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Watch This Before Buying / Using a Hammock - Pros and Cons
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ส.ค. 2024
- This episode is all about Hammocks and Luke will be going over the Pros, the Cons, When, Where and Why to use them...also, when not to.
Many know that I primarily used hammocks for over 10 years and while my preference has shifted over to tents now, I have much to share concerning them including the fact that they are prohibited in many areas.
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I'm a hammock guy. I would say that the upper end of hammock technology has become comparable in weight to a new high end free standing tent. A single wall trekking pole tent will always be the lightest. In the rocky trails of PA the hammock is a real benefit due to fewer flat spots. After using an under quilt with my hammock I will never go back. Using pads or mats in a hammock changes the whole dynamic and is much less comfortable. My 30 degree synthetic top and under quilt together weigh about the same as my older synthetic 30 degree bag. With hammocks you have suspension and with tents you need a pad. Good comfortable pads can be heavier than a good suspension system, and way more expensive. I'd say a tarp is comparable to the fly on the tent. It does take more skill to set up a hammock but the comfort is far better. My ridge line pockets handle all my devices and pocket gear just fine, including a water bottle. With a trekking pole holding up one corner of the tarp the visibility is better than a tent. I get a panorama from the lifted side. Condensation is NEVER a problem unless you put a non-breathable mat under you. I will say that cooking from a hammock is sketchy. You have to hang out and set your stove in arms reach away from your quilt. One area a tent usually wins is privacy. Hard to change your clothes out of sight standing under your tarp. All in all, the proper use of a hammock offers those of us in the eastern woods who will invest time and money into the proper setup will find it the most comfortable way to sleep in the woods. You western desert folks stick to the tent.
That privacy issue is my one drawback to using a hammock. Usually I set up a second tarp dropped low on one side next to my hammock so that I have somewhere more private to change, as usually I'm camping as part of a youth Scouting group as a Leader. Privacy to change is essential in that case - if I'm just out with friends in the woods then adult changeroom etiquette is fine, just don't stare at each other while changing.
I agree
Also a PA hiker and I agree with your points. I’ve gotten really good at changing in a hammock tho. Given the choice, I’m hanging in my hammock.
I usually don't worry about privacy in the backcountry (campgrounds are another matter).
I don't have anything worth hiding, and I don't force anyone to watch.
If there are several people, I'll let them know they can "avert their eyes" before I change.
Use a poncho and you can change under it.
I like hammock camping also during rainy seasons. In a rain the hammock is off the ground is less likely to get muddy and dirty. Also in a rain I can pitch the roof such that I can sit on my hammock and watch the rain, instead of strained in the tent.
this is after bringing a heavy weight backpack and finding a perfect spot ... so this comment is insufficient and far from reality
Hammock camping is so lightweight and easy to setup at any time,I carry mine and a 5x7 nylon rain fly everywhere so I can take random camp naps😎
@@imaginewhirledpeas6696 lightweight in summer maybe, but the same problem.. is easy to setup AFTER having found those 2 perfect trees and you can't pack 2 trees in your backpack
@@GonzaloToro7 my hammock has a waterproof second fabric, allowing me to use it on the ground as well. With 2 trekking poles or sticks, i can basically make it into a bivy/tent without trees.
This combo allows me to setup in nearly any terrain a tent can and cannot. And for the space I have, there aren’t any tents near the same weight or budget.
My problem with lightweight tents is that they are always to small.
@@GonzaloToro7 Where I live, (within a 6 hr drive radius) there are an abundance of hammock camping spots, and a deficit of flat spots for tent camping. Also my hammock with a tarp weighs just over 2 lbs, yet is very comfortable
Here in the backwoods of Northern Europe where I live, it´s just pine forests and lakes. Nothing better than setting up a hammock with a view on the lake. No condensation, no crawling on the ground. I´ve never considered hammock camping to be any kind of magic solution. Just a different way of camping.
Pine needles on the ground make for a very comfortable surface to sleep on....
@@wio2189 If there's a flat spot right next to the lake yes....
Bridge hammocks is a growing option. Privacy issue get a tarp with doors. Shug brews his coffee from his hammock. That said I cook away from my sleep shelter for safety.
Whoooooo buddy!
This is how I roll and I am section hiking the AT.
"Whoooo buddy",love watching Shug!!And he's amazing at juggling!!
I have found that here in South Carolina I can use my hammock all year round and find that I get a better nights rest than my bed. But like you said only if you set it up right which does take practice. For me sleeping on the ground does not work any more. This was another great video Luke.
Does it help you sleep cooler in the summer?
@@1eyedjacksRwild hammocks are amazing in summer as the breeze / air will ventilate you from underneath - so if you unzip your sleeping bag to make it a quilt then you have lots of temperature control in summer
Another argument for a hammock over a ground tent in the South is fire ants.
In Australia in summer they are great also very popular in se Asian countries
Hiyas Luke , couple points , I use to take just a tarp and make my bed in the mountains like injuns . Very cool and almost invisible to all. Then a war bonnet traveler and a tarp . Then a cot and a tarp. The key for me and how I was raised is visibility . In a tent you have 0% visibility and you're trapped. ,easy pickings . And you need a pad , a sleeping bag ,etc etc Most versatile is still making your bed ,wool blanket ""real one""" and a good tarp. My tarp has 23 tie off's so I can go freaky Getting off the ground is the key. The ground will suck the life out of you. Tent would be my last choice every time. Now in my older years I use a cot 100% , a teton pad , and a teton xxl bag 0* degree , a flat sheet , and a wool blanket just in case ,and a tarp .10x12 . Bring it on. And I can see everything all the time. And I'm warm and comfortable Rain you say ,just lower the tarp idjut. Peace.
