That was a pretty amazing set at 21:30!!! Super smooth recovery at 22:55, I would've been toast! Looks like your number was up at 27:20, but everyone kept their wits about them (like you had done that before), got weight to the high side, sheets out, vang off, and prepped for douse - almost like a TEAM!!! Great job team BadMoon!!!
@@SailDallasRacing In 4K I still can't see the ProStart - that weird looking guy with the decent haircut, cool shades, and professional sailing gloves keeps getting in the way on the downwind runs - but 4K does reveal that the foredeck is smoking hot, wow!!! Some lucky guy better have her locked down!
Good work on the downwinds! A few broaches around you and almost some death rolls but you kept it going until the head stay wrap. From j24 fleet #1 up in wayzata…we have lots of conditions like this at the time of the j24 NAs this fall..c’mon up!
Great work on the down winds the tank comander did a good job what maybe was a touch too much I love his enthusiasm but keeping it simple is the key. Less is more at time.
That was the problem with us on American Magic not too many chiefs in the kitchen keep it simple so it can be concise for the back of the boat but honestly your down wind has legs. Get that up wind sheeting and get right and not being too conservative on the start and ya got a too 5 there in makings or better mate keep on keeping on
Great teamwork. You guys have obviously been sailing together for some time. Impressive kite work. conditions dont appear to be as strong as what is suggested in the title although enough to provide some great sailing.😢
Nice broach recovery - no panic and well done. You probably already know this but when you get a wrap like that around the forestay, if you gybe, it will unwrap. Please don't ask how I know :) Great video, hope the rest of your seres went well.
Great video. Positive: - A very capable crew with good spinacker settings. - Good communication between skipper and crew. - Good recovery from Chinese jibe. Room for improvement: - Main sail trimming is simply not good. - Outhaul is not tight enough, the sail is far too full to beat in these conditions. You have problems to sail the same height as the competition. - Instead of tightening the main sheet, you pull-up the traveler which is a major trimming error in these windy conditions. - You loosen the main far too often for no apparent reason ( fluffing) when beating. Many times, the boat barey has sufficient heeling. - Manoeuvre announcements can be improved. - You count down a manoeuvre like "3...2..." but then you stop. It should be followed by "...1...TACK!" So the crew knows EXACTLY when to tack. - Same with commands like "we need to jibe" and then you suddenly jibe !? - Euh...where are these 35 to 40knots ??? ;-)
How did you end up getting the spin un-wrapped there at the end? I have wrapped my spin and it resulted in me getting towed back to the harbor with the spin still up shredding its self against the rig. Now I always hoist the jib before a spin drop, even at the end of races.
In this case we had to lower the halyard and the trimmer went up and untwisted it. It luckily wasn’t wrapped too bad. It took him a minute to do it. I would recommend gathering the foot of the sail before dropping the halyard.
@@SailDallasRacingmine was wrapped so tight we couldn’t even move the jib halyard. But yeah, if you have both corners controlled your pretty safe, but sometimes things just get fluky.
Ye Ha! my hats off to you racers. I'd be heavily reefed down IF I was caught out. I'd never knowingly sail in those conditions, especially on a lake. Ocean, heave to and drift given sea room. No such luxury on a land bound lake.
I've been racing sailboat for over 60 years, mostly on Lake Erie racing R Class sailboat, Rboats. There is no way this boat could carry a chute and full main if the wind was 30 gusting to 40 knot winds during this video. The water is flat in this video so the committee must have called the race before the wind hit. Why are you trimning the main and being on the helm? Nice jib, but why is the guy block move forward to double as a foreguy, the pool is skying. A downhaul or foreguy on the spinnaker pole would keep that pole horizontal making life a lot easier on the trimmer and boat faster.
When trimming the main you might want to change the path of your hand. You go from block to your backside. Try going to your ear. You will get a lot more trim for each pull.
Great to see a crew, who have worked together for some time, simply getting on with it. A pleasure to watch.
Thank you!
Brings back some great memories of my own J24 days.
Nice - thanks for sharing. Reminds me of some good ole days on my old boat - 1772
Good stuff! Looked like a great race. Although you left us in suspense at the end there.
Ha we ended up getting it down no problem.
