I agree with John Kirwan when he deplores war for evidently what it is. Therefore, in any competitive sport, typically rugby 🏉, perhaps the best way is to view it as a 'war of attrition', where the side which wears down the opposition, more than it does you, will prevail. NZ to wear down, & wear out, SA! Many thanks for your video 😃. "Mirror mirror on the wall, which side is the best of all; is it black, is it green, we all of us wait for it to be seen!"
…The common denomenator here is RESPECT actual MASSIVE R E S P E C T to both sides Its ABSOLUTELY MASSIVE Cannot describe it any other way THERE CANNOT just CANNOT be a greater Test Match than this one EVER AND on top of ITS A WC FINAL⁉️ ENJOY HAVE ENDLESS FUN The best Team WILL win Question is WHO❓😳 And then there is Wayne Barnes…❓ Good luck to ALL (PSE stay away from cards PLEASE!) 👊🔥🥂🏉💥
Bro the ABS dont respect you. That little wat dance in the beginning masqueraded as a ‘respect’ has nothing to do with rugby. Its a bunch of men who is geeing themselves up to dilute their own fear and angst
JK is one of those who wants the game played a different way. I’m sorry that’s disrespectful to Union . If you’ll don’t get the same thrill from a pushover try or scrum than you do from a fullback cutting the line and dotting down under the posts then please stop slagging the game just because you don’t like it. As a SA fan I remember the iron men of NZ like Richard Low’s, Fitzpatricks, Haymans, who would put an SA pack to the sword. Let the game be the game and honour the variety’s it can deliver. Beat them …. Don’t bitch at them
It’s hard to take JK seriously about this scrum issue. Just a while ago he was against kicking citing SA were kicking too much., then AB’s were kicking so well, in some matches then all of a sudden he no longer complains about kicking…. The NZ scrum is also very good lately, it will be interesting if he will complain about scrums when the AB scrums dominate…
Excellent interview with Kirwan. He was great here compared to the Breakdown show last week. Fabulous feedback and analysis where he was thinking it through before saying it, that is the Kirwan we know and loves, a proud AllBlack and very intelligent man. His one eye support for Ak tend to cloud his judgements at times
You can't dictate a certain style of ruby that should be Refed, both styles of rugby should be allowed to be played, and whatever team pitches up on the day should win.Massive Respect to Both Teams as always and kudos to the team that preform on the day.
I disagree. Just like you can’t bring down mauls and scrums because you don’t have the power, it’s exactly the same with players and teams intentionally showing down the game because they aren’t fit enough and they should be penalised for it, just the same as you would when you bring down a mail because you aren’t powerful enough.
Why sir JK??...on the breakdown he acts like anything but a sir...so cynical when it comes to the Boks when he could be inspiring, encouraging, & uplifting & positive and more worthy of a sir, especially when it comes to such a great spectacle of the two greatest rugby teams in history in a WC final, with 4 wins at stake to boot, and back-2-back wins for the Springboks. He could highlight how awesome this contest is in context, and yet he tends to diminish it - anti Bok sentiments - no sir in my books, at all.
They all a bunch of hypocrites to put it bluntly. Maybe with the exception of Mills. They think they somehow own rugby and talk like they are rugby gods, but are actually a bunch of two faced whinos whose hungover on the McCaw-Carter era. The current day ABs are just a good test team nowadays. They lucky they got an easy run in and could use the WC as a training facility to peak at the right moment. Hopefully that peak will b enough to win. If it happens you should brace yourself because they will be sprouting wings and taking a holy piss on everyone claiming they’ve come so far and start making it all spiritual. The Boks have already won this Cup and the respect of many by playing way more high end tier 1 opposition while the ABS came drifting in on the wind and just managed to win against a ragged Irish side that would most likely have wiped the floor with then if the draws were a bit more balanced. There will be NO real achievement if the ABS win and i hope they will stay humble and realize that their 16th man was the draw
Kirwans favourite remark "is run the big men around". RG Snyman is big but he just replaces the other big tired guy. Kwagga played sevens and he just replaces another tired guy and so on.