I prefer the hammock because I get the best sleep in my hammock, I had no idea bottom entry hammocks existed, I've camped all over North Carolina and I would say I love my hammock. Both tents and hammocks have their good and bad points. I love sitting in my hammock in the rain, it's almost like therapy. I am also strange when it comes to camping. The worse the weather, the more I enjoy it. Thanks for the awesome videos Luke.
Hammock hands down more comfortable for me. Another pro, you pack up faster, no damp / wet floor to dry out like a tent.
No snakes👍
@@joesmith4222 yes, I was curious how many insects you could end up avoiding. You could even spray peppermint oil around the tie off points on the tree.
@@bdmenne might keep the snakes out too. Two of us were anchored in the middle of a lake fishing, and a rattlesnake crawled up the anchor rope into the boat. We beat it with our poles and killed the snake and our poles.
@@joesmith4222 fn wow!
Nice video Luke. Unless I missed them, I wanted to add a couple things. With hammocks, you always have a nice comfortable place to sit or lounge. For me, that can’t be overstated. I’m not a 20 mile a day sort of guy, I like to get to camp and enjoy it there. So having a comfortable place to relax is important. And there’s nothing better than waiting for the rain to stop as when you’re in a hammock. You also feel much less trapped and less stuffy.
I am a hammock lover, I do have many tents, but I do like to sleep in a hammock over a tent. plus I find that I carry less to hammock camp then to tent camp.
As a backcountry mountain hunter, side entry hammocks all the way. I was a convert after having to hike at least a mile further on a ridgeback then I wanted to, just to find a decent place to pitch a tent. Hammocks require a bit more skill/knowledge then a tent, but it's totally worth it. I routinely hammock camp all summer, up until late Sept,or early Oct, at around 8,000 to 9,000 ft elevation. I sleep almost as well in a hammock as I do my bed at home, no condensation, no bugs, BUT...you have to do it right. Do it right, its awesome. Do it wrong, and it sucks.
Side notes
- Have an electronics bag. Shove your phone and charger in that, sleep with it inside your bag.
- Klymit makes an inflatable glassing pad. Also works great as a "door mat" when getting into your hammock and kicking off your boots.
- always use some kind of inslation layer in the hammock, otherwise you'll be cooling there from convection like a piece of meat.
- Tarp is great to cook under while it's raining. Also keeps your gear dry. AND it provides shade. Combine ready made shade with the open air of a hammock, and your rarely sweltering during the summer.
- Leave your pack under your hammock. Makes a great "night stand" to put objects on you want to keep within reach, but not inside the hammock due to sharp edges.
- 9 ft hammock works best for finding a camp location, Those real nice 10-11 footers I think would be harder to find a site to camp on.
- Dry sack with your extra socks/layers, put that under your knees or upper thighs at night. Alleviates or solves any hyper extending on your knees. Also makes it easier to change your socks.
I could go on, but I've seriously grown to love hammock camping. I can camp on the side of a steep slope in some aspins or pines, and sometimes glass for elk or deer at or near where I camp. Saves me a ton of energy and time.
Thanks a lot posting such a thorough and concise comment. All great points!
Hammock all the way just started last year like you said tents have there place but 95% of the time I'm in my hammock with a 3X3 DD tarp talking about DD hammocks they have a 2n1 hammock/ground bivy its pretty cool also warbonnet hammock are awesome as well as dream hammocks if you like total customization all great options
I've a Warbonnet Ridgerunner and I am quite content using it. It does have more parts and was more costly, but it does work for me in Pennsylvania.
I use hammock occasionally. I live in the alps and most of the time I sleep in a bivvi above the treeline. In the winter, in lower altitudes I like my hammock/underquilt setup in a forrest.
I'm a hammock guy ever since I tried my first Hennessey birth-canal. Now I use a side entry with a OneTigris UQ and my mummy bag as a TQ. Tents have their uses, but I sleep much better suspended than on a mat.
I use a hammock full time at home So comfy. My favorite thing camping is breakfast from the hammock. I do use a tent quite often too. But it is easier and lighter to keep my pup warm when I use a hammock. Although, sleeping with a 40 pound dog laying across your bladder is not for everyone :). It is easier to set up and take down my hammock when it is raining, and I can enjoy the rain instead of worrying about a tent flooding. My main forest type where I hike is spruces, which makes for decent hanging. I can also DIY a hammock and tarp on the cheap. I do agree that one has to consider the terrain and having decent trees available. I have never used a bottom entry hammock; that does seem weird to me.
Awesome info! Just started with hammocks this year. Don't ever see me going back to a tent. Got a DD Frontline XL with the 4x4 tarp. Love it. Probably add a sparrow or chameleon next year. Variety never hurts. 😁
That's my same set up! I just added the DD 3x3 to my camping items so I have an option as to how much tarp cover I need to carry with me. I am also considering adding an 11 ft. hammock to the mix or possibly the DD Frontline XL hammock.
Use the XL for many years already on many expeditions. Bumbproof and reliable
Anyone use Dutch gear Hammocks? I was looking at their 11 footer with Annette and side entry. I have the DD extra large ultralight tarp and love it
It is in all ways and at all times about the right tool for the right job.
Tents are useful in many situations.
Hammocks, in many others.
For backcountry woodland adventures I prefer hammocks!
I've been rocking a hammocks for 50 years and they beat tents in most cases. I have never had a problem finding a place to hang, unless above the tree line. Cold weather hammomocking is the best.
Have always loved tents and have only recently started using a hammock. Much better physical recovery for me when using a hammock and a greater feeling of connection to the surrounding bush.
I’m in my late 50s and my old sports injuries sometimes make tent camping quite painful after a long hike. Anyone else experience the joy of being hit by severe cramps simply bending down to crawl into the tent?? I actually do a fair amount of stretching now before getting ready for sleep when I’m using a tent just to minimise the unexpected screaming.
