Classical Composer Reacts to BLACK SABBATH: CHILDREN OF THE SEA (featuring DIO) | The Daily Doug
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In this edition of #thedailydoug, I'm returning to music from the Ronnie James Dio era of Black Sabbath. We're listening to Children of the Sea both for #metalmonday and for #earthday. It's ahard rocking tune with a great ecological message in its lyrics. I hope you enjoy!
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40+ years later to me "Heaven & Hell" is still a masterpiece of music production & engineering.
Martin Birch did justice to the music. Everything is warm, clear and LOUD. So many layers, so clear.
Timeless
Heaven and Hell is easily in my top 3 or 4 Black Sabbath songs. Easily my favourite song with Tony and RJD, “Heaven and Hell” the band, there’s some wicked tunes there too. The H&H album is incredible. Iommi and Dio were meant to work together, just as much as Iommi and Ozzy were.
Ive always loved the sound on this album. Imo Paranoid had the best production and mix.
I dont like the new remaster ( I think its like 2021), Of H& H, it changes the tone too much.
Martin Birch did so many other classic albums as well, Rainbow, Deep purple, Black sabbath (Mob rules as well) and Iron maiden etc, he was a true master of his craft. Rock In Peace Martin Birch and of course also my favourite singer ever Ronnie James Dio.
@@Stefan- He produced some great Blue Oyster Cult albums too.
I’ve always thought Dio should’ve won a Grammy for Best Male Vocal for this song.
what won over this? 10/10 lyrics, melody, and performance.
Yeah this is killer. The Grammy's are pretty meaningless and political.
@@shacozzi4888 At the Grammys for music released in 1980, Billy Joel won the Best Rock Vocal Performance, Male for his Glass Houses album. At that time, there were no awards for metal and only four awards for "rock" (Best Rock Vocal Performance, Female/Male, Best Rock Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocal, and Best Rock Instrumental Performance). All four of those categories were new as of the prior year, and the Grammys had ZERO interest in anything metal related. Billy Joel beat out Jackson Browne, Lenny Loggins, Paul McCartney and Bruce Springsteen (the award was generally given to solo artists). The award for duo/group with vocal was won by Bob Seger & the Silver Bullet Band (for the album Against the Wind), which beat out Blondie (nominated for the song "Call Me"), Pink Floyd (nominated for The Wall), The Pretenders (for the song "Brass in Pocket") and Queen (for "Another One Bites the Dust"). I would be shocked if anything from H&H was even submitted for consideration.
I think Tony remembers that while Ozzy's vocal lines would always follow the riff/melody, he was surprised that Ronnie would instinctively go against it, adding another layer
Yes Ozzy did that. Far from always, but sometimes so exact that it was kind of stupid. Never liked Iron man as a grownup for that reason. Dio on the other hand does what every other singer does.
Love the way Ozzy did it.
Loved those 2 early 80s albums Sabbath did with Dio!
Never liked that nails on a chalkboard Ozzy shriek!
I appreciate Ozzy in classic Sabbath and undoubtedly, there are some classic tracks. Dio was definitely the best singer they ever had and a great writer.
Only my second concert (after the Highway To Hell tour!) was the Heaven and Hell tour. Ronnie was so spot on and even the older numbers sounded fresh.
This is just another example of proof that metal music is classical music with electricity added. Great song.
This is such a masterpiece of an album
Facts!
DIO All the Fool's Sailed Away
That track gives me the chills, such a classic.
This mix is Martin Birch's magic. The legendary producer who worked with Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, and with Iron Maiden for a long time!
Don’t forget Rainbow and Whitesnake. Absolutely legendary producer/engineer, responsible for most of the best metal albums ever made.
Hes best production was "Rising" by Rainbow 1976
I sometimes wonder what Born Again would have been like had he produced it.
I’m not a great fan of Born Again, and not just because the production wasn’t very good. I don’t think Gillian’s voice suits Sabbath, for a start, but the composition isn’t the best, either. Less melodious than they usually are.
I was the luckiest little metalhead, when Dio returned for "Dehumanizer" and later for "The Devil you know".
I❤Dio
I seen both Mob Rules and Live Evil in Toronto
They tuned down 1/2 step for this record. Absolute masterpiece...