Physically, it takes more energy to lug an extra 10kgs around the field (averages of 7km for a forward). It’s just physics bro…and you play to your strengths.
Rugby is not a game just for the backs. The forwards don't train all week just to go and watch the backs play on a Saterday - scrums, line outs, mauls is their sport.
Go out and have fun its going to be a ‘ war of attrition’ with physicality, discipline and no mistakes (brain fart moments, with respect) and YES JK is right Test of ‘STYLES’ to the extreme A massive event Most certainly THÉ one of our Lives this one…‼️👊🔥🥂 ENJOY❗️💫 🏉 🪖
Lol JK saying Hurry up and scrum in 60 seconds don't care if someone breaks thier neck scrum just formally to get ball out in his eyes 😂😂😂 I think JK lost wat is in the spirit of the game. He should consider rugby league he would be lot happier there😂😂 GO BOKKE!
I wish JK and other AB supporters could stop with advocating for a faster game. You guys can play faster, but SA rugby will never play like you guys and we have our own style, so let us be and play to our strong point which is set pieces, accurate kicking and when it matters, play with the back line. There's beauty in scrumming and mauling and the other set-pieces as well! Bok rugby will never change so just stop with it, please!!!!!
JK what you need yo embrace is the contrasting styles is what makes this a great contest... Superrugby has a single style and is in huge trouble. Pick your poison mate..
Teams play to their strengths- don’t buy this nonsense. You can’t dictate how the opposition should play. Jk is talking about another official looking at the scrum, yet he was complaining about TMO’s having too much action in the game.. so how would this official work.. .. Jk should get in touch with Matt Williams and enjoy some wine.
Why? If your scrum is dominating that of the other side, you should get rewarded. A battle within a battle. Rugby is also a game of strength and contact within the rules.
Its not what you like jk its what each nation is intitled to play, i think you should suggest more how you would like it to be , then others can rightly rebut you, you just sound so arrogant and entitled. Congrats to NZ for there sportmanship in there loss
It strange cause Faf was no kicking scrum half when he played for the Lions. I hope the boks get over it is in our DNA to play kicking game. That is the most stupidest comment I have ever heard. We have more than capable players to play running rugby. I must say they played a much better style this world cup than 2019. I guess any style to win the cup but I am happy that Nienaber is going. We need Johan Ackerman for the boks then we will propably destroy NZL every single match.
What BS from the AB pundits..it was pouring with rain in the semis. Boks have played an expansive game for 4 years now, are you phckn dmb & blind. The Boks are not cynical in slowing the game down...the reason WR haven't done anything is because its all in the NZds heads, there is not deliberate & cynical slowing down of the game. 'Sir JK' does not deserve those stripes in my book...
Yeah, you’re wrong, and not kidding anybody. they absolutely do slow play down. Waterboys and medics running on at every scrum or lineout to treat fake injuries like it’s a break in play. It’s not, fuxking pack, line up down and get on with it. I hope Barnes is on to it and tells the Bok staff to get off the field and gets play flowing.
Well said, Kirwan, about war.
I agree with John Kirwan when he deplores war for evidently what it is. Therefore, in any competitive sport, typically rugby 🏉, perhaps the best way is to view it as a 'war of attrition', where the side which wears down the opposition, more than it does you, will prevail. NZ to wear down, & wear out, SA! Many thanks for your video 😃. "Mirror mirror on the wall, which side is the best of all; is it black, is it green, we all of us wait for it to be seen!"
An excellent interview
Sir John this is the best analysis n just that anyone has made . Brilliant .
…The common denomenator here is RESPECT
actual
MASSIVE
R E S P E C T
to both sides
Its ABSOLUTELY MASSIVE
Cannot describe it any other way
THERE CANNOT
just
CANNOT be a greater Test Match than this one EVER
AND
on top of
ITS A WC FINAL⁉️
ENJOY
HAVE ENDLESS FUN
The best Team WILL win
Question is WHO❓😳
And then there is Wayne Barnes…❓
Good luck to ALL
(PSE stay away from cards
PLEASE!)
