Primal therapy theory said exactly this since the early seventies. Janov himself first mentioned reverberating circuits created by traumatic learning. Reliving the emotion in a safe and "loving " environments abolishes the symptoms frequently permanently This is old stuff but remains good better than any talk therapy
Mary Hunt, Bruce Ecker has already presented his therapy in 1993, and has carried out phenomenological research on its efficacy and predictability of the result of it in 1996 compared to the mainstream therapies of the time. Memory reconsolidation is NOT owned by any approach : it s just how the brain reorganizes its knowings naturally, there are many approaches that can use this native capacity.
As of Fe 2017 I have not been able to find any clinical studies proving efficacy of emotional juxtaposition. Yes, there are studies by Joseph LeDoux, KIndt, etc but Ecker is not referred in any.
Defining markers of lasting transformational change: 1, symptoms disappear- thoughts, emotions, behaviours and somatic events and without any further intervention remain absent. The key that unlocks the door to successful psychotherapy.
This is a great summary of what Harlem’s too in systematic desensitization a la Wolfe. It’s not possible to be anxious and relaxed at the same time. Juxtaposition. The remarks about wiring are lovely but has the rewiring been observed? If not, then this explanation is theoretical. But if it is generally accurate (or perfectly so) then it is lawful. I like the card bit a lot. Frankly, this case study also resembles cognitive behavioral therapy - the Version that does include behaviors and is not just cognitive. It’s good therapy but is not the only expectation for behavioral change.
Thank you for this video. I was very impressed by Dr Ecker's clear, precise, well-intoned lecture. I got a lot from it. Thank you for this informative, well-crafted talk.
Medical Hypnoanalysis has been using a systematic procedure to do exactly what is described in this video since the 1960's, sometimes referred to as the Bryant Method.
I am curious about the term "neural circuits." I have heard the phrase neurons that fire together wire together. It sounds cute, but what doesn't mean? It seems to indicate a physical connection between the neurons, and we know that nothing touches between the dendrites and axons. So, what is this neural circuit? New learning patterns do form if the learning is active. What holds the neural circuits in place when attention moves to more active areas in the brain and the neural circuits are inactive? And for how long are they held in place? Memories can be recalled after decades of inactivity in the brain, yet the memory presents itself to the mind when triggered. During those extended periods of inactivity, what holds the neural circuit or patterns in place? The brain also has a function of "pruning and trimming" inactive connections between dendrites and axons. How does the brain know which idle connections should remain and which inactive connections should be trimmed and pruned? We create thousands of neural circuits daily called memories. Learning is making memories. Where is the neural circuit or pattern when the memory is inactive? Can we find one neural circuit in the brain when the memory is inactive? Where is the memory stored when the memory is inactive? Another concern is how the neural circuit or pattern is triggered into activity. There seem to be a lot of assumptions made with the theory of memory consolidation around the role of the limbic system with the question, "Well, where else could that happen? So, let's develop a theory to make it happen there." When the neural circuit is active, we see it running down the neural pathway. When it is inactive, where is it? Where are the wired-together neural circuits or patterns? The Memory Consolidation theory makes assumptions that will not pass Occam's razor. Mike
I find it similar to psychoanalys when it addressed ego fragmentation, or going even further in early childhood others began identifying attachment and stages od development. There was always some understanding that a client would often be arrested at a particular stage of her development. Being validated in autonomy, value, or other was very commonly an issue.
I would argue that transformational change occurs when the neurophysiology is brought to a state of safety, and begins the process of returning to restoration, health, and growth.