Does that make it E-flat, or D-sharp , they are tuned to ❓️
@@jeffschwartz8900 for me it's Eb and write it as E standard.
Sabbath tuned down for most of their albums - primarily because of Tony's fingers. He needed the strings to be more slack, and the tuning down helped with the Sabbath sound.
The dynamic of the chemistry that Ronnie James Dio brought to Black Sabbath reinvigorated the band and brought them back to their roots - the heavy riffs, huge melodies... ominous lyrics... Everything fans loved about Black Sabbath but were missing in Ozzy's last years (Not because of Ozzy - he had little to do w/ his last Sabbath records) However, it also sounded like a different band.
The way the original Black Sabbath worked w/ Ozzy was that Tony Iommi (guitar) would have an idea... Geezer (bass) and Bill (drums) joined in to jam the riff idea... Ozzy would come up w/ vocal melodies... and then, Geezer would have to write the lyrics w/ Ozzy's melodies.
But by 1979, that dynamic was not working because of drugs and alcohol... Geezer was burnt out and so was Bill... Ozzy didn't like what he was hearing and his ideas were being rejected constantly. After months of nothing being recorded, Tony Iommi finally made the decision to fire Ozzy Osbourne; he had met Ronnie James Dio in L.A. and they talked about writing new music together.
Ronnie James Dio had just been fired from the band Rainbow in 1979 and he was also looking for a new gig... Black Sabbath had been an inspiration and he was excited at the chance to work w/ the band... This new dynamic where Tony Iommi would play him an idea on guitar and Ronnie immediately had melodies, lyrics and his own ideas for the song seemed more productive. Geezer Butler had quit but decided to come back to Sabbath; he was ecstatic that he didn't have to write lyrics anymore... Geezer could concentrate on jamming w/ Iommi and putting his own input forward musically... Drummer Bill Ward agreed to record the drums for 'Heaven and Hell'... but he was messed up on alcohol and he revealed that he hated the band's new direction - it didn't feel right to him... So, Ward quit the band as the tour started and Vinny Appice (drums) joined the band and did the next album 'Mob Rules' in 1981 before Ronnie James Dio was sacked in 1982.
Ronnie James Dio formed the band Dio in 1983 and he was determined to carry that vision of heavy metal that Black Sabbath had w/ him... He loved the dark, heavy and aggressive elements and it was more natural to record those kinds of songs, rather than what Ritchie Blackmore was doing in Rainbow.
One of my favorite Black Sabbath songs in the Ronnie James Dio era.
Over and over should be next. Great bluesy song with wailing vocals and possibly one of Tonys best solos. Definitely should give it a listen
Falling Off the Edge of the World 🙂
@@Dios67 That is such an underrated song! I was so happy when Heaven and Hell (the band) played it when I saw them live in 2007.
@@Dios67Falling Off the Edge of the World is an utter diamond of a song. I'm always impatient to get to it when I listen to Mob Rules!
Overall I love Over and Over and I hear it often. But I don't like the solos. They don't really support the song. They drift from away from the songs mood, melody and its bluesy base theme.
The BEST MUSICAL LINEUP EVER!!! You can never go wrong with Black Sabbath and Dio!! Dio is the man!!!💜🤘
Absolutely adore this Sabbath song. RJD was an absolute god tier vocalist. Sadly missed 😢
Sabbath w/Dio
Over and Over
Falling off the Edge of the World
"I"
Sign of the Southern Cross
Thank you for your focus and reaction.
Falling is so damn good!!!
How about Country Girl
One of the best mixed albums ever! You can clearly hear every instrument.
One of my favorite albums by any band.
I was 17 when this came out. I fell in love with this album immediately
Great stuff! And another fact which makes this even more perfect for Earth Day : the original name of Black Sabbath was Earth.
Exactly where I thought Doug was going during the intro, I was sure he was going to mention this fact :) Even happier coincidence, then that he chose it for Earth day
Also Martin Birch doing his magic!
I forgot how good this song was. Dio is a legend (also sang "Butterfly Waltz", a Roger Glover song (the bass player of Deep Purple).