Knees never have to bend too far past 90 degrees when getting into and out of a hammock. Have not had cramps nor been forced to hobble around for the first 15mins in the morning. And the early morning bladder relief process is so much more convenient in a hammock!
I'm usually on board with most of your opinions Luke but we take different paths here. You said its more difficult to find suitable places for a hammock over a tent. My hiking buddy uses a tent. I use a hammock. Its much much much harder to find a suitable place for a tent. Tents require level terrain. Hammocks just need trees within your length of tree straps. I hike the Appalachian trail often (in the Virginia, Maryland, and Pennsylvania area). Its a 50/50 split between hammocks and tents in my experience. I recently did a video/hike to McAffees Knob. There were way more hammocks than tents. Storage definitely is better in a tent. I agree, circumstances are everything. I will say in my experience, I sleep better in a hammock. Thats going to be a individualized thing. I will say for those backpacking, I can easily save a lot of weight by using a hammock. I appreciate your video and always respect your opinion. I was just a little surprised here. Thanks man
I prefer the hammock because there is nowhere near me that is flat. I live in the north Pennines though so I’m probably an edge case
No where near me that has trees...
Big single skin bivvy with large bug mesh. I've never used the stakes for mine and sometimes don't use the pole.. 'big Agnes three wire bivvy' is awesome.
Hammoch, side entry. I have the Warbonnet XLC with the top cover, underquilt protector zipped together as a cocoon. Also have the wookie underquilt. Sleeps great! Cover with superfly or my smokehouse mini hot tent. Great four season setup.
On trails I have been in Pennsylvania I have seen more hammocks in recent years not less. Properly set up hammocks will be more comfortable than a tent for most people. Using an under quilt instead of a pad makes a big improvement but I used pads in hammocks for several years and that still was way better than in a tent. Check out Shug's channel for expert hammock information.
Luke, I am a hammock guy. love them!! I have several tents as well as many hammocks. I am not opposed to a tent or tarp shelters, but generally very stiff by morning. Have several different strap systems as well as a couple of home made suspension systems. tarp configurations allow for many set ups. I don't back pack any more so the weight issue is moot.
I've been hammock camping since the 90's - before any commercial solution existed. I have always found a hammock to be more versatile in back country conditions. Trail people should stick to tents.
Until your backcountry has no trees. Or it’s cold. Or you don’t want to carry the weight of a hammock.
Off topic, back country and trail, what's the difference?
@@willek1335 Backcountry in my view doesnt have campsites. No flat ground. Likely nobody ever camped there before. And if they did, you would never know it. I find tents very limited in these environments.
@@EricKammerzelt That's a fair definition.
The line between them seems somewhat fluid and less distinct here in Norway than I presume is the case in US. From my experience, you never feel like you're in a theme park here. Most of the minimalistic trail infrastructure is almost invisible in Norway.
I don't know why, but some of the more popular US trails or outdoor landmarks I've been to fascinated me. There's a trail, and you don't walk outside it. That's so bizarre to my culture. On the other hand, I get why US is like that.
@@01superduty89 my hammock with it's stuffsack ,two 500lb suspension straps, two carribeaners,and 5' × 7' rain fly with Paracord for a Ridgeline ...all that literally weights no more than maybe 2 pounds and takes no space at all..I could fit it all in a hooded sweatshirt front pocket...you must be thinking of a rope hammock with the metal freestanding frame?
I started hammock camping few years ago due to a friend mentioning it. I started in a cheap Amazon ENO style hammock. This worked well for a couple years but after a few nights in a row, I found that I wasn't comfortable. After much research I decided on a Dreamhammock Sparrow. This thing is so comfortable I actually sleep better in it then I do my own bed. Great information as normal OGR!!
Hammock all the way, side entry Dutchware Warbonnet DD Hammocks love them all
The nice thing about hammocks is that you can pick on inclines, on wet ground like close to streams, etc. Tarps will change the dynamics of your hammock, I have a 4 season "tent" tarp that is huge and can enclosed your hammock giving you plenty of privacy.
Thank you Luke for all the great videos. Please keep them coming.
I will say the application will determine what is the best use of either a Hammock or a Tent. For 99% I use various tents. However when I venture to the Brazilian Amazon it’s 100% Hammock. Everything in the jungle seems to want to eat or bite you. And the rain makes the ground a swamp. Here in TX it’s a heat management issue. If you summer camp the ground retains heat and will bake you in most tents. So in the rare event that I summer camp here a Hammock can offer some degree of comfort although it’s definitely a trade off. I use a ShiftPod tent here as it can shield from our intense Sun. And I have both a large canvas Bell tent and a small canvas dome tent for 4 season backcountry. And an ultralight MH non freestanding tent for long hikes. Thanks again for your awesome channel!!
Paul Barrett. I have used Hammocks for 20 years, from Ray Mears eco system, Hennessy birth canal, ENO double hammocks, DD hammocks and love them all, I have herniated discs in my back with nerve impingement so getting down on the floor is difficult but a hammock and a flat lay I get a great sleep every time, I do use an under quilt and a UGQ. top quilt. Good video, take care.
I prefer hammocks, because I sleep better in a hammock. I am a side sleeper, and by the time I get a pad thick enough to be comfortable for me, it is too heavy for backpacking. If the overnight temps will be below freezing -- then a 4 season tent is my preference.
I like hammocks and tarps in light to medium rain -- it is trivial to put up the tarp first in all cases. That gives me a large dry space to finish the setup. Fly first is possible with some tent designs -- but not all. Depending on the forecast, I can bring a tarp large enough to reach the ground on all sides - or go with a smaller tarp.
