Film Study: Is Marvin Harrison Jr. as Elite as people say he is?
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His skill, size, character, work ethic and even bloodline are all amazing. He's generational.
Reminds me of a more polished, slightly less athletic AJ Green. Tall, fluid, coordinated and more smooth than explosive. AJ Green was a MONSTER out the gate with 1000 yards and 7 TDs as a rookie. I think it’s fair to expect that from MHJ his first year.
Reminds me of Michael Thomas combined with DeAndre Hopkins.
Lmao he’s just as athletic as AJ Green if not more.
@@mcren6781 maybe. Doesn’t seem to go up as high as effortlessly as Green did IMO but looks quicker.
Marv has been clocked at 23mph on GPS. That's as fast as Tyrek
@@alod247AJ green actually only had a 34 inch vertical. But he had immaculate body control and coordination. I think he had a bit more quick twitch muscles than Harrison though. Just a shade quicker and springier. I think Harrison is more physical and has better footwork at the line. And possibly better hands.
Marvin Harrison Jr has elite body control. Could see him getting toe drag catches on possession routes routinely.
I feel like a receiver like this doesn’t always look as a good as he is because it’s so smooth even in quick cuts.
Just such a natural and one of the best second gen prospects I’ve ever seen up there with like Winslow vs Jr. And Joey Porter vs Jr.
Should be an awesome piece for whoever gets him (please Chargers)
If god exists, he’ll send MHJ to catch passes from Herbert instead of the midget gamer
I think the hesitation with MHJ is rooted in the likelihood that There are guys in this draft class with lower floors than MHJ but higher ceilings.
Is being the lowest risk WR the same thing as being the highest ceiling (highest potential) WR?
Is MHJ about to burn the whole NFL for 14 TDs like Ja’Marr Chase?
Probably not but 1k yards and 5-7 TDs is still awesome.
But on the other hand there are a couple other WRs in this class that could have that Ja’Marr Chase like rookie season but those guys have lower floors than MHJ.
You ever play a video game like Elden Ring where you have to distribute a limited amount of stat attributes?
If you make a well rounded character you run the risk of having a character that can do everything well but nothing devastating.
But if you focus on a few attributes you end up with a character that is devastating in a particular way.
I think MHJ actually has the highest ceiling of any WR by far. Even higher than Chase, because ceiling is determined by absolute best case scenario, mainly size speed and instincts. Marv has all that and more, Chase maybe has more agility, if you are going by video game stats, but Marv has more talent points to spend so to speak
The MHJ hype kinda died down out of nowhere. Just a month or two ago he was largely seen as the best WR prospect of all time, how he isn’t even the WR1 on some peoples boards. Maybe this receiver class is just that good?
think ppl just have to have something to talk about
Nabers = Justin Jeff (slightly faster but worse routes) MHJ = shorter slightly faster mike Evans. Nabers more explosive
The ppl that know say mhj is top dog better at route running better hands understands zone cover and doesn’t get bullied off the ball, nabers on the other hand has the athleticism speed and it doesn’t hurt having a great qb passing him the ball…
he didn't do Combine or Pro Day.
Because when your that good people gotta find things to nitpick
I don’t understand why no one is mentioning the fact that Nabers objectively had a better qb BY A MILE.
I keep getting called a provocateur for saying I like Nabers more. I hate that we can’t go against the consensus without triggering people.
Me too, but you have let sheep be sheep. I was called an idiot for saying Aaron Donald is the best player in the 2014 draft over Clowney and Khalil Mack and years later I looked like Nostradamus. Happens every year tho and I have plenty more stories like that, but I agree that Nabers is going to be a bonafide superstar.
