This channel needs way more subs. Way more likes. Way more shares. Way more thumbs up. That is some very deep technical details. Most amps look pretty on the outside, the insides are what matter.
0:23 as a guy with 3 dead smart 5s in my possession, I'm very eager to see what I can learn from these videos. I watched your full guide video you did with the SFB sundown and learned a lot! I'm learning a lot from all of your videos and super grateful to have found this one. I'm looking to become the St. Louis MO amp repair guy here in the states and your videos are next to golds worth for me. Thanks so much
Free PIC and Mosfets??? ok Taramps has just risen to my ultimate goto amp!! As for you SAM, no gas no NOS, just plain old kick ass! keep it real bro, you content is just off the charts! why you haven't blown up yet is a complete and utter mystery to me. personally, i consider you among the likes of Rossman, ipad rehab and the likes, with the exception of the frequency ofcourse but still cutting edge repair/consumer advice! much love bro!!!
I for one like the more in depth video. On to the rest of the video. As far as amp reviews, I hold yours at #1. You tell me EXACTLY what I need to know. And thought who don't know a whole lot about car audio will still understand what your message is. Very well done Sam. Very well done
Awesome video 🤙🏼. I frequently send people to look up your vids for specific, Misconceptions floating around. But on behalf of all nerds I love the long form review videos you do. But I get why they are hard for most to digest.
Very informative and thorough explanation of the Taramps amplifier lineup. It's great to see back posting videos on TH-cam, it seemed that you took a break for some time.
The info in this video is priceless. Thank you for explaining these 2 Amps. It saves someone like me tons of money and heartache. I am going to get that smart 5k with a dsp and a bass knob. Bravo Barevids
I have the smart 5bass and after a few weeks with it, i can honestly say it definitely puts out About double what my trinity tas8000.1 8k that was in there previously put out. Absolutely way more power available on bursts & seems to sound just more solid & harder hitting for over 100 bucks less than the trinity. Considered the smart 8 but couldn't really fit it & looking back, the smart 5 amps are actually way closer to doing what most 10k's would do
The only reason I purchased the bass version is because I'm wired to .5 ohms, and so far the amp sounds great! No clipping and the bass sounds smooth and the lower bass sounds incredible! I have 4 12's 1200watts rms each, and with an rca bass knob( too bad taramps didn't provide a bass knob) I can adjust the level to my speakers ability and not overpower them. Btw awesome informative video. You are the best on TH-cam.
You rock love all this info. Im at 3k smart going to the smart 5 wasnt sure if i wanted the bass or standard. Thank you for the comparison and the awsome video
@@DirtySouthFlorida3 one more question. Have you ever had a crescendo amp? I was looking at their skyway 3k. I've just heard they do rated power at 13.4 volts. I have 120 amp alternator, one d3400 AGM and an ioxis super capacitor. So whatever amp I get I need to make sure I have the electrical for it. Thanks for your advice
On a side note, a true mono input should have both Left and Right channels mixed. If using one or the other independently and there is a Bass effect on one of either channels that is not being used, it won’t be heard because that particular left or right plug is not connected. For best musical reproduction, it’s best to have both channels connected to experience all the sound the music is offering.
loved the video. like a the nerdy technical info to help me learn amps better. i will sit there on rewind until i understand what your saying. really liked the powerurs video, would have bought that amp if i didnt purchase a different one at the wrong time. more videos explaining amps. your my favorite youtuber for this.
Thanks for this. At first when I heard of Taramps, they really weren’t that good. Always seen mosfet failure, but it was mostly user error. I’ve never used one personally, but as I see more about the circuit, I’m starting to like them. Plus, they hooked up our online trainer.
@barevids what is the rail limit ? Like how much output voltage would it take to reach the limits and the amp quiets the sound? Does it matter what ohm your at and what voltage you charge at ? I’m referring the bass version
Been on my smart3 everyday jammin loud,26 months straight,never skipped a beat,other than the janky smartfans,its a good amp Gonna need another soon,but might go smart5
Id like to hear your thoughts on the new Taramps smart boss 3k. I bought one and its my new favorite amp i ever ran. Im 43 and remember when 1000 watts cost $1000 if you could find one. These small powerhouse amps like the smart boss 3k just blow my mind. I have it pushing a Resilient Sounds Onyx 12" i reconed. What a combination! I recently subscribed, i like your channel alot, especially the blind amp test with jbl and taramps, taramps should have cut you a check for that one, 😆 im sure it changed alot of peoples opinion of taramps in a good way, it did for me. Thanks for the videos.
This video was very helpful it explained to me on what's amp I wanted to buy this guy broke it down and very easy for me to understand so I'm going with the 5000 Watt bass amp thank you very much bro
I have been seriously thinking of buying the smart 5k because of the price point on it. I had a taramps HD 10k for a little while and I didn't have any trouble out of it but just didn't like the full bridge design. I am thinking of buying another taramps product though once this came out. I may end up pulling trigger soon.
