The Ratt / Queensryche tour that I went to in Biloxi, Mississippi was my first concert, after hearing ‘Take Hold of the Flame’ I went out the next day and purchased the album.
Glad you are giving this album a full listen. Such an underrated album. WAY ahead of its time with the tones, layering and overall sound quality. Majestic!
This album is so good and just gets better with more listens. You and the Jerk need to react to their MTV Unplugged set. It has to be the single most underrated MTV Unplugged performance.
Whoa now hold on.... For Oh you know he might be the jerk It's a musician and a jerk but that doesn't mean one of them is a musician and the other is a jerk He could be both Or even she
I have found that the more I listen to Queensryche songs, the more I change up which songs I like the most. I agree with you that they don't do "filler songs". They were always serious about putting out quality music. I love how they were always incorporating new sounds and aural textures into the musical landscape too! There were always little bits that were surprising and unanticipated. I believe Geoff wrote the lion's share of the lyrics. Chris was a great lyricist too. Michael also contributrd to lyrics. It's always good to have the lyric sheet when listening the first few times, 'cos they have interesting things to say. In "I Dream in Infrared" (which they don't actually say in the song. They say: "I only see in infrared. I can't dream anymore...") there's a line I like a lot: "When you woke this morning, and opened up your eyes, did you notice the tear stains lining your face were mine?". Good stuff! And their compositions are just SO GOOD! They really excel at building the intensity and drama in a song in a very satisfying way. You really FEEL something when listening to them! Loved your take on each song. I like hearing what you, being a musician yourself, noticed about different parts that sometimes escaped me. Yeah, the album covers could have been better, but maybe they just didn't care that much about them. All the creativity went into what was between the covers. Thanks for doing the whole album! I hope you'll squeeze in more QR when you can!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and watching! I love hearing what others have to say about music, especially if they've been listening to it for much longer than I have. We are always able to learn new things from others and simple stuff can be missed because there is always so much happening in each song!
One insight into the sound effects and noises you're hearing is that the album was produced by Neil Kernon, who has a resume that spans everything from 70s pop to prog and even industrial metal.
This is my favorite album. I think it’s because it was the one that got me hooked on Queensryche and every time I hear it, it takes me back to that time in my life. Many great memories. I find myself playing this whole CD the most and rarely skipping a song. 🎶 💕🎶
Glad you reacted to Rage for Order! One of my favorite albums from any artist... About the multiple guitar tracks in songs like Neue Regel, for that tour Geoff played guitar (not too much, basic stuff) to get the sound as close as the record
Yes, he absolutely did use a megaphone when performing live to get that effect on his voice. You can find bootleg footage from those concerts here on youtube
He didn't when I saw them twice on the Rage For Order tour. It was a vocal effect straight from the soundboard. No megaphone here either... th-cam.com/video/wOgqjPY4evo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=hu4J_GI1xKztz1QK
I know operation mindcrime is a classic and held in high regard for good reason, but to me this is their best album. So many bangers, but my favorite is probably screaming in digital, not only does it rock but its very relevant for modern times as far as lyrics. Also love the softness of I will remember, but honestly so many good songs.