Its flats coz he is most probably playing guitar detuend to Eb
Oh, such an amazing song from Sabbath. Dio is simply one of the best vocalists of all time. Great reaction, Doug!
I've said it before, "Heaven & Hell" and "Mob Rules" proved Sabbath didn't need Ozzy to make great records. But,Tony did need Ronnie.
Just as "Blizzard of Oz" and "Diary of a Madman" proved Ozzy didn't need Sabbath to make great records. But, Ozzy did need Randy Rhodes.
Laughably wrong.
Sabbath already stunk by the time technical ecstasy was released.
Dio Sabbath is cringe as it gets.
Every song is Dio doing the same vocals with watered down styx/kansas riffs.
I think you’ll find you’re in a very small minority on this thread, mate. Loved both those eras of the band (and even liked Born Again and Eternal Idol), but there’s always people who can’t get past the 1st 6 Sabbath albums. Fair enough. That’s your vie. But don’t shove it down people’s throats
Sabbath did other great records without Ronnie or Ozzy like Born Again, Headless Cross and Tyr.
Ozzy did great records without Randy like Bark At The Moon, No Rest For The Wicked and No More Tears.
@@LiamWhiskers I think perhaps it's you that are "laughably wrong", and in a very small minority! I saw Sabbath with Dio quite a few times and they were fantastic live. Also Dirty Women on Technical Ecstasy is a stone wall Sabs classic.
This is my favorite sabbath song, and my favorite song with Dio singing (maybe tied with heaven and hell).
Dio Sabbath is the apotheosis of the heavy metal genre.
Check out Falling Of The Edge Of The World from Mob Rules. A phenomenal song with many layers.
Absolute banger of an album. Start to finish.
Tony Iommi is the greatest riff master and yet here he shows how he can play acoustically beautiful guitar as well! His great guitar playing and Ronnie’s incredible vocals combine to make some truly magical musical moments like this one!
And so finally you get to one of my absolute favorite metal songs. Ozzy is great, but Dio was fantastic. He brought philosophy and deep existential contemplation to the genre like few others before him. Maybe he was the very first to do it.
Can't forget about Bill Ward and Geoff Nicholls. Some of Bill's best work and Geoff adding that extra layer of atmospheric landscape. 🥁 🎹
One of my favorite Sabbath tunes!
I’m pretty sure Tony always played tuned down after he lost his fingertips.
That is why he tuned down
First time downtuned was actually Master of reality
My favorite Dio Sabbath song as well. Reckon the best version is of the Live Evil, a bit slower and heavier and Dio's vocals are off the scale.
My favorite Dio-era Sabbath song! 🤘 You always manage to review my favorite things.
Great choice Doug 👍Thanks for the amazing analysis as always!
Please check out Black Sabbath - When Death Calls!
You need to listen to the Tony Martin era Black Sabbath which is much darker than the rest of their music. He is such an underrated singer.
This song even has a guest solo from Brian May of Queen!
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Old enough that the first Black Sabbath tour I saw and the first new album available was this.
I loved the older albums but this album was like Black Sabbath going from 2D to 3D.
Geezer is such a massively under-rated bass player
Heaven and Hell is an immortal masterpiece and as much as I adore the (early) Ozzy phase of Sabbath, this is where all stars aligned imho. Epic. ❤
High Doug I've been subscribed to your channel for sometime now and I always enjoy your reviews of all things music I love the way you always seem to educate your audience in some way. As for this song it's probably one of my favourite dio/Sabbath songs such a great rif and classic vocals from Ronnie keep em coming.
I love how you added the keys into your analysis. Awesome discussion and breakdown Doug.
No one gives Geezer his props on the bass. Excellent bass riffs all around.
I believe this song is about Atlantis. The mythical island that sank into the Ocean. Not about "Earth day". whatever that is.
Everyday is Earth day. As long as that star keeps burning, and this planet keeps spinning...
This is my favourite singer thank you
Thanks Doug! You hit on many points there!
Please do the title track from Dio's The Last in Line. IMO its his solo career masterpiece
Really love the spooky ghostly sound of the end of the solo. That's the kind of "disruptive" stuff that allways was a trademark of the best Band in the world.