Just started investigating Brazilian amps, and there are a number of brands that are Brazilian manufacturers (Peavey for instance) that I did not know until recently. If the amplifier is actually "made" in Brazil (Taramps is) and not just designed there, that is already a plus in my book over Chinese offerings. Also Taramps seem to employ, smartly I think, fans in most of their amplifiers (every amplifier should have a fan I think). However, the fans are not of the same grade of fans like in a computer which run basically silent. And seem to run a bit loud, but I imagine the music will drown out any possible fan noise. But computer quality fans are also known for their longevity of operation, not just how quiet they run. On this end, I cannot say if the fans Taramps use make the grade or not. But, at least they are trying to provide better heat dissipation than their competitors, and "heat" is the biggest problem for any amplifier regarding operation, and challenging its durability and longevity of operation. If you happen to have a cheaper, less efficient Chinese amp, that in the beginning works well, but quits operating in a year or just starts not sounding good (distortion) it is due to heat, and the amps heat sink. That is generally the difference between your "budget" amps and higher quality amps like Rockford Fosgate (proven through time), and who knows maybe Taramps. They seem to be improving their designs and components while keeping their pricing below the competition, and doing a good job keeping them cool. Which should mean good long term performance. It just seems Taramps are more about SPL than sound quality. I could be wrong. (Examples: Rockford Fosgate is known for having some of the lowest distortion - less than 1/10 of a percent distortion, and longest lasting car amplifiers on the market. Rockford is known to Focus specifically on sound quality, not power. Kenwood falls into that category as well. Just fyi.)
Because they are brushless rc radio controlled high rpm fans designed to cool high amp output electronics.. im familiar with these type fans since I’ve been using similar like kinds in my remote control hobby purposes. I think it’s great if you can hear that sucker then you mean it’s moving a ton of air unlike your quiet pc fan, that would offer little help in cooling these amplifiers
Its true, you get what you pay for! But simply full bridge is the best, even if its cheap its still going to great power. My Smart 3 gets pretty hot just at idle with no output, about 50 degrees C on the case, the fans then turn on but never turn back off because it constantly gain heat. But ive had it on for long drives at low volume and never had problems. The Smart 3 gave me a huge power boost without me having to upgrade my electrical, I can hold a little over 1000 watts RMS while holding 14.5V with just a worn old lead acid battery and stock 70amp alt that probably only does 30amp. My previous amp Pioneer GM-D8701 I was having huge voltage drop and could barely hold 600watts and I actually paid more for it!
Thank you so much for this video! You made my mind up for me. I now own a smart 5. Would have just bought the bass version, you know because basshead…….lol
Super Sam to the rescue.. I lost my faith in taramps, I use to have the 3k bass and a lot of bass notes were missing and not quite there. But bigger amp big subs more current etc etc. Never ends
You'll have had the filters set wrong. All the knobs need to be at zero other than the gain. If you are missing higher bass kicks then turn lpf up a touch. Hpf or subsonic should never be touched.
Hey do u know where I can replacement mofsets for the smart 5k the numbersi took off the part I'm having a hard time finding the right part number any help would be appreciated
how to stop the throttleing on the smart 5/8... like what input votage, charging voltage, ac voltage, amp draw should you see to prevent it from the throttle
@@barevids so could you disconnect subs, play 40hz tone, and turn gain up to max volume clean and after a moment should start to see the ac voltage go down due to the throttle affect? So basically I’d have to turn the ac voltage down until it stays level , or will this not work if the amp doesn’t see a load from the subs?
@@Basshertz94 as I said, it depends on the rise, so you need to have subs connected. Use the clip light on the amp. It's accurate. If it comes on you're at the limits of the amp.
Wow! Hey amigo I'm speechless so much information, very impressive 👏 😀 thank you! now I know which amp to get...ooh and you got yourself a new subscriber 🙂🙂take care bud..
Since the crossovers limit the output drastically unless wide open. Let's say I set the crossover FIRST then set the gain which would then overcome the wonky crossovers & not use the ones on the deck? Currently I am using the deck as you suggested but I hate when I need to pull the battery for one thing or another & my HU resets itself thus loosing the crossover settings.
I'm curious how these compare to Sundown sia. From what I've read the sia is less finicky with input voltage and I like that it has a bass knob, but there aren't many reviews on them.
Hey Sam I just did a dyno and inspection on this same model on my channel, and noticed the transformer windings are definitely epoxied on mine and are solid in place. Mine should have been first production, as I imagine yours was, so maybe yours just slipped through. Just thought I'd mention it.
