BEST On-The-Go Charging for EcoFlow Delta Power Stations!
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Good thing I watched the Pecron 500 watt alternator charger for the power stations. It charges any brand.
134 dollars with a discount code. 😊
But is it any good?
Yup I had seen that as well that's what I am buying. I could buy 4 of the pecron chargers for the price of the ecoflow overpriced charger.
@@teideterrorsi am not sure byt i think victron has an Orion module where you can connect the alternator for dc dc charging. It is installed on some RV .
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Simply built, at 149, I can buy 4 for the price of 1 Ecoflow
@wt9653 yeh and it's more flexible 😉 just concerned about it's very noisy fan.
Yay, more rabbit holes of products you must have!!!.
Your looking at it right behind you a 1000w power inverter in your car will do the same exact thing for 10 percent of the price
Thanks for sharing. Would love to see you do a detailed review of the new Victron Orion XS 700 watt DC-to-DC unit with 98% efficiency when you can get your hands on one.
I for one, will be buying this accessory for my ecoflow delta pro when I purchase it
I could only get about 60-80W from my Prius's 12V power port for my EcoFlow Delta Mini. So I built a simulated 300W solar input to take power directly from the 12V battery (only while it is charging) buck it up to 24V, and pipe that into a "solar" charging cable. Now it recharges at 300W whenever the Prius is in Ready mode. I don't bother with solar.
The priest V is a dream car life vehicle for me. But I can't let go of my job yet
Was just thinking what if you use this as a way to charge a off grid cabin instead of putting up solar panels or even having a gas generator use your vehicle to charge up the cabin batteries as needed and if you have a remote start for the car that would even be a bigger bonus :)
I bought a 700w pure sign inverter and a 20’ jumper cables that cannibalized for cheep cables and that charges my delta 2 amazingly! All in with connectors for around $200 bucks.
I have a 400w inverter in my Bronco Sport Badlands and it is free, combined with my 420w portable panel, i have enough power. It is also work with any powerstation not simply Echoflow.
Factory inverters usually don't change
Basically a more sophesticated version of the Daygreen chargers and dc-dc step up converters sold online.
I use a 12 to 58V step up dc to dc charger from Daygreen. 100A input 20A output 1072watts. Use it to charge Oecron E1500lfp and E600LFP power stations at the same time.
There's been a lot of videos on this device, but you don't get something for nothing, so this will definitely reduce the fuel economy of your vehicle. Since it is a DC charge, it's definitely cheaper than charging from AC.
DC to DC converters generally get hot. What are the temps for this unit. Since I don't see any fans on this unit?
Get a renogy dc to dc / solar , cheaper and can use your solar at the same time. You want to only pull about 20% of your alternator as well. Plus the solar can trickle charge your starter battery.
Is a simple DC-DC Converter that uses a lot of very brand specific cables for $600 and you get 800W, well for about $300 you can get a 2000W Renogy or 1200W Victron Pure Sinewave Inverters (in case you want known brand quality) or for around $150 many other off brand highly rated 1500-2000 Inverters...and while they will take a bit more space, they can be used for anything and in a pinch can charge multiple units...I say in a pinch or occasionally, because even at 800W most small vehicles will not have an alternator that is designed for heavy loads for extended periods, some work trucks and RV's do have heavy duty alternators or even multiple ones because they are designed that way. I love EF products and I own many...but this, other than look pretty and be smaller than an inverter, nope.
Another channel, outdoor adventures has a Jeep. He bought the heavier duty big tow package gladiator Alternator to upgrade But even went through the process of testing the stock alternator just show capacities and what to expect if you didn't have a heavy duty over there before he changed it.. And I think he said it cost him a couple hundred for the alternator on top of this charger setup. He sees this costing less than investing in other quality Name brand inverters like renogy because it comes with all the cable, fuses and everything. I've watched most of the videos available currently and this is coming in at around half the price, or a little more, if you upgrade your alternator. I don't know the numbers as i haven't run them myself but basic online research, they seem to be in the ballpark, But I have not priced the full list of stuff out for my vehicle as I haven't committed to a setup. Being in ecoflow with the Delta 2 Max and Glacier, this is very interesting to me.