Finally !!! Someone gets it. I've been screaming about all these things you just said since the first time I heard it. It's a warning of where we are going. Finally !!! Thank you Doug. I thought I was the only one that got it. RJD has been my favorite vocalist since I was a kid. I HIGHLY recommend Street Walker by Elf. Ronnie really showcases his abilities in this song, and the content is worth a listen. It's a well written song with everything from hard rock to caberet/lounge music. Very captivating.
Was blessed to see this on tour in Bristol England. Blew me away hearing Ronnie's fantastic voice, he truly was an amazing powerhouse. Deeply missed but forever in our minds
I saw them on this tour and they were fantastic. Rip Ronnie.
I did, too. They were phenomenal. Dio is the greatest metal singer of all time!
Great video doug.
This is Top 3 Favorite Albums of Mine. And Dio is my Favorite Singer, No Offense to Ozzy.
1980 was truly the dawn of a new age for metal.So many great albums and bands that year. I'm told the background chorus on this song is from the same source as Supertzar. H&H was a perfect album.
One of my all time favourite Dio era songs. Thanks Doug. I’d love you to do “Bible Black” and “I” at some stage, please.
🤘😎🤘
Glad to see you becoming welcomed on TH-cam.
The song is in the concert key of G#/Ab. But guitar and bass are tuned a half step flat. So as guitarists and bassists we think of it being in A because that's where it falls physically on a guitar tuned a half step flat.
I was a massive Dio fan in the 80's but having heard many good metal vocalists since then i am only now appreciating how good Ronnie was, at the top along with Ozzy, Bruce Dickinson
Sorry.
The trinity is
Dio
Bruce Dickinson
Rob Halford
@@michaelkruska6097 I'd put Bob Catley from Magnum in that list. th-cam.com/video/YkQ7g18zIpE/w-d-xo.html
@@michaelkruska6097though I'm more into Ozzy as a vocalist than Rob, I can't disagree with you, your trinity probably the best three in metal history
Such an amazing song from such an amazing album.
this should be awesome thank you
This was the first song they wrote together!!!
Dio also played bass on heaven and hell!!!
The first song that Dio and Iommi wrote together
My favorite cut off of this album is "Neon Knights." Phenomenal!
Been nice seeing the the transition of you.
A fantastic track and one of my favourites
I really hope this doesnt sound like im crapping on Ozzy, especially early Sabbath Ozzy, but....Dio had way more talent. That voice man. And thats coming from the kid who had the most Ozzy cassettes back in the day.
Mob Rules is my fav Sabbath album.
No
I think that can be agreed on as fact.
Without taking anything away!
MOB RULES IS GOOD, BUT THERE. ARE BETTR SONGS THAN THIS. LADY EVIL FEX BUT DIO IS SINGING AND THAT IS GREAT . THANKS DIO FOR YOUR LYRICS AND RIP BRO.🤘
@75sliver "no" ? You disagree that RJD is on a whole different level as a singer , songwriter, and performer ?
Every time I hear it...I'm with my buddy Patrick in his 74 4 door Impala, with the 8 track player and Jensen triaxles. Not a care in the world.
Takes me back to my high school days and don't forget Neon Knights.
I remember purchasing this LP from my local record shop when it was released. Great daze indeed!
You were so in the moment, no bong rip, heaps of keys, l loved you reacting to mild prog key shifts, loved the world day knowledge comparisons - insight with compassion & gratitude - a warning ... Look out
Hi Doug.
How good is DIO? And adding his voice to Black Sabbath back in the 80's is like 2 peas in a pod. Insane.
But if you enjoyed that song sung by DIO, then you need to listen to my all time favourite "DIO/Black Sabbath rif".
It's called "Falling off the Edge of the World", and it's on the "Mob Rules" album.
Once again, I really enjoy your channel so PLEASE, never stop.
Cheers 😉
Thanks Doug! I'll be back next Monday!!!
Dio Sabbath Rules!
man I love this song. It very fun to listen to it, but playing the guitar riffs and the solos are...mmwah! incredible.
Dio breathed life back into the old girl! Incredible album!
