THANKS! Rodney does balance his board. I ran into Daewon Song one day, (we actually know each other), and he had seen the video a few days prior. He totally agreed that a balanced board helps, and also mentioned how Rodney is really into it. This is a good thing, because a skater is only as good as his equipment will allow him to be. If it doesn't matter then why don't we still use the same boards from the 60's? Innovations allow the sport to progress. Keeping it current hinders progression.
Yes, This may seem way way out there. It's not intended at all for the average skater. This is more of an advanced level thing, for those who want consistency with their boards. Sure, once you grind a little off the deck, or the trucks lean to one side the deck is not perfectly balanced anymore, but it is actually balanced. It still has a center point, are center area. Every deck is different, and many skaters, including pros, have to adjust to the inconsistencies. It can be very frustrating every single time to adjust to a new deck. Higher level skaters go through decks more often, so they deal with this issue more. AND OF COURSE a lot of people think this is stupid and not for them or way over thinking, and stupid OCD. That's fine. People just want to go skate, and so do I. Again, its not for everyone. I personally know that Rodney Mullen does this. Most pros don't do this, because they don't know about it. Not every pro is completely educated and knows everything about skate products and how they function. They are just very talented skaters. Anyway, what this does is eliminate the struggle of adjusting to the inconsistencies from one deck to another, and having a deck that flips more symmetrically and flips much closer to a center axis. Why does that matter? You can learn tricks faster, have better flips more consistently (yes, the word of the day), slam less often, and ride deck after deck that flips the same way. It's just an added advantage, and a lot of skaters care about having the best equipment. Pro golfers, hockey players, tennis players, baseball players, surfers, snowboarders, and skaters cannot use sticks or 2x4's as their equipment/setup. They possess all the talent and skills within themselves and their body to be professional athletes, but they can not be pros without the right equipment/setup. The information in this video is absolutely true. It does improve skating. Is it silly, weird, dumb, a waste of time, and overthinking? Of course to a lot of people, absolutely. But some people do care.
amen bro. It's not about the board being perfectly balanced by lead tape. The deck is already not balanced with the nose being 1/2" Longer than the tail from the start. Also most flip tricks arent about needing a perfectly balanced deck, its about being able to catch your trick.
***** I saw a man today that skated with no nose on his board he could do everything that he doeas on normal board. Seems that we have that power to change possibility to our favor no matter the conditions.
Won't the board become unbalanced after one or two hours of skating anyways? Skateboarding is destructive and the board slowly diminishes in many fashions as you skate it anyways. Idk, but it seems to me like this would waste time that you could use getting familiar with your setup, popping properly and controlling the board with your feet
Rat Vision - Skateboard Tech its called breaking in the board man no one really should worry about your board being imbalanced .. and ATM is a cheap board compare that to a chocolate or baker or habitat ... once you break in the board you dont have to worry about it being balanced because by that time you will already be used to it.
+Cory Davis This is a complete waste of time, as Cory states. My boards last about 5 sessions skating, then they are done. Chipped, no paint (loses weight again), loses weight through fish tailing etc etc. it also depends on the concave, and the heights and usage of the nose and tail. It's a nice theory, but holds no practicality at all.
I can honestly see that too haha i mean im 12 but i can kickflip heelflip varial flip and frontside heelflip ans like all the basics but everyone starts at different times i started 5 monthes ago and alot of my friends skate with me including skaters a little older than me so i got alot better really fast
***** not with ollies but with other tricks like heelflips i had the problem of my body turing backside then i fixed it tryng to make a 90 fs heelflip.
***** the best way to improve ollies is jumping over obstacles, even if they are are small like 1 skateboard in the begining. Eventually you will get it properly
Been skating 20 years now... No one and I mean fucking no one has ever not landed a trick due to an unbalanced board gtfooh these younger generations will look for any reason they can find to not take ownership for sucking at any one particular thing.. lol that's life yo. Not everyone will be good at shit get over it Jesus
This video was good education, I watched it 4 months ago before I went to buy a complete new set, I balanced the board as much as humanly possible, and I do notice a slight difference, Varial flips, and 360's are A LOT easier for me now, and it's common for me to land them without having to much trouble, but do keep in mind I have skated for a long time, so don't assume this alone will make you a better skater, it'll just make life a little easier for the good skaters, you still need hard dedication and work. ^^
Finally someone who gets it. It's not going to make someone better. That's all skill. All it does is improve the board. It's just like having the right golf clubs, car for racing, scope for a gun, etc. The right parts an equipment make the job a lot easier. This does not make someone better, but subsequently they do become better by landing tricks easier.
Rat Vision - Skateboard Tech No it's stupid, after one day of skating the board is "unbalanced" just by normal wear. It's interesting from a technical standpoint, and to demonstrate the imperfections of decks, but in a practical sense it's quite useless. Maybe if you are invited to Tampa Pro or Street League...
milan0 It does in fact help, not only from a technical standpoint but also a psychological improvement. Of course it's going to get unbalanced again. But you can always rebalance it after a month, I've been doing it for about more than a year now on several decks.
You can adjust the tape, or keep riding. Of course the board will not be perfectly balanced after it wears down in areas, but it's not going to be as lopsided as it would be without lead tape.
Hey, my bmx bike has hollow tubes in the frame, handlebars, and forks. Should I maybe fill it with cement so it balances out the weight from having my pegs on the right side?