Hi Sam, awesome technical breakdown as usual. Funny coincidence as I was eyeing the Smart 5K Bass but ended up buying twin Smart 3 Basses as it was a steal of a deal on Amazon ($300CAD each) and plan to wire each @ 0.7ohm for each 12" DC XL (dual 1.4ohm coils). I was wondering if you can you comment on how the Smart 3K Bass compares to the 5K Bass in regards to any intricacies or is it just a simple upscaling we see here with the Smart 5K bass? Alternatively at the time, I was looking at pair of regular Smart 3s due to the 12.6V rating vs 14.4V but ended up going with the Basses for the 0.5ohm stability for additional safety margin, even though I doubt I would even seeing 0.7 nominal often. Ultimately I plan to run these set to around 1.5-2Kw a piece to allow extra headroom. I'm second-guessing myself a little bit but at the price point I feel like I got a great deal.
Can anyone Please answer my Question if you have the time. Q: Do you have to upgrade your cars power supply if i use this amp meaning do you have get bigger battery bigger alternator.etc..
I also just took notice to the dual power inputs. I have single 0 AWG power and ground so I'm wondering if its OK to just split that or do I need to go back and actually run 4 separate wires? 🤔
Any update as to the reliability of the bass version? Did they make revisions like on the mosfets that you mentioned? I need a new amp, and my coils are d1.4, so .7 or 2.8 are my options, the way I see it the bass version is my only choice here but the subs a team sundown so it will take just about all the power I can throw at it
@@khmerboxer214 just about twice as loud and pure I guess. Been working great! Power hungry tho. Got a 320a alt coming. The 180 I got just isn't doing it.
@Cali 82! the original has capable of more power technically. I personally was using the factory head unit so I wanted the bass crossover. Which I got a dap and changed the radio out anyways. The bass version still does rated power tho. And it's. 5 ohm stable! But I've love it and never once has a issue w it. Digs into them low lows real nice!
@Scott Wright🔊 so you're saying go with the regular 5 smart 5k not 5k bass??cuz im not running.5 jus at 1ohm..i thought the 5kbass was better and put out more power..the video i watched it put out way more then 5k so i was confused
Would it be possible to coat the loose windings on the power supply transformers with hot glue or something to keep them from scraping each other or would that cause a problem?
Believe you can double the 150vmax mosfets in parallel to split the load across them to lower working temperatures & load. They'd have to experiment & see how it effects the circuit if they can't find higher rated mosfets. Shouldn't be different or much board redesign to add in.
These do seem to be getting better in reliability and wattage! Got me curious and I swore I would never run one but that was back when people was abusing them and blowing them out left and right! They now seem like a decent amp for an experienced user who will buy a bigger amp then they even need and run it easier!
How can I slow down the turn on of the protection relay on my mojo2500.1 ,sometimes I get a turn on noise after the relay has already made. Maybe an input op amp or something possibly.
Anyone know if you should adjust gains with subwoofer hooked up with these smart amps 5k and 5k bass? Wasn't sure if the smart side of it controls how much it puts out with sub connected vs not with tuning
Hey I have a skar sk3500 with the same idle noise you had in this video and its distorted through the whole gain is this a problem with the amps ground thanks
It's normal due to the single positive rail voltage used. The sine wave needs to be able to swing up to rail, and down to ground, so it needs to settle somewhere in the middle which is what the DC is 😁
What about comparing the smart 3/5k and smart bass 3/5k. I want to try one of these amps but don't know which one to go for as their so similar apart from the 0.5ohm on the smart bass 3/5k
I talk about this exact comparison in this video dude. The regular smart will usually be louder overall. The Bass model will sound nicer out of the box without other active lpf and filters and may actually be louder at 0.5 if you don't have a lot of impedance rise.
Just received a Smart 3 bass. Now this amps accept from 0,2 to 4V rca input. I will burn the amp if my head unit put out higher voltage?Like 5V or even 8V?
Thanks for really fast answer.I have an old Eclipse cda with 8V rca output that why i asked. I watch a video you made some years ago when you repair a DD M4 and i have one with some issues.It only start if i set gain high or some times i need to up volume to max for it to start.Any ideea what could be?
Thanks, i will look it to that. I just tested the Smart 3 bass today.So impressive for the size.If will last a year maybe i will upgrade to 5.You really gain a lot of space. I will repair my M4 so i can go back to use it in case i will not like Taramps sound or if blows.
Hey man did I mis the amp mod vid you were doing last I knew you were waiting on some wire. I am subed but haven't heard anything. Love the content. Thank you
@barevids if you had the amplifier gain set to 3000w at 1ohm when the sub is playing and rises to 4ohm would it be a 2900w output or would it be 2000w because the gain is lower
Hi Sam. I went ahead and bought the smart 5k. I am very happy with it m and thank u for this video. U helped out alot. I have a question. I'm seeing a lot of comments about people saying that these amps like or set it to 1.8 to 2.0 ac volts rca inputs.. WHY? What happens if I go with 4 or 5 volts ac? What advantages do I get by setting it at those lower voltages? I haven't seen any proof of this or an explanation as to why taramps perform better at 1.8 to 2.0 ac volts of rca input? I hope u see this and have time to explain this .. thank u . U are a badass at what u do and I appreciate the videos.