Tarps do offer slightly less privacy than a tent. But, I also like being able to stand up when changing clothing. I have never been good at changing clothes laying down. I also like being able to have a "porch mode" and sit in the hammock and enjoy the view. A hammock gives me a bonus "chair" when backpacking.
While it is possible to have a lighter setup with a tent, I am generally not willing to spend the $$$ on a lightweight tent to make that happen. In the $500 (ish) "all in" price for a shelter & sleeping system, the weights of hammock setups and tent setups tend to be very similar. Also, it is common for the lighter weight tents to require trekking poles or other "non included" hardware to setup. The "as ready for bed" setup weight is often higher than what is commonly quoted.
Tents do to scale better when you start adding people. A hammock setup is limited to single occupancy. It is straight forward to get two or three people into a tent -- and often possible to split the weight of the tent between people -- body, fly & foot print, poles & stakes. If you have 6 to 8 people in your group, finding a backcountry site with enough good hang points can be tricky.
47 years as a, ground dweller, for me it's a side entry hammock. I use the DD frontline and DD nest hammocks at the moment, preferred hammock is the frontline. Ground dwelling for me now is too hard on the joints, but in the hammock, most of those pressure points are less affected. During dry weather, the ability to look through the bug net at the tops of the trees and around me are the reason I had to try it out. The nest hammock, it's OK i guess if draughts are a bit of an issue, with a bug net window each side. For me it depends on the weather, as to which I choose to take out with me
Definitely prefer a hammock, and side zip. I cook from my hammock using my stove all the time. One of my favorite things in the world is breakfast from the hammock. For your small items, put a small bag on your ridgeline or hanging on side of hammock. I use my hammock from warm summer temps all the way down to -40f. It's not any more difficult staying warm in a hammock than it is in a tent. You need a well insulated pad or an underquilt, same as you need that same pad in a tent. I only use a tent if going above treeline or somewhere where there arn't trees. I even bring tensa solos with me to hang without trees in areas where that is an issue.
I have no need for hammocks in my desert camping but I love hearing and learning about all stuff you teach. In the desert it's not that there are no trees, but it's common to have winds at day or night to 30-45 mph. I prefer to be in a good staked down tent with earplugs when wind can make enough noise to keep me awake. Also I would not wa mb t to be tossed and turned In a hammock in those conditions. Desert camping , if primitive should be tent only. I've had great experiences tent camping in desert with high winds. Be aware high winds in desert in ca, can wake you up from tent rattling and make you think there is an earthquake. Also high winds In desert at night if you wake up can make weird noises that sound like creatures are roaming around by tent at night. It gets creepy but I love extreme weather and mild weather desert camping when 37 to 72 degrees. Hope my Info helps someone.
I have camped *_exclusively_* for 18 years. Started with a bottom-entry Hennessy from REI. They had no competition. I wore it out. Literally the velcro on the bottom quit holding. Then I got a Warbonnet Blackbird. That has been my go-to ever since. The only time I have camped and not used my Warbonnet since getting it was desert camping in Coconino NF, and the Secret Mountain Wilderness. I slept on a lot of narrow cliff edges at the bottom of buttes and halfway up to some mesas where there were no trees. Other than that, it's been hammock all the way. Canoe camping trips. 3 day kayak runs. Lakeside fishing weekends. Serious backwoods hikes. On my own property too many times to count. In car camping campgrounds. At Bonnaroo three times. My Blackbird has been a reliable old friend. I do have an oversized rainfly. It is ridiculously over sized and has save my butt so many times I truly have lost count.
I love my hammock. I feel a lot more comfortable in it than laying on the ground. That said, everything you mentioned was spot on. It really depends on where you're going and what the weather is like.
Last day after 4 month on a mountain in the alps with limited download volume. First video watching and about my system. ;)
Spend a night on about 2000 meters in the winter. Hammock, Snuggpack matt (formed like the top of an old koffin) and a Carinthian 600 sleeping bag (goes under 20 degrees Celsius): totaly warm and comfy.
No underquilt.
(sry for my english. Native german from austria)
I prefer a hammock but bring both during warmer weather
Nothing beats lounging in your hammock overlooking a beautiful lake at sun set, setting the tarp as a canopy to take it all in. I keep a small ultra light tent stuffed in the kit for gear storage or an alternative if hanging is not a option. The little extra weight is worth having unlimited sleeping arrangements. Winter, only tents here in Ontario.
Great job thx for all you are doing 🍻🍁
Luke, you hit me with a bullseye mentioning scoliosis. 10 yrs ago I had a lay flat hammock. Think it was from Haven maybe but it was expensive and nice. One night killed me. So, I donated it to a homeless guy. He was so happy he cried. Maybe that was purpose in getting it. Im a tent guy hands down. Appreciate the video and info! You're the man!
Either your timeline is massively exaggerated or it wasn't a Haven Tent. The Kickstarter campaign for Haven Tent was launched in 2019 and the very first Haven Tents began shipping to Kickstarter backers in early 2020...it is now the year 2021. The Amok Draumr hasn't even been around that long. In 2011 - 2012, a "flat lay" hammock would have most likely been a bridge-style hammock...there were one or two places making a bridge hammock back then.
@@hangnwithdosei3266 I did say "maybe"! I've had a lot of tents, they've came and gone. Remembering one from the other is almost trivial to me. I've been camping since the 60's. Your paragraph was very informative and is appreciated! But, if I'd been positive on the manufacturer, I wouldn't have said maybe. It was purchased at Footsloggers in Boone, NC. However, I do sincerely appreciate your input. So, I stand corrected, but now you have me wondering what it was.