Thank you very much for this video, this is exactly what I am looking for, at your recommendation I just purchased your book "Unlocking the Emotional Brain"
"To study the mind, infer the conditions necessary for experience." -- Kant the memory is magnetic -- and the all minds upon the earth are unified by the earth's magnetic field. Earth's magnetic field IS the subconscious mind. Still further, on the above point, it must be made clear that even matter itself is held together by magnetism. this is because magnetism and time are really the same thing. However (and this is the key) TIME is 3 dimensional. So are memory. They are hard to measure by your tools. The other 2 dimensions of time, nonetheless, exist in "an inner realm" which is known to the awareness. Recall the Medieval attempts at a scientific manner of measuring Intensive Magnitude. This is what you are doing. You yourself said "memory is implicit".. Kant, in the Transcendental Aesthetic, said that time is "inner sense". Memory. Magnetism. Time. All one thing. 3 dimensional. See *Dewey Larson's "Structure of the Physical Universe"* & his book "Beyond Space and Time". His students are carrying forth his work. The unified theory has arrived. You can throw away Relativity and Quantum Mechanics and String Theory. How simple truth really is. I believe a proper understanding of reality will have a formidable bearing on your specialized work in the area of memory. You should probably know what memory is to begin with, in other words, at its *scientific-heart absolutely*
Law of One & ACIM when you say magnetism and memories are same thing, and magnetic field is : subconscious mind. the time for example I had horrible abuses and now are horrible memories, are in my subconscious, and time, magnitisim, memory are same! all in subconscious, therefore, if I become conscious and be in state of awareness, then memory and the time associated with that memory no longer is in my conscious magnetic field? Did I understand it correctly? 🙏🙌🏻
Sorry this is not new In the sixties and early seventies this was fully known without the fancy words . Frank Lake ,Arthur Janov William swartley fritz perls and many others were already using the blueprint for transformation under different brand names .the steps to healing we're almost identical and the theories almost identical in concepts but with different terms used to describe identical phenomena and processes At that time, mainstream psychiatry tore these giants apart and tried to kill the trauma theorist and the amazing transformative practices .they almost succeeded were it not for the persistence of the patients and the actual cures and transformations. I love this work but please don't claim it's new.it isn't .many of the old books are still in print and available to prove that trauma theories and transformative therapies were not born yesterday. Give credit where it belongs!!
Bruce Ecker has added two new things to those methods: 1, his teams research to identify the characteristics of breakthrough therapy sessions that resulted in Coherence Therapy and 2. Research in neuropsychology that outlined specific conditions necessary to permanently unlearn emotional learning. He has identifies principles and found a matching set of principles from neuroscience.
wow - you wouldn't be selling something by any chance? He was quite clear in this being a 'meta level' model. And so, if it is the case that "many paths lead to Rome", and IFS in a good candidate re ticking all the boxes here (the 3 steps criteria), then 'hooray' for IFS and its more 'up to date, concrete, embodied, feelings friendly' way of doing memory reconsolidation!
I agree that IFS is a wonderful model with amazing results, however, I notice that the unburdening process is not well aligned with the research on memory reconsolidation as core beliefs are not identified and no attempt is made to directly counteract them. Just saying.
I also agree that IFS is amazing work and yields huge shift in felt sense of overwhelm but I often see the symptoms return over time, as the original emotional learning is not dealt with explicitly and replaced / juxtaposed. Still learning but appreciating the brains needs / along with emotional / somatic side.
The most important breakthrough I have ever seen in psychology.
In fact ... I see this work as bridging ontology and psychology in many ways.
Bravo!!!
A wonderful video for psychotherapists of all persuasions-Dr. Ecker has the key that unlocks the essence of successful psychotherapy.
Just brilliant!
Primal therapy theory said exactly this since the early seventies. Janov himself first mentioned reverberating circuits created by traumatic learning. Reliving the emotion in a safe and "loving " environments abolishes the symptoms frequently permanently
This is old stuff but remains good better than any talk therapy
Mary Hunt, Bruce Ecker has already presented his therapy in 1993, and has carried out phenomenological research on its efficacy and predictability of the result of it in 1996 compared to the mainstream therapies of the time.