@@barevids I ran 1/0 OFC from front of the car to trunk and installed a 350 amp fuse just off battery in the front, this goes to a 2nd battery in trunk and off that I installed a distribution block so I figured I would be better to install a smaller fuse there since that is only a short run 18" of 1/0 to the Smart 3. So I should still use another 350 amp fuse in that part of the distribution block? I hope this makes more sense I should have explained better the first time.
Hay bro I has a question. I have the 2000x4 the 2 ohms model an I have 2 DS18 8s 8 ohms an 2 DS18 10s 8 ohms as well mid-range..I want to bridge them what is the final impedance output all speaker wired separately from the box going to the amplifier. Can get some advice on that please and thank you
Having been inside these Smart amps can you tell if the RCA inputs are connected internally? I've heard it said that they are combined inside therefore using both as inputs won't affect anything.
I would love for you do a video on voice coils in parallel vs series cause to me when multiple woofer is series parallel they just not as loud seems as if the voltage is splitting up too much
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Literally the most intelligent guy in car audio....hats off to you Sir!
Holy shit! Every amp review should be like this! Insanely detailed. Wow!
i am impressed Taramps is increasing their quality... Very happy to see the improvements
I bought the 5K SMART because of this Video and I LOVE IT. Thanks BRO
This channel needs way more subs. Way more likes. Way more shares. Way more thumbs up. That is some very deep technical details. Most amps look pretty on the outside, the insides are what matter.
0:23 as a guy with 3 dead smart 5s in my possession, I'm very eager to see what I can learn from these videos. I watched your full guide video you did with the SFB sundown and learned a lot! I'm learning a lot from all of your videos and super grateful to have found this one. I'm looking to become the St. Louis MO amp repair guy here in the states and your videos are next to golds worth for me. Thanks so much
Free PIC and Mosfets??? ok Taramps has just risen to my ultimate goto amp!!
As for you SAM, no gas no NOS, just plain old kick ass! keep it real bro, you content is just off the charts! why you haven't blown up yet is a complete and utter mystery to me.
personally, i consider you among the likes of Rossman, ipad rehab and the likes, with the exception of the frequency ofcourse but still cutting edge repair/consumer advice!
much love bro!!!
I bought two smart 5k's so im glad to see good info about them.
I for one like the more in depth video. On to the rest of the video.
As far as amp reviews, I hold yours at #1. You tell me EXACTLY what I need to know. And thought who don't know a whole lot about car audio will still understand what your message is. Very well done Sam. Very well done
Wow! this man knows what he's talking about!
My respect!!!
Awesome video 🤙🏼. I frequently send people to look up your vids for specific, Misconceptions floating around. But on behalf of all nerds I love the long form review videos you do. But I get why they are hard for most to digest.
Very informative and thorough explanation of the Taramps amplifier lineup. It's great to see back posting videos on TH-cam, it seemed that you took a break for some time.
The info in this video is priceless. Thank you for explaining these 2 Amps. It saves someone like me tons of money and heartache. I am going to get that smart 5k with a dsp and a bass knob. Bravo Barevids
Your talk about subs excursion limit and comparison of your 10k vs the smart 5k really helped me understand
Great info! All your videos are awesome Sam. Happy Taramps is listening to recommended improvements.
As always thank you for your time and knowledge. I hope they come out with a 10 or 12k soon
Thanks I needed this now ik for sure I'm getting the smart 5k
I have the smart 5bass and after a few weeks with it, i can honestly say it definitely puts out About double what my trinity tas8000.1 8k that was in there previously put out. Absolutely way more power available on bursts & seems to sound just more solid & harder hitting for over 100 bucks less than the trinity. Considered the smart 8 but couldn't really fit it & looking back, the smart 5 amps are actually way closer to doing what most 10k's would do
The only reason I purchased the bass version is because I'm wired to .5 ohms, and so far the amp sounds great! No clipping and the bass sounds smooth and the lower bass sounds incredible! I have 4 12's 1200watts rms each, and with an rca bass knob( too bad taramps didn't provide a bass knob) I can adjust the level to my speakers ability and not overpower them. Btw awesome informative video. You are the best on TH-cam.
One of the only channels i watch the entire video.
