I heard about the Mountain Storm Shell Prepper thru fladermouse and I picked one up. With little effort and some practice I was working the shells easily and now....well you know what comes next. The range to test them out. Another great execution of American innovation. Thanks for sharing your invention with us.
oh and captn obvious wanted me to say... if you decide to go with accuracy over punch and I keep using the shot you dump out and remelt into slugs you'll get 2 freebie slugs for every 16 vs 1 on the 1 oz. just food for thought. that 1/8 of an oz extra in them clay shots is Purdy sweet that way!
@@m1cajah it could be used as both depending on what you are loading. In this case it would be a filler so the slug wouldn't slide in the hull once loaded.
I've been thinkin of cotton balls mixed with petroleum jelly inside a molotov cocktail. Small fireballs bouncing from initial cookoff. Sounds interesting. But the thing you said works too...
For those with mixed past times, I bet with a 3d printer you could print a bunch of spacers that slip right in there and not have to cut the foam board. For that matter, could also likely design a press to line up and seat the slug. I was already wondering if I could make a 3d model for that shell trimmer you have there.
Kind of defeats the purpose to use a multiple thousand dollar contraption to do what a pair of scissors you already have can do for next to nothing , and need specialized supplies for something that can be found in the trash
@@beavisroadhog9629 you can got a decent one for like 200 bucks. it's actually a really useful tool for any firearm guy or tinkerer in general. But it is an investment and if you just use it for making shotgun spacers...well yeah its not smart.
Might I suggest using an appropriately sized hole/hollow punch (the cylindrical type, used with a hammer) to punch out the foam board cut-outs? It seems it would save quite a bit of time and effort, especially for those no longer able to comfortably use scissors, for something so small and tedious. :)
I would like to add a piece of learned info. The easiest, cheapest, and best way to do this properly is to put a couple of nitro cards in the shell before you push the slug in. They sell a bag of 500 nitro cards for ~9 bucks over at MidwayUSA which work flawlessly. They are very firm, looks like masonite material. You will need a smaller size to fit in the cup which is designed for shot. The BPI 20 gauge .125 nitro cards fit perfectly in the 12 gauge shot cup. Two cards, one 7/8 oz. slug, flush fit.
I just switched powder so instead of 34 grains of HS-6 with a Lee 1 ounce slug I just use my trap load 18.5 grains Red Dot meant for 1-1/8 ounce shot but with the 1 ounce slug. It leaves more space so the petals just push down in at an angle & then they stay there pushing against the slug nice & tight but at an angle. That lets you see the slug-no mistaking it for a regular shot shell. No extra time & no problem with the petals opening up over time like I've had happen when I've done it the standard way..
Thanks for the great tip, was curious why you don't just cut the casing down far enough for a proper fit ? That way you could load several more rounds into a tube fed magazine.
@Oregon Patriot point me to a forum that they didn’t prove that it was user error though lol. They’re fun, but it’s just like any aspect of shooting. You don’t do your part and you’ll pay for it.
drip some resin into the shell bonding the shot together. you can also use flex al paint. slowly drip it into the shell around the shot until filled up allow to dry. you have a rock hard weighted slug. because it's a hardened rubber when dry, I cut the top off, fill the shell, let dry and you are ready to go. it's quick, simple, and it WORKS. a 3/4 inch plywood is like a paper target.
While I don't currently own shotguns, I am always interested in reloading. Why wouldn't you use standard fiber wads for the spacers? No glue or PP melting in your bore.
I’ve seen a lot of these kinds of videos trying to convert cheap target loads into something more effective there’s this, waxed slugs, cut shells and I’m sure other ideas floating around. They all have the same issue if they start life as a target load they are grossly under powered. If you start with something like a turkey, goose, or buck shot load to get the proper power charge they cost as much as a slug. In the long run it’s cheaper, more far more reliable and effective to simply load your own shells. Don’t half ass it and buy cheap target loads and make some form of jurry rigged slugs. Either make them right or spend the money and buy shells someone else made the right way. Target loads use 18-19.5 grains slugs use 42-45 grains depending on the power used when loading or the manufacture your buying from any way you cut it that’s less than half of the proper power charge.