👊🔥🥂🏉💥
Bro the ABS dont respect you. That little wat dance in the beginning masqueraded as a ‘respect’ has nothing to do with rugby. Its a bunch of men who is geeing themselves up to dilute their own fear and angst
Gee the Platform is the media channel in New Zealand!
JK is one of those who wants the game played a different way. I’m sorry that’s disrespectful to Union . If you’ll don’t get the same thrill from a pushover try or scrum than you do from a fullback cutting the line and dotting down under the posts then please stop slagging the game just because you don’t like it. As a SA fan I remember the iron men of NZ like Richard Low’s, Fitzpatricks, Haymans, who would put an SA pack to the sword. Let the game be the game and honour the variety’s it can deliver. Beat them …. Don’t bitch at them
Truth b told. Getting so tired of this AB rants
It’s hard to take JK seriously about this scrum issue. Just a while ago he was against kicking citing SA were kicking too much., then AB’s were kicking so well, in some matches then all of a sudden he no longer complains about kicking….
The NZ scrum is also very good lately, it will be interesting if he will complain about scrums when the AB scrums dominate…
Excellent interview with Kirwan. He was great here compared to the Breakdown show last week. Fabulous feedback and analysis where he was thinking it through before saying it, that is the Kirwan we know and loves, a proud AllBlack and very intelligent man. His one eye support for Ak tend to cloud his judgements at times
Agree- he and Goldie don’t seem to bring out the best of each other as co-hosts.
You can't dictate a certain style of ruby that should be Refed, both styles of rugby should be allowed to be played, and whatever team pitches up on the day should win.Massive Respect to Both Teams as always and kudos to the team that preform on the day.
I disagree. Just like you can’t bring down mauls and scrums because you don’t have the power, it’s exactly the same with players and teams intentionally showing down the game because they aren’t fit enough and they should be penalised for it, just the same as you would when you bring down a mail because you aren’t powerful enough.
The winner will probably be the team that is less hated by Barnes.
That's NZ cooked,then.
It’s Hammer vs Scalpel on Saturday night
0:19 oh i reckon about 2 or 3 boxes a day, oh you mean the players??😂
Why sir JK??...on the breakdown he acts like anything but a sir...so cynical when it comes to the Boks when he could be inspiring, encouraging, & uplifting & positive and more worthy of a sir, especially when it comes to such a great spectacle of the two greatest rugby teams in history in a WC final, with 4 wins at stake to boot, and back-2-back wins for the Springboks. He could highlight how awesome this contest is in context, and yet he tends to diminish it - anti Bok sentiments - no sir in my books, at all.
They all a bunch of hypocrites to put it bluntly. Maybe with the exception of Mills. They think they somehow own rugby and talk like they are rugby gods, but are actually a bunch of two faced whinos whose hungover on the McCaw-Carter era. The current day ABs are just a good test team nowadays. They lucky they got an easy run in and could use the WC as a training facility to peak at the right moment. Hopefully that peak will b enough to win. If it happens you should brace yourself because they will be sprouting wings and taking a holy piss on everyone claiming they’ve come so far and start making it all spiritual. The Boks have already won this Cup and the respect of many by playing way more high end tier 1 opposition while the ABS came drifting in on the wind and just managed to win against a ragged Irish side that would most likely have wiped the floor with then if the draws were a bit more balanced. There will be NO real achievement if the ABS win and i hope they will stay humble and realize that their 16th man was the draw
🤫 He's a Sir John Kirwan
@@philchris3854not in my books...anything but...what the phck qualifies him a sir!? 😅😂😅😂😅😂
Kirwans favourite remark "is run the big men around". RG Snyman is big but he just replaces the other big tired guy. Kwagga played sevens and he just replaces another tired guy and so on.
Physically, it takes more energy to lug an extra 10kgs around the field (averages of 7km for a forward). It’s just physics bro…and you play to your strengths.