You rock love all this info. Im at 3k smart going to the smart 5 wasnt sure if i wanted the bass or standard. Thank you for the comparison and the awsome video
Get the smart bass i owned them all and it sounds way better and its more powerfull
@@DirtySouthFlorida3 I was debating getting a smart bass 3k or smart 3k. So definitely get the bass version? I'm going to put it on two Sundown 12s
@@850CANE the SMART BASS VERSION its worth it bigtime ive had them all and alotta reasons why... Theres bass theres smart and there's smartbass
@@DirtySouthFlorida3 one more question. Have you ever had a crescendo amp? I was looking at their skyway 3k. I've just heard they do rated power at 13.4 volts. I have 120 amp alternator, one d3400 AGM and an ioxis super capacitor. So whatever amp I get I need to make sure I have the electrical for it. Thanks for your advice
@@850CANE yea there good but more expensive up to you. Seen a symphony amo catch on fire tho at .5ohm
Excellent video as always! I learn something every time I watch one of your videos.
Wow! I really like this amp!
Wow this guys knows his stuff!!
On a side note, a true mono input should have both Left and Right channels mixed. If using one or the other independently and there is a Bass effect on one of either channels that is not being used, it won’t be heard because that particular left or right plug is not connected. For best musical reproduction, it’s best to have both channels connected to experience all the sound the music is offering.
Head units mix down the subwoofer output to mono. Try it!
@@barevids
Yea that’s a better option when the head unit has sub output.
@@barevids if you want high output alternator buy J's alternator or iraggi alternator
@@cherryloujames8195 my iraggi 320 is beasst
what happens if someone were to use a rca Y cable??
loved the video. like a the nerdy technical info to help me learn amps better. i will sit there on rewind until i understand what your saying. really liked the powerurs video, would have bought that amp if i didnt purchase a different one at the wrong time. more videos explaining amps. your my favorite youtuber for this.
Thank you !!!! I know which one I will buy now (smart 5k Regular)
So excited Sam, thank you for new video 👍🎉
Thanks for this. At first when I heard of Taramps, they really weren’t that good. Always seen mosfet failure, but it was mostly user error. I’ve never used one personally, but as I see more about the circuit, I’m starting to like them. Plus, they hooked up our online trainer.
I ran an hd 10k and i loved it, ran it for a year before selling it to my buddy.
Thanks for the update. Didn't even know there was a 5k coming out. That's the one I really want. Thanks ✌️
@barevids what is the rail limit ? Like how much output voltage would it take to reach the limits and the amp quiets the sound? Does it matter what ohm your at and what voltage you charge at ? I’m referring the bass version
Been on my smart3 everyday jammin loud,26 months straight,never skipped a beat,other than the janky smartfans,its a good amp
Gonna need another soon,but might go smart5
I have a 3k md on a zxv 15 and it BANGS!
Id like to hear your thoughts on the new Taramps smart boss 3k. I bought one and its my new favorite amp i ever ran. Im 43 and remember when 1000 watts cost $1000 if you could find one. These small powerhouse amps like the smart boss 3k just blow my mind. I have it pushing a Resilient Sounds Onyx 12" i reconed. What a combination! I recently subscribed, i like your channel alot, especially the blind amp test with jbl and taramps, taramps should have cut you a check for that one, 😆 im sure it changed alot of peoples opinion of taramps in a good way, it did for me. Thanks for the videos.
This video was very helpful it explained to me on what's amp I wanted to buy this guy broke it down and very easy for me to understand so I'm going with the 5000 Watt bass amp thank you very much bro
Cant wait to get my normal smaRT 5 LOVE MY SMART 3 ITS GOING TO MOVE TO MY MIDS AND HIGHS
The Smart 5k does well on bass but really well on mids too.
I have been seriously thinking of buying the smart 5k because of the price point on it. I had a taramps HD 10k for a little while and I didn't have any trouble out of it but just didn't like the full bridge design. I am thinking of buying another taramps product though once this came out. I may end up pulling trigger soon.
It makes sense that both the
input/output rca terminals are just connected electrically. Basically daisy chained. Internal y-splitter. Basically..
Just started investigating Brazilian amps, and there are a number of brands that are Brazilian manufacturers (Peavey for instance) that I did not know until recently. If the amplifier is actually "made" in Brazil (Taramps is) and not just designed there, that is already a plus in my book over Chinese offerings. Also Taramps seem to employ, smartly I think, fans in most of their amplifiers (every amplifier should have a fan I think). However, the fans are not of the same grade of fans like in a computer which run basically silent. And seem to run a bit loud, but I imagine the music will drown out any possible fan noise. But computer quality fans are also known for their longevity of operation, not just how quiet they run. On this end, I cannot say if the fans Taramps use make the grade or not. But, at least they are trying to provide better heat dissipation than their competitors, and "heat" is the biggest problem for any amplifier regarding operation, and challenging its durability and longevity of operation. If you happen to have a cheaper, less efficient Chinese amp, that in the beginning works well, but quits operating in a year or just starts not sounding good (distortion) it is due to heat, and the amps heat sink. That is generally the difference between your "budget" amps and higher quality amps like Rockford Fosgate (proven through time), and who knows maybe Taramps. They seem to be improving their designs and components while keeping their pricing below the competition, and doing a good job keeping them cool. Which should mean good long term performance. It just seems Taramps are more about SPL than sound quality. I could be wrong. (Examples: Rockford Fosgate is known for having some of the lowest distortion - less than 1/10 of a percent distortion, and longest lasting car amplifiers on the market. Rockford is known to Focus specifically on sound quality, not power. Kenwood falls into that category as well. Just fyi.)