Bird shot isn't a target load. And it's still a lot cheaper than slugs. But I agree in principle. Which is why you take the powder out and recount, and add in your own powder to make up the difference. Really, it's the primers you can't get right now. Powder is cheap, and so is lead.
In taking a crack at this myself, I've discovered that using a 3/4" hole saw in your card material will result in plugs approx 5/8" in diameter. They fit great and you can layer up your sheets and chuck em in your hand drill or drill press and really hammer em out. You'll want to remove the pilot drill bit from the hole saw as to keep the cards in one solid piece. I personally use cork underlayment from the flooring section of the hardware store, but cardboard has worked very well for me as well. I have achieved exceptional accuracy out of these lee 7/8 oz slugs in target loads.
Maybe I'm just old but I remember taking deer with a simple cut shell. For those of you who likely have no idea what that is it's exactly as it sounds. !!Never use one in a semi auto it might explode!!
For those that don’t have the opportunity to prep slugs before hand a cut shell in the field can work. Not as effective as a true slug but in a pinch inside 70y or so I’d definitely take a shot with it. May have a more effective range but I get mixed results at 100y
@@hailtothe_rooster1572 Sounds reasonable. I've honestly never tried to take one that far away.. I'll say 40-50 yards max.. But I'm happy at least a couple folks have been taught some older "hacks".
Has anyone tried using the cut out crimp as a spacer beneath the slug? They seem to space almost perfectly with 1 oz lee slugs an Winchester target loads.
I found a simpler and easier way to convert birdshot to wax slug. Simply inject hot wax from top of the shell using a syringe. This works great. Don’t need to cut or crimp. You can do whole box in few minutes.
You can take a 7/8th inch hole saw don't put the center drill bit in the hole saw chuck. Then take a Dremel tool with the hole saw and grind away the hole saws teeth and put an angle on it that that is sharp enough to cut paper. Then simply put the foam board or or whatever material you want as filler under the newly made cutter and it will make short work of it. P.S. 3/4 inch hoke saw done the same way works for 20 ga shells.
buying birdshot and converting it to slogs has been the best thing I've ever found cost me $40 for the shotgun slug mold and considering I pay $30 for 10 slugs it's paid for itself almost immediately
Brother I'm here cause I had the same idea but! Epoxy into the bird shot to make on chunk I know I would need to remove the shot and coat the side with wax paper so the epoxy doesn't stick to the walls of the shell
It really gets into your body if you eat, drink, or smoke during or after handling lead. Melting down is a little different, but adequate ventilation can fix that. If you in a workspace where there's a lot of lead, just assume everything is contaminated and wash your hands after touching anything in there.
I've been making wax loads for about 15 years now and they work amazing. They shooting them out of one of my Mossberg 500 for about 10 years and the wax will pick up any residue or debris left in the barrel from other loads works very well haven't had to clean my shotgun in years just as an experiment and it's still shoots true to this day! My smooth bore and rifled barrel
Just add paraffin wax to the bird shot boom instant slug. No need to melt metal just wax. Candles or crayons at 110 degrees through 120. This will melt the wax and not the plastic shell also works with old paper shells. Been making these for years
I really hope you see this ....have you ever tried using higher velocity birdshot turned into a slug in the same shotshell? I ask because I wonder if it would be dangerous because of varying pressures I'm not familiar with reloading but I'm interested in these trying these slugs
Notice he didn’t demonstrate shooting them. I’m highly suspect that the accuracy would be horrible. Also you really shouldn’t drastically change the weight of the load without checking to see if the powder charge was safe. You could easily stick a load in the barrel and the blow the barrel up with the next shot.
Unrifled Slugs aren’t accurate to begin with, and that’s not going to blow up the barrel, blanks use just as much powder.. dont post something if you dont know what your talking about, guns dont just blow up unless you load the wrong type of powder in and or too much powder
@@DavidEdwardBurry guns can blow up because a bullet, slug, or shot and wad get left in the barrel because the charge was too light. It’s called a squib. Then when the next cartridge or shell is fired it causes an over pressure and the barrel blows up. There are lots of examples right here on TH-cam. Don’t post stuff you apparently know nothing about dumbass.