When using a real alternator, pulling the max wattage seems like you are going to wear out your alternator pretty fast for most cars or trucks. Running at high loads contiuously for long periods of time builds up a lot of heat in the windings. I will be interested in seeing the long term reviews for this vs a DC-DC charger
This is exactly what it will do, the extra load on the alternator is a condition it was not rated for.
How well will it work after they inevitably shut down the app service?
Would you be able to cut those cables that goes to your battery and use a couple of Anderson connectors so I can have my Power Station in a truck camper and be able to disconnect when I take the camper off the truck.
Great review.
Can’t speak for the Ford Mach-E, but the Nissan Leaf would be fine as they were built with V2H in mind.
Pecron just came out with their own 500w car charger. Guess everyone is going to develope their own
Yeah and Renogy has a 12v 50 amp dc-dc mppt solar/ alternator battery charger.
Yes! I bought one for 134.00.😊 Ecoflow wants 599.00😮
The number are closer to 400w so it's half the speed and it also can't back feed the car to keep the battery charger. Like if you wanted to go to a drive in movie and not run your car
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149 for Pecron
599 for Ecoflow
🤔😁🤣😉
@@Lorenzo-ix2wc All you need to do to make that happen is a put in an a battery switch and wire it up. when you charge the house battery its on A when you want to charge another battery simply turn it to B.
This is WAY better than what Bluetti has up it's sleeve.
Are they missing one connection? Being able to wire to the bus bars to charge the House batteries as well?
My new policy is to leave as soon as I hear 'game changer'.
The tl;dw is Higher priced and proprietary compared to other solutions that fill the same niche on the market. The positive tradeoff is that it works in the Ecoflow Ecosystem and app. Basically an Apple Product mentality.
@@inplfw Bless your cotton socks.
Me too. These people are so in love with all these inverters, battery banks, and solar panels. I especially love those dreamers with all electric RVs.
I'd charge it off the inverter in back of Ute whilst driving
@@chrishepple3401 as long as your inverter is pure sine wave or the delta will not charge.
Been proven over and over.
Most all factory installed inverters are not pure sine.
A $109.97 GIANDEL Power Inverter Pure Sine Wave 600Watt 12V DC to 120V AC with Remote Control Dual AC Outlets in addition to the 100W regular car charger will give you a car charging system of 600+100=700W while the car is running
Giandel power inverter pure sine wave 600watt 12v dc to 120v
Got it! Checking now, thanks
Well, I have a fully equipped Ford with an inverter. I guess this for Chevy and Dodge owners 😅
Got mine for $399. I’m planning to add a 30’ 1/0 extension to the battery cable with clamps for quick temporary install. This will allow me to charge my delta pros and delta 2 max inside the house or 5th wheel.
How did you get it for $399?
Love it.
Game changer is over used
Your comment is a game changer!
Thank you for the review and offering additional options. I own the Delta-2 but my specs show it only allows for 500 watts of solar input. How is yours allowing over 600?
A year ago I installed a boost converter under my hood, attached to the car battery and boosting voltage to 24 VDC, then running much smaller wiring to the trunk. That allowed me to get about 200-250 watts.
As I read comments below, I also just bought the Pecron as it was less expensive than other options and allows me to use multiple voltage battery banks to charge the variety of solar power stations I own via MC-4 connectors and adapters.
Yeah sounds like you've already got a workable solution then. But yeah it cam input up to 800W because it is bypassing the solar charge controller and going straight in through the battery expansion port.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Ahh, I didn't think about it bypassing the controller, which I will not be able to do easily with my other power stations.
Nice to know, thanks!
Using the app, can you adjust the maximum wattage that this alternator charger will pull off the starter battery/alternator? Thanks!
What alternator would work best to upgrade to run the ecoflow dc charger?
Do not leave power cord rolled up,it creates a magnetic field,creating a larger load on battery. Creates a less amount of charging current and possibly fire hazard.
Hey buddy have you factored in the vehicles alternators amps some are lower amps than others however you can get a higher amp like a100 amp alternator I did on my Dodge Ram 1500 for a camper 12 vdc electrical system it helps a lot thanks Eric !
