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- Challenging the traditional production line approach, Microfactories allow the process to be more dynamic and flexible, with each robotic cell having multiple functions rather than just one sole purpose. Arrival's Microfactory approach not only sets out to revolutionise the manufacturing of electric vehicles but also has the potential to become a new norm for factory production.
The Microfactory allows communities to become an integral part of the process, with local Microfactories acting as the sole provider of electric vehicles for that particular region.
Learn more about the Microfactory process: • Inside the Microfactor...
Learn more about Arrival: www.arrival.com
#Microfactory - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
the video had more details about the Chief of mobile robotics fashion sense than micro factory production
He just arrived from one of his micro closets
that's mean
I lost it when he was talking about f*cktory in a f*cktory.
@@ethanwcheatham that's where the name of the company comes from
everything looks so clean .... i doubt theres any manf going here
They have maintenance tech people
One thought - it’s PR to raise more capital
@@Haramivents ... they figured out it's better to change robotic arms every year than having people to fix them... so not much maintaining
They have the robots build new robots for the day of filming.
/s how amazing would that be the BTS would be super meta advertising.
@@TheNewton they buy the robotic arms they don't build it.
The precision needed to build a robotic arm need different kind of machines...
(What do you mean with /S ..... ..... .... and after that. ?)
As someone working in the EV production industry I have two things to say - this is an insane paradigm shift for low volume production, and will certainly be a technology blossoming in the near future. Absolutely fantastic.
Do you not feel they are over engineering it a little perhaps? The idea of "vision systems" and "AI" seems great but I do wonder if a human could move those parts just as easily :)
@@zag4me humans have needs. they have emotions. they have household issues they bring to work. all that is eliminated with robots.
for example. i did warehouse automation of storage and retrieval. one job/warehouse laid off 900 employees and the system cost was paid off in 2 years on the benefits from the human workers.
As someone working in automotive industry as a Process Planner (developing production lines) - i do not see anything new in this video that would not be already years in use (in a low volume manufacturing process)
@@zag4me in cheap Eastern Europe the costs of a simple operator is 22-26k Euro per year, in a 3 shift production you need 3 operators = 66-78k Euro yearly to cover one operation,
Capex costs (investment) for a cooperative robot 10-15kE, simple robot 10-15kE, large size robot 20-35kE, autonomous logistics trolley 5-15kE. Running costs minimal. 1 robot covers 3 shift production.
Make your calculation! (NOTE: and that is EAST Europe with "Cheap" labor, West Europe Labor costs 50+k Euro yearly x 3 shifts
That does not even cover the topic - availability of labor. Believe it or not - its a huge problem to even get a operator nowdays, in Slovakia we import them from Ukraine
@@zag4me there's nothing like over engineering, the goal is to push the limits and see how far we can go.
This is the robotic version of how manufacturing was before assembly line. There’s a reason it fell out of favor. It couldn’t compete with the economics of scale and serial production. I look forward to see if the advances in robotics has allowed small scale production to compete
Manufacturing cells still exists. In Roland for example ( th-cam.com/video/Dz4xCCPkni0/w-d-xo.html ) and a few other companies do that as well.
This style of manufacturing is more attuned to really expensive things at low volume. Electric trucks are not it. I also do not agree with their business strategy. Arrival is miscalculating the demand.
@@KingLutherQ I agree. They may be saving on transporting the vehicles, but having a lot of micro factories is not a model one can apply to automotive at scale. At the very least they should produce the skateboard platform in a convertor belt manufacturing, and they can finish bodywork off in smaller decentralized shops.
That guy was talking about how big factories overproduce for their local area. Of course they do, the point is to supply far more than the local area.
Yep I expect the micro factory part is PR, and they'll really be licensing tech to, or hoping to be bought out by the bigger companies. You'd need Star Trek level tech before the convenience of local manufacturing beats global shipping.
I thought this was a well produced, Silicone Valley-style, deeply ironic skit.... Realised about halfway through that its real life. All the best to them in their mission.
I am still convinced it actually IS a spoof... maybe.
This is interesting but seems it would increase the need for transport and make logistics more complicated. With ten small factories spread out each supplier needs to ship to ten location instead of one.
altgough it makes it more complicated, i dont think it will need more transportation since this concept doesnt change the number of parts needed
@@irg008 It does because instead of having one movement with 10000 parts you now have 10 different streams of a 100 parts.. I mean come on.. thats not rockey science. This entire idea sounds smart but as an industrial engineer i can guarantee right now that they will end up with much more costs then conventional car manufacturers.