@@BigTexMan how will the slug get stuck if it’s a lighter weight than the original load? You’re just a sad and mad old man and you’re probably a democrat seeing how pissed you’ve gotten after a simple youtube comment
Question .690 round ball weighs 495 grains, I would like to cut the nose to a flat tip reducing weight to 485 grains. Is it possible to reload a 1 1/8 ounce birdshot shell with a 690 round ball?
I see you are one of the many that still think hi brass shells have more strength than the low brass... well it's nothing but a myth! Educate yourself... www.thereloadersnetwork.com/2018/10/26/ending-the-high-brass-low-brass-shotshell-strength-debate/
Shotguns are perfect for SHTF scenarios because of what's required to reload a shotshell. Shotshells can be reloaded with both smokeless powder and black powder (black powder is extremely easy to make, unlike smokeless powder). 209 primers can easily be remade using armstrongs mix, flash powder or paper snapcaps. The slug can be held in with a little melted hot glue from a glue stick and a lighter or match. Most bullets require smokeless powder to reload which can be difficult to obtain in SHTF scenarios (with the exception of a few bullets such as 45 long colt which can also be reloaded with black powder). Smokeless powder can not easily be made (unlike black powder which is simple to make). Shotshells are used for both hunting and defense scenarios (as well as on the battlefield). If all else fails, the plastic hull can be trimmed off and the brass bottom of the shotshell (with a loaded 209 primer) can be loaded in a shotgun allowing the barrel of the shotgun to be loaded and operated like a muzzleloader. You can't say the same for regular rifles. If this process of reloading shotshells is to complicated, just use the shotshell as a cutshell. There are plent of places on youtube and google that show how to turn any shotshell into a cutshell (or cut shell). It allows any type of shotshell (including target shot) to be used as a slug (without the possibility of reloading the shotshell). Sincerely, Jacob SurvivalGeek (TH-cam) th-cam.com/channels/fRsUPToBXp4ZIre__dJg4A.html
Jesse Urban I am not sure your background. However I have seen combat over two campaign's.I was also a arms and DT instructor. I would say you are 100% incorrect.
What type of choke would you have to use so that you wont damage your barrel? Currently I have a full choke on mine and Im interested in casting these slugs from my bird shot shells. Thanks in advance for yalls help.
The shells he’s using from the factory have 1 1/8 oz weight on the shot. So no it won’t be going slower. If anything it will be going a hell of a lot faster. I know this because I use the same shotshells for clay pigeons.
2:35 NO NO NO! Do not do that. That foam compresses , not safe, and will leave garbage smears down the barrel also extremely hard to remove and not safe.
I purchased one of the shell prepper tools, and it works great! I've only used it on the el cheapo Federal Wal-mart bulk packs you find for $20. Does anyone have any experience with the Winchester bulk pack shells? Does one or the other work better or is it a draw?
+Ca Jones Go with Federal. I don't like the Win GP Target Loads because the plastic is softer and the crimp is usually a touch deeper and the low "brass" rusts easily. I test my tool on Win GP because if it opens them it will open Federal or Remington or any other bulk target load easily.
Can reload 12ga with almost no tools. Punch out spent primer w/ nail. Press in new primer with simple hand tool available on E Bay. Check if fired hulls will chamber in your shotgun. If not resize brass base ...I use Lachmiller shell saver.
Shouldn't you adjust the charge to compensate for the weight of the slug? I'm not sure those would be very effective. They'll work but I doubt you get that same energy.
UV-cured acrylic, in a syringe. Just jab into the top, fill 'er up, then hit it with the UV (this works really well with clear casings). Within 45 seconds, you have a super hard chunk of bird shot bound in a cylinder of acrylic.
Who else is watching this in 2021 during the ammo gouge?
Of course. Knowledge is power....
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Question is do we do this or just use “cut-shells”
Me .
All I have to do now is find target shot shells. There is nothing around here.
If you have a 3/4" or 7/8" gasket punch, you could make those foam spacers quick and easy.
I heard about the Mountain Storm Shell Prepper thru fladermouse and I picked one up. With little effort and some practice I was working the shells easily and now....well you know what comes next. The range to test them out. Another great execution of American innovation. Thanks for sharing your invention with us.