Hey just wanted to let you know that IMMINENCE dropped their new album “The Black.” This is how the album is broken down. Pick a song and there are MV and vis….you pick. Songs from album “The Black” MV= Music Video Vis= Visualizer 1. Come Hell or Highwater (MV & Vis) 2. Desolation (MV & Vis) 3. Heaven Shall Burn(MV & Vis) 4. Beyond the Pale (Vis) 5. Come What May (Vis) 6. Death by a Thousand Cuts (MV & Vis) 7. The Call of the Void (Vis) 8. Continuum (MV & Vis) 9. The Black (Vis) Instrumental songs 1. Cul-de-Sac (Vis) 2. L’ appel Du Vide (Vis) 3. Le Noir (Vis) Please feel free to pick a song. This is for the band IMMINENCE from Sweden. The lead singer, Eddie Berg, plays violin at the same time as he sings and screams. This is the storyline of videos that go together. Storyline w/ music videos 1. Come Hell or Highwater 2. Desolation 3. Heaven Shall Burn 4. Death by a Thousand Cuts 5. Continuum No Storyline w/ visualizers 1. Beyond the Pale 2. The Call of the Void 3. Come What May 4. The Black
Sebastian Bach just dropped a killer new album, it’s actually really good. Gives me slave to the grind vibes. You guys should check out his music video he dropped a couple days ago. It’s called Freedom
For Neue Regal live on the Rage For Order tour, the beginning vocal effect came directly from the soundboard. Saw them twice on that tour and both times they opened with Neue Regal. Absolutely outstanding! th-cam.com/video/wOgqjPY4evo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=hu4J_GI1xKztz1QK
It's sorta a shame, that you couldn't see the lyrics for 'London' during your first reaction to it. I've always imagined the story to be referencing Jack the Ripper, but instead of a human the Hunter is actually an immortal vampire. Haunted by the memories of the women, so many victims that he can no longer recall any name to place with the face, and at all times driving by the feral needs for blood and violence.
I did a full reaction to this album too and the songs that became my favorite are "London" and "I Will Remember". This album has no bad songs (except Chemical Youth(We are Rebellion) that is kind of mediocre to me).
This is my favorite album by the Ryche! Fates Warning is another one... HUGE influence on my own vocal work. Check out Fates Warning albums called Parallels and InsideOut. Passionate vocals and phenomenal music... I like the musical compositions even better than Queensryche... Just much more muchy... It's "Muchier" than Ryche.
No "I Dream In Infrared" has no 'endpoint.' It segués, directly, into "The Whisper" ...prior to CDs discrete "start" or "end" points were not necessary or assigned to individual songs, in every case. [Side note: this album is one of the first "DDD" albums (when CDs did arrive & were made commercially viable). Meaning that: while 90-something % of albums were recorded to analog tape (well into the 1990s and even 2000s), this was, instead, recorded to some sort of "digital" media (likely "digital tape" - which doesn't, per se, make sense as: any form of "tape" is analog, by nature. ...but... 🤷🤦), mixed digitally and printed digitally [to a digital format. i.e.: CDs] Albums did not receive a "rating," but if you knew anything about audio technology, when CDs started to share (and, then, take over) the marketplace, in the final few years of the '80s and early years of the '90s), the "DDD" disc was "the highest quality print" you could acquire. They were also quite rare most studios nor artists used: fully digital recording media or even mixing gear. So the common CD release would be an "AAD" (Analog, Analog, Digital). ADDs were the next most common and once in a while you would come across a DDD disc. Rage For Order was the first album I, personally, ever saw with the DDD rating and it was also the first Compact Disc I ever purchased (prior to even owning a compact disc player, in fact!). ...it's true that "all digital" does NOT, in fact, "mean": "perfection" (as was assumed in those days) ...but it did offer a different soundscape and a very "strange" (at that time!) level/degree of background noise: almost nonexistent! (Which was, truly, "shocking" back in those times!!). Also: as far as I am aware, Rage For Order features the first use of a sub-harmonic generator, on a commercial "pop marketing oriented" album [a metal album]. Used in "Screaming In Digital" (effectively the "sequel" to The Warning album's "N.M. 156"), a sub-harmonic generator, essentially, both enhances the lower frequencies at the bottom end of the human hearing spectrum (20 Hz to, about 38 🤷 -ish Hz - the lowest note on a bass guitar is, generally, around 44-46 Hz. (when tuned to "A 440")....), but also adds sub-auditory tones (below 20 Hz - which MOST humans cannot, actively, "hear," per se, anyway!), which, while one will notice something happening on a regular stereo system, as well, to, actually, reproduce those frequencies, one would require a specialized crossover and a Sub-woofer (most of the items sold and spoken of as "subwoofers," in actuality, AREN'T. IF you are producing auditory signal, it IS NOT an actual "subwoofer." A sub-woofer only produces tones the human ear CANNOT HEAR! (They are below the frequency spectrum of the human ear!) ...one can only FEEL them (they will shake your clothes and stuff) ...and if your crossovers are designed differently, they can produce both: auditory low-end frequencies as well as "invisible" (un-hearable) frequencies ...generally recorded to enhance one-another and give an "expansion" to the sound which surpasess, simply "turning the volume up." ...Anyhow: DeGarmo and Kernon used one on "Screaming In Digital" (it gives it a "massive feel" at certain points)! - Just: intriguing factoids. 💜🤷.