@@ronnieisaacs6960,
That narrows down the list of possibilities to one...the Lawson Blue Ridge Hammock. Expensive, heavy, flippy/unstable unless all 4 corners are tied-out / staked-out. Essentially a spreader-bar hammock (usually only good for lounging in for short periods of time) with a tent-like shelter sewn onto it. It is still in production but rarely seen "in the wild". For people with back issues, hammocks are usually one of two things...a blessing or a curse. I have a cousin with severe scoliosis. He sleeps in a gathered-end hammock every night (he has a hammock stand in the bedroom, his wife sleeps on the bed). He found that, for him, it was one of the key ways for him to stay pain-free. But for some, a hammock is a pain amplifier.
When we car camp I always carry a hammock. Not to spend the night in, but to lounge around with. Im 300 pound plus guy and use a 500 lb rated 2 person hammock. I use it as a swinging chair. take naps on, and keep gear in off the ground and tarped at night since we sleep in car. My 9 year granddaughter and I like laying in it and look up at the trees and talk. So for me my hammock has many other uses, We love the Outdoor Gear Review
I picked up a ridge outdoors hammock that has a built in big net, and a klymit hammock sleeping pad. I have used it to temps down to about 40F. I can’t think of a time when I have slept as good as I do in the hammock even compared to my bed at home. Part of the reason for this is I need a hip replacement and the hammock with a few inflatable pillows under my knees really gets the pressure off my hip so I sleep well. We will see after my hip replacement in December how much I like it.
All that said I upgraded my hammock to a Dutchware chameleon wide to give me a little more space. Laying in it in the backyard has been great can’t wait to try it out for a few nights in the woods.
I like the space of a tent, but I can go lighter and more compact with a hammock. For me, it all depends on your setup. Down quilts, lightweight tarp with enough coverage to hang out underneath in the rain, and lightweight hammock (Dutchware, Warbonnet, Dream …), etc. Getting there can be pricey, however. I’m good with either depending on what I’m in the mood for. If I had to choose among all the options, I prefer just tarp camping.
I’ll choose a hammock over a tent every time. I have no problem cooking from my hammock.
Great overall review, but off in some aspects. Hammocks have also improved over time. I'm primarily a hammock camper. My Warbonnet XLC has ample storage for boots, pants and other large items. My ridge line storage catty stores my phone, cables and extra batteries. The ridge line phone holder from Hammock gear holds my phone while watching movies at night. My zero degree over and under quilt, hammock and accessories weight little over 6lbs. Much less than any tent, sleeping bag, matt, and other items. I do use tents in the winter mostly above tree line and where trees are limited. My Nemo Chogori 2P (8.7lbs) and Hilleburg Nammath 3GT (10lbs w/footprint) both great tents, but are much heavier. berth canal" hammock are not used as much now.
Over 6lbs... Man, my tent+insulated wide long pad+winter wide long bag only weighs 90oz including the footprint maximum packed weight with everything in it's own stuff sack/compression sack.. could cut 6oz off that if I wanted to be less neat and you can put it anywhere without thinking about it, it fits 2 people plus all their gear or your dog, plus you can cook in it, sit up and change in it, have sex in it. Would be even lighter if I wasn't 6'3 with extra large everything. That's a tough sell, guess something different works for everyone though
@@maximusjoseppi5904 not sure of your set-up, but if we use a fairly typically UL set up:
Z-pack duplex: 19oz
EE Revelation: 19.2 oz
Thermarear Uberlite (regular): 8.8oz
GG LT5 Trekking poles: 9.8oz
Total: 56.8oz
Typical hammock set up:
Chameleon (with straps & bugnet): 22.7
20° top quilt and uq from UGQ: 46.8
12ft silpoly HammockGear tarp: 13.6oz
Total: 83.1oz
You save 1lb 10oz
If you’re hardcore UL, the hammock set up would likely be slightly lighter with whoopie strings, a 30°top quilt, a smaller tarp, and a lighter hammock. You’d save 12oz to 1lb by doing that, I also wouldn’t say that’s “typical”. You really have to decide for yourself if you find a hammock 1lb 10oz more comfortable than a tent, I personally do.
@@johnc2242 I don't know why you're responding to me with this 🤣
I'm the one that said a freestanding extra large everything 2p tent setup is still lighter than a hammock setup.
Started using hammocks in 2020 after years of tent camping. Car camping with only 10-50 yard ls to transport stuff allows me to do this. Much better for my back than sleeping on the best setup (even my bed at home).
Moved to Vieques, Puerto Rico and the first month until I found an apartment, spent that month in a Hennessy hammock, slept great! Ocean waves 20ft away lulling me to sleep.
Up to the 3 minute mark, there is good info. After that, it's mostly opinion, not fact. As many other people are noting in the comments, tons of people cook from hammocks, have lighter setups than tents, have plenty of storage in their hammock for small items, etc. If anyone watching this wants to learn more about hammocks without bias, go to Shug's channel or Adventures with the Marine.
I've spent quite some time comparing setups before I did my next purchase and came to some conclusions:
1) Yes, tents can be lighter. But we're now talking about ultralight setups with the common downsides of extreme UL and the hefty price tag.
2) Yes, hammocks aren't the cheapest options. But they don't need to be at the high end of the price spectrum. A good setup is pretty much on par with a midrange tent setup
3) Hanging above the tree line is obviously impossible but further down with the exception for desert or toundra like regions. With the rest it's not harder to find a good spot than it would be for a tent. With a hammock you don't need level ground, you don't care about rocks and roots nor will you worry much about mud. All of those factors have a big impact on tent spots - we all have spent at least one night on a root digging into our backs. As long as there are trees in the area, I'd reckon it's easier to find a good hang than it is to find a good spot to pitch your tent - unless you are restricted to a very small area (i.e. camp grounds).