Because they are brushless rc radio controlled high rpm fans designed to cool high amp output electronics.. im familiar with these type fans since I’ve been using similar like kinds in my remote control hobby purposes. I think it’s great if you can hear that sucker then you mean it’s moving a ton of air unlike your quiet pc fan, that would offer little help in cooling these amplifiers
Thank you again Sam for another great video nuff respect keep up the good work 🇯🇲 🇺🇸 👍 🙏
Great presentation 👍 can you make a video with the stetsom amps.
Running two smart 3 on one B2 XM 18" D1 - i am very pleased with the Performance...
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Great video dude. Very good info!
Its true, you get what you pay for! But simply full bridge is the best, even if its cheap its still going to great power. My Smart 3 gets pretty hot just at idle with no output, about 50 degrees C on the case, the fans then turn on but never turn back off because it constantly gain heat. But ive had it on for long drives at low volume and never had problems.
The Smart 3 gave me a huge power boost without me having to upgrade my electrical, I can hold a little over 1000 watts RMS while holding 14.5V with just a worn old lead acid battery and stock 70amp alt that probably only does 30amp. My previous amp Pioneer GM-D8701 I was having huge voltage drop and could barely hold 600watts and I actually paid more for it!
Thank you so much for this video! You made my mind up for me. I now own a smart 5. Would have just bought the bass version, you know because basshead…….lol
Thank you for the content big man 😀
Is there a way to protect the loose transformer coils?
BRO I love your videos thanks for all the info!
The rca l and r are parallel. Manual states dual rca input/ output. Just a built in splitter
Can u use both rca's????? As inputs?
Super Sam to the rescue.. I lost my faith in taramps, I use to have the 3k bass and a lot of bass notes were missing and not quite there. But bigger amp big subs more current etc etc. Never ends
You'll have had the filters set wrong. All the knobs need to be at zero other than the gain. If you are missing higher bass kicks then turn lpf up a touch. Hpf or subsonic should never be touched.
i have a rockford T2500.1BDCP and i can say the constant power REALLY changes how the subs behave
THD!
T2500 GOT 2 GOLDEN BOWLING BALLS
Hey do u know where I can replacement mofsets for the smart 5k the numbersi took off the part I'm having a hard time finding the right part number any help would be appreciated
@@adamagedone4u irfb4127
I take it that the irfb is the other part number that works? And can u recommend who I can get it from
Soooo.. wonder if they made any changes? Is the regular 5k better than the bass now 2 years later?
how to stop the throttleing on the smart 5/8... like what input votage, charging voltage, ac voltage, amp draw should you see to prevent it from the throttle
It changes depending on what you're rising to at each frequency.
@@barevids so nothing to do to stop it ?
If it's throttling you're at the limits of the amp clamping 8k and you need a bigger one.
@@barevids so could you disconnect subs, play 40hz tone, and turn gain up to max volume clean and after a moment should start to see the ac voltage go down due to the throttle affect? So basically I’d have to turn the ac voltage down until it stays level , or will this not work if the amp doesn’t see a load from the subs?
@@Basshertz94 as I said, it depends on the rise, so you need to have subs connected. Use the clip light on the amp. It's accurate. If it comes on you're at the limits of the amp.
Wow! Hey amigo I'm speechless so much information, very impressive 👏 😀 thank you! now I know which amp to get...ooh and you got yourself a new subscriber 🙂🙂take care bud..
So which is better the smart 5k or the smart 5kbass???
Very good video! 👍🏾 thanks!
Since the crossovers limit the output drastically unless wide open. Let's say I set the crossover FIRST then set the gain which would then overcome the wonky crossovers & not use the ones on the deck? Currently I am using the deck as you suggested but I hate when I need to pull the battery for one thing or another & my HU resets itself thus loosing the crossover settings.
I'm curious how these compare to Sundown sia. From what I've read the sia is less finicky with input voltage and I like that it has a bass knob, but there aren't many reviews on them.
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Hey Sam
I just did a dyno and inspection on this same model on my channel, and noticed the transformer windings are definitely epoxied on mine and are solid in place.
Mine should have been first production, as I imagine yours was, so maybe yours just slipped through.
Just thought I'd mention it.
Interesting, good to know!