Memory reconsolidation is NOT owned by any approach : it s just how the brain reorganizes its knowings naturally, there are many approaches that can use this native capacity.
+Andry RAKOTO I can't find research on efficacy. Is it published? If so, can you direct me to a reference? Thanks!
As of Fe 2017 I have not been able to find any clinical studies proving efficacy of emotional juxtaposition. Yes, there are studies by Joseph LeDoux, KIndt, etc but Ecker is not referred in any.
Defining markers of lasting transformational change: 1, symptoms disappear- thoughts, emotions, behaviours and somatic events and without any further intervention remain absent. The key that unlocks the door to successful psychotherapy.
thank you
This is a great summary of what Harlem’s too in systematic desensitization a la Wolfe. It’s not possible to be anxious and relaxed at the same time. Juxtaposition. The remarks about wiring are lovely but has the rewiring been observed? If not, then this explanation is theoretical. But if it is generally accurate (or perfectly so) then it is lawful. I like the card bit a lot. Frankly, this case study also resembles cognitive behavioral therapy - the Version that does include behaviors and is not just cognitive. It’s good therapy but is not the only expectation for behavioral change.
Thank you for this video. I was very impressed by Dr Ecker's clear, precise, well-intoned lecture. I got a lot from it. Thank you for this informative, well-crafted talk.
Medical Hypnoanalysis has been using a systematic procedure to do exactly what is described in this video since the 1960's, sometimes referred to as the Bryant Method.
I am curious about the term "neural circuits." I have heard the phrase neurons that fire together wire together. It sounds cute, but what doesn't mean? It seems to indicate a physical connection between the neurons, and we know that nothing touches between the dendrites and axons. So, what is this neural circuit?
New learning patterns do form if the learning is active. What holds the neural circuits in place when attention moves to more active areas in the brain and the neural circuits are inactive? And for how long are they held in place? Memories can be recalled after decades of inactivity in the brain, yet the memory presents itself to the mind when triggered. During those extended periods of inactivity, what holds the neural circuit or patterns in place?
The brain also has a function of "pruning and trimming" inactive connections between dendrites and axons. How does the brain know which idle connections should remain and which inactive connections should be trimmed and pruned?
We create thousands of neural circuits daily called memories. Learning is making memories. Where is the neural circuit or pattern when the memory is inactive? Can we find one neural circuit in the brain when the memory is inactive? Where is the memory stored when the memory is inactive?
Another concern is how the neural circuit or pattern is triggered into activity. There seem to be a lot of assumptions made with the theory of memory consolidation around the role of the limbic system with the question, "Well, where else could that happen? So, let's develop a theory to make it happen there."
When the neural circuit is active, we see it running down the neural pathway. When it is inactive, where is it? Where are the wired-together neural circuits or patterns?
The Memory Consolidation theory makes assumptions that will not pass Occam's razor.
Mike
Would have helped to see the Card used for step 3!
Brilliant! I would also add CRM, comprehensive resource model, as a mode of therapy using memory reconsolidation.
Bruce is describing a technique that Zivorad Slavinski created back in 2006/7 which he calls DP4.
Sleep guided meditation works too
I find it similar to psychoanalys when it addressed ego fragmentation, or going even further in early childhood others began identifying attachment and stages od development. There was always some understanding that a client would often be arrested at a particular stage of her development. Being validated in autonomy, value, or other was very commonly an issue.
Thanks so much for the video
I think I just ruined my own therapy by watching this video. I wish I had been warned.
How so? Just curious.
Don’t keep us hanging?
👀
Warning: the therapy you have invested in may not consistently bring about long-term results!
I would argue that transformational change occurs when the neurophysiology is brought to a state of safety, and begins the process of returning to restoration, health, and growth.
Thank you very much for this video, this is exactly what I am looking for, at your recommendation I just purchased your book "Unlocking the Emotional Brain"
Thank you!
The sample index card text is at 15:19. Does anyone want to guess how often the emotional response can be described in words?