I put bearings inside my trucks, if that makes sense? If not, on the underside of the baseplate there is normally a pocket/cavity. put a few in there, it helped me tons, and I recently discovered the great Rodney mullen does this
yeah this could be a reason for not landing tricks but it also comes down to just adjusting with the unevenness ... you dont see andrew reynolds doing this when he sets up a board i mean if you want to use as an excuse for not properly skating then go ahead but just saying all this is not needed and in the end will take the whole fun aspect out of skating... i can really only see poser rich kids that act they skate doing something like this ...
in competetive sports a bit fo balance can mean a lot. i wouldnt do this at all (so, sooo far away from that skill level to notice a difference), but i can see it being useful
Baker PE you're really gonna play the sarcasm card because someone disagrees? very professional. weight has nothing to do with it, you need to catch the board WHILE its rotating. The second you pop an ollie or do a slide, its gonna grind matter away from the board and instantly make it unbalanced again. This is a fucking stupid idea. learn to skate and catch your fucking deck, it literally makes no difference. plus arent meant to be balanced, they are not symmetrical. fucking dipshit. if anyone sees this comment, DONT WASTE YOUR TIME. go learn to skate and perfect your TECHNIQUE instead of looking up videos and trying to find a quick fix. let me tell you right now, it cant and wont work.
tuffel that is bs and you know it... some sess are chill and some others get competitive. Skaters are some of the most competitive people I know, even if everyone is happy when someone lands something cool
As an ex-skateboarder and current tennis coach and player I find this video great! There are thousands of ways to customize a tennis racquet with thought-out lead placement and it makes a huge difference in the way you play. It also MATCHES your racquets which are all slightly different due to production error (same brand, same model). What ignorant commenters are missing from this video is that this lets you get a new deck yet not have a big adjustment period to it!
A better option for getting the point in the center the of the board is to drawing a line from the lower right bolt hole of the nose to the upper right bolt hole of the tail. Then you do the same with the oposite ones so you end up having a cross. The point where both lines cross is the exact center.
Name one pro that does this. There's no way they do. If you watch skateboarding a pro will break a board trying a trick and grab anybody's board that their with and land the trick, getting consistent with tricks is from practice not this balanced board bullshit.
TheTomoyo3000 They are pros for a reason. Because they mastered most of the tricks. Doing stuff like this will help things like tre flips or hard flips, Where the board being balanced will mean land or premo
+ElHajen Mullen mentions he used to add 2-3 bb's wrapped in electrical tape inside of riser pockets to change balance and add more weight toward board side using Indy trucks in a vid. I Forget which video, think it was an interview
We didn't use 4 quarters because it was not the exact amount of weight as 4 quarters. It was to give you an idea of how much weight could possibly be added. It's very minimal. Some boards could be much less. You never know how much of weight you need to add and where you need to add it. The lead tape may need to be added near the rail and the nose or tail. The tape allows for adjusting the weight easier.
That's a great idea. If you're "good enough" u can land tricks on old metal wheel boards from the 60's. That's what you're saying right? So, pretty much if your good enough to land tricks it doesn't matter what board u ride because you're good enough to land tricks on anything. Which means the equipment has nothing to with it. I think I get it now. It's all about skill and not about equipment. That means baseball players can hit home runs with hockey sticks, cool. I've got to delete this video.
And I thought I was neurotic about my setup. Seriously people just make sure your trucks are straight. This is just insanity. You're mind and body if you have even a week's experience of skating should make all the compensation you need if your board is "Unbalanced" Lmfao. This isn't for "advanced" skaters. It's just a gimmick.
How do you know your trucks are straight? Don't you ever complain about your setup? Don't you ever have those days where you know you're doing things right but your board just isn't flipping right? You could say it's just practice, or it actually could be your board. Measure your deck from the edge to the truck mounting holes, and do the same from the other side. Most likely the trucks are mounted straight, but they could be more on one side. You think this is just a gimmick, but that's just because you don't know physics, so you talk like you're an expert. You don't even think about wheel base, but wheel base from the holes to the tail and that effects leverage and pop. You just assume everything is perfect and it's all about the skater's skill level and practice. If that's true, why aren't we still skating the same tiny solid wood decks with metal wheels? I'm sure everyone thought urethane wheels were a gimmick too, right? Who needs better urethane wheels, when it's all about "experience" and practice? Who cares about faster bearings or lighter trucks, just push harder and workout your legs for higher pop, right? You don't need a better setup, because everything is a "gimmick".
Exactly! You have to know what you are doing. All this does is improve the board. Everyone still has to learn the tricks. When you know the tricks, and do them right with a board that flips perfectly, you can lands tricks easier/sooner and more often. Thanks for the comment.
The balance in the board he is talking about is when its in the air, for example when youre doing a kickflip the board might start turning into a different directions.
Here's a perfect example of someone who is not listening at all. When the board is flipping in the air you don't get to control it. It is controlled by the weight and physics of the board. If you kick a soccer ball at the goal and it has uneven weight distribution, it will spin off in the wrong direction. It's a ball, you can't predict which side is weighted and where to kick it to make it go straight while you're in movement. The same goes for anything else, especially a skateboard. You're manipulating a multi-dimensional object and ideally you want it to be evenly weighted so that when you apply force to make it spin, it does so in a predictable manner.
The problem with this video is a large majority of street skaters *pride* themselves in a "fuck that shit" attitude. They see this as nerdy bullshit, and they're the type to want to beat up nerds, not listen to them. Thus, I can totally understand why this video gets so much hate. With that, keep up the good work guys. You guys need to get in to snowboard equipment. I would be your first subscriber!
do a video about skate shoes and what makes better skate shoes and maybe you can do a history of the half cab or do a video on old school skate companys
Thanks nice comment.Glad to see someone gets it. Most everyone seems to be thinking that skill and equipment are the same thing, and that it doesn't matter what we skate all, it all takes practice. You could possess all the skill to be the next Rodney Mullen, but you can't be good or better if you skate on a 1960's board with metal wheels. Because that board doesn't have the attributes necessary to perform tricks. This video improves equipment, like urethane did for wheels, and that isn't skill.
can you substitute another type of metal tape to the ones you suggested to use here?i mean lead is definitely toxic and no amount of lead is safe,so im wondering if there is really an alternative for it.