@@tacticalgaming4765 not if you are highly vertically integrated. This reminds me of the Steel Industry disruption for Micro Furnaces
@@MattHughesMN But they arent and it still creates more movements haha. The only way you reduce that is by centralizing production at mass.
@@tacticalgaming4765 Not if they only have one factory. Their production target is only 10k vehicles.
Can’t help but feel all these arrival videos are chock full of wonderful buzzwords without any substance or actually saying what they are doing!?
Exactly. We’re developing the relationship of semantics that connect the interwoven discussion of AI which is really important in today’s modern world.
... you mean it's for real - thought it was a spoof!
I guess they want money from investors. I got some WeWork vibes here. 😂
It's clearly obfuscated by academic popcorn speech.
That description fits almost all companies.
Einstein didn't actually said that. Schumacher did in Small is Beautiful: A Study of Economics As If People Mattered
Napo is one of those blokes that talks bull while his team of Asian engineers do the work for him
@@Ken-nv2hl He looks like the kind of guy that has poster size pictures of himself on the walls of his flat.
@@Ken-nv2hl you can tell from miles this is guy is 100% BS lol
@@zinyang8213 ahahahh! but his HAIR looks nice !
Well, as Einstein said : "99% of the quotes attributed to Einstein are actually from someone else".
I have been doing industrial automation for over 20 years and I think they are blowing a lot of smoke. All of this stuff is already being done, AGVs, vision guided robots and companies have been making multiple part types on the same line for ages. I’d like to see more of what is really different here.
exactly..i cant see any chasis or anything just some composite pparts tat too body parts
Yeah, is it the manufacturing process that’s revolutionary ? Or the scalability ? If it’s the scalability then are they really selling micro factories as a service ?
Not a single factory worker in this video. Lots of fancy suits and hairstyles however.
Do you wanna be a factory worker, or your kids?
@@ConnoisseurOfExistence apparently ;)
@@ConnoisseurOfExistence nobody should shame anyone receiving honest pay for honest work, even if that means working in a factory.
@@MrRedTux That has nothing to do with the issue. Most of factory workers hate their jobs and do it with boredom and unpleasure every day. Such jobs are a great waste of human talent. If we can replace all the factory workers with robots, and thus release them so they can learn and put their abilities to better use - all the better.
Sounds like my kinda place.😆👌🏼
The only thing I see being produced in the 'micro-factory' is just the composite parts.
At the rate the robots are moving, it would take them a day to make 10 cars.
That's up to 3,650 cars a year though. Sounds like 3 microfactories would get their 10k target.
Cool. Sidenote: Robotics guy dresses really well.
I’m not sure why… but, this smells fishy. Are you just doing final assembly in these? How close are you to actually pulling this vision off?
Yeah, big car manufacturers already have most of production automated except for parts where humans are simply much better, I do not see anything innovative here.
@@radol The innovative part is the size, they could franchise as an entrepreneur would need a relatively sized warehouse. This would scale their business immensely
It should smell fishy; it's pure BS. It's people milking investors for all they're worth.
@@timhofstetter5654 no, they just partnered with uber to produce there Uber Green cars in the UK, and with UPS for there delivery vans in the UK
@@abritishguy7295 My condolences.
I thought this was a trailer for a new season of Silicon Valley. Jokes aside, this looks cool!
How big are the factories that make the sub assemblies for the micro factories?
I love how lot of EV makers rethink not only the vehicle itself, but also manufaturing. You see it with Teslas Gigapress, new alloys etc and Arrivals Microfactories as well. Incredible! Can't wait to see more!
Can we see how long does it take to build one unit?
Gee, sounds impressive. I have just one question -how many trucks have been produced this way and how does the quality compare?
i know they are in the final stages of design for the UPS truck in the UK,
@@abritishguy7295 The great thing about this approach is the ability to learn and change quickly. I was an automotive engineer so I question how this will stand up to the economies of scale competitors will have but while the big boys suffer a thousand cuts from their global supply chains Arrival micro factories are making a run for it.
I would love to use this technology for building boats.
Love the adaptability of this Factory. Hopefully tour it someday. Great stuff coming out of Arrival
" Hey JP, how much do clothes cost in the matrix?"
Few will get this reference but spot on
Spot on!
Two things I learned from this video. TH-cam is full of automation experts, they don't like anything unless their company did it.