Your thoughts on Earth Day....well said good sir, well said. Your choice of song for Earth Day....excellent! Dio is never a bad choice.
Great to hear you speak out about Earth Day Doug. I think you’re spot on with your thoughts about Ronnie’s lyrics.
If you do more Sabbath these are what I think you would like:
Black Sabbath
Hand of Doom
Into the Void
Supernaut
Under the Sun
Killing Yourself to Live
Megalomania
The Writ
Johnny Blade
The Mob Rules
God is Dead?
Age of Reason
This one can move ya to tears! 🤘
I'm always a little surprised when I hear this studio version. I think they tended to slow it down and make it more ponderous (in a good way) for live performances. The studio version races along in comparison.
@Doug.Helvering
What a great song! Melody Cristea, lead singer of the (family) Liliac band, was highly influenced by
Dio, They have covered several Black Sabbath songs. In fact, Tony has jammed with them a few times. Really enjoyed this.
More Dio is always a bonus! love Ozzy but Dio was next level, greatest singer in rock/metal 🤘
Absolutely fantastic song. Ronnie at his best🤘🏻
Suggestion for a future Earth Day…Devin Townsend did a song called Earth Day. Maybe I’m being a bit literal, but that seems a good fit
I forgot how powerful that song is - brings me back to high school when I discovered that album. The energy of it makes me feel like I can sing along with him it’s just so energizing but….no way…his voice is incredible
This album means the adulthood of heavy-metal. It's heavy, dark and classy showing the world what heavy music is all about.
Note: Richard also composed the music for some their hits like "Goodbye to Love," "I know I Need to be in Love" and Merry Christmas Darling" (just to mention a few). Their layered vocals were Richard's idea and done as a tribute to Les Paul and Mary Ford, singers he greatly admired. Karen DID take drumming and voice lessons, but her brother's training started at an earlier age since he was deemed as somewhat of a musical prodigy from a young age.
Lyrically, Ronnie has a remarkably consistent point of view. Throughout his career, his lyrics advocated strength, but at the same time warned against complacency. He's a sort of avatar of vigilant stoicism.
I still get chills every time I hear it, even 44 years later. This and the "Mob Rules" tours were some of the best shows I've seen. BTW oil is the second most common fluid on the planet and Yes it does replenish itself. Climate Clowns are always wrong, since we were supposedly going to run out of oil in the late 60's.
Dio live is on a whole different lvl. Should check that out as well!
That album is all killer, no filler 🤘
I was pretty young when this album came out, but was already into Black Sabbath's previous music with Ozzy. Dio brought it to another level and everyone knew it. A musician like Dio in Sabbath reinvented the band. That is an amazing feat. And as everyone knows, Dio's career was just getting started.
When you put the riff Lord with The Metal Voice, it's just impossible to happen nothing but masterpieces
Great song, one of my favorites of Dio's era in Black Sabbath!
I don't know if you considered those songs for Earth Day, but "Mother Earth" and "Ice Queen" from Within Temptation fit perfectly and also a great intro to this band.
Black Sabbath 1968-eternity🤘
Love this song, but Revelation Mother Earth by Ozzy would've been a more Earth Day type of song.
I think G# for them is played A, as they down tune.
(Doh! just just said it as I was typing!)
Same for Eb, played open E string.
Bass line is incredible
Great sabbath song i love it
You should hear the live version from. their Live Evil album, Ronnie's vocals are off the charts?
the live at wacken version of this song is the best
Such a badass album.
Tony's guitar is tuned a half-step down on this song. That would make the parts D minor then A minor and then E minor for the solo section. Used to play this song years ago in a band I was in
Martin Birch at that time was untouchable. Three years later, Iron Maiden and Piece Of Mind, again an album, you can listen each instrument separately, if you want to. Everything is in it´s own place and crystal clear, but at the same time, crushing heavy if needed. Heaven & Hell is in the same category, still to this day, one of the best sounding records ever. Not to mention the music !
He did 10 Iron maiden albums according to wiki, the first one "Killers" in 1981, same year "Mob rules" came out which he also did. He did all the Rainbow albums with Dio as well.
@@Stefan- True, I mentioned Piece Of Mind as IMO it's the best sounding of them all.