Fantastic video Thankyou.
That was a pretty amazing set at 21:30!!! Super smooth recovery at 22:55, I would've been toast! Looks like your number was up at 27:20, but everyone kept their wits about them (like you had done that before), got weight to the high side, sheets out, vang off, and prepped for douse - almost like a TEAM!!! Great job team BadMoon!!!
Glad you had a hitch to get there
Thank you We have practice our broaches at the 2022 worlds at Ccyc. I figured out if you put it in 4k you can actually see the speed on the prostart
@@SailDallasRacing In 4K I still can't see the ProStart - that weird looking guy with the decent haircut, cool shades, and professional sailing gloves keeps getting in the way on the downwind runs - but 4K does reveal that the foredeck is smoking hot, wow!!! Some lucky guy better have her locked down!
Keep the vang on, but let the pole forward. It was the spinnaker that was powering the boat through the leeward broach.
Great video - demonstrating the joy of racing! Thanks from Germany...
Thanks for watching!
Tough conditions. Well sailed. Great work by the sheet trimmer on the chute.
Love this video. Reminds me of good old days
Thank you!
Excellent crew work.
Thank you very much!
28:26 looked like a heave-to. Nice white knuckle sailing. I sail out at Davis Island quite a bit, not racing. Love it out there.
Fantastic, thanks for uploading this!
Thank you for watching!
Got my blood pumping for the old days. Thanks!
Thank you for watching!
Pretty amazing crew work surving that mess. Great video
Thank you!
I hate it when I lose the tiller! (27:15). You did a good job of recovering.
That was the final nail in the coffin!
Good work on the downwinds! A few broaches around you and almost some death rolls but you kept it going until the head stay wrap. From j24 fleet #1 up in wayzata…we have lots of conditions like this at the time of the j24 NAs this fall..c’mon up!
We might you need to come to worlds in Seattle.
Great vid! And yeah, some good ole days on 4201
Enhorabuena, gran trabajo en equipo. Fasssstttttt!!!!!!!
Great work on the down winds the tank comander did a good job what maybe was a touch too much I love his enthusiasm but keeping it simple is the key. Less is more at time.
Very true thanks for the feedback
That was the problem with us on American Magic not too many chiefs in the kitchen keep it simple so it can be concise for the back of the boat but honestly your down wind has legs. Get that up wind sheeting and get right and not being too conservative on the start and ya got a too 5 there in makings or better mate keep on keeping on
Sailing with bill shore and glen Darden a quitter boat is fast happy boat though I enjoyed his enthusiasm a less is more approach would be better
AWESOME
Thank you!
Excelente boat.
Congratulations.
Great teamwork. You guys have obviously been sailing together for some time. Impressive kite work. conditions dont appear to be as strong as what is suggested in the title although enough to provide some great sailing.😢
Thank you I just take the forecast from what it says online!
Nice broach recovery - no panic and well done. You probably already know this but when you get a wrap like that around the forestay, if you gybe, it will unwrap. Please don't ask how I know :) Great video, hope the rest of your seres went well.
I didn’t know that but it makes sense thank you and thank you for watching.
Nice video, but looks like 20 knots max. Certainly not 30-40.
I can send you the forecast from that day
Super fun. Snorting on the final run. You guys have done that before!
Thank you we have once or twice
Great video.
Positive:
- A very capable crew with good spinacker settings.
- Good communication between skipper and crew.
- Good recovery from Chinese jibe.
Room for improvement:
- Main sail trimming is simply not good.
- Outhaul is not tight enough, the sail is far too full to beat in these conditions. You have problems to sail the same height as the competition.
- Instead of tightening the main sheet, you pull-up the traveler which is a major trimming error in these windy conditions.
- You loosen the main far too often for no apparent reason ( fluffing) when beating. Many times, the boat barey has sufficient heeling.
- Manoeuvre announcements can be improved.
- You count down a manoeuvre like "3...2..." but then you stop. It should be followed by "...1...TACK!" So the crew knows EXACTLY when to tack.
- Same with commands like "we need to jibe" and then you suddenly jibe !?
- Euh...where are these 35 to 40knots ??? ;-)
Thank you for the feedback!