@@AMusicianandaJerk I am glad you found it so! Definitely my, personal, favorite (many of the songs which, apparently, as with YOU: on first listen/early listens, did NOT strike me as "great," NOW are HUGE favorites (Also: I began investigating song-writing around this time and just after · prior I had, simply, been/thought of myself as "a musician" ...a "performer ...so: acquired new understandings and perspective, also, altered my appreciation and relationships with things! 👍👍). I was fortunate enough to see this tour [Once: in the opening slot for Ozzy (with the Jake E. Lee +Randy Castillo, Phil Soussan line-up). Queensrÿche were given: a greatly reduced stage space and slightly lackluster sound (a common, but unnecessary & uncool practice, even into those days!), but, I.M.O.: Q-rÿche far-and-away, topped Ozzy's band (who were no slouches, at all!-Don't misread what I'm studying/read in some nonexistent implication, please!!). I also got to see them play a club/theatre date on the R4O tour. Spectacular performances! (Way better, I felt, than the early opening slots on MetallicA's "Damaged Justice" leg of the [first post-Cliff 😭😭] ...And Justice For All tour! - which was: touring for Op: Mindcrime). I, personally, find this: the most groundbreaking, best written, most innovative and strongest all-around Queensrÿche album. ...not that they don't continue to write worthwhile, listenable stuff, but: they are a different band without DeGarmo ...and: by Empire/Promised Land, they were beginning to let Tate think & write formulaically (or were unable to prevent his movement in that direction) and were, of course, a bit "hamstrung" by the massive, unexpected shifts in musical tastes, circa: 1989-1991 (and, within a few years: "MTV" 's appropriation of that as a commercial bulwark for "all youth" (which, sadly, disgustingly!!😡🤬👎🖕 ...a preponderance bought into/accepted as "a given" 🙄🤦 ... particularly after 1994 🙄🤦🖕😡🤬)-). Anyhow: you will find that as a musical performer, fan or songwriter or engineer: this album benefits from and warrants: repeated listens! 💜💜 🤘🤘
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Such a deep album, so ahead of its time!
First time I saw Queensryche live was with this album. They were opening for Ratt. Hooked ever since.
The Ratt / Queensryche tour that I went to in Biloxi, Mississippi was my first concert, after hearing ‘Take Hold of the Flame’ I went out the next day and purchased the album.
this album pure gold, terribly underrated. Glad to see someone is giving it recognition
Glad you are giving this album a full listen. Such an underrated album. WAY ahead of its time with the tones, layering and overall sound quality. Majestic!
"Gonna Get Close To You" is a cover of Canadian Singer Lisa Dalbello's song.
Is it originally a pop song?
@@AMusicianandaJerk I don't know what genre it is considered but I wouldn't call the original a "Rock" song. It's on TH-cam, check it out.
@@Ilikeryche I like some of the guitar sounds and elements of that song, but I’ve always found it to be the weakest song on the record.
@@Rikrik1138 I thought it was an odd song for them to cover.
This album is so good and just gets better with more listens. You and the Jerk need to react to their MTV Unplugged set. It has to be the single most underrated MTV Unplugged performance.
Whoa now hold on.... For Oh you know he might be the jerk
It's a musician and a jerk but that doesn't mean one of them is a musician and the other is a jerk
He could be both
Or even she
@@LN-Lifer I’m pretty sure they acknowledge which is which in one of their first videos…
You get a like and subscribe just for reacting to this album. I've listened to it so many times it might be a part of my DNA.