What happens, if the 5 hours, when we could overwrithe the brain path is passing without overwriting? Is there a later chance?
reconsolidation window isn't a once in a life time experience; you can always open another one :)
"To study the mind, infer the conditions necessary for experience." -- Kant
the memory is magnetic -- and the all minds upon the earth are unified by the earth's magnetic field. Earth's magnetic field IS the subconscious mind. Still further, on the above point, it must be made clear that even matter itself is held together by magnetism. this is because magnetism and time are really the same thing. However (and this is the key) TIME is 3 dimensional. So are memory. They are hard to measure by your tools. The other 2 dimensions of time, nonetheless, exist in "an inner realm" which is known to the awareness. Recall the Medieval attempts at a scientific manner of measuring Intensive Magnitude. This is what you are doing. You yourself said "memory is implicit".. Kant, in the Transcendental Aesthetic, said that time is "inner sense".
Memory. Magnetism. Time. All one thing. 3 dimensional.
See *Dewey Larson's "Structure of the Physical Universe"* & his book "Beyond Space and Time". His students are carrying forth his work. The unified theory has arrived. You can throw away Relativity and Quantum Mechanics and String Theory. How simple truth really is. I believe a proper understanding of reality will have a formidable bearing on your specialized work in the area of memory. You should probably know what memory is to begin with, in other words, at its *scientific-heart absolutely*
Law of One & ACIM when you say magnetism and memories are same thing, and magnetic field is : subconscious mind. the time for example I had horrible abuses and now are horrible memories, are in my subconscious, and time, magnitisim, memory are same! all in subconscious, therefore, if I become conscious and be in state of awareness, then memory and the time associated with that memory no longer is in my conscious magnetic field?
Did I understand it correctly? 🙏🙌🏻
far out - I'm pretty darn sure you are using 'Kant's quote somewhat selectively here.
Sorry this is not new
In the sixties and early seventies this was fully known without the fancy words . Frank Lake ,Arthur Janov William swartley fritz perls and many others were already using the blueprint for transformation under different brand names .the steps to healing we're almost identical and the theories almost identical in concepts but with different terms used to describe identical phenomena and processes
At that time, mainstream psychiatry tore these giants apart and tried to kill the trauma theorist and the amazing transformative practices .they almost succeeded were it not for the persistence of the patients and the actual cures and transformations.
I love this work but please don't claim it's new.it isn't .many of the old books are still in print and available to prove that trauma theories and transformative therapies were not born yesterday. Give credit where it belongs!!
Bruce Ecker has added two new things to those methods: 1, his teams research to identify the characteristics of breakthrough therapy sessions that resulted in Coherence Therapy and 2. Research in neuropsychology that outlined specific conditions necessary to permanently unlearn emotional learning. He has identifies principles and found a matching set of principles from neuroscience.
He is listing plenty of modalities and says there are many more. I think the credit is given to multiple approaches.
In the light of Internal Family Systems, this talk seems very dated and wildly abstract and dissociated from body and feelings.
wow - you wouldn't be selling something by any chance? He was quite clear in this being a 'meta level' model. And so, if it is the case that "many paths lead to Rome", and IFS in a good candidate re ticking all the boxes here (the 3 steps criteria), then 'hooray' for IFS and its more 'up to date, concrete, embodied, feelings friendly' way of doing memory reconsolidation!
@Bruce IFS is listed on the slides…
@@edwardbanner1117 Good then :)
I agree that IFS is a wonderful model with amazing results, however, I notice that the unburdening process is not well aligned with the research on memory reconsolidation as core beliefs are not identified and no attempt is made to directly counteract them. Just saying.
I also agree that IFS is amazing work and yields huge shift in felt sense of overwhelm but I often see the symptoms return over time, as the original emotional learning is not dealt with explicitly and replaced / juxtaposed. Still learning but appreciating the brains needs / along with emotional / somatic side.