If you don't have wheel bite you don't need them. They are also used to obviously raise the deck more off the ground. That is seriously a whole other video to go deep into. They don't have anything to do with prolonging the deck life. It just creates a different feeling like all parts do. It does effect tricks because now the tail has a farther distance to travel before hitting the ground, which causes the front leg to bend more as the nose gets higher. This can cause a slower but higher ollie.
with all respect, i believe some skateboards are supposed to be made imbalanced. some boards' noses are made bigger, some boards' sides are not parallel, some boards even have square tails. and if you skate, you know boards get worn out soon changing their weights. above all, i'm pretty sure skateboards' developers know much more than this guy:)
"Supposed to be made imbalanced". That is absolutely ridiculous. Who makes a product purposely bad. Surprisingly skateboard manufacturers are mostly Chinese. It's pretty obvious you're young and new to skateboarding.
***** You were right on, so I don't see why you disagree. That is the whole point with balancing equipment. It's to correct the imperfections and inconsistencies in manufacturing. it's why golfers and tennis players use lead tape, because even those machined parts are not perfect.
If you don't get it, and you don't care to improve your equipment that's entirely up to you. You don't have to like this or agree with it. You can put the lead tape in places you don't touch, and you may not need to place it in areas where you might touch it. You can cover it with a sticker too.
This is happening from your bushings/truck. Sometimes after landing a trick or pressing the board to one side a truck can stick a little. This is completely normal, and while riding everything is fine. Your weight evens it all out.
Wow, finally someone with a brain. We were actually going to show a a water bottle or a hammer, but we felt that people were smarter and would actually understand this. We were wrong. Thanks for the great comment, you nailed it.
+Evan Simpson Yes, This may seem way way out there. It's not intended at all for the average skater. This is more of an advanced level, for those who want consistency with their boards. Sure once you grind a little off the deck, or the trucks lean to one side the deck is not perfectly balanced anymore, but it is actually balanced. It still has a center point, are center area. Every deck is different, and many skaters, including pros, have to adjust to the inconsistencies. It can be very frustrating every single time to adjust to a new deck. Higher level skaters go through decks more often, so they deal with this issue more. AND OF COURSE a lot of people think this is stupid and not for them or way over thinking, and stupid OCD. That's fine. People just want to go skate, and so do I. Again, its not for everyone. I personally know that Rodney Mullen does this. Most pros don't do this, because they don't know about it. Not every pro is completely educated and knows everything about skate products and how they function. They are just very talented skaters. Anyway, what this does is eliminate the struggle of adjusting to the inconsistencies from one deck to another, and having a deck that flips more symmetrically and flips much closer to a center axis. Why does that matter? You can learn tricks faster, have better flips more consistently (yes, the word of the day), slam less often, and ride deck after deck that flips the same way. It's just an added advantage, and a lot of skaters care about having the best equipment. Pro golfers, hockey players, tennis players, baseball players, surfers, snowboarders, and skaters cannot use sticks or 2x4's as their equipment/setup. They possess all the talent and skills within themselves and their body to be professional athletes, but they can not be pros without the right equipment/setup. The information in this video is absolutely true. It does improve skating. Is it silly, weird, dumb, a waste of time, and overthinking? Of course to a lot of people, absolutely. But some people do care.
It's not about making your skill level better. What this does is make the board better. There is a difference. If you don't get it then ask yourself why you wear shoes that fit, or why a car tire needs to be balanced.
It doesn't hurt to do it at beginner level. You just won't notice a difference. The reason is that you don't consistently flip the board the way someone experienced is able to do. Experienced skaters can feel the difference from one board to another. So they will be able to feel the benefits of a balanced board.
What board are you riding? We can almost guarantee it's either the same exact board with a different graphic, or the same quality. Do you know where your board comes from at all?
Your front foot is only used to control and level the board after the board pops into the air. It's really all in the back foot. You can ollie without hardly moving the front foot at all (but you will land back on the tail). The front foot is just used to push the nose flat/level after you pop the board. So, stop kicking the board. Try not doing anything with your front foot and just work on your pop. Eventually you'll start to feel how it all works. The ollie is the hardest trick to learn.
Hey rat vision I've got a good one... I buy Nike team edition shoes and the soles are hard wich is perfect for me. and the heels don't slip off at all... then I bought a buznits addidas shoe and the heels slip off with every trick and the soles are soft and flimsy. I've been skating for almost half my life and know a lot in skateboarding, except what to do with these addidas. is there a way to keep the heel from coming off and is there a way to make the soles harder/ less soft/flimsy? I feel like I wasted money on these addidas.
Usually something that would require as much patience as this would drive me crazy, but I'm gonna buy a board specifically for learning tricks and try this out. Thanks for uploading these videos, I've learned a lot :D
This is very smart, I never would have thought of the board being unbalanced. Aha I will try this and see how it all works out. Thanks man :D and those face gestures in the beginning are so funny aha.
You could but it's actually much easier to balance the deck first. You could put the grip tape on first but you'd have to put the lead tape somewhere else. Placing it under the grip tape hides it perfectly out of the way. If you need to put lead tape next to the edge of the deck it would get torn off when doing slide. Plus, you'd end up touching the tape too.
This video was created for those who want to get better performance out of their board. It should make sense to anyone with half a brain. If something is going to rotate or spin evenly it needs to be balanced. Car tires are balanced. The Earth is balanced! This doesn't mess up any method. It improves skatings. We don't expect people to get it right away. Young people are so insecure that they have to hate and ridicule something first until someone "cool" tries it first. Then it's OK.
This works for all levels of skating but the only people who will notice are those who are more advanced, because they can feel the difference. Avid skaters are more consistent when flipping. They can feel the difference between a balanced and unbalanced board. Someone who is not consistent with flipping won't notice, but their equipment is perfect. This only makes the board better. It does not increase skill.