Still one of favorite Queensryche albums. The Warning and the first EP are impressive too given some of the band members were kids at the time.
Prog perfection ahead of it's time
I have found that the more I listen to Queensryche songs, the more I change up which songs I like the most.
I agree with you that they don't do "filler songs". They were always serious about putting out quality music.
I love how they were always incorporating new sounds and aural textures into the musical landscape too! There were always little bits that were surprising and unanticipated.
I believe Geoff wrote the lion's share of the lyrics. Chris was a great lyricist too. Michael also contributrd to lyrics.
It's always good to have the lyric sheet when listening the first few times, 'cos they have interesting things to say. In "I Dream in Infrared" (which they don't actually say in the song. They say: "I only see in infrared. I can't dream anymore...") there's a line I like a lot: "When you woke this morning, and opened up your eyes, did you notice the tear stains lining your face were mine?". Good stuff!
And their compositions are just SO GOOD! They really excel at building the intensity and drama in a song in a very satisfying way. You really FEEL something when listening to them!
Loved your take on each song. I like hearing what you, being a musician yourself, noticed about different parts that sometimes escaped me.
Yeah, the album covers could have been better, but maybe they just didn't care that much about them. All the creativity went into what was between the covers.
Thanks for doing the whole album! I hope you'll squeeze in more QR when you can!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and watching! I love hearing what others have to say about music, especially if they've been listening to it for much longer than I have. We are always able to learn new things from others and simple stuff can be missed because there is always so much happening in each song!
@@AMusicianandaJerk
So true, about missing small things. And it's a joy when you find music that you WANT to listen to over and over.🎶😏
Mexican Coca~Cola means real sugar in a real glass bottle: ;Perfect drink for perfect album reaction!🤘 Thanks for these great memories! 👍
That's why I drink it 🤣 thank you for watching!
Absolutely brilliant record!
I Will Remember was the first song that I ever taught myself on acoustic guitar.
One insight into the sound effects and noises you're hearing is that the album was produced by Neil Kernon, who has a resume that spans everything from 70s pop to prog and even industrial metal.
Promised Land is my favorite album! And the album cover is awesome
This is my favorite album. I think it’s because it was the one that got me hooked on Queensryche and every time I hear it, it takes me back to that time in my life. Many great memories. I find myself playing this whole CD the most and rarely skipping a song. 🎶 💕🎶
Glad you reacted to Rage for Order! One of my favorite albums from any artist... About the multiple guitar tracks in songs like Neue Regel, for that tour Geoff played guitar (not too much, basic stuff) to get the sound as close as the record
...and keyboard player offstage. Geoff and Chris did the keyboard tracks in the studio,I believe.
@@SEPDERthey also had Randy Gaines aka Random Damage (from Geoff's band Myth) doing keyboards offstage
Screaming in Digital and Neue Regel are my favorites.
Geoff Tate played guitar live on Neue Regal on that tour.....the third guitarist. They opened with that song.
Every songs my Favorite! Neil Kernon produced RFO so brilliantly with the talent of the whole band. RFO tour was awsome!
Yes, he absolutely did use a megaphone when performing live to get that effect on his voice. You can find bootleg footage from those concerts here on youtube
He didn't when I saw them twice on the Rage For Order tour.
It was a vocal effect straight from the soundboard.
No megaphone here either...
th-cam.com/video/wOgqjPY4evo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=hu4J_GI1xKztz1QK
Best of their albums
I know operation mindcrime is a classic and held in high regard for good reason, but to me this is their best album. So many bangers, but my favorite is probably screaming in digital, not only does it rock but its very relevant for modern times as far as lyrics. Also love the softness of I will remember, but honestly so many good songs.
I saw them with ozzy in 1986. Great show!!!
Yooo they were my first concert with Ozzy in 86. The ultimate sin and Rage for order tour. Cool!
The album that was their masterpiece. They reached the pinnicaole of at that point. Then went further.
Hey just wanted to let you know that IMMINENCE dropped their new album “The Black.” This is how the album is broken down. Pick a song and there are MV and vis….you pick.