I'm by no means an 'expert' on this type of charging solution, but I did do some research on this and the consensus seems to be that as long as you're max current rating on the alternator is about 2x the max current of the DC -DC charger, it should be totally fine. So iwith this particular product, the max current would be ~63A at the full 800W. So as long as your vehicle's alternator is rated for at least 125A or more, it should be totally fine.
I like that I can charge with my 560 watts of solar and this at the same time, plus the app is el neato.
I think this would work fine with an EV 12v Battery. For example on a M3 long range RWD when the battery drops to 12.5v the charge cycle will start and it charges at around 14.55v until charging complete at 13.15v. So you may have a slower charge to start, same as in your example before you switched the solar on, but once the battery dropped to 12.5v then you would be charging at 14.55 so probably getting close to the 800w.
I put a Renogy 40A DC to DC charger from my battery to a PUP 100 AH LIPO bat. to an inverter. I have LESS money in this set up than you do in that 1 box you just opened. Mine does the SAME thing your multi-thousand-dollar system does. What's better, rich or smart? I like smart and frugal.
To preparatory, needing all Eco (now gas charging "Eco") . Hate being held hostage by a company. I'll reevaluate a universal friendly option that others will offer soon. Don't need an app, if it works on it's own.
Renogy and Pecron are really good choices.
Looks like a glorified DC to DC charger at a high price with a higher voltage output for power station. Can get decent DC to DC charger and inverter for far less. Good review of it tho.
I'm curious if that would work on an Ev. There is a 12v battery and that seems to be the connection.
This costs $800. A 2000W pure sine inverter can be had for $200-250 with the necessary power cables. Not only does that save you a LOT of money, but it charges significantly faster and offers further utility for multiple devices, including power stations from other brands.
200 Watts is nothing.
Most akterators can push out 1000 Watts.
You would need a 800 to 1000 watt inverter to match this.
But those are also much cheaper.
Nice to.know. l commented elsewhere l like this device. But l didn't think about the less expensive approach you describe here.
@@EvenStar303 2000W. Typo.
@@1FAST91SONOMAmy bad.
super!!!!!
If you’re charging at 12 volts, it limits the watts to around 120 because the power station is typically limited to ten amp. Amps x volts = watts. So if you can double or triple the volts, you can charge at double or triple the speed. This can be done with a DC to DC converter at a much cheaper price. The advantage of this device is that it automates the process. Beware though that this could max out your alternator as it keeps your 12 volt car battery fully charged.
just a question - If you own an EV (Battery Electric Vehicle - NOT HYBRID) would this still work, if you connect it directly to the 12V battery, as the main drive battery of the EV charges the 12V....so was actually wondering about this, as I would definitely buy this along with a EcoFlow Generator as a electric jerry can for my EV and having this inside the car to charge on the off chance I run out of juice in the EV and couldn't get to a Charging Station.
Since the EV does not have a conventional alternator, I wouldn't risk it.
The Renogy 50a MPPT DC to DC is a way better option, it can handle 25A from your solar panels and it charges your Starter battery from PV when the house battery is full, has BT capability, also cost $200 less
I wonder if this would work with a quad?
Great review! Thanks for discussing the various options. Solar is nice. But unless you are staying put for the full day at your campground you’re stuck for charging. And not everyone drives 8 hours a day. The gas alone to do that is crazy right now. Thanks for showing the alternatives and how to connect them. Much appreciated!
DC to DC charger has been around for 50 years. The lead acid battery used isolator. Lithium batteries use a controlled DC to DC charger and have been out for around 5 years or longer.
I am really confused at how this works. So I just want to know if it could damage your alternator or cause you to have to replace it sooner?
I'm by no means an 'expert' on this type of charging solution, but I did do some research on this and the consensus seems to be that as long as you're max current rating on the alternator is about 2x the max current of the DC -DC charger, it should be totally fine. So iwith this particular product, the max current would be ~63A at the full 800W. So as long as your vehicle's alternator is rated for at least 125A or more, it should be totally fine.
Is xt90 a universal plug? Is this only usable with Ecoflow products?