ALL BLACKS WILL WIN 💪🏆💪🏆💪🏆💪🏆
🤣
Rugby is not a game just for the backs. The forwards don't train all week just to go and watch the backs play on a Saterday - scrums, line outs, mauls is their sport.
Go out and have fun
its going to be a ‘
war of attrition’ with physicality, discipline and no mistakes (brain fart moments, with respect)
and
YES JK is right
Test of ‘STYLES’ to the extreme
A massive event
Most certainly THÉ one of our Lives this one…‼️👊🔥🥂
ENJOY❗️💫
🏉
🪖
Lol JK saying Hurry up and scrum in 60 seconds don't care if someone breaks thier neck scrum just formally to get ball out in his eyes 😂😂😂 I think JK lost wat is in the spirit of the game. He should consider rugby league he would be lot happier there😂😂
GO BOKKE!
If you guys dont want to scrum or dont like it, then watch and play rugby league, move away from traditional rugby,
I wish JK and other AB supporters could stop with advocating for a faster game. You guys can play faster, but SA rugby will never play like you guys and we have our own style, so let us be and play to our strong point which is set pieces, accurate kicking and when it matters, play with the back line. There's beauty in scrumming and mauling and the other set-pieces as well! Bok rugby will never change so just stop with it, please!!!!!
It’s the fake injuries, the water, medic and physio intervention. The time wasting. It’s part of your strategy and it’s cynical.
WAYNE BARNES!!!!!!!
JK ....rather not comment on scrums
Scrums not going to work get ball in and out new Zealand got the half back to do that watch out Sa😅😅😅
I wonder if he will ever know who he is.
JK what you need yo embrace is the contrasting styles is what makes this a great contest... Superrugby has a single style and is in huge trouble. Pick your poison mate..
Teams play to their strengths- don’t buy this nonsense. You can’t dictate how the opposition should play. Jk is talking about another official looking at the scrum, yet he was complaining about TMO’s having too much action in the game.. so how would this official work.. .. Jk should get in touch with Matt Williams and enjoy some wine.
Whine yip
We didn't play our game against England they bossed the game for 70min so you pinning England's game on us JK
Love U jk
John Kirwan is a clown. I think that Sir rubbish has got to him.
If they want to keep all these scrum penalties, they should be free kicks only
Why? If your scrum is dominating that of the other side, you should get rewarded. A battle within a battle. Rugby is also a game of strength and contact within the rules.
Its not what you like jk its what each nation is intitled to play, i think you should suggest more how you would like it to be , then others can rightly rebut you, you just sound so arrogant and entitled.
Congrats to NZ for there sportmanship in there loss
It strange cause Faf was no kicking scrum half when he played for the Lions. I hope the boks get over it is in our DNA to play kicking game. That is the most stupidest comment I have ever heard. We have more than capable players to play running rugby. I must say they played a much better style this world cup than 2019. I guess any style to win the cup but I am happy that Nienaber is going. We need Johan Ackerman for the boks then we will propably destroy NZL every single match.
Dont be arrogant
What BS from the AB pundits..it was pouring with rain in the semis. Boks have played an expansive game for 4 years now, are you phckn dmb & blind. The Boks are not cynical in slowing the game down...the reason WR haven't done anything is because its all in the NZds heads, there is not deliberate & cynical slowing down of the game. 'Sir JK' does not deserve those stripes in my book...
Yeah, you’re wrong, and not kidding anybody. they absolutely do slow play down. Waterboys and medics running on at every scrum or lineout to treat fake injuries like it’s a break in play. It’s not, fuxking pack, line up down and get on with it. I hope Barnes is on to it and tells the Bok staff to get off the field and gets play flowing.
@@keza41 no...ure phckn wrong...keep ur prejudicial BS to ur myopic self.
Why come and watch an NZ rugby vid if you’re just going to troll? Keep your kak comments to yourself and go watch some Super Sport FFS!
@@keza41yeah mate how many water boys was on the field in the final then did u check ✔️ if any I saw 🇳🇿 water boys 1st on the field