Hey brother. Great video. Tip, never film into a window the Autogain will adjust to the exterior superior light and crush your foreground
Exactly what I'm looking for, converting target loads into 1oz slugs. Aweaome
oh and captn obvious wanted me to say... if you decide to go with accuracy over punch and I keep using the shot you dump out and remelt into slugs you'll get 2 freebie slugs for every 16 vs 1 on the 1 oz. just food for thought. that 1/8 of an oz extra in them clay shots is Purdy sweet that way!
Use the brass from an old high brass shell as a disk cutter for the foam.
nice. I tried this and they work great. instead of the foam wad I just put the cut piece of plastic back on top and it holds well!
That's actually a great idea!
Best idea going! Cheers!
How accurate
You may want to consider using a cotton ball for the filler instead of cutting cards.
As just a cushion wad, or to replace the over powder wad as well? Cause that’s actually brilliant and will start doing that in my black powder shells.
@@m1cajah it could be used as both depending on what you are loading. In this case it would be a filler so the slug wouldn't slide in the hull once loaded.
Smart!!
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I've been thinkin of cotton balls mixed with petroleum jelly inside a molotov cocktail. Small fireballs bouncing from initial cookoff. Sounds interesting. But the thing you said works too...
For those with mixed past times, I bet with a 3d printer you could print a bunch of spacers that slip right in there and not have to cut the foam board. For that matter, could also likely design a press to line up and seat the slug. I was already wondering if I could make a 3d model for that shell trimmer you have there.
The wood is his homeade tool cuts the plastic perfect
Kind of defeats the purpose to use a multiple thousand dollar contraption to do what a pair of scissors you already have can do for next to nothing , and need specialized supplies for something that can be found in the trash
@@beavisroadhog9629 you can got a decent one for like 200 bucks. it's actually a really useful tool for any firearm guy or tinkerer in general. But it is an investment and if you just use it for making shotgun spacers...well yeah its not smart.
I’ll be trying this with 410. Right now can’t get 410 other than bird shot, so time to modify.
Did you try a wax slug or hot glue version for your 410 bird shot? . I found a box of five slugs for $7.29 so looking for alternatives
Add birds hot under slug for spacer. Buckshot maby
Might I suggest using an appropriately sized hole/hollow punch (the cylindrical type, used with a hammer) to punch out the foam board cut-outs? It seems it would save quite a bit of time and effort, especially for those no longer able to comfortably use scissors, for something so small and tedious. :)
Pretty innovative, but my first thought as I’m watching your vid is that I would try a cotton ball. It would be way quicker.
I would like to add a piece of learned info. The easiest, cheapest, and best way to do this properly is to put a couple of nitro cards in the shell before you push the slug in. They sell a bag of 500 nitro cards for ~9 bucks over at MidwayUSA which work flawlessly. They are very firm, looks like masonite material. You will need a smaller size to fit in the cup which is designed for shot. The BPI 20 gauge .125 nitro cards fit perfectly in the 12 gauge shot cup. Two cards, one 7/8 oz. slug, flush fit.
+Ca Jones Good info.
I just switched powder so instead of 34 grains of HS-6 with a Lee 1 ounce slug I just use my trap load 18.5 grains Red Dot meant for 1-1/8 ounce shot but with the 1 ounce slug. It leaves more space so the petals just push down in at an angle & then they stay there pushing against the slug nice & tight but at an angle. That lets you see the slug-no mistaking it for a regular shot shell. No extra time & no problem with the petals opening up over time like I've had happen when I've done it the standard way..
this great, now I know what to do with all my 12 ga. bird shot I bought during o'bummers reign...
I'd try one first and fire it before doing more.
Hahaha. I thought I was the only one who called him O'bummer.
@@BigD-jc6rj Obozo is a classic too
I call him Barrack Osama
Bought a Lee mold on eBay for $40 shipping included! - this is very simple and works great!!!
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A size 15 socket makes a nice round
There is no such thing as a size 15 socket.
@@Freeknickers24 15mm
@@donaldsteele6276 bruh what the hell is he thinking? 😂
@@Freeknickers24 how to say you don't have man skills without saying you dont have man skills
Try a 3/4" hole punch...and punch out disks from cereal boxes, pasta boxes, anything stiff. Stack'em up as needed!
I did this and it works amazingly
There is room enough to put a few peices of buckshot behind the slug. You could also melt down old fishing sinkers or tire balancing weights.
Amazon and most craft stores carry paper punches im 5/8 and 3/4 dia
And a bunch of other sizes too.