I actually mis-spoke on that connector. It's actually an XT150 connector... And it would be possible (I believe) to get it to charge other battery/power stations, it'd take a bit of DIY ...and I'd think you might actually be better off at that point just saving some money and going with a more 'generic' DC-DC charger.
Great video and product. Seems the actual install is a pain in the ass. Love to see some videos on easy installation.
Hate being held hostage by a company. I'll reevaluate a universal friendly option that others will offer soon. Don't need an app, if it works on it's own.
Yeah I might have a similar solution for non-EF users to show soon.
Great video!
can u buy this in the uk I looked at the site and it takes me to us site
Mine will be here in 2 weeks. I don't mean to be harsh.. but do more RESEARCH on the products you do reviews on. I have a Delta 1300 and the Delta II and it won't plug into the 1st version.. it's the 1300 model and has no port on the side of it, nor does it have BT or WiFi.. It will work on the Delta II or later. 7:32 mark.. "threaded screws".. huh.. lol.. We know what you meant..
$600??? Gtfoh. Prices like these are why people pause and reconsider investing in this stuff. Insane!
The reverse charging does that mean if my car battery died I can jump it with the power station?
Yes, as long as the car battery is just low, but still healthy, the power station can charge the car battery up enough in a few minutes to start the car. The power station cannot supply enough current to start the car on its own, so the car battery has to be able to accept a charge and to produce the high current needed for motor starting.
Go to auto zone and buy a 250 amp alternator with lifetime warranty and bammm all is good
So if I install a xt90 connection to my battery it will work?
Maybe? But I think there's a strong chance it wont since it threw an error ok comms until I updated the Delta 2 firmware. Seems it's looking for some handshaking for compatible devices.
Why not get a 600W power inverter and plug it into your lighter socket and use the AC connection on the EcoFlow? Then you can charge any power station on-the-go. Wouldn’t that work just as well?
A automotive lighter socket supplies 12 V (up to 14 V when engine is running) at 10 Amps maximum, so 14 x 10 = 140 Watts maximum. The 600W power inverter is only about 80-90% efficient, so it can supply no more than about 120 Watts continuously when hooked up that way. To get 600 Watts out of your inverter, you have to wire it directly to the battery terminals with relatively heavy wire.
You left out the impact on the alternator such as heat generated at different rpms.
See comments below for less expensive alternatives.
An XT 90connector does NOT six little pins in the center, so it must be some other type of connector!!
I don’t see the alternator charger on the Ecoflow app yet?? Why? Do you actual have to have the unit for it to show?
Also that is a xt150 connector NOT xt90 you keep calling it xt90.
Thanks for the reminder! I'd been meaning to correct the record on that connector type and keep forgetting! But yeah, I think the app (at least for now) needs to detect the unit before it will show up as an option.
For what you are paying for all that intelligent charging system you can get a high output alternator that can handle the needs of the vehicle and support your house battery / power station needs. Consider Mechman Alternators or J & J Alternators to create a more powerful mobile powerplant, I run a 320 alternator and two 1000-amp Optima bats wired in parallel in my Suburban.
Nice unit.. but only good for ecoflow units.... if and when can use on other powers stations or othe manufacturers make the same I will buy!
Honda inverter, no wires required. Just a little noisy.
Is the Ecoflow 800 alternator charger compatible with 3.6L engine with eTorque?
I am a newbie here and am electronically challenged. But I ordered the Alternator charger with the idea of connecting it with a standalone battery in my SUV. The battery would then charge my Delta 2. Are you with me so far? The battery is a 12V/24V 100Ah/200AH Lithium LiFePO4 Deep Cycle Battery, 3000+Deep Cycles, 100A BMS. Can I do this and only charge the battery with shore power when needed? TYI Joel
Yeah that'll work (it's what I was doing in the video). You just won't get the full 800W...probably more like 400-500W, which is still pretty good.
Is that not an xt150 connector?
You are correct! I didn't catch my mistake until after I'd posted. :P
Sweet
XT150, not XT90.
My car is electric this is for all cars or just diesel i guess?
