The Key to Upwind Performance | Dynamic Tuning | North Sails Expert Charlie Cumbley & Cyclops Marine

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  • With the help of smarttune load sensors from Cyclops Marine, North Sails One Design Expert, and J/70 World Champion Charlie Cumbley explains how the dynamic balance of upwind performance hinges on forestay load.
    To learn more about how smarttune can boost your performance, visit: www.cyclopsmarine.com/product... or inquire at: info@cyclopsmarine.com.
    Find your local North Sails expert for any sail-related inquiries or questions: www.northsails.com/sailing/en...
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  • @yigalglebrozval6533
    @yigalglebrozval6533 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Great vid for amateurs' who want to improve their understanding of sail's trimming. It is amazing how few videos there are on this topic, considering amount of people buying yachts. For those who look for a good book for sails trim I'd recommend Felix Marks - best sail trim book I read.

  • @Drew-eo2oj
    @Drew-eo2oj ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you good stuff! it always helps to have a detailed refresher.
    Properly trimmed boat is such a great feeling.
    The other day I was on a J105 in flat water about eight knots of wind and we had the sails so beautifully trimmed on a close reach that the helm remain stationary when I let go.
    I was in awe and it was spectacular.

  • @CapriceV6
    @CapriceV6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video - MORE please! My race boat has the tensionable Forestay I can adjust from the cockpit

  • @cgrelon
    @cgrelon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent video

  • @esp1304
    @esp1304 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great information for a Main sail trimmer like me! Thnks

  • @andreruegg9490
    @andreruegg9490 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    awesome, thanks!

  • @Toob41
    @Toob41 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Good tutorial thanks. Jeanneau Sun Fast 3300 £130,000 and £1,600 for the load sensor - I can afford the telltales!

    • @fabienh3943
      @fabienh3943 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. Wasn't sure. It's a bloody beauty....getting more expensive by the day apparently

  • @larry9210
    @larry9210 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video, thank you so much. Can you talk a little about mast bend? Especially when your boat has running and standing backstays. I never know if I’m supposed to use the running back stay to keep the middle of the mast straight and use the main backstay to pull the top of the mast back to help flatten the main sail. . Thanks again.

    • @martygingras8683
      @martygingras8683 ปีที่แล้ว

      If what you are calling a 'running backstay' will straighten your mast when the standing backstay is pulled on tightly, then it's what we'd call a 'checkstay' and that's how you are supposed to use the two. Flatten both sails by pulling on the standing backstay, then --- if the main is too flat --- tension the checkstay to power-up the main to achieve the balance you want.

  • @cgrelon
    @cgrelon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    More please

  • @crapisnice
    @crapisnice 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    also you can use twist to power (stalling the base) or depower (stalling the top=less heeling and turbulence drag) the sail top area
    this info is found in airplane wing twist, that is mostly used to control stall and parasitic wing tip drag

  • @winstonlord9824
    @winstonlord9824 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Charlie, nice vid. Looking at the mainsail the top batten was falling to leeward on every shot. I was always taught that the top batten should be parallel to the boom. Perhaps it is different with fathead mains?

    • @yigalglebrozval6533
      @yigalglebrozval6533 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It should be twisted leeward - wind's speed is higher up there. Sail should be twisted, same way plane's propeller is twisted.

  • @jungtarcph
    @jungtarcph 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would be cool to track speed and height and do systematic tests of many combinations...

  • @bryansmith1920
    @bryansmith1920 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should racing Yachts go back to multi-masts the Hull form already has a limit ???

  • @blagger42
    @blagger42 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The load on the stays are measured in what units?

    • @cliffordbradford8910
      @cliffordbradford8910 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      at 6:59 he says it's a 500kg forestay tension change. The display went from 1.2-ish to 1.7-ish so that display was in metric tonnes

  • @tedhoppe5918
    @tedhoppe5918 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great for folks that sail in 10kts. what is the north set up for Beaufort wind force scale of 5 (over 20kts) with this system in heavy sea chop? I just saw a new 3300 reefed get tossed on its ear with poor pointing ability in those conditions.

    • @rydenkaye9735
      @rydenkaye9735 ปีที่แล้ว

      In windier conditions you want a more twisted mainsail to both spill power up high where it’s less effective (because it’s higher up it tips the boat more and you’re power limited by righting moment) and also to widen your grove to allow for steering for waves. Having a more twisted sail means a portion of the sail remains powered at a wider range of apparent wind angles allowing you to keep power while heading up and bearing off to reduce slamming in waves

  • @Airsails
    @Airsails 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    DEPTH? Are we confusing it with draft {camber)?
    What about angle of attack? It is first and foremost to beating.

  • @jornhaga8823
    @jornhaga8823 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A bit surprised there was no mention of traveller use??

    • @bsinton
      @bsinton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think thats a basic tutorial to keep it simple to start with im sure they will explain that in another video theres alot they didnt show in this vid

    • @12345fowler
      @12345fowler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I mentionned car position. isn't the car the same as the traveller ?

    • @bsinton
      @bsinton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its har for different parts of tge world a car in aus is controlling the headsail clew and traveller is the main slides controlling twist i think the videp was a good basic tutorial

    • @griffinbrungraber9498
      @griffinbrungraber9498 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or mainsail outhaul?

    • @bsinton
      @bsinton 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@griffinbrungraber9498 have u seen the next video

  • @danstanford3071
    @danstanford3071 ปีที่แล้ว

    The missing element to low mast compression for light winds (when you are seeking more power) is twist in the main? We are trying to take twist out of the main when seeking power by lowering the traveler and sheeting on the main to close the upper leech of the main. Inevitably this extra main sheet tension adds tension to the forestay, how do we balance this?

    • @martygingras8683
      @martygingras8683 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey Dan. (1) Twist in light wind is to account for the usual and sometimes very significant wind speed gradient (and thus apparent wind angle gradient) from top to bottom. W/o twist, the top tends to stall. (2) When I trim main on the E 37 in light winds, I pull the traveler above centerline and ease the sheet to get the twist we want w/o reducing angle of attack. (3) Proper mainsheet tension on the E 37 in light wind won't appreciably load the headstay.

  • @casatv8916
    @casatv8916 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What boat is that?

    • @marcsmann9569
      @marcsmann9569 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jeanneau Sun Fast 3300

  • @michaelquigley1411
    @michaelquigley1411 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My Gawd, whom is this video for? People who are learning to sail will not be considering a "Smart Tune" for the forestay on their 40 year old Sonar. OK... let's get on with your commercial...
    The rest of the info is pretty good and I'll share this with my adult sailing students with a caveat to disregard the high tech equipment and boat.

  • @brettharman8921
    @brettharman8921 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    bending air-

  • @beezergood
    @beezergood 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Charlie Chumbley? You'd think they would get the presenter's name right...

    • @grahamsharp5130
      @grahamsharp5130 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know! Poor Charlie

  • @johngregory4801
    @johngregory4801 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    While this is all great information, I know that it's not truly a North Sails video. All Old School disciples of North Sails' teaching courses know this yacht isn't legit...
    It isn't named "Lumpy Gravy".

    • @glennwalters948
      @glennwalters948 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know we all have our bias, etc, but despite the face the SF3300 is not a yacht, is that the basis for stating it is not legit?

    • @martygingras8683
      @martygingras8683 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@glennwalters948 It was humor.

  • @lionelmartinez4681
    @lionelmartinez4681 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What boat is this?