Songs from album “The Black”
MV= Music Video
Vis= Visualizer
1. Come Hell or Highwater (MV & Vis)
2. Desolation (MV & Vis)
3. Heaven Shall Burn(MV & Vis)
4. Beyond the Pale (Vis)
5. Come What May (Vis)
6. Death by a Thousand Cuts (MV & Vis)
7. The Call of the Void (Vis)
8. Continuum (MV & Vis)
9. The Black (Vis)
Instrumental songs
1. Cul-de-Sac (Vis)
2. L’ appel Du Vide (Vis)
3. Le Noir (Vis)
Please feel free to pick a song. This is for the band IMMINENCE from Sweden. The lead singer, Eddie Berg, plays violin at the same time as he sings and screams.
This is the storyline of videos that go together.
Storyline w/ music videos
1. Come Hell or Highwater
2. Desolation
3. Heaven Shall Burn
4. Death by a Thousand Cuts
5. Continuum
No Storyline w/ visualizers
1. Beyond the Pale
2. The Call of the Void
3. Come What May
4. The Black
Sebastian Bach just dropped a killer new album, it’s actually really good. Gives me slave to the grind vibes. You guys should check out his music video he dropped a couple days ago. It’s called Freedom
Gonna get close to you is my favorite song on this album
For Neue Regal live on the Rage For Order tour, the beginning vocal effect came directly from the soundboard.
Saw them twice on that tour and both times they opened with Neue Regal.
Absolutely outstanding!
th-cam.com/video/wOgqjPY4evo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=hu4J_GI1xKztz1QK
It's sorta a shame, that you couldn't see the lyrics for 'London' during your first reaction to it. I've always imagined the story to be referencing Jack the Ripper, but instead of a human the Hunter is actually an immortal vampire. Haunted by the memories of the women, so many victims that he can no longer recall any name to place with the face, and at all times driving by the feral needs for blood and violence.
What's next ... maybe a reaction to the whole The warning album ?! 🙏🙏
Perhaps 👀
Waiting for “The Warning”..automatic sun
I did a full reaction to this album too and the songs that became my favorite are "London" and "I Will Remember". This album has no bad songs (except Chemical Youth(We are Rebellion) that is kind of mediocre to me).
Fates warning, Perfect Cematry album is great also
Did you do the whole Operation Minecraft album?
Yep but it's blocked 😭 I'll try to edit it some more and re-upload it.
This is my favorite album by the Ryche!
Fates Warning is another one... HUGE influence on my own vocal work.
Check out Fates Warning albums called Parallels and InsideOut. Passionate vocals and phenomenal music... I like the musical compositions even better than Queensryche... Just much more muchy... It's "Muchier" than Ryche.
Damn did u really cut out tbe drum solo at the end of walk in shadows?
Do the Warning next.....
No "I Dream In Infrared" has no 'endpoint.'
It segués, directly, into "The Whisper"
...prior to CDs discrete "start" or "end" points were not necessary or assigned to individual songs, in every case.
[Side note: this album is one of the first "DDD" albums (when CDs did arrive & were made commercially viable).
Meaning that: while 90-something % of albums were recorded to analog tape (well into the 1990s and even 2000s), this was, instead, recorded to some sort of "digital" media (likely "digital tape" - which doesn't, per se, make sense as: any form of "tape" is analog, by nature. ...but... 🤷🤦), mixed digitally and printed digitally [to a digital format. i.e.: CDs]
Albums did not receive a "rating," but if you knew anything about audio technology, when CDs started to share (and, then, take over) the marketplace, in the final few years of the '80s and early years of the '90s), the "DDD" disc was "the highest quality print" you could acquire.
They were also quite rare most studios nor artists used: fully digital recording media or even mixing gear.
So the common CD release would be an "AAD" (Analog, Analog, Digital).
ADDs were the next most common and once in a while you would come across a DDD disc.
Rage For Order was the first album I, personally, ever saw with the DDD rating and it was also the first Compact Disc I ever purchased (prior to even owning a compact disc player, in fact!).