4) I don't see why hammocks would require more gear? You'll need your hammock, a tarp, an underquilt or sleeping pad and a top quilt or sleeping bag. Both setups require guy lines, possibly stakes. There's no real difference here.
5) Many of the more advanced hammocks come with pockets, pouches, storage nets, etc.Think of peak shelves and ridgeline organizers. Plenty of storage space. Your bag can easily be hung underneath your hammock therefore being off the ground and protected.
6) There are stove systems you can hang by a wire. If you haven't pitched your tarp too low, you can use that from your hammock. For the real fancy ones you could go with something like an Amok Draumr, adjust the hammock into a chair and cook on the ground.
As long as there are trees and you don't want to go the extreme UL route (getting close to the stupid UL region) it's really just a matter of preference. Obviously, tents are superiour above the tree line and in tree-less regions.
Imho the pros and cons are:
Pro:
-basically always a near horizontal lay without rocks and roots lowering comfort
-away from mud especially when it's wet
-away from insects and small animals
-comfort (well, for most, depending on preferences)
Con:
-less protection in heavy rain, let alone storms
-less privacy (might not be an issue for some)
-almost always single person only (there are options for double hammocks but it's never great - if everyone needs their own solo setup, price becomes an argument again)
-no real options above the tree line, in deserts or in toundras.
In the sandhills of NC hammock in the summer tent in the winter. In the mountains I find the tent a better choice for me. Outstanding job Luke.
i live in PA & my camping varies: sometimes the season calls for my Nammatj 2GT, other times it’s my Explorer Asym Zip. If my little nephews are in the mix, it’s Coleman SunDome Elite to the rescue!
Our whole scout troop uses hammocks, including all the scout masters, all year, in Norway. We will of course allow scouts to sleep inside the cabin if they don't have appropriate winter gear and it gets really cold, but in general they all prefer to sleep outside.
I hammock camp all year 'round. I only go to ground if I don't have adequate trees for my hammock. I can bring gear in the hammock with me, hanging it from a gear sling on the ridgeline. I set up my camp kitchen right under the rain fly and use an extra guy line to pull the hammock off to one side when not in use.
Here in the Pacific Northwest, i wont use a tent anymore unless with my family Winter camping in our hot tent.
I have been in 2 rainstorms and one VERY INTENSE wind storm, and my Chameleon Hammock and Warbonnet Superfly handled it all with ease. A 12ft tarp leaves you plenty of room to sit in a chair to relax and cook, regardless if its raining or not.
I stow my pack and boots underneath my hammock and everything stays dry without a problem.
I started wild camping a year ago and I wanted to enjoy it, but couldn't get comfy. I tried a mates Hammock, bought one instantly, now I love wild camping. The most comfortable nights sleep if you do it right! I don't see the point in a tent. If I wanted to wake up with 4 walls around me I'd stay indoors lol
I am in the UK I have to say
1. Bivvy (simple & easy to pack up and move on)
2. Hammock (sleep in one when at home anyway)
3. Tent (if multiple people would be coming with easily switches for number one)
I love using hammock in sub tropical regions. I tried Vietnam and Tchaiwan during late summer. The humidity and hotness of the air was great. I tried tent there as well, but it was too hot and was susceptible to various insects getting in. Big ants always bit its way through my tent.
tent here...! Thx Luke... I know if it's cooler that 75 degrees, you'll need an underquilt!
I think this is very individual. I've yet to try an under quilt just cause I'm cheap but I've hammock slept down to about 55 with the bottom end Klymit pad and some blankets to cover with. The one time I tried cooler than that, I ended up sleeping in the truck. But my son was perfectly happy and comfortable in the hammock that same night.
This needs a revisit because of bridge hammocks, the Amok Draumr, different tarp configurations (for a good view, privacy, wind protection, rain protection etc). In fact, rain is the biggest reason for using a tarp instead of a tent. Setup the tarp and you have shelter for everything you bring along, it'll allow you to change clothes standing up, setup your hammock sheltered and get in for a warm dry night's sleep, while with a tent I ALWAYS regret going out in the rain - everything gets wet.
Hammock are becoming more and more popular, but they're still far from mainstream because a tent is closer to what people are used to at home.
For summer they can be the lightest and most comfortable setup, especially for tropically hot places where you can set it up without insulation for excellent heat dissipation.
Some companies have gear storage under the hammock, in a gear sling - which elevates you off the ground a bit too much for stealth, and it's a falling hazard. A Ridgeline gear holder is best, since it allow you to access it middle of the night with ease, but pair that with a groundsheet that will protect all other gear that you leave on the ground.
You hit all the pros and cons exactly! I started with a cheap hammock and tarp to try it out and haven’t gone back since. It was the first time I slept the entire night without waking up. Though funny enough I don’t really sleep on the diagonal. I can take up to 10 mins getting in just the right position but once I do, I’m out. And for me the biggest issue you mentioned is privacy since nearly all my camping is on scout trips. Otherwise, I’m fine with all the cons just to get that decent sleep. Though my other personal con is the openness in bug season. I don’t have the integrated bug net and a separate one is just too bulky. Though bugs are rarely a problem since I don’t camp through the summer. And I may finally upgrade to get the bug net and a higher end hammock.
I totally hear everything you’re saying. But down here in Texas it’s so much nice with a breeze hitting underneath when it’s hot out. It just allows for so much better ventilation in my opinion.
Just flip the bugnet hammock and use the underside if you want to use it as a seat/ swing. I like the tent better because I like my privacy for when I'm changing clothes etc and also have the space to spread my stuff around. In any case I also carry a hammock to use as a seat and enjoy the view. I'm mostly a motorcycle camper so weight is less of an issue vs hikers.
Sup Luke. Again nice video and you explained a lot in detail.