Hey facekicker . Hello fellow Utahn😂
Missed ya bro. But here you are gracing us with another dope video🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Hi Sam, awesome technical breakdown as usual. Funny coincidence as I was eyeing the Smart 5K Bass but ended up buying twin Smart 3 Basses as it was a steal of a deal on Amazon ($300CAD each) and plan to wire each @ 0.7ohm for each 12" DC XL (dual 1.4ohm coils). I was wondering if you can you comment on how the Smart 3K Bass compares to the 5K Bass in regards to any intricacies or is it just a simple upscaling we see here with the Smart 5K bass? Alternatively at the time, I was looking at pair of regular Smart 3s due to the 12.6V rating vs 14.4V but ended up going with the Basses for the 0.5ohm stability for additional safety margin, even though I doubt I would even seeing 0.7 nominal often. Ultimately I plan to run these set to around 1.5-2Kw a piece to allow extra headroom. I'm second-guessing myself a little bit but at the price point I feel like I got a great deal.
Can anyone Please answer my Question if you have the time. Q: Do you have to upgrade your cars power supply if i use this amp meaning do you have get bigger battery bigger alternator.etc..
I will but u could use two good batteries Northstar r xs power and 5000f super caps. With a stock alt.
@@tonylanclos3756 Thanks.
You absolutely do, big battery bank and and higher output alt is always a good idea
I also just took notice to the dual power inputs. I have single 0 AWG power and ground so I'm wondering if its OK to just split that or do I need to go back and actually run 4 separate wires? 🤔
Any update as to the reliability of the bass version? Did they make revisions like on the mosfets that you mentioned? I need a new amp, and my coils are d1.4, so .7 or 2.8 are my options, the way I see it the bass version is my only choice here but the subs a team sundown so it will take just about all the power I can throw at it
Been using mine over a year now pretty maxed out🤷♂️
I just got my smart 5 bass version yesterday in the mail. I had the original smart 3 up until I bought this. So I'm hoping it'll sound good and pure.
How does it sound compared to smart 3?
@@khmerboxer214 just about twice as loud and pure I guess. Been working great! Power hungry tho. Got a 320a alt coming. The 180 I got just isn't doing it.
@Scott Wright🔊 I've been trying to see who got the smart 5k bass..I cnt decide on which one..do u think the 5bass is better??or what's the difference
@Cali 82! the original has capable of more power technically. I personally was using the factory head unit so I wanted the bass crossover. Which I got a dap and changed the radio out anyways. The bass version still does rated power tho. And it's. 5 ohm stable! But I've love it and never once has a issue w it. Digs into them low lows real nice!
@Scott Wright🔊 so you're saying go with the regular 5 smart 5k not 5k bass??cuz im not running.5 jus at 1ohm..i thought the 5kbass was better and put out more power..the video i watched it put out way more then 5k so i was confused
I'm at an oddball 2.7 mono. Which would be better for me??
Would it be possible to coat the loose windings on the power supply transformers with hot glue or something to keep them from scraping each other or would that cause a problem?
How much difference between smart 5k and smart 5k bass? I’m about to order one or the other, can’t decide I got 2x 15s.
@@colemclane650 I would most definitely go with the Smart 5 if i were u. just listen to what hes saying. Peace and bass!
@@Hertzsogood219 I ordered smart 5k got it fir $450 from res sounds !! What a steal !! Should be wired in next weekend let’s goooooo
@@colemclane650 how’s it been working for you?
@@gagedoble2843 works great loads of power, would recommend 140-200ah agm and alternator for full potential for sustained play
Believe you can double the 150vmax mosfets in parallel to split the load across them to lower working temperatures & load. They'd have to experiment & see how it effects the circuit if they can't find higher rated mosfets. Shouldn't be different or much board redesign to add in.
These do seem to be getting better in reliability and wattage! Got me curious and I swore I would never run one but that was back when people was abusing them and blowing them out left and right! They now seem like a decent amp for an experienced user who will buy a bigger amp then they even need and run it easier!
Awesome thorough vid 👏
How can I slow down the turn on of the protection relay on my mojo2500.1 ,sometimes I get a turn on noise after the relay has already made. Maybe an input op amp or something possibly.
Excellent video man
I got 2 hawk 1244 and everyone is telling me to run a smart 5k bass but I’ve also heard to run the 3k so now I’m stuck
@@tevincurry1397 well run the 5 if you can afford it
Anyone know if you should adjust gains with subwoofer hooked up with these smart amps 5k and 5k bass? Wasn't sure if the smart side of it controls how much it puts out with sub connected vs not with tuning
Yep just go by the clip light no tools required
Hola amigo saludos desde Mexico.. Crees que le afecte trabajar a 0.8 ohms al smart 5 regular
Hey I have a skar sk3500 with the same idle noise you had in this video and its distorted through the whole gain is this a problem with the amps ground thanks
So DC at the speaker outputs are normal for these amps? I've noticed DC voltage on my md5000 that I'm repairing, I thought that it was an issue!