Thanks for the comment. Of course this is not for everyone. We didn't expect it to be. We also didn't expect a ton of ignorance and closed minds. This is only to show how to improve a decks performance. It's no different than how a Tennis or Golf player uses lead tape, and yet no one calls "bullshit" on that. Sure this may be anal retentive, but some people are into perfection. Some pros actually do this, and the majority of pros are anal about their setups.
Where on earth do you get your information? You must know a lot more than we do. It's pretty obvious. What boards should we use. Can you please give us a few brand names to choose from?
AWESOME! Only about 1 out of 100 people get this easy to understand concept. Are people getting dumber? It makes me wonder if kids just sit back and yell out "bullshit" in science class every day. Thanks for commenting. It's nice to see someone actually know about this. It's funny how no one here questions pro golfers or tennis players saying, "they are pro, they don't need this". People except it, but with skateboarding skaters think this is ridiculous. Thanks again for pointing out the facts
Dont listen to these guys man, your doing such a good job teaching people, having led tape is barely going to add weight to your board and improve balance to flip and spin tricks evenly, have anybody ever thought of when you push your board, your board goes into a different direction instead of straight? Because your trucks are unbalanced and shifted to one side like he mentioned in this video, Good job skateboardtech, you helped me out alot.
I would just like to say you're a legend for this video. I've always thought that it would be unbalanced but never really thought to balance it. i have a quick question. could you possibly link me one of those flexible rulers, or let me know what its called as i can't locate one. thanks dude.
interesting ideas man, do you think its best to ballence the board from between tip to nose, between the bolts, or some hybrid offset (half the range in tail:nose length)?
You're right about people, but I can still spin a top at different speeds. I can balance a stick on my finger with varying wind. I can also flip something in my hand and catch it the same way no matter how hard or how high I throw it in the air. You can take a stick and flip it in one time in the air at 2 feet high or 10 feet high. There's different power and force and mood there too, but the same result. You're missing the point about improving equipment, and realizing that skill is separate.
You're right, but that wear is gradual over time. You'll be using a balanced board, and while it wears away it is still going to perform better than it did unbalanced to begin with.
It may not be serious. You may have actually purchased it that way and noticed it later. A lot of decks are sold warped, almost everyone never notice it. The best way to see how much a deck is warped is to lay it on a flat surface where the nose and tail hang off the end. If the deck is warp it will rock back and forth on the surface and you can see how warped it is. Try this and get back to us.
Dur! Did you miss the part where we say this is for advanced skaters. You still have to have skill. You can't slap on Air Jordan's and slam dunk. All this does is correct the balance of the board for even, balanced flip rotations. It eliminates the issue of the board being the reason why a skater can't figure why he can't flip the board right, WHEN he knows he is doing right (because he has the skill.) Now do you get it?
i see what your saying dude but i had those days and i think its mostly knowing your foot placement and attitude. i try to always have fun and it just helps me focus on anything like hand rails, gaps anything big. But good video man
this guy's taken blaming his board to a whole new level
I want to see this guy skate, can anyone link me some of his stuff? He better be amazing pulling this balanced board shit
Keaton Stevens he said he does skate as hard anymore, he's mainly a filmer
@@Sk8bordinAdiction11 this video must be a joke, lol
THANKS! Rodney does balance his board. I ran into Daewon Song one day, (we actually know each other), and he had seen the video a few days prior. He totally agreed that a balanced board helps, and also mentioned how Rodney is really into it. This is a good thing, because a skater is only as good as his equipment will allow him to be. If it doesn't matter then why don't we still use the same boards from the 60's? Innovations allow the sport to progress. Keeping it current hinders progression.
Yes, This may seem way way out there. It's not intended at all for the average skater. This is more of an advanced level thing, for those who want consistency with their boards. Sure, once you grind a little off the deck, or the trucks lean to one side the deck is not perfectly balanced anymore, but it is actually balanced. It still has a center point, are center area. Every deck is different, and many skaters, including pros, have to adjust to the inconsistencies. It can be very frustrating every single time to adjust to a new deck. Higher level skaters go through decks more often, so they deal with this issue more. AND OF COURSE a lot of people think this is stupid and not for them or way over thinking, and stupid OCD. That's fine. People just want to go skate, and so do I.
Again, its not for everyone. I personally know that Rodney Mullen does this. Most pros don't do this, because they don't know about it. Not every pro is completely educated and knows everything about skate products and how they function. They are just very talented skaters.
Anyway, what this does is eliminate the struggle of adjusting to the inconsistencies from one deck to another, and having a deck that flips more symmetrically and flips much closer to a center axis. Why does that matter? You can learn tricks faster, have better flips more consistently (yes, the word of the day), slam less often, and ride deck after deck that flips the same way. It's just an added advantage, and a lot of skaters care about having the best equipment. Pro golfers, hockey players, tennis players, baseball players, surfers, snowboarders, and skaters cannot use sticks or 2x4's as their equipment/setup. They possess all the talent and skills within themselves and their body to be professional athletes, but they can not be pros without the right equipment/setup. The information in this video is absolutely true. It does improve skating. Is it silly, weird, dumb, a waste of time, and overthinking? Of course to a lot of people, absolutely. But some people do care.
I wish I could give this comment a million more likes.
Little detail here little detail there and you have few % more chance to land a trick. But real question is, is it worth it so much time.
Lol nope!
amen bro. It's not about the board being perfectly balanced by lead tape. The deck is already not balanced with the nose being 1/2" Longer than the tail from the start. Also most flip tricks arent about needing a perfectly balanced deck, its about being able to catch your trick.
***** I saw a man today that skated with no nose on his board he could do everything that he doeas on normal board.
Seems that we have that power to change possibility to our favor no matter the conditions.
Won't the board become unbalanced after one or two hours of skating anyways? Skateboarding is destructive and the board slowly diminishes in many fashions as you skate it anyways. Idk, but it seems to me like this would waste time that you could use getting familiar with your setup, popping properly and controlling the board with your feet
The board is still balanced even after some wear.
