effectively an unstoppable monster. White's pawns are really there just for show; they're negligible in the actual game, because black should always play on the sides of the board, and the pawns are very easy to keep at bay or 1f1.
I dare someone $1,000,000 that they can't find a position where Black is not in checkmate and White has a queen and is not in check.
Edit: just found one I owe myself $1,000,000
Are you planing to make videos about Thud - Discworld version of chess?
Black king is in check if white's next first move can result in a check.
Which side is more likely to win? White or Black?
White
Played with my mum and reached a situation where there was cause for debate. There were a fair few pieces left on the board for black (me) but only the white king. She managed to shuffle into a spot which would be checkmate by the white king. However this would take two moves, and the second would place the white king (now on E8) in check to my rook on A8. She argued that this is allowed because she takes my king, and therefore the game is won in white favour. My argument was that the king cannot put itself into check, even if to take the enemy king. Now that I think about it, I suppose she would be right in that in a normal game, black could not move a absolutely pinned piece to put the white king in check, as their king would be taken on the next turn. Anyone know if there’s an official answer to this?
Imagine an endgame like this: White has a king on e5 and a bishop on b5. Black has a king on e8 and a pawn on d7. Pawn is absolutely pinned to the king by white bishop. It's white to move. Could you move your king to e6 (in check) because if the pawn moved it would cause the black king to be under check therefore dxe6 is not possible? Or Ke6 is impossible in the position because white loses their king BEFORE black loses their king? I do not know if it's official or not, that's just my logic, hope that makes sense.
If white could capture the black king in two moves, then that means the black king was already in check. So its position was illegal to begin with.
White can move into check, so long as their second move would bring them out of check. So the white king could move up one, but it can't then take black's pawn, because the black king would check the white king.
As for OP's situation with their mother, I think the issue was, OP's king was in check when they ended their turn. Otherwise, there's no way OP's mom could have taken OP's king in two turns. So OP made an illegal move.
The video shows this exact scenario at 1:23. The king can put himself into check in an in-between move.
@@ianchandler7188 i think he said that white's king could capture black's king BUT also put himself into check on its second move
So do the promoted white pieces still get to do 2 moves?
yes
hey can tell us how to play jig-saw's pain-to-win game?
So it's Juggernaut Mode/Story Campaign, depending on who you play as.
1:22 And yet white can't cupture black's king because it would be attacked by a G1 Knight. Just a tiny oversight.
The game would end with the capture of blacks king making that move impossible
But you can't cupture if you end up checked yourself in regualr chess. Does this rule not apply in here or is it that this 2 move checkmate overrides it? Cause it sounds like a great game, but I don't want to miss on a detail if I already did so!
@@BluMacaw You can move as long as king is alive.
@@BluMacaw The regular chess analogous would be using a piece pinned to your king as part of a checkmate: the threat from this piece cannot be disregarded even if actually capturing the opposing king would expose your own.
Are you allowed to castle in this game?
This video has been uploaded ‘50 minutes’ ago about three times today
You’re allowed to leave them up, y’know!
Lololol thanks
Wow, you really reuploaded it😂
best chess version no doubt about it
not gonna wonder about a white rook
That's intense!
Now thinking about it, in this variant, a white queen or rook could checkmate without assistance. Center of the enemy king, single piece threatens a file of each side, black king cannot escape.
Who has an advantage at the beginning
White king on a corner with a queen vs a lone black king is instant checkmate.
From where do you get these pieces?
If I remeber correctly, he makes them himself.
Check description.
Yo that looks fun ima try it
So I tried playing this with my friends. I also tried playing it as white without any pawns at all. It's basically impossible for black to checkmate at all
reupload?
Yeah, I had a mistake that I needed to fix... Sorry.
@@TripleSGames glad to see you care so much about your content :)
@@ashmitsingh6995 They made a mistake where checkmate wasnt actually checkmate (at 1:28 there were more pieces)
White : new player with good internet
Black : old player with bad internet
All right, who gave white the Time Warp Facilitator from MOO2?
Draw your checkswords, we've got a super king to slay!
I thought it would just be the king can move 2 spaces
Well he can
Which chessboard and pieces are these??
The pieces are custom made because I wanted something easier to film with.
@@TripleSGames they look really good!!
*7 nation army plays while the white king obliterates all of black's pieces*
Wait it's a re upload?
Ikr
Yes sorry I made a mistake and needed to fix it
@@TripleSGames dont worry your the most honest creator I've seen in ages
Boss fight chess i like it!
Could you make a monopoly crooked cash how to play?
I'll look into it
@@TripleSGames Thank you so much!
Ok but can white still castle?
Seems like black easily wins this variant. Develop all your pieces quickly and sac them for pawns. White should only be able to win if black plays too slowly.
So yust white has less pieces and has two turns
The king can literally solo checkmate the opponent
What? A Game where the King is useful even before the Endgame? What sorcery is this?
But what happens if you capture the opponent’s king?
I've heard that the white king here is already equal to 15 points of material, the white queen would be worth like 100 probably
Aight gonna sacrifice king to protect the queen
It's like White is 🦸♂️🦸♀️🦸♂️🦸♀️🦸♂️🦸♀️🦸♂️🦸♀️🦸♂️🦸♀️🦸♂️🦸♀️ and Black is weak but find the pattern in the emojis.
1:24 knight is protecting king
yeah but the king is gonna be captured anyway so whats the point really
White king will get captured
why black only go 1 step but white it 2
this is actually kinda creative, I wonder who made this mod. probably not me :(
Are you a chess modder?
@@defensivekobra3873 I made one but haven't submitted it online because I'm pretty shy about it because I invented it at 4th grade
@@honeyjuice219 what was the mod about?
@@azucenamoranfente3307 It's basically where all the pawns are in two lanes, that's the gimmick but I won't go on detail on the other rules
Is this fair?
Would you be interested in showcasing a game every video?
I actually learned this as "ninja chess" with it being BLACK who gets only four pawns and a king, with double moves. Giving white the first move AND the double move advantage i feel changes the balance too much.
Imagine the white is successfully promotes to queen and apply 2 move to snipe the king from afar...
XD
Hello Jim I have 30 seconds how to paly
Monster chess but the 4 white pawns are queens would be game over.
how to win as white: step 1: have a pawn reach the end of the board
step 2: promote to a queen
step 3: u win gg
If a white pawn gets permotted, it just exeeds god mode
monster
chees :have more upedates
tf2 : XD
The first chess I was ever taught
Made In Heaven Chess
Someone run the numbers on which player has the advantage here