1 idea how to store your gear while hammocking. In the army we used some sticks and make a frame like a raised #. Bag on top with harness system down and your rain cover on. Simple, there's airflow under your bag and the rain will drip off the raincover and your harnesssystem isn't soaking in a pool of mud. It's not perfect but it's better then nothing right.
DD hammocks sells a gear sling(mini hammock) to hang under your hammock for your backpack/gear. I think it's like 20 euro's and 100 x 120cm (roughly 3 by 4 feet) so it's off the ground.
I got away from using tents and prefer sleeping in a hammock years ago.
This is how I made my Warbonnet XLC hammock more versatile - for using as a tent:
Any well built hammock should do, but I use a double bottom of the Warbonnet XLC hammock.
A 10x13 Aqua Quest Defender tarp, a German surplus ground cloth (8' long x 3.5' wide), amsteel cordage, 550-cord, shock cord and titanium tent pegs (these are with me no matter if I'm hanging or on the ground).
The only real modifications to the hammock is by sewing 550-cord loops on the bottom 4 corners and 1 at the center points for tent pegs and then 550-cord loops sewn on the 4 corners of the bug netting to keep it raised.
The ground sheet is obviously to protect the floor just like with any tent, or for my gear and boots when I'm hanging.
The double fabric bottom is also great to keep a sleeping pad from sliding around.
If camping from my truck, I set my hammock up on a Sunnydaze universal H.D. steel hammock stand.
Hammock (with side entry)! Very confortable, leaves no trace, stays dry,... ! I will buy a tent only for mountain treks :) Hammocks require some practice to find multiple tricks to improve details, (tools are attached to a string just under the tarp, adaptation for the distance between trees, ...). Thx for this video ;)
I like both and probably split what little time I get to spend camping between them fairly evenly. I don't always want to fidget and tweak the hammock, but just throw out the tent and toss stuff in. It's all about my mood when the time comes to leave and the conditions of where I am headed. Stay well, guys.
I like both, but a tent is the more practical choice 90% of the time. That said, I have more fun hammock-camping, just because it feels more like an adventure, and you can look for camp spots on hillsides, over rivers etc.
I think it depends. One trip this year I had a tent, my buddy had a hammock. It was a camp anywhere situation. We had to press on till we found a sight that worked for my tent, hiking just before sunset. Had I had a hammock, we could have stopped much sooner.
It really comes down to what type of hiking/camping you're doing. If you're going on a long backpacking trip / ultra-light weight type deal. Or if you plan on camping somewhere with not a lot of trees, like somewhere in the desert. Then hammock is NOT the way to go.
But if you're doing a simple over-nighter, especially if there isn't much of flat ground, then bring the hammock. I for one, prefer the hammock. It requires a bit more skill and a little longer to set up but I actually enjoy the ritual of setting up and fine tuning it. The reward of comfort at the end of the night is priceless.
I was about done camping. Sleeping on the ground hurt my back. 65 years old. Switched to a hammock. Way more comfortable. I have a Blackbird XLE double bottom. It's got a side shelf and a sleeve for a pad. So no problem with the gear that's inside. I am on the west coast, and I am seeing more people switching to hammocks. I will sleep in a tent if I must but I prefer my hammock. I use a cot tent if I am truck camping by myself where there are no trees. If you have a bad back, you need to get off the ground.
Thank you I never thought a Hammock would be a problem with the back. Thank you for the information about Hammocks.
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I have a ProForce Jungle Hammock. It doesn't come with a tarp, but it does have a built-in mozzie net. Very comfortable to sleep in! I have a 3m x 3m plastic tarp as part of the kit. When I go tent camping, I still take my hammock, as that bug net is invaluable! Lol.
Thanks for talking about back conditions. I have a herniated disc with a spinal cord stimulator.
I live in the Midwest and camp 3 seasons and really love the hammock camping around here. I agree with everything you are saying, the videos are great! Thanks for what you do!!
After trying different mattresses because of back pain I looked at the idea of a hammock, I put a hammock in my house and have now been using it every night for almost 2yrs. I don’t think I could go back to a bed now because hammocks are so comfortable.
Got you beat.. First time I used a hammock was on the AT in the early 70's.. I know many hangers who have small dogs that sleep in the hammock with the owner. My Lab Mix ( 150 lbs ) sleeps under my hammock if it is raining or off the side if the weather is nice. Hammocks have not gotten less popular. Many hammocks have storage pouches in side the hammock or you can get a Warbonnet Blackbird that comes with a storage shelf ( I have been using BlackBirds since 2009 )
Hey Luke! I have 2 summer tents, 1 4-season tent and 1 hammock (Amok Draumr XL) and I prefer hammock, as I don't wake up with a sore back. I'll keep the tents for locations where trees are too small (boreal forest) but lower in Québec province, I'll stick to hammock
Hammock side entry, with a big tarp. (4.5x3m ) plenty of room under there for me, kit etc. Also a structural ridge line and an admin ridge line with a bag of some kind for head lamps, battery charger etc, perfect .
Hammocks for me. For privacy, and wind driven rain, I invested in a tarp with “doors”. Two years ago spent June thru the the first week of October in a hammock, bug net tarp set up. Loved it.
Luke, I am not kidding when I tell you I was actually putting a One Tigris Kompound Hammock into my bag for an overnighter here at the farm. This will be my second foray into the world of hammock camping. I’ve been a lifelong tent user, so this will be a fun experiment.
There's tons of hammocks made in the USA: Dutchware Gear (made in PA), Hammock Gear (made in OH), Warbonnet Hammocks (made in CO), Dream Hammock (made in OH), Superior Gear (made in MN). For your next hammock, be sure and check one of them out.