@John Beige These are like a regular paper punch. Not one you hit with a hammer. But whatever clicks your trigger.
3:00 OH NO! Now I can never look at shotgun slugs the same way.
Thanks for the great tip, was curious why you don't just cut the casing down far enough for a proper fit ? That way you could load several more rounds into a tube fed magazine.
Because the way he cut the top, it left a lip. If you were to cut the side of the shell there would be no lip to help retain the slug.
@@ottokiehl5413 Thank you!
Usable sure.....ish. I mean....it's definitely not like the powder charge between a slug and birdshot are different or anything.
@Oregon Patriot I mean ... people have been doing this successfully for years...
@Oregon Patriot point me to a forum that they didn’t prove that it was user error though lol. They’re fun, but it’s just like any aspect of shooting. You don’t do your part and you’ll pay for it.
@Oregon Patriot instead of refuting my point, you choose to cast insults based on perceived notions? Yep, I’m totally the liberal here.
I wonder what would happen if you added thin epoxy to the birdshot while still in the tube?
I have poured hot wax into 7 1/2 clay shells and it worked great
Wax is fine because it releases from the shell but I would be hesitant to use any sort of epoxy or glue for fear that you've just created a small bomb
Definitely no epoxy I couldn't imagine that would turn out good
drip some resin into the shell bonding the shot together. you can also use flex al paint. slowly drip it into the shell around the shot until filled up allow to dry. you have a rock hard weighted slug. because it's a hardened rubber when dry, I cut the top off, fill the shell, let dry and you are ready to go. it's quick, simple, and it WORKS. a 3/4 inch plywood is like a paper target.
Make as many as you can man . Gold mine right there!
While I don't currently own shotguns, I am always interested in reloading. Why wouldn't you use standard fiber wads for the spacers? No glue or PP melting in your bore.
I’ve seen a lot of these kinds of videos trying to convert cheap target loads into something more effective there’s this, waxed slugs, cut shells and I’m sure other ideas floating around. They all have the same issue if they start life as a target load they are grossly under powered. If you start with something like a turkey, goose, or buck shot load to get the proper power charge they cost as much as a slug. In the long run it’s cheaper, more far more reliable and effective to simply load your own shells. Don’t half ass it and buy cheap target loads and make some form of jurry rigged slugs. Either make them right or spend the money and buy shells someone else made the right way. Target loads use 18-19.5 grains slugs use 42-45 grains depending on the power used when loading or the manufacture your buying from any way you cut it that’s less than half of the proper power charge.
Bird shot isn't a target load. And it's still a lot cheaper than slugs.
But I agree in principle.
Which is why you take the powder out and recount, and add in your own powder to make up the difference.
Really, it's the primers you can't get right now.
Powder is cheap, and so is lead.
In taking a crack at this myself, I've discovered that using a 3/4" hole saw in your card material will result in plugs approx 5/8" in diameter. They fit great and you can layer up your sheets and chuck em in your hand drill or drill press and really hammer em out. You'll want to remove the pilot drill bit from the hole saw as to keep the cards in one solid piece.
I personally use cork underlayment from the flooring section of the hardware store, but cardboard has worked very well for me as well. I have achieved exceptional accuracy out of these lee 7/8 oz slugs in target loads.
A low brass slug!!! Man slugs are already nasty but when you slow one down its got to be like a sledge hammer.
Exactly what I was thinking! Maybe like some one throwing a rock. Guess I will lookup a video of someone shooting a low brass lee slug, now!!
This is one of the best firearm videos I’ve seen. I’m about to have 1000 slugs! Fuck yes!!!!!!!!!
I make ballistic tipped rounds with small fins that fit nice . You can add thermite to a hollowed one .
Maybe I'm just old but I remember taking deer with a simple cut shell. For those of you who likely have no idea what that is it's exactly as it sounds. !!Never use one in a semi auto it might explode!!
For those that don’t have the opportunity to prep slugs before hand a cut shell in the field can work. Not as effective as a true slug but in a pinch inside 70y or so I’d definitely take a shot with it. May have a more effective range but I get mixed results at 100y
@@hailtothe_rooster1572 Sounds reasonable. I've honestly never tried to take one that far away.. I'll say 40-50 yards max.. But I'm happy at least a couple folks have been taught some older "hacks".