Rat Vision - Skateboard Tech its called breaking in the board man no one really should worry about your board being imbalanced .. and ATM is a cheap board compare that to a chocolate or baker or habitat ... once you break in the board you dont have to worry about it being balanced because by that time you will already be used to it.
+Quinnton Parker not really
+Quinnton Parker area
+Cory Davis This is a complete waste of time, as Cory states. My boards last about 5 sessions skating, then they are done. Chipped, no paint (loses weight again), loses weight through fish tailing etc etc. it also depends on the concave, and the heights and usage of the nose and tail. It's a nice theory, but holds no practicality at all.
Instructions not clear enough, got lead poisoning
Dumbass
***** I don't remember and doctor said I shouldn't eat lead anymore
***** I think so
you're supposed to wear gloves
I can really imagine a bunch of 12 year old chubby garage skaters doing that for hours while they can't even pop an ollie
I can honestly see that too haha i mean im 12 but i can kickflip heelflip varial flip and frontside heelflip ans like all the basics but everyone starts at different times i started 5 monthes ago and alot of my friends skate with me including skaters a little older than me so i got alot better really fast
+reyes18 try to spin back side then should give you a straight pop.
***** not with ollies but with other tricks like heelflips i had the problem of my body turing backside then i fixed it tryng to make a 90 fs heelflip.
+Anthony tolentino sick dude you got fs heels
***** the best way to improve ollies is jumping over obstacles, even if they are are small like 1 skateboard in the begining. Eventually you will get it properly
spent 5 hours doing this and got it perfect, went and popped my first ollie and snapped my board.
fuck my life.
Nope ,nope nope nope nope
doooood tht sucks
Buddy that is heart breaking
how do you snap a deck on an ollie...
VNIMAL landing incorrectly. very easy done. too much weight on the tail or nose or the centre of the board and snap.
Hey! Is anyone else not trying this, like... ever?
What up dude? this is way over-board...get it? Sorry...and Ja....not doing ever.
Scott Ryan yep
nope
Been skating 20 years now... No one and I mean fucking no one has ever not landed a trick due to an unbalanced board gtfooh these younger generations will look for any reason they can find to not take ownership for sucking at any one particular thing.. lol that's life yo. Not everyone will be good at shit get over it Jesus
Thing is, after you skate on that for a couple of days it'll become unbalanced again.. I think it's too much work for what it's worth
JumboStevo if you do single trick on it itll do that lmao
This video was good education, I watched it 4 months ago before I went to buy a complete new set, I balanced the board as much as humanly possible, and I do notice a slight difference, Varial flips, and 360's are A LOT easier for me now, and it's common for me to land them without having to much trouble, but do keep in mind I have skated for a long time, so don't assume this alone will make you a better skater, it'll just make life a little easier for the good skaters, you still need hard dedication and work. ^^
Finally someone who gets it. It's not going to make someone better. That's all skill. All it does is improve the board. It's just like having the right golf clubs, car for racing, scope for a gun, etc. The right parts an equipment make the job a lot easier. This does not make someone better, but subsequently they do become better by landing tricks easier.
Thank you for the video at least, it has done its purpose with me.
Rat Vision - Skateboard Tech No it's stupid, after one day of skating the board is "unbalanced" just by normal wear. It's interesting from a technical standpoint, and to demonstrate the imperfections of decks, but in a practical sense it's quite useless. Maybe if you are invited to Tampa Pro or Street League...
milan0 It does in fact help, not only from a technical standpoint but also a psychological improvement. Of course it's going to get unbalanced again. But you can always rebalance it after a month, I've been doing it for about more than a year now on several decks.
+Fck dis (Aelax3) pick up a skateboard from some friend and compare to you skating your skateboard... and let's see the results...
You can adjust the tape, or keep riding. Of course the board will not be perfectly balanced after it wears down in areas, but it's not going to be as lopsided as it would be without lead tape.
do a few tricks and get slight razor tail, now the weight is fucked again, there is no point in doing this..
Gary Burger you are exactly right this guy over thinks it way too much
Gary Burger he never post a video that he doing tricks or riding it.
+CYonezu agreed. Complete overkill
THANK YOU! Some people totally get it and others still think the world is flat. Thank you for your support.
Hey, my bmx bike has hollow tubes in the frame, handlebars, and forks. Should I maybe fill it with cement so it balances out the weight from having my pegs on the right side?
Yes! You should totally do it. If heard if you eat it, it could help with your body too.
+Rat Vision - Skateboard Tech hahaha dude u r fucking guts hahha
I put bearings inside my trucks, if that makes sense? If not, on the underside of the baseplate there is normally a pocket/cavity. put a few in there, it helped me tons, and I recently discovered the great Rodney mullen does this
did it really help u tons
Yup.
MY ENTIRE BOARD IS COVERED IN LEAD TAPE AND WEIGHS 30 LBS NOW YOU OWE ME A NEW BOARD!!!!!!!
Makes so much sense! Now whos going to make a tool to find the exact middle of a board? ;) great video brotha!
Remember everyone, if you don't have rubber gloves, then use band aids on your fingertips.
Lead poisoning is completely avoidable, people don't lift lit candles by the wick.
Il Papa yes
yeah this could be a reason for not landing tricks but it also comes down to just adjusting with the unevenness ... you dont see andrew reynolds doing this when he sets up a board i mean if you want to use as an excuse for not properly skating then go ahead but just saying all this is not needed and in the end will take the whole fun aspect out of skating... i can really only see poser rich kids that act they skate doing something like this ...
in competetive sports a bit fo balance can mean a lot. i wouldnt do this at all (so, sooo far away from that skill level to notice a difference), but i can see it being useful
+James Garcia Some real shit
skateboarding is not a competitive sport,- x-games wanna tell you that it is maybe ?