Only because the people that I’ve heard take mabers over him just sound like hot take ish. They are both going to bad teams without other weapons on the other side of them maybe without a good qb idk I’m I ready to make that hot take without hearing some intelligent reason because he wasn’t in a position to get doubled they guy on the other side of him is just about as good of a athlete and the qb is a top 3 pick this year. But for MHJ Ohio state was this loaded his freshman year we knew he was the best then sophomore year it was just him and jsn he still was the best in the country. This year he came back without a nfl qb and another big time receiver and did the same thing again I’ve seen too many 3rd downs where he was doubled and still got open to change my mind because we believe the other guy is faster
I think for nabers the situation will determine it if he get a great landing spot he may be as good or better but I think MHJ can go be the number 1 receiver for the patriots right now and get 1200 yards
oops not in NYG
IMO, MHJ is the “best overall player” not taking position value into account. I simply think he has the highest floor of any prospect in any position group. He should be the first WR taken in the draft. He will be effective day one and be valuable to any offense. Barring injury, he is a “can’t miss” prospect.
The only issue I see with your opinion is that there is a better receiver in the draft and his name is Malik Nabers.
@@nickl1768 and that is your opinion as well. That’s the fun of evaluating these guys. You really never know until they step on the field in an NFL uniform
You missed on this in my opinion. His weakness is 1000% not coming down with those 1v1 balls. His weakness is his blocking and his willingness to block.
MHJ to the Chargers, Harbaugh saw him enough in college, pairr him with Herbert and you're cooking!
We should get nabers he’s has higher ceiling dude also just ran a 4.35
Cardinals will take MHJ in 4th without doubt if he's still on the board
@@Posty-tl2tz Agreed 1000% just feels like Ariz might trade out of 4 let someone win the J.J. sweepstakes n take the extra picks.
@@David-eh3ht Nabers is an athletic freak no doubt. Just haven't seen route separation like MHJ gets in a long, long time. Can't wrong with either imo, very exciting time to be a Chargers fan!!
@@bekindrewind5247 That's true, but any GM who trades up to 4th for J.J will be sooooooo stupid
its just people having prospect fatigue. nabers will be a stud too but as a michigan fan MHJ is wr1 in this class imo
Was that first play really cover 2? It looked like the corner got back deep while the linebacker came over to cover the hook. Also the strong safety was really shallow, practically in the box. Impressive route nonetheless and probably would’ve still been “NFL” open had it actually been cover 2.
Marv graded the highest in contested catches
The actual contested catch rate stats: Rome Odunze -- 75.0% Malik Nabers -- 45.5% Marvin Harrison Jr. -- 43.3%
This is great stuff
Marvin is hands down a great player and he will be really good
Can we get a mock draft?
You guys think that his 40 means anything? Looks at the gps stats! His comp is devante Adams
How excited would people be if he was Joe Blow from Kokomo? Many have already put him in the Hall. It just seems weird. That being said, hopefully he is that great.
Jerry Rice son is in the draft too and nobody cares so there you go.
Well he’s not from Kokomo, he’s from Ohio State, a school that’s out recruited everyone else at the position, Marv beat out the best of the best to even start as young as he did & he was one of the best players on one of the best offenses in the country.
@@mxfilms9738 so was T.Os son Terique
I feel like everyone is just not considering the season before this. Everyone knew he could’ve been drafted a year ago and would’ve probably been the best wr in the class. This year he had a mid qb that held him back and nabers had the guy who won the heisman. Just wait. MHJ is top 5 as a rookie.
As a titan fan we hoping him or nabers can drop to us #Titanup
He is elite. I expect him to be a star at the NFL level.
Mostly he wouldn’t make some of those catches cause the throws were just off i seen Mcord just not being able to layer an accurate ball most of the time underthown a ton
Steve Smith said it out of his own mouth; he's better than his father
Kinda blew my mind that you didn't mention at all what Cam Hart did to him. Straight shut down. I can tell you this MHJ has a issue with bigger CB who are physical and press. All his plays come from OFF coverage. College CBs hardly press.
I hope the Cardinals pick up MHJ…but you’re right he is over hyped. Go watch Larry Fitzgerald’s tape from Pitt as a reference point, Fitz was on another level.
Without watching the video…..yes
I like MHJ, but people using "bloodline" as a reason hes gonna be good are ridiculous...