That "chief of mobile robotics" guy looks like he came from the set of blade runner
There was this dictopian movie that came around the same time as Gattaca. Well, this guy looks like a 'chief villain'))))
Well done team Arrival, definitely applying for a job and I'd love being part of this revolutionary movement. 💯
How many cars per day, 3 or 4?
the Director of economic development wasn't walking around in York County SC but the City of Charlotte in NC. York County is a southern neighborhood far outside the city. The concept is interesting though
"I'd like to start by incorrectly quoting Einstein". so much about this screams bs. They just come across like a bunch of knobs.
Academic obfuscators, intent on ripping off their unwise investors.
Is there a trade off for the flexibility a micro factory gives you in terms of cost, scale or production speed?
More complicated logistics of getting the parts to all the factories, lower production speed on account of less specialized equipment. And I imagine higher cost of the final product.
All this archetypal Silicon Valley PR tone is getting so old. From sliding shots to vintage backgrounds (in-frame backstage set gear, ...this gray paper photo shoot background is stupidly tiny BTW dudes), along with the sempiternal humanist narrative.... 🤢
Don't forget the tech lead with aspirations of being the world's top runway model.
The future! Save on shipping costs too, build where demand is!
So instead of shipping thousands of components to one factory and the finished product to the client they ship those components to many factories near the potential clients. How are they saving on shipping cost? All I see is a logistical nightmare.
@@pflernak I think the trillion-dollar auto industry would have done the studies on this.
@@canofpulp Might be why nobody else does this
My local, organic, handcrafted van is here , available at the nearest WHOLECARs ...
I've been wondering why people haven't been trying this kind of thing for years. It actually makes so much sense.
You have to be smart about the vehicle design - using commonality between parts and limited number of materials and sizes for things like steel forms and small parts.
But without the capital barrier it's possible to expand and adapt production quickly - which will be a key advantage in the future markets. What's more, you will almost never lose the investment as the factory is easily adapted to other uses.
Instead of economies of scale, you have a limited production capacity but much lower costs, overheads and risk. If it makes money then it makes money. If not, you haven't lost billions setting up a factory that's not flexible enough to adapt to products that will actually make money. Economies of scale matter and are necessary for some products, but they also usually require years to pay back the initial investment which might not be possible with the rate of change in the future. It's not the strongest or fastest that survive, it's the most adaptable.
I think this is a step towards the future. You have my respect for jumping in the deep end with something as complicated as vehicles!
Car manufacturers generally have pretty thin margins tho. So Id argue the economy of scale is important. There is a reason why Tesla builds Gigafactories.
Your a punk right?
I want to see a full unedited video of the assembly process, from beginning to end.
I have no idea what I am watching but I like it
What is the capex per throughput ($/UPH) in these factories and how does it compare with an assembly line for a similar product with similar demand?
I wish I never saw this video, seems all fake, orchestrated, over-acted. I 'm praying I did not invest in vapourware.
Agreed that this seems pretty fake and pretty low on substance. More akin to a Kickstarter campaign than a technical demonstration (spinning robots, weee). It seems more like a pitch video for politicians soliciting "incentives" to put one of these warehouses in their region. If history provides any indication, even if it is vaporware it will likely be bought by a big player hoping to get in on a hip technology to increase their quarterly report buzzword count - so your investment is secure for the time being.
Spinning robots...... Weeeeeeeeee
It is, and you did.
It is a fantasy, a marketing trick. Manufacturing is never that clean nor simple.
@@musaran2 the human back end for pre loading parts and materials, ordering, Identifying manufacturing errors and correcting them, sorting sub standard materials. maintaining the machines. cleaning the facility. quality control. invoicing. and a vast array of outside the machine floor task means even though the factory is streamlined it still required a high number of human inputs.
Helped me to help my family, we are poor and I want to change our life, fund my transport project in my country please😢😥 or give me alms😞 don't take me for a scammer I just need to be helped
There’s a lot of buzzwords in every sentence a clear indication of hype. It happens with others automobile “modern” factories. Show us the outputs.
1:35 so each region will have its own microfactory?
How many vans can a single micro factory make in a day?
They say that in the video, 10.000 per year running 2 shifts. Not sure if a single vehicle is finished in one day though.
27 apparently!
Fantastic idea! I hope it succeeds!
What stage of series funding are you in?
This is something we need to think, it saves time, money, transportation.
You will need to create thousands of microfactories. How do you coordinate a supply chain for each one of them? Sounds not efficient at all.
Napo reminds me of JP from Grandma's Boy. Much love 😁
Economies of scale: *Exists*
ARRIVAL: Let's not do that XD
Almost all car manufacturers have large facilities to save costs, they might be on to something
@@user47362 ill come back to this comment in a few months
just reminding you
Hahaha these guys talking about in-house tools while just using standard ROS tools. Ooooh look at me rendering my 3rd party point cloud library in Gazebo. Using default Kuka programming software for their industrial robots. As an actual software engineer working in robotics I haven't seen anything remotely custom or impressive. Also the abuse of the word AI is top notch meme level.