Baker PE you're really gonna play the sarcasm card because someone disagrees? very professional. weight has nothing to do with it, you need to catch the board WHILE its rotating. The second you pop an ollie or do a slide, its gonna grind matter away from the board and instantly make it unbalanced again. This is a fucking stupid idea. learn to skate and catch your fucking deck, it literally makes no difference. plus arent meant to be balanced, they are not symmetrical. fucking dipshit. if anyone sees this comment, DONT WASTE YOUR TIME. go learn to skate and perfect your TECHNIQUE instead of looking up videos and trying to find a quick fix. let me tell you right now, it cant and wont work.
tuffel that is bs and you know it... some sess are chill and some others get competitive. Skaters are some of the most competitive people I know, even if everyone is happy when someone lands something cool
Or just don't suck at skating
As an ex-skateboarder and current tennis coach and player I find this video great! There are thousands of ways to customize a tennis racquet with thought-out lead placement and it makes a huge difference in the way you play. It also MATCHES your racquets which are all slightly different due to production error (same brand, same model). What ignorant commenters are missing from this video is that this lets you get a new deck yet not have a big adjustment period to it!
A better option for getting the point in the center the of the board is to drawing a line from the lower right bolt hole of the nose to the upper right bolt hole of the tail. Then you do the same with the oposite ones so you end up having a cross. The point where both lines cross is the exact center.
Nice to hear you did it. You may have used more than was needed. You really shouldn't have to use too much if you place it the right spots.
Name one pro that does this. There's no way they do. If you watch skateboarding a pro will break a board trying a trick and grab anybody's board that their with and land the trick, getting consistent with tricks is from practice not this balanced board bullshit.
You're thinking about skill and the board as one thing. If you don't get it, you don't get it.
TheTomoyo3000
They are pros for a reason. Because they mastered most of the tricks. Doing stuff like this will help things like tre flips or hard flips, Where the board being balanced will mean land or premo
+ElHajen Mullen mentions he used to add 2-3 bb's wrapped in electrical tape inside of riser pockets to change balance and add more weight toward board side using Indy trucks in a vid. I Forget which video, think it was an interview
We didn't use 4 quarters because it was not the exact amount of weight as 4 quarters. It was to give you an idea of how much weight could possibly be added. It's very minimal. Some boards could be much less. You never know how much of weight you need to add and where you need to add it. The lead tape may need to be added near the rail and the nose or tail. The tape allows for adjusting the weight easier.
nonsense!!! it makes your board heavier if u want to land more tricks ,improve ur balance not the board's
Thanks for stoping by San Diego!
That's a great idea. If you're "good enough" u can land tricks on old metal wheel boards from the 60's. That's what you're saying right? So, pretty much if your good enough to land tricks it doesn't matter what board u ride because you're good enough to land tricks on anything. Which means the equipment has nothing to with it. I think I get it now. It's all about skill and not about equipment. That means baseball players can hit home runs with hockey sticks, cool. I've got to delete this video.
thanks man i been skating for awhile and honestly never thought about balancing my board, cant wait to see if it helps out
And I thought I was neurotic about my setup. Seriously people just make sure your trucks are straight. This is just insanity. You're mind and body if you have even a week's experience of skating should make all the compensation you need if your board is "Unbalanced" Lmfao. This isn't for "advanced" skaters. It's just a gimmick.
How do you know your trucks are straight? Don't you ever complain about your setup? Don't you ever have those days where you know you're doing things right but your board just isn't flipping right? You could say it's just practice, or it actually could be your board. Measure your deck from the edge to the truck mounting holes, and do the same from the other side. Most likely the trucks are mounted straight, but they could be more on one side. You think this is just a gimmick, but that's just because you don't know physics, so you talk like you're an expert. You don't even think about wheel base, but wheel base from the holes to the tail and that effects leverage and pop. You just assume everything is perfect and it's all about the skater's skill level and practice. If that's true, why aren't we still skating the same tiny solid wood decks with metal wheels? I'm sure everyone thought urethane wheels were a gimmick too, right? Who needs better urethane wheels, when it's all about "experience" and practice? Who cares about faster bearings or lighter trucks, just push harder and workout your legs for higher pop, right? You don't need a better setup, because everything is a "gimmick".
Thank you for the honest comment. Finally someone who gets it. It's not for everyone.
Wouldn't that also weight the board down? Everyone has bad days skating, doesn't mean you need to start sticking rounded pieces of shit on it.
No it won't weigh the board down. It's ok if you don't get it.
It is weighing the board down in all of you videos you act like you know about skating but you don't even skate
Thanks for the advice. You're right. It's a slow process to becoming unbalanced, which is better than skating something completely lopsided.
6:00 don't forget to mall grab afterwards
Exactly! You have to know what you are doing. All this does is improve the board. Everyone still has to learn the tricks. When you know the tricks, and do them right with a board that flips perfectly, you can lands tricks easier/sooner and more often. Thanks for the comment.
Spend more time balancing yourself, don't blame the board please....
The balance in the board he is talking about is when its in the air, for example when youre doing a kickflip the board might start turning into a different directions.
Here's a perfect example of someone who is not listening at all. When the board is flipping in the air you don't get to control it. It is controlled by the weight and physics of the board. If you kick a soccer ball at the goal and it has uneven weight distribution, it will spin off in the wrong direction. It's a ball, you can't predict which side is weighted and where to kick it to make it go straight while you're in movement. The same goes for anything else, especially a skateboard. You're manipulating a multi-dimensional object and ideally you want it to be evenly weighted so that when you apply force to make it spin, it does so in a predictable manner.
How is Stereo the best? Do you think they make their own decks exclusively?
The problem with this video is a large majority of street skaters *pride* themselves in a "fuck that shit" attitude. They see this as nerdy bullshit, and they're the type to want to beat up nerds, not listen to them. Thus, I can totally understand why this video gets so much hate. With that, keep up the good work guys. You guys need to get in to snowboard equipment. I would be your first subscriber!
You're one of the most ignorant people I have seen in my life.