...it's true that "all digital" does NOT, in fact, "mean": "perfection" (as was assumed in those days) ...but it did offer a different soundscape and a very "strange" (at that time!) level/degree of background noise: almost nonexistent! (Which was, truly, "shocking" back in those times!!).
Also: as far as I am aware, Rage For Order features the first use of a sub-harmonic generator, on a commercial "pop marketing oriented" album [a metal album].
Used in "Screaming In Digital" (effectively the "sequel" to The Warning album's "N.M. 156"), a sub-harmonic generator, essentially, both enhances the lower frequencies at the bottom end of the human hearing spectrum (20 Hz to, about 38 🤷 -ish Hz - the lowest note on a bass guitar is, generally, around 44-46 Hz. (when tuned to "A 440")....), but also adds sub-auditory tones (below 20 Hz - which MOST humans cannot, actively, "hear," per se, anyway!), which, while one will notice something happening on a regular stereo system, as well, to, actually, reproduce those frequencies, one would require a specialized crossover and a Sub-woofer (most of the items sold and spoken of as "subwoofers," in actuality, AREN'T. IF you are producing auditory signal, it IS NOT an actual "subwoofer." A sub-woofer only produces tones the human ear CANNOT HEAR! (They are below the frequency spectrum of the human ear!) ...one can only FEEL them (they will shake your clothes and stuff) ...and if your crossovers are designed differently, they can produce both: auditory low-end frequencies as well as "invisible" (un-hearable) frequencies ...generally recorded to enhance one-another and give an "expansion" to the sound which surpasess, simply "turning the volume up."
...Anyhow: DeGarmo and Kernon used one on "Screaming In Digital"
(it gives it a "massive feel" at certain points)!
- Just: intriguing factoids. 💜🤷.
A lot of interesting and new info here, thank you for that!
@@AMusicianandaJerk I am glad you found it so!
Definitely my, personal, favorite (many of the songs which, apparently, as with YOU: on first listen/early listens, did NOT strike me as "great," NOW are HUGE favorites (Also: I began investigating song-writing around this time and just after · prior I had, simply, been/thought of myself as "a musician" ...a "performer ...so: acquired new understandings and perspective, also, altered my appreciation and relationships with things! 👍👍).
I was fortunate enough to see this tour [Once: in the opening slot for Ozzy (with the Jake E. Lee +Randy Castillo, Phil Soussan line-up).
Queensrÿche were given: a greatly reduced stage space and slightly lackluster sound (a common, but unnecessary & uncool practice, even into those days!), but, I.M.O.: Q-rÿche far-and-away, topped Ozzy's band (who were no slouches, at all!-Don't misread what I'm studying/read in some nonexistent implication, please!!).
I also got to see them play a club/theatre date on the R4O tour.
Spectacular performances!
(Way better, I felt, than the early opening slots on MetallicA's "Damaged Justice" leg of the [first post-Cliff 😭😭] ...And Justice For All tour! - which was: touring for Op: Mindcrime).
I, personally, find this: the most groundbreaking, best written, most innovative and strongest all-around Queensrÿche album.
...not that they don't continue to write worthwhile, listenable stuff, but: they are a different band without DeGarmo
...and: by Empire/Promised Land, they were beginning to let Tate think & write formulaically (or were unable to prevent his movement in that direction) and were, of course, a bit "hamstrung" by the massive, unexpected shifts in musical tastes, circa: 1989-1991 (and, within a few years: "MTV" 's appropriation of that as a commercial bulwark for "all youth" (which, sadly, disgustingly!!😡🤬👎🖕 ...a preponderance bought into/accepted as "a given" 🙄🤦 ... particularly after 1994 🙄🤦🖕😡🤬)-).
Anyhow: you will find that as a musical performer, fan or songwriter or engineer: this album benefits from and warrants: repeated listens!
💜💜 🤘🤘
The E P The warning Rage for order after that they became a Disco metal band didn't like mindcrime and didn't like Empire