Exactly..such homemade shells,you can only use safe in a doublebarrel or Singlebarrel.....
Has anyone tried using the cut out crimp as a spacer beneath the slug? They seem to space almost perfectly with 1 oz lee slugs an Winchester target loads.
I found a simpler and easier way to convert birdshot to wax slug.
Simply inject hot wax from top of the shell using a syringe. This works great. Don’t need to cut or crimp. You can do whole box in few minutes.
You can take a 7/8th inch hole saw don't put the center drill bit in the hole saw chuck. Then take a Dremel tool with the hole saw and grind away the hole saws teeth and put an angle on it that that is sharp enough to cut paper. Then simply put the foam board or or whatever material you want as filler under the newly made cutter and it will make short work of it. P.S. 3/4 inch hoke saw done the same way works for 20 ga shells.
buying birdshot and converting it to slogs has been the best thing I've ever found cost me $40 for the shotgun slug mold and considering I pay $30 for 10 slugs it's paid for itself almost immediately
This channel is where the newbie shotgun reloaders Go to learn things in a slightly hap hazard way
Wonder if you could do this with a 12 gauge round ball
Brother I'm here cause I had the same idea but! Epoxy into the bird shot to make on chunk I know I would need to remove the shot and coat the side with wax paper so the epoxy doesn't stick to the walls of the shell
A lot of people seem relaxed about handling lead. That stuff gets into your body. Be safe friends
Yes. Use gloves. Definitely.
Mad Hatter
@@bigwooly8014 l wrote a long reply and lost it. You are not quite right friend.
It really gets into your body if you eat, drink, or smoke during or after handling lead. Melting down is a little different, but adequate ventilation can fix that. If you in a workspace where there's a lot of lead, just assume everything is contaminated and wash your hands after touching anything in there.
@@Jamesnebula Fair enough. Deleted comment out of abundance of caution.
Pretty awesome. Will have to try this.
I just saw this and believe this is the answer to my problem for 12 gage shells. Can't find em make em!
Melt the bird shot,
pour into a 16 mm 12 point socket.
Cool and punch out.
Install in origional shot cup.
Recrimp
Shoot.
Imlo
I’ve made slugs with birdshot before but after I cut the top off I just melted a crayon into the bbs .
I was also expecting him to wax it.
I've been making wax loads for about 15 years now and they work amazing. They shooting them out of one of my Mossberg 500 for about 10 years and the wax will pick up any residue or debris left in the barrel from other loads works very well haven't had to clean my shotgun in years just as an experiment and it's still shoots true to this day! My smooth bore and rifled barrel
@@jameskennedy1034 When you say wax loads,do you mean that rather than crimping the shell you sealed the end with wax so the slug stays in place?
@@ciphercode2298 yes absolutely I had a tool to print the end but lost it and simply waxing the end of works as well
@@jameskennedy1034 awesome,thank you. May give this a try.
Is there any safety concerns in using a 1oz shot shell to make 7/8 slug?
Smart idea. You could do this to make buck shot also
My go to still.
I wonder what velocity you get? & effects on target? Send some to Paul Harrell.
Whole lot easier to just make cut shells, we call em poor boy slugs!
Just add paraffin wax to the bird shot boom instant slug. No need to melt metal just wax. Candles or crayons at 110 degrees through 120. This will melt the wax and not the plastic shell also works with old paper shells. Been making these for years
If you put the piece of crimp you cut out under the slug you wont have to do the foam board. Zero waste too.
You can also ring a birdsong and make a slug out it
Why not use the shot cup to make the spacer? Makes more sense to me than doing all the extra putzing.
Another fun round to load is 7/8 oz shot of daisy bbs
I really hope you see this ....have you ever tried using higher velocity birdshot turned into a slug in the same shotshell? I ask because I wonder if it would be dangerous because of varying pressures I'm not familiar with reloading but I'm interested in these trying these slugs
Mass is the same.
Notice he didn’t demonstrate shooting them. I’m highly suspect that the accuracy would be horrible. Also you really shouldn’t drastically change the weight of the load without checking to see if the powder charge was safe. You could easily stick a load in the barrel and the blow the barrel up with the next shot.