Great video! Has anyone tried this Ecoflow alternator charger TOGETHER with the DC input (XT60i) at the same time? Can the Delta 2 combine two different charge inputs into a higher charging capacity?
Delta 2 and delta 2 max and delta pro can only take one input source at a time...
You NEVER want to use your alternator to charge a battery! Alternators nowadays are only met to maintain a good battery, Not charging external sources!
An alternator is a 3 phase electrical generator coupled with diodes to convert the output to low-ripple DC. It couldn't care less what sort of load it's attached to as long as it is within the alternator's operating limits. And it most certainly is just fine to use it for battery charging as long as cooling is adequate.
I enjoyed the video, but prior to posting I checked the price of an alternator for my new $80,000 truck and it was $1,300.00, if this item malfunctioned would Eco flow pay for the repairs, and would the vehicle manufacturer recommend this product?.
They must cover repairs if under warranty and unless they can PROVE the failure was due to some unauthorized use or change. How much would you tell them?
I forsee a lot of burnt up alternators for the users of this product.
Do you think they didn't account for that and made this product so your alternator doesn't burn? You must be smarter than them.
More ecoflow over priced accessories.
May we have a moment of silence for all those dead alternators and the ones who will follow?
I'm by no means an 'expert' on this type of charging solution, but I did do some research on this and the consensus seems to be that as long as you're max current rating on the alternator is about 2x the max current of the DC -DC charger, it should be totally fine. So iwith this particular product, the max current would be ~63A at the full 800W. So as long as your vehicle's alternator is rated for at least 125A or more, it should be totally fine.
What good is a device that is powered from a vehicle. If you are in a location long term, disconnect your vehicle your trailer or 5th wheel will not charge! Solar Panels are always connected and charging your batteries.
He described situations when solar panels won't cut it in the video. 🤷
Is there a way to charge your through that
sun fun kits, battery's are a game changer. no solar needed
I just saw this video and immediately checked it's price. My first reaction seeing it is $600 shocked me.
But gee think about it you likely have more invested in solar panels. I'd go this way due to the short changing time. We dan charge even running around doing errands.
I have a Ford that's equipped with an inverter. I guess this is for Dodge and Chevy owners😅
it's only for their ecoflow battery, booo
Not to worry, I've got a couple options coming soon that should work for just about anything.
600 Dollars? Way too much money.
Ya and replace your alternator every year 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
Why??
People actually know what they're doing and upgrade alternators, nothing new. I have a 60amp dc to dc and upgraded my alternator to 350amp.
Some vehicles have high output alternators and even if it doesn't it's only 800 watts.
Maybe if you had a degree in automotive and knew how alternators and electricity worked you would know something
His thing is way too expensive.
You are better off getting an second battery module and charge it at home.
The problem with this thing is that most ppl dont drive enough hours to fully charge the unit every day.
I know I used to live in my Toyota Landcruiser.
Idling the huge engine is very inefficient.
I agree that it IS expensive. BUT, most alternatives don't get you the full 800W, and then when you compare this to the cost of, say, 800W of solar, it's actually way cheaper. And I completely disagree that most ppl don't drive enough hours to fully charge your EF Delta. If you're driving to a trailhead just 30mins away for a day hike...and then drive 30mins back to camp, you'll pretty much have fully charged a Delta 2. And you don't have to worry if it's cloudy or raining...you just need about an hour of drive time in a day...and that is definitely not a problem for how my car-camping trips usually go. That might not be the case for everyone, but it certainly is for me. We can agree to disagree. :)
@@ReeWrayOutdoorsBut you can get a 1200 Watt inveryer for 200 bucks and hook that up to your alternator and you can fast charge your powerstation through AC, way cheaper.
@EvenStar303 that's fair, and I will confess that I don't have any experience with that particular setup so I'm not sure what other considerations might or might not come into play. Still, I appreciate your contributions to the broader conversation.
Folks, this isn't just for EcoFlow brand specific, it'll charge any power station. It may be overpriced, but for people like myself who are in the EcoFlow ecosystem, this just makes sense
High price comments are laughable.
If you bought a ecoflow you weren’t looking for the best bang for your buck.
The benefits of an ecoflow and this device simplicity.