Nop, this is just plain bullshit...
you must not skate. this idea makes no fucking sense. its a horrible gimmicky waste of time and this guy is a total moron.
The stupidity in this comment is "TOO DAMN HIGH"
do a video about skate shoes and what makes better skate shoes and maybe you can do a history of the half cab or do a video on old school skate companys
This may balance your board but in my opinion you don't need it just get to know your board and Go skate
Thanks nice comment.Glad to see someone gets it. Most everyone seems to be thinking that skill and equipment are the same thing, and that it doesn't matter what we skate all, it all takes practice. You could possess all the skill to be the next Rodney Mullen, but you can't be good or better if you skate on a 1960's board with metal wheels. Because that board doesn't have the attributes necessary to perform tricks. This video improves equipment, like urethane did for wheels, and that isn't skill.
Now let's see some of the footage that you were talking about.
can you substitute another type of metal tape to the ones you suggested to use here?i mean lead is definitely toxic and no amount of lead is safe,so im wondering if there is really an alternative for it.
Not really, because lead is heavy. The tape is razor thin. Once it's under the grip tape you're fine.
milan0 improbable
i dont even skate... why am i here...
If you don't have wheel bite you don't need them. They are also used to obviously raise the deck more off the ground. That is seriously a whole other video to go deep into. They don't have anything to do with prolonging the deck life. It just creates a different feeling like all parts do. It does effect tricks because now the tail has a farther distance to travel before hitting the ground, which causes the front leg to bend more as the nose gets higher. This can cause a slower but higher ollie.
with all respect, i believe some skateboards are supposed to be made imbalanced. some boards' noses are made bigger, some boards' sides are not parallel, some boards even have square tails. and if you skate, you know boards get worn out soon changing their weights. above all, i'm pretty sure skateboards' developers know much more than this guy:)
"Supposed to be made imbalanced". That is absolutely ridiculous. Who makes a product purposely bad. Surprisingly skateboard manufacturers are mostly Chinese. It's pretty obvious you're young and new to skateboarding.
***** You were right on, so I don't see why you disagree. That is the whole point with balancing equipment. It's to correct the imperfections and inconsistencies in manufacturing. it's why golfers and tennis players use lead tape, because even those machined parts are not perfect.
***** did u really have to say that lol
+shosho1080 you can't argue with physics man
If you don't get it, and you don't care to improve your equipment that's entirely up to you. You don't have to like this or agree with it. You can put the lead tape in places you don't touch, and you may not need to place it in areas where you might touch it. You can cover it with a sticker too.
I get my lead from a Flint distributor.
This is happening from your bushings/truck. Sometimes after landing a trick or pressing the board to one side a truck can stick a little. This is completely normal, and while riding everything is fine. Your weight evens it all out.
thnx this helps and for you all haters don't hate go skate
Wow, finally someone with a brain. We were actually going to show a a water bottle or a hammer, but we felt that people were smarter and would actually understand this. We were wrong. Thanks for the great comment, you nailed it.
If you changed the title to how to balance your skateboard there would be less hate. I couldnt give a shit tho your videos are sick
Oh thanks Madeline. What decks should we buy?
I feel like you guys (while being incredibly informative don't get me wrong) sometimes are overthinking skateboarding
+Evan Simpson Yes, This may seem way way out there. It's not intended at all for the average skater. This is more of an advanced level, for those who want consistency with their boards. Sure once you grind a little off the deck, or the trucks lean to one side the deck is not perfectly balanced anymore, but it is actually balanced. It still has a center point, are center area. Every deck is different, and many skaters, including pros, have to adjust to the inconsistencies. It can be very frustrating every single time to adjust to a new deck. Higher level skaters go through decks more often, so they deal with this issue more. AND OF COURSE a lot of people think this is stupid and not for them or way over thinking, and stupid OCD. That's fine. People just want to go skate, and so do I.
Again, its not for everyone. I personally know that Rodney Mullen does this. Most pros don't do this, because they don't know about it. Not every pro is completely educated and knows everything about skate products and how they function. They are just very talented skaters.
Anyway, what this does is eliminate the struggle of adjusting to the inconsistencies from one deck to another, and having a deck that flips more symmetrically and flips much closer to a center axis. Why does that matter? You can learn tricks faster, have better flips more consistently (yes, the word of the day), slam less often, and ride deck after deck that flips the same way. It's just an added advantage, and a lot of skaters care about having the best equipment. Pro golfers, hockey players, tennis players, baseball players, surfers, snowboarders, and skaters cannot use sticks or 2x4's as their equipment/setup. They possess all the talent and skills within themselves and their body to be professional athletes, but they can not be pros without the right equipment/setup. The information in this video is absolutely true. It does improve skating. Is it silly, weird, dumb, a waste of time, and overthinking? Of course to a lot of people, absolutely. But some people do care.
+Rat Vision - Skateboard Tech hey guys regardless of what I said you're super educated down there! Shred on🤘🏻
copy and paste to the max
It's not about making your skill level better. What this does is make the board better. There is a difference. If you don't get it then ask yourself why you wear shoes that fit, or why a car tire needs to be balanced.
pointless
It doesn't hurt to do it at beginner level. You just won't notice a difference. The reason is that you don't consistently flip the board the way someone experienced is able to do. Experienced skaters can feel the difference from one board to another. So they will be able to feel the benefits of a balanced board.
do you even skate?
What board are you riding? We can almost guarantee it's either the same exact board with a different graphic, or the same quality. Do you know where your board comes from at all?
that hairline though
mr stabby 78 he looks like the lead singer of sum41 xD
Hey awesome vids. I was wondering if you were ever going to show us some footage of you actually skating?
This is stupid. Here the reason, add more weight to the board make harder to do flip trip
Seemed pretty simple to us and worked out pretty good too.
This is bullshit... The time you put into 'balancing the board' is not worth all the work, plus it will suck even more when you break a board...