100% meme content. I work with large factory automation and showed some of my coworkers this, absolutely nothing of what Arrival is doing is novel.
@@robertrowland9334 unfortunately investors love such meme
The whole industry abuses the word. So it's not really new
Seems great but only if your aim is to low production... Is arrival aiming at low scales?
the micro factory: one step closer to universal constructors. i’m in
is it possible to build & fabricate such micro factories in the outskirts of Stockholm, Sweden??? how much real estate do you require to set up such a factory??? available real estate is more than 10.3 acres!!! please advise!!!
Please guys deliver soon because otherwise there is still some doubt about how legit arrival is.
cars are extremely difficult to build for sales. bringing a cart to markets takes enormous amounts of time and money
You're most welcome in India.
"solves all of those problems" k
Just got a strong "Nikola Trucks" vibe from watching this. Hope it`s not the case.
Do you guys update your windows regularly?
I'm game...open to learning new things to help push boundries.
It is not clear to me what they are bringing to the table to enable an economical miniaturization of a car factory.
The hurdles to miniaturization do not lie in the automation/ software space, but rather in the large equipment required to move and form metal.
Check out some of their other videos. They are not using metal, but some sort of carbon fiber that they make in-house off of the raw fiber on rolls.
great concept Neo
this definitely the red planet technology, I really liked
1:46 Napo thinks hes a real life cyber punk character... I love it.
Do you guys use ROS?
Awesome!
if I understand correctly this would mostly benefit from less transport and less strain on surrounding labor. While the traditional assembly line mostly benefits from the super efficient assembly proces. However, the world as I see it is growing in the direction of self driving and automation, so the weaknesses of the traditional model are being resolved. Which of course means that the benefits of this model shrink. I wish you all the best, especially with other products, but I think this doesn't make sense for cars. Especially once they can drive themselves to the customer.
Must be Burning 💸 like wild🔥 . I'd like to know how they convince investors to spend on concept that bends every logic.
I may be in an idiot but are they focusing on milling parts instead of casting them like they do with most cars? If so that’s pretty nice.
I want to hear more from Napo. Let's get into the technicals!
Ohmmmmmmmmm.......
By the way, this is a smart and very interesting approach and I hope it scales. However, Elon is not any kind of fool...
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At first, it was an artisan or two building something from start to finish.
Next comes Ford's production line concentrating one repetitive task to one employee to produce things faster.
Next robots come to replace the humans doing those repetitive tasks but still only does a specific task to produce one item quickly.
Then this, where a robot or two complete an item from start to finish with the advantage of being flexible enough to produce more than product.
We have come full circle.
4:53 Talking about air quality while driving one of the most polluer SUV
"Community, AI, Process, DNA" All the keyword of a shady startup. They use a lot of big words and show a lot of impressive-looking store-bought hardware but I'm still not sure what exactly are they selling. Is this a software company? Automation company? Bus manufacturer? What exactly is the innovation they are bringing to the table? It sounded to me like their key tech is computer vision. Forgive me for not believing they've managed to make a huge breakthrough while Google, Amazon, Apple and NASA are still struggling with it.
Maybe I'm wrong and this is the next big innovation in whatever field these guys are supposed to be working in. But if I got the feeling they are the next WeWork. Packaging a centuries-old idea in tech startup's glamorous exterior.
The words "the robot will" are slightly alarming - surely you don't have to wait for your vision software to start production?
This all looks like an expensive research project. I don't think they're anywhere near automating vehicle production. I would personally not invest. There are much more advanced EV spacs that are already delivering vehicles to customers.
@@maximecb Interesting. Which ones are those? I’d love to watch their videos as well.
@@DownunderGraham For example TSLA, NIO and XPEV are actually delivering, stay away from NKLA and RIDE (Lordstown Motors)
Also Rivian is not delivering yet, but they seem to be pretty far. No IPO yet though.
There's Lion Electric (NGA), Proterra (ACTC), and Arcimoto (FUV) in North America to name a few.
@@navithefairy I'll add Fisker to the list, Henrik is really on to something. FSR (not on the roads yet though but seems very close)
is trevor milton from nikola somehow involved in this?
Looks like a very international staff. Diverse as it gets.
Terrible way fo looking at things..
So their solution is to use all of the same manufacturing cells, processes, machines, and robotics *already* used in a large factory but....fewer?