I get that. But it’s not exactly the bloodline more as it’s his dad has been there and done that so he’s had this NFL legend basically grooming him since he was a child. There’s a reason he’s so technically sound at that size.
Kadarius Toney still makes guys miss, he just drops too many passes lol. Making people miss is absolutely a trait to look for in a WR.
MHJ is going to look good in that Colts blue.
Tough catches isn’t his game? Nobody makes better tough catches than he does. That’s most of his highlights.
Actual contested catch rate stats: Rome Odunze -- 75.0% Malik Nabers -- 45.5% Marvin Harrison Jr. -- 43.3%
So he has a high ceiling and the highest floor.
Where as someone like Ja’Marr Chase had a lower floor than MHJ but a higher ceiling than we’ve seen in in a long time.
Can a prospect have a generationally high floor?
I think of MHJ as can't-miss but not generational.
Yes.
Definitely not elite, should probably fall to pick 7 😏
Lmao nabers just solidified a mid season getting drafted by the giants
Can be great. Great Routes, average speed and average acceleration, doesn’t break tackles. Has trouble separating from fast athletic corners. Lacks some play strength. Overhyped definitely. Still very good. I feel he lacks elite athleticism. As a prospect I would rate him below Calvin Johnson, Julio Jones, AJ Green, Jamarr Chase. Not a generational prospect in my opinion. Drake London/ Ceedee Lamb with better change of direction.
Shows 1 play for over a minute against Indiana CB literally with the worst hip work I’ve ever seen, turned inside then did a 360°, that’s not MHJ that’s just and
I don't see any flash plays. Just routine routes.
I think Nabers will be the best WR in this class.
I agree
It well be close but Marvin size is elite
congrats lol
@@JordanR34948he’s the same size as BT JR. , but slower! 😂
@@Tiger4life1965 Marvin bigger 6’3
If I'm the Patriots I'm drafting him at 3 instead of grabbing the third QB.
Is he going to throw the ball to himself?
Do you save more with a QB or a WR on a rookie deal
QBs start to peak at 29
WRs drop off a cliff at 29
Straight up would you take JJ over Mahomes ?
Look at what Stroud did for the Texans last season
What's the biggest improvement a great WR ever made in a teams W/L record ?
@@paulsansonetti7410 You are taking a huge gamble on the third QB this year. Do a proper tanking and try next year.
@@sld1776 but Mayo is t going to want to tank just to get a good one
Who goes two Maye or Daniels ?
@@paulsansonetti7410 I think it will be Maye, but could definitely see it being Daniels. I think Maye reminds me a lot of Jordan love, but you have to like the athleticism Daniels has
@@justinrenaud4818 I think you take whoever is left unless you see something you see as a complete deal breaker
Ten of the last 11 SBs at least one QB was on his rookie scale deal
And look how many drafts the best QB wasn't the first taken
If I'm NE ,I'm take a QB,even McCarthy,they've had great luck with Michigan QBs
The only issue is if they dont put enough around him to be sure if he's a guy or not
Brian Thomas Jr. Will probably be better. Malik Nabers will definitely be better.
Nabers is better IMO
If his name wasn't Marvin Harrison jr we wouldn't even be talking about him, his name is the only thing that's great about him, 3yrs under a program that plays soft teams all year until Michigan, what was his numbers against Michigan, it wasn't shit, you know why? It's hype, we all in shock n all over a name of a great player son, if he would've put those numbers up in the sec then I'd respect that and I'm not talking that one game against Georgia, I mean all year cause we all know the sec 6 place team is better than our number 3 team in big 10
I would call you a stupid fuck because you’re just wrong. And I know this is rage bait but Jesus Christ. 5 catches and 118 yards with a tug against Michigan this year. YOU don’t know ball.
Where did Brendan rice go on the draft?
"Nobody is more consistent."
Malik Nabers is consistently better than Marvin Harrison Jr.
He looks like a draft bust
Nabers looks like bust
Odunze is going to end up being the best out of the 3. Just watch
Nabers better
Brian Thomas Jr is better than Marvin Harrison Jr, but.. 🤷♀️