It's normal due to the single positive rail voltage used. The sine wave needs to be able to swing up to rail, and down to ground, so it needs to settle somewhere in the middle which is what the DC is 😁
I need help with my amp! It’s sending feedback when hooked up 🙄
Great detailed video. Thanks
What about comparing the smart 3/5k and smart bass 3/5k. I want to try one of these amps but don't know which one to go for as their so similar apart from the 0.5ohm on the smart bass 3/5k
I talk about this exact comparison in this video dude. The regular smart will usually be louder overall. The Bass model will sound nicer out of the box without other active lpf and filters and may actually be louder at 0.5 if you don't have a lot of impedance rise.
@barevids my bad. I thought you were comparing the smart 5k to the regular Bass 5k and not smart bass 5k.
Which one is better wired to 1.33 smart 8 or smart bass 8 or big boss bass 8
@@jeromerobinson641 smart 8
Just received a Smart 3 bass.
Now this amps accept from 0,2 to 4V rca input.
I will burn the amp if my head unit put out higher voltage?Like 5V or even 8V?
You wont burn but you will clip the pre-amp section. Just run the Head Unit at a lower volume. Anything above 4v rca is ridiculous.
Thanks for really fast answer.I have an old Eclipse cda with 8V rca output that why i asked.
I watch a video you made some years ago when you repair a DD M4 and i have one with some issues.It only start if i set gain high or some times i need to up volume to max for it to start.Any ideea what could be?
@@doar_realist probably the relay contacts have gone bad over time. You could replace the relays or bypass them entirely.
Thanks, i will look it to that.
I just tested the Smart 3 bass today.So impressive for the size.If will last a year maybe i will upgrade to 5.You really gain a lot of space.
I will repair my M4 so i can go back to use it in case i will not like Taramps sound or if blows.
Hey man did I mis the amp mod vid you were doing last I knew you were waiting on some wire. I am subed but haven't heard anything. Love the content. Thank you
The power supply fets do you think it is safe by them heating up ? I dont want to burn my car up
Can the Smart 5k be ran fine at .7? Wanting to get more power on the 12v end compared to the 5k bass.
can you run a regular smart 5k at .5???
@barevids if you had the amplifier gain set to 3000w at 1ohm when the sub is playing and rises to 4ohm would it be a 2900w output or would it be 2000w because the gain is lower
Great info! Thank you!!
enjoy geeking out amp stuff, thanks 4 u and big d wiz videos
I just got a Smart Bass 8k…they good?
I made a video on that one too
Is the LPF the same as HD line ?
Hi Sam. I went ahead and bought the smart 5k. I am very happy with it m and thank u for this video. U helped out alot. I have a question. I'm seeing a lot of comments about people saying that these amps like or set it to 1.8 to 2.0 ac volts rca inputs.. WHY? What happens if I go with 4 or 5 volts ac? What advantages do I get by setting it at those lower voltages? I haven't seen any proof of this or an explanation as to why taramps perform better at 1.8 to 2.0 ac volts of rca input? I hope u see this and have time to explain this .. thank u . U are a badass at what u do and I appreciate the videos.
Hi can you tell me if i should set the HPF, LPF AND Gain ON THE 3k BASS AMP like you suggest for the 5K Bass amp ?
What size fuse for the Smart 3? I can't find a spec anywhere.
Fuse for the wire you use! Nothing to do with the amp! 😊
@@barevids I ran 1/0 OFC from front of the car to trunk and installed a 350 amp fuse just off battery in the front, this goes to a 2nd battery in trunk and off that I installed a distribution block so I figured I would be better to install a smaller fuse there since that is only a short run 18" of 1/0 to the Smart 3. So I should still use another 350 amp fuse in that part of the distribution block? I hope this makes more sense I should have explained better the first time.
@@timwheeler1503 yeah a 350 would be fine ☺
Hay bro I has a question. I have the 2000x4 the 2 ohms model an I have 2 DS18 8s 8 ohms an 2 DS18 10s 8 ohms as well mid-range..I want to bridge them what is the final impedance output all speaker wired separately from the box going to the amplifier. Can get some advice on that please and thank you
Look up speaker wiring calculator. You can input how many speakers you have and what resistance they are and it’ll tell you all the wiring options
Having been inside these Smart amps can you tell if the RCA inputs are connected internally? I've heard it said that they are combined inside therefore using both as inputs won't affect anything.
Same!!!! Can u use both rca's as inputs??
I would love for you do a video on voice coils in parallel vs series cause to me when multiple woofer is series parallel they just not as loud seems as if the voltage is splitting up too much
Any idea of the damping factor for the smart 5?
high but not as high as a class AB...it has massive power but shit weak bass below 35HZ!!
false information. @@lunam7249