Unrifled Slugs aren’t accurate to begin with, and that’s not going to blow up the barrel, blanks use just as much powder.. dont post something if you dont know what your talking about, guns dont just blow up unless you load the wrong type of powder in and or too much powder
@@DavidEdwardBurry guns can blow up because a bullet, slug, or shot and wad get left in the barrel because the charge was too light. It’s called a squib. Then when the next cartridge or shell is fired it causes an over pressure and the barrel blows up. There are lots of examples right here on TH-cam.
Don’t post stuff you apparently know nothing about dumbass.
@@BigTexMan how will the slug get stuck if it’s a lighter weight than the original load? You’re just a sad and mad old man and you’re probably a democrat seeing how pissed you’ve gotten after a simple youtube comment
@@BigTexMan bye bye asshole i got better things to do than to argue with ya
@@DavidEdwardBurry takes a GOP say such crazy things
Question .690 round ball weighs 495 grains, I would like to cut the nose to a flat tip reducing weight to 485 grains. Is it possible to reload a 1 1/8 ounce birdshot shell with a 690 round ball?
Rather than capping the slug off with hot glue, just dribble a stream of Elmers wood glue between the slug and the casing. Much easier and cheaper.
Ah...can that low brass charge power that slug?
He said they're 7/8 slugs, they weigh a quarter ounce lighter than the original load, so yeah, the low brass can push it
I see you are one of the many that still think hi brass shells have more strength than the low brass... well it's nothing but a myth! Educate yourself...
www.thereloadersnetwork.com/2018/10/26/ending-the-high-brass-low-brass-shotshell-strength-debate/
You don't need to buy lee mold, you use a 15mm socket as a mold. If not, 16-17mm socket should be good.
smart
Hole punch and arbor press.
Have you tried a little Acra Glas on the bird shot?
Went from wax slugs to caster reloader, just buy some primers, a roll crimp, hulls and wads cc dippers and a hand loader.
Have you ever heard of "Felt Wads" you just slice it with a sharp blade any size you want .
ever try a 35 dollar roll crimper?
Actually, you can get a nylon electric-drill type roll crimper for $15.00. I have one. Takes a few minutes of practice, but it works just fine.
ComocosonoEWL if you are in this for SHTF, I think a shotgun slug is the wrong route to go entirely anyway
Shotguns are perfect for SHTF scenarios because of what's required to reload a shotshell. Shotshells can be reloaded with both smokeless powder and black powder (black powder is extremely easy to make, unlike smokeless powder). 209 primers can easily be remade using armstrongs mix, flash powder or paper snapcaps. The slug can be held in with a little melted hot glue from a glue stick and a lighter or match.
Most bullets require smokeless powder to reload which can be difficult to obtain in SHTF scenarios (with the exception of a few bullets such as 45 long colt which can also be reloaded with black powder). Smokeless powder can not easily be made (unlike black powder which is simple to make).
Shotshells are used for both hunting and defense scenarios (as well as on the battlefield).
If all else fails, the plastic hull can be trimmed off and the brass bottom of the shotshell (with a loaded 209 primer) can be loaded in a shotgun allowing the barrel of the shotgun to be loaded and operated like a muzzleloader. You can't say the same for regular rifles.
If this process of reloading shotshells is to complicated, just use the shotshell as a cutshell. There are plent of places on youtube and google that show how to turn any shotshell into a cutshell (or cut shell). It allows any type of shotshell (including target shot) to be used as a slug (without the possibility of reloading the shotshell).
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Jacob
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Jesse Urban I am not sure your background. However I have seen combat over two campaign's.I was also a arms and DT instructor. I would say you are 100% incorrect.
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Is this nylon roll crimper still available and what is the name, or brand of the nylon crimper
Will these shoot good in a rifled slug barrel?
U can pour wax over the load. Old school hunter style
I need to make a custom multi hole punch or something
I been doing this for years and years... Get a roll crimp.. it's going to make your target acquisition much better.
use a better wad btw
What type of choke would you have to use so that you wont damage your barrel? Currently I have a full choke on mine and Im interested in casting these slugs from my bird shot shells. Thanks in advance for yalls help.
Pushing a 7/8 oz slug down range with a standard power load? Are these things moving right along at a whopping 100 fps?