Thanks for having our back.
dude r u kidding
If that is all it ways when you get razor tale whith in like a week one side will already be lighter and of balenced ?
Even with a little wear the board is still balanced.
+Remmy 315 shut up lmao
just fucking skate
Your front foot is only used to control and level the board after the board pops into the air. It's really all in the back foot. You can ollie without hardly moving the front foot at all (but you will land back on the tail). The front foot is just used to push the nose flat/level after you pop the board. So, stop kicking the board. Try not doing anything with your front foot and just work on your pop. Eventually you'll start to feel how it all works. The ollie is the hardest trick to learn.
I still suck
Hey rat vision I've got a good one... I buy Nike team edition shoes and the soles are hard wich is perfect for me. and the heels don't slip off at all... then I bought a buznits addidas shoe and the heels slip off with every trick and the soles are soft and flimsy. I've been skating for almost half my life and know a lot in skateboarding, except what to do with these addidas. is there a way to keep the heel from coming off and is there a way to make the soles harder/ less soft/flimsy? I feel like I wasted money on these addidas.
Why did I waste my time...
Usually something that would require as much patience as this would drive me crazy, but I'm gonna buy a board specifically for learning tricks and try this out. Thanks for uploading these videos, I've learned a lot :D
this guy is ridiculous >
this is actually really cook, im going to buy a new complete next week and when i put it all together i will definitely try this, thanks!
land more tricks, dont watching this video
Is this while riding it or just when it rolls by itself?
If you can't balance on a skateboard, you don't need one
This is very smart, I never would have thought of the board being unbalanced. Aha I will try this and see how it all works out. Thanks man :D and those face gestures in the beginning are so funny aha.
waste of time and money.
You could but it's actually much easier to balance the deck first. You could put the grip tape on first but you'd have to put the lead tape somewhere else. Placing it under the grip tape hides it perfectly out of the way. If you need to put lead tape next to the edge of the deck it would get torn off when doing slide. Plus, you'd end up touching the tape too.
Are you in Torrance?
This video was created for those who want to get better performance out of their board. It should make sense to anyone with half a brain. If something is going to rotate or spin evenly it needs to be balanced. Car tires are balanced. The Earth is balanced! This doesn't mess up any method. It improves skatings. We don't expect people to get it right away. Young people are so insecure that they have to hate and ridicule something first until someone "cool" tries it first. Then it's OK.
This works for all levels of skating but the only people who will notice are those who are more advanced, because they can feel the difference. Avid skaters are more consistent when flipping. They can feel the difference between a balanced and unbalanced board. Someone who is not consistent with flipping won't notice, but their equipment is perfect. This only makes the board better. It does not increase skill.
Thanks for the comment. Of course this is not for everyone. We didn't expect it to be. We also didn't expect a ton of ignorance and closed minds. This is only to show how to improve a decks performance. It's no different than how a Tennis or Golf player uses lead tape, and yet no one calls "bullshit" on that. Sure this may be anal retentive, but some people are into perfection. Some pros actually do this, and the majority of pros are anal about their setups.
Where on earth do you get your information? You must know a lot more than we do. It's pretty obvious. What boards should we use. Can you please give us a few brand names to choose from?
Awesome how you applied static balancing to skateboard decks! Makes sense!
what size of wheels do you have on this board ?
Looks somewhere around 52-54mm
AWESOME! Only about 1 out of 100 people get this easy to understand concept. Are people getting dumber? It makes me wonder if kids just sit back and yell out "bullshit" in science class every day. Thanks for commenting. It's nice to see someone actually know about this. It's funny how no one here questions pro golfers or tennis players saying, "they are pro, they don't need this". People except it, but with skateboarding skaters think this is ridiculous. Thanks again for pointing out the facts
Dont listen to these guys man, your doing such a good job teaching people, having led tape is barely going to add weight to your board and improve balance to flip and spin tricks evenly, have anybody ever thought of when you push your board, your board goes into a different direction instead of straight? Because your trucks are unbalanced and shifted to one side like he mentioned in this video, Good job skateboardtech, you helped me out alot.
I would just like to say you're a legend for this video. I've always thought that it would be unbalanced but never really thought to balance it. i have a quick question. could you possibly link me one of those flexible rulers, or let me know what its called as i can't locate one.
thanks dude.
interesting ideas man, do you think its best to ballence the board from between tip to nose, between the bolts, or some hybrid offset (half the range in tail:nose length)?
You're right about people, but I can still spin a top at different speeds. I can balance a stick on my finger with varying wind. I can also flip something in my hand and catch it the same way no matter how hard or how high I throw it in the air. You can take a stick and flip it in one time in the air at 2 feet high or 10 feet high. There's different power and force and mood there too, but the same result. You're missing the point about improving equipment, and realizing that skill is separate.
You're right, but that wear is gradual over time. You'll be using a balanced board, and while it wears away it is still going to perform better than it did unbalanced to begin with.
It may not be serious. You may have actually purchased it that way and noticed it later. A lot of decks are sold warped, almost everyone never notice it. The best way to see how much a deck is warped is to lay it on a flat surface where the nose and tail hang off the end. If the deck is warp it will rock back and forth on the surface and you can see how warped it is. Try this and get back to us.
Dur! Did you miss the part where we say this is for advanced skaters. You still have to have skill. You can't slap on Air Jordan's and slam dunk. All this does is correct the balance of the board for even, balanced flip rotations. It eliminates the issue of the board being the reason why a skater can't figure why he can't flip the board right, WHEN he knows he is doing right (because he has the skill.) Now do you get it?
i see what your saying dude but i had those days and i think its mostly knowing your foot placement and attitude. i try to always have fun and it just helps me focus on anything like hand rails, gaps anything big. But good video man
Woo. These trucks will be featured in our video that is coming out about trucks and different metals used.
It doesn't go under the deck where you would board slide. Lead tape is razor thin so you won't feel it and you can't see it under the grip either.