Great weather!
Yes it was!
On those downwind legs why were you occasionally pulling on the main? Really enjoyed the video!
“Pumping” we were trying to initiate a surf of waves
@@SailDallasRacing Ah, right on.
Awesome work by that bow person.
She’s bad ass😎
nice video. I was wondering why your twings and spinnaker sheet and guy are running on the inside of the lifeline rather than outside?
How did you end up getting the spin un-wrapped there at the end? I have wrapped my spin and it resulted in me getting towed back to the harbor with the spin still up shredding its self against the rig. Now I always hoist the jib before a spin drop, even at the end of races.
In this case we had to lower the halyard and the trimmer went up and untwisted it. It luckily wasn’t wrapped too bad. It took him a minute to do it. I would recommend gathering the foot of the sail before dropping the halyard.
@@SailDallasRacingmine was wrapped so tight we couldn’t even move the jib halyard. But yeah, if you have both corners controlled your pretty safe, but sometimes things just get fluky.
@@levio1463agreed I personally have had to cut one lucky it was a old one.
The last downwind was satisfying to watch. You should have shown how you managed to untangle the spinaker wrap around the forestay)))
Thank you!
When going downwind, what is the person looking backwards communicating with up 1, down 1?
Love this video. Thanks for sharing! Why do you pump the main when you’re running?
"Rooster tailing". Well run boat
Thank you!
Ye Ha! my hats off to you racers. I'd be heavily reefed down IF I was caught out. I'd never knowingly sail in those conditions, especially on a lake. Ocean, heave to and drift given sea room. No such luxury on a land bound lake.
Sporty out there! Nice recovery after the Chinese.
You have the longest TH-cam handle ever. I am impressed
Thank you we have practiced that recovery a few times if you know what I mean.
Do you use your compass for wind shifts?
We have a Compass for the heading but Our tactician keeps track of the numbers in his head.
30 gust 40 Knts?!? You mean km/h!
No I mean knots! Crazy day
never ever…but most important: you’ve had fun!
Was it the plan to start after everyone else?
Kinda we wanted to be on the boat side and tack out early it ended up paying
good sailing,nice teamwork but no way for 40 knots :)
I probably would've had the luff of the main tighter in those wind conditions....halyard and or Cunningham.
Geez, why did they wait so long to tack over for the line? Starting a country mile behind….love to see the race but wow.
No foreguy?
Have one added now
😊great 😊✌👍
Thank you!
Could use a little boom vang on the downwind legs and some Cunningham going up
I definitely agree!
Are Dallas knots (wind speed) different from normal knots elsewhere?
@@huisbrand1.15 mph
How about some traveler down going upwind…
@@huisbrand Right. That was not 35-40. 18-22ish it looks to me.
30 knots maybe over stated here, but great sailing under these condition.
I've been racing sailboat for over 60 years, mostly on Lake Erie racing R Class sailboat, Rboats. There is no way this boat could carry a chute and full main if the wind was 30 gusting to 40 knot winds during this video. The water is flat in this video so the committee must have called the race before the wind hit. Why are you trimning the main and being on the helm? Nice jib, but why is the guy block move forward to double as a foreguy, the pool is skying. A downhaul or foreguy on the spinnaker pole would keep that pole horizontal making life a lot easier on the trimmer and boat faster.
Start. He crossed the starting line in last place
I agree poor start but taking out early payed.
Classic case of helm trying to do too much........costing you loads man
Can you elaborate more please. Are you talking about too much tiller movement? I’m not quite sure what you mean.
Respectfully. Not sure why you would put your crew and boat through some pretty gnatly conditions and not at least try for a competitive start.
When trimming the main you might want to change the path of your hand. You go from block to your backside. Try going to your ear. You will get a lot more trim for each pull.
Thank you for the tip I agree get more sheet per pull.
Very late start
Agreed a little rusty.
It appears he is on the wrong side of the course.
Kts = knots
Poor boat handling avoid collisions at all costs!
He tacks way to early. 10.40.
He fouls the first mark.
Which mark are you referring to?
15 20 sec late for the start and passed a ton of holes on on port on the right 10% of the line? Terrible start, worse tactics at start
life vests are overrated