I’ve been looking at UGQ-believe that’s correct, and Sierra Madre.
I prefer tents. I bring my kamprite tent cot mostly when I go Jeep camping. My hammock is pretty much only for mid day naps lol
Very positive and factual review as always!! I've just recently tried out hammock camping this summer, as it got very hot and humid where I stay just a few weeks ago. Though it was a truly awesome experience overall, I would have to agree with the point that you will keep adding more and more gear to your initial setup. It should be noted that the temperatures in the woods are severely cooler than elsewhere outdoors. This is obviously great if you need to get away from humidity and sunburn, while hanging around in a super cool hammock during the day... definitely not so great between 3 and 6 o'clock in the morning however!! This is when I woke up in the middle of the night, with - in all honesty - the worst shivers that I've ever experienced!! I use a super light, single layer hammock made of very fine ripstop nylon (270g)... which gets really really cold at night! So I started adding a quilt, an under blanket, a pillow, an air pad, an additional tarp, and so on and so forth. All of this is gear that I had originally purchased for hammock camping in winter, and here I was using all of this stuff in early August already. I do have to say that overall however, I find it to be a much more pleasant experience for camping in hot summer weather, than a traditional tent. The ventilation is obviously superb, therefore no problems with condensation at all. It's also actually great fun to just swing around and chill in a hammock, versus being in a traditional tent... you just get much more open views and interaction with nature this way, plus you also get much more comfort than sitting/lying on an air pad (if you are lying in the hammock correctly, which can be tricky at times). I currently use the DD Hammocks superlight range, which in all honesty is a fantastic system! It's lightweight, and it's super fast and easy to set up and use as well!
I use a hammock it’s great!
I own (too many) tents and hammocks, but I find the DD Hammocks Travel Hammock/Bivy a good compromise, because you can hang it between trees or pitch it on the ground, as the situation calls for, because of the waterproof floor.
Luke, I love my Hammock and using it... but I agree with many of your pros and cons... Hammocks are I believe best for situational use. Tents are easier for many I have found.
I'm also a hammock person but i use a Night Cat so when i can't hang it, i can set up on the floor as it acts as a bivvy tent, since i have a tarp then it either fits in a tarp tent config or plow point or lean too so i have the door in the fly always open to help air flow when in ground mode.
I have a DD Superlight Jungle Hammock, which is something of a compromise on the tent v. hammock debate, since I can pitch it as either. Since I live and play in the desert (Great Basin), I have fewer options to use my shelter as a hammock, and if I know I am going somewhere without trees at all, I will usually just take my Snugpak Ionosphere instead.
How do you like the jungle hammock I've been thinking about getting one since it's kinda both a ground bivy and hammock
@@gaylecoombs5510 I like the versatility, but setup in bivvy mode is a little more complex than a straight tent. Durability has been good in my experience, but I am pretty careful with my gear generally. Good luck!
I was pro for the Warbonnet Hammock for the AT. The hammock seemed to have a quick and easy set up. Included, I was going the use an Aqua Quest Tarp. I cannot find anything better than the Defender Series tarp for waterproofness. Helleberg’s tarp was to expensive. If I went tent, I would not use an ultra light. What is given up in weight is not practical for me. I need strength and durability. I need a 40D or higher floor and rain fly. I need a 2000m or higher rain fly and flooring to handle handle rain. Besides the Hilleberg, Terra Nova tents have that spec. There are others too. Thanks for the info. It was very helpful. Best wishes.
I think it is great you mentioned the health side of things. Many neglect that
Hammock camping for the last ten years. Love it!
I just bought my second hammock a Warbonnet xlc, to replace my old set up. I sleep better in a hammock than I do in bed at home. I have not used a tent in years, I may use one car camping if my wife goes with me but other than that no tents for me anymore unless I am someplace that does not have trees to hang from.
I prefer the hammock, side entry. This is because I don't really have to deal with cold nights here in West Europe. I'm really a big fan of having as much ventilation as possible, plus me rocking from side to side, in heavy winds, gives me a comforting feeling. You could always tie your gear to the cords just under the tarp if you've got the bigger option.
Hammock camp all year in FL, side entry for sure, ridgeline organizers work great to stash gear, as always, great info sir.
I haven't used a hammock in years. I have used both styles, and prefer the side zip. I use a wool blanket when it gets cooler out. But once snow hits the ground, tent time, for sure. I like hammocks when one is on the move. If you are going to be more static, tent. So there is my .02 cents worth.
Definitely share the sentiment about short windows of time before the weight stacks up for colder temps. Great video Luke 💯
I think good underquilts are comparable in bulk, but around half a pound heavier than something like and Xlite ground pad
I think for me the big plus for hammock camping is that I am only on my knees for as long as it takes to fasten my rucksack up after I have packed everything away.
I use a bridge hammock most of the time, but I’ve brought a few hot tents. I also have a hot tent for my hammock. I also recently picked up a -20f UQ Warbonnet black bird.
I was today days old when I learned how to lie down in hammock. Thank You Luke!!!!
I am 100% a tent guy however I did buy my wife a Amok dramur And this piece of kit is absolutely awesome. For someone who hates hammocks like me I don’t think you can take these AMOK hammocks and put them in the same category as a regular Hammock because I sleep in these just as good as I do my tent if not better. I think it would be well worth your time to review this piece of kit on your channel
I would love to use a hammock, but I live in desert terrain which means trees are few and far between and honestly I think that is the biggest limitation of hammocks as primary shelter. Yes you can set them up on ground in a pinch or simply use the tarp instead but that kind of negates any positives from carrying it.
Absolutely fantastic review of Hammock pros n cons... You're spot on... I love my hammock but mostly I love putting it up for a day lazing in the woods n cooking ... Not necessarily overnighting