Make different models.. when will you create a camper van prototype? The van looks like a very good base to do so!
Amazing tech
How could I nurture my interest in this field?
Nerd out day and night with robotics for 10 years.
MOOCs
Its trading on robinhood under CIIC blank check company tilll it switches ticker symbol to ARVL on Thursday
i studied this for 10 years of my life to finally get a job in this field
You need background in computer science (algorithms, complexity) and mathematics (vectors, matrix...)
Looks like a Hairdressers convention
I always thought automated machine shops where the way for von neuman self replicators but i think this video is being falicious, what this tech would be really useful for is rapid prototyping imagine if you could input any 3d shape into a program and it would figure out a way of producing it automatically, it would be what 3d printers were supossed to be but way more versatile as you could use mutiple materials and woudnt have to worry about the other limitations of additive manufacturing
The robotic chief can also be the chief of fashion
I was hoping for *mobility* in the vertical space also !
He looks like a supervillian talking about his plans
This dude dresses like David from Shiit's Creek X1000
Can they scale? It looks too slow to pump out enough cars to be profitable.
Probably gonna a be more expensive per unit. Probably by quite a lot.
depends on how much human intervention is needed, if none, just a small team of engineers to keep it all running then it should be fairly cheap
@@abritishguy7295 no it’d have an insane logistics issue, you’d have to make massive numbers of small shipments, that costs more. Also engineers aren’t cheap even a small team costs a lot and this is a team for a factory that’d struggle to produce anywhere near the quantities they claim.
Human intervention is needed continuously, maintenance is required, there’s calibration, cleaning, repairs, replacing the parts that the robots actually use. Then you have to deal with stock control
There is a rule that you want as little things in stock as possible because that is money being lost (as old models are replaced that stock can no longer be used, and you tie up massive amounts of money in that stock).
But in this case orders would vary and be less predictable, this is because of the adaptability, and the small daily variations because of this would be a much larger percentage of cars manufactured
Thus because orders are less predictable more stock is required to buffer out the unpredictability, this multiplied out to reach a scale similar to real world manufacturing would mean a truly massive increase in stock and therefore massive increase in cost
R-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-evoloutionizing the r-r-r-r-r-r-r-obots.
Automobile companies are producing a car in a Minute. How will this system and Technology helps to achieve those types of Production rate...?
very slow movement for all robot. not sure this is the only for the marketing. show the real production U factory.
Microfacory, where robots are liberated from the constraints of the production line processes.
No mention of factory efficiency. Comparisons between large and small factories.
Amazing, crazy I never heard of you guys!
Is there an actual working factory i could visit yet?
Yes, you can visit the empty factory space where this was filmed...
@@f.d.6667 I was going to give you points for "technically accurate" but I don't think that matches the "working" bit.
@@jonwatte4293 yeah this can’t work, it’s not feasible from everything we know about manufacturing. This is trying to be WeWork of factories
@@chrissmith3587 Small scale local manufacturing can actually be a future business!
If you don't need the manufacturing line, and don't need massive mold/forging dies, economy of scale isn't as important, and reacting to local markets can allow a real business to thrive.
There's a few "ifs" in there -- this factory probably could never make a flat screen TV, for example.
If there are enough products that are more about custom assembly, this could be something.
But the marketing videos contain enough computer renders to give me pause.
Perfect
Should dual list on the London stock exchange
Napo reminds me of Kamski from Detroit: Become Human :D
The Microfactory could potentially capitalize on existing yet vacant industrial spaces and quantify the manufacturing equipment locally when needed. This could be critical in many countries where real-estate, tight urban spaces, and limited production scale are factored into deciding where to manufacture these vehicles. This could also help with other industrial products such as medical equipment, electronics, and other finished goods to be locally manufactured into the future. Smart move by Arrival. If Arrival expand their industrial engineering work, they could automate countries and industries facing high consumer demand and in short supply of manpower. This concept has the potential into manifesting into a major strategic saving in costs, efficiency, and economy of scale.
rofl at its best! I saw prototype shops with more output... lol
Arrival has now departed.
I see no stamping plant, no paint shop, no battery or motor assembly shop.
Just a body and interior assembly shop?
So their goal is to just do the final assembly near the city and still use conventional manufacturing for all the child parts?
Isn't this something like building a car out of a kit? Didn't Ford and other manufacturers try this long time back?
Yeah I sold my shares immediately as soon as I saw that muppet with the earrings.
So many red flags. Chief among them, no mention of headwinds. How big is the market for custom vehicles? Maybe Ford was on to something with economies of scale and the assembly line.