The shells he’s using from the factory have 1 1/8 oz weight on the shot. So no it won’t be going slower. If anything it will be going a hell of a lot faster. I know this because I use the same shotshells for clay pigeons.
Powerful load i think ⚡
2:35 NO NO NO! Do not do that. That foam compresses , not safe, and will leave garbage smears down the barrel also extremely hard to remove and not safe.
would the leeshot gun mold be ok for making slugs out of lead bullets from the range
How about using split shot fishing sinkers for buckshot..?
if its like that easy why we paying very extra per rounds?
Because they know they can suck more money out of hunters who only shoot a couple shots a season
They don't sell that many slugs so they charge more
The real question is how you turned target shot into a slug
He says right at the start and again at the end. Cheap mould, melt the birdshot into the mould.
I emailed you and never got a response. Assuming you went underground
Biden scares him.
If you go to track of the Wolf.com you can order 12ga. Wads for 1o.oo for 500 in different sizes or thickneeses
I purchased one of the shell prepper tools, and it works great! I've only used it on the el cheapo Federal Wal-mart bulk packs you find for $20. Does anyone have any experience with the Winchester bulk pack shells? Does one or the other work better or is it a draw?
+Ca Jones Go with Federal. I don't like the Win GP Target Loads because the plastic is softer and the crimp is usually a touch deeper and the low "brass" rusts easily. I test my tool on Win GP because if it opens them it will open Federal or Remington or any other bulk target load easily.
instead of cutting cardboard i use a cotton ball under the slug
You should get you a five eights inch die that’s hollow that you just hammer to cut those homemade nitro cards with
Is there any kind of danger of having the slug misaligned in the cartridge and feeding into the barrel at an improper angle?
Yes. If you're not comfortable with reloading, it's probably not for you.
Thanks,I am looking to reload 12 ga with as few tools as possible.
Can reload 12ga with almost no tools. Punch out spent primer w/ nail. Press in new primer with simple hand tool available on E Bay. Check if fired hulls will chamber in your shotgun. If not resize brass base ...I use Lachmiller shell saver.
Shouldn't you adjust the charge to compensate for the weight of the slug? I'm not sure those would be very effective. They'll work but I doubt you get that same energy.
Can you dip lead casted buckshot or slugs in melted zinc for a jacket?
Not a good idea. Rather get a cheap lee loadall. I shoot 1oz slugs at 1500 fps. To load these is cheaper and better that changing shot to slug.
Just bind the bird shot into a slug with super glue, waaaaay less messing around.
UV-cured acrylic, in a syringe. Just jab into the top, fill 'er up, then hit it with the UV (this works really well with clear casings). Within 45 seconds, you have a super hard chunk of bird shot bound in a cylinder of acrylic.
Flys like a can of soup
This video is great but you should at least test the shot than just showing how to make it.
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Use a Punch on that poster board
Just to verify, clay shot and bird shot the same thing?
Hot glue around the slug and you good 👍
No, pencil "lead" was never lead. It gets the name fromnthe Roman "stylus", which was made of lead.
So therefore it was lead at one time. Like what the fuck? Do you not hear your own thoughts and think oh yeah duh?
Dafuk you think a stylus is?
@@Freeknickers24 "lead", yes. "Pencil", no.
It's okay to disagree though
The change in projectile weight doesn't change the powder charge like in metallic cartridges ?
It's an ounce of small pellets, or an ounce in one big pellet.
Nice how that works out right?
@@jalexwheeler7751 Yep, but I'm pretty sure he said 1 1/8 oz shot cartridge and 7/8 oz slug.
@@effeojnedib7208 Good thing you can buy black powder at the store and add the necessary propellant, IF needed.
Yes it will - a quick study of a reloading manual will show how load weight changes the pressure
@@acbwildlifecontrol3748 Hell at that point, you might be getting extra grains.
It's the primers that are hard to find right now, powder isn't.
I am limited to antiques only if I get an 1880 shotgun could I use plastic shell in them or would I have to make them black powder loads
I doubt it. I think most antique shotuns use reloadable all brass hulls.
I’ll definitely buy a shell cutter from you.
Rip off
Buy a cheap Lee load all fro 50 bucks. Will give a perfect crimp if you make buckshot out of the bird shot instead of slugs
Easier and cheaper is to make it a cut shell.