In my lawn care business I use this mower. I installed two solar panels on my roof , voltage regulator and a pure sine inverter so I can charge three batteries on rapid charge while I am driving and one battery on rapid charge while I am parked.
I was thinking of doing that as well. How long do they take to charge on a sunny day with the two panels? How many jobs you get through with 4 batteries before swapping them over?
@@bigwangmark I have all electric equipment for my lawn care business. Milwaukee and Makita complete set. I have two solor panels on my roof , pure sine inverter and while the van is running I have 4 batteries on rapid charge and when I am parked with the van turned off I have one battery on charge on a regular charger. I can cut all day on a sunny day charging myself.
I have one,as a professional green keeper I find this a awesome mower❤ Only complaint I would have is that the mowing speed could have 2 speeds When it powers up through thick grass is the second speed I would have and I don’t really use the self propulsion only on severe hills but this is what I believe drains the batteries Excellent machine I can get 1-1 1/2 hours of mowing per 4 batteries
I have this mower except its the non-self-propelled version. It's still heavy, but lighter than the self-propelled model, and it cuts like a beast and gets great battery life. I have no complaints.
I own this mower because I am heavily into the Makita 18 volt ecosystem and wanted to get away from some of the noisy gas mowers used in my business. Although I mostly like it, I don't believe for a minute that a lawn care pro would give this mower anything more than casual consideration, even if they are into Makita's 18 volt tools. I do absolutely agree with your observations on the controls and wheels. Both functions are excellent in my opinion. I am also mostly pleased with battery performance in my current situation since I only use the self propelled function when going up a hill or when starting out in a tight place when changing direction. I also have plenty of 5 amp batteries. As for the battery compartment cover not staying open, no problem as I just prop it open with one battery and have 2 hand access for the other batteries. On the down side, I find that the length of the plastic section that holds the front wheels negativity affects the ability to cut the final 6 to 10 inches immediately in front of a physical barrier such as edging or a wall when you don't have the ability to walk the mower parallel to the barrier. The shear weight of the mower combined with the front end design does not help manuverabily when having to change direction in tight spaces. I think much lighter composite deck like on the Ego would be a huge plus here, though the lighter weight could result in it not staying planted firmly on all 4 wheels at higher ground speed over uneven lawns. Also, in my experience, the deck doesn't provide a true 21 inch cut since there are always too many uncut blades unless I overlap the cutting swath by several inches (I regularly sharpen my mower blades, including this blade). Based on using this mower this past season, this is not my idea of a "professional" mower. The motor doesn't provide the necessary tip speed for a consistently clean cut cuts and the mower's design results in a lack manuverabily to be able to quickly complete one job and move onto the next. I my opinion, the primary reason Makita markets this as a professional grade mower is the heavy steel deck and rubber wheels.
Good points. I definitely agree with I can see most pros moving to this., unless you live in cali with the gas ban and for some odd reason have a ton of batteries.
@@peterprobst6307 oh ok. Here in Australia it comes with 4 swing back blades on a disc, and I’ve seen the bar blade with 2 edges also. I thought maybe it was something you could choose between with certain models. I’m going in today to purchase one so thanks for your review. 👍
I have the Toro High Wheeler 6.5 hp which is probably close to the same weight and I would die trying to push that. It has variable speed but pushing it other then a small area is not an option. I find it hard to believe this pushes eash at that wieght?
They Makita mower is a beast and built very well with heavy deck - high quality wheel bearings - excellent grass catching and best in class wheel high adjustment. I have a small yard so I got mower without the self propelled feature. Its a little heavy but I need the workout. Love this thing no more gas and oil and you can start and stop when every you want not having to pull the cord to do it. Got 2 new batteries on Ebay 6.0 amp hour for $85.00.
Great review. I switched from the EGO platform and I'll explain why. Firstly, the mower itself was great. It's powerful, folds up, not very heavy, overall works good. The downside of EGO is their batteries. They simply do not last. I killed SIX (yes SIX) $380 batteries in a six year timespan. That is insane. The plastic deck sounds great, but one of the problems with it is if you mow around a lot of obstructions. If you're bending tight around a tree you will push the deck into the blade, and you will get impacts on the interior of the deck. Do this long enough and it will cut a hole right through the side of the mower. Secondly, the telescopic handles have flip open locks that disengage from the front. As an engineer, that is a terrible design. Again, if you're bending around obstructions, near bushes, etc. any branch will flip open the lock. The telescopic handles have a battery kill switch inside of them, so when that lock flips open from an obstruction it kills the mower. Overall the mower did feel kind of cheap. Handles would pop off, levers would break, etc. I cant' speak for the newer EGO models, but people need to understand the mower batteries for EGO's cost an absolute fortune and they simply do not last more than 2-3 years each. Factor that $380 expense on top of a $600 mower and I think you'll reconsider.
yep. absolutely agree! i've been slowly offloading all my ego gear for two reasons: (1) tools seems under powered for battery size/power.. (2) battery reliability is pretty low. have a lot of batteries that will go from green to red within a minute of use FROM room temp. 5 bars to 1 bar... plus their batteries are expensive... makita batteries are readily available and have plenty of them for all other tools.
Hmm. That's interesting. I have Makita power tools and I write off at least 2 batteries every year just from normal power tool usage. Nothing that would equate to the high drain, full duty cycle of mowing a lawn or trimming for an hour. I have 3 EGO batteries for 4 EGO tools that I've owned for just less than 2 years. Too early to really tell, but so far they've been flawless cutting my whole lawn in the middle of a Texas summer. I chose the EGO platform specifically because I some people that had other platforms like greenworks etc. that had massive overheating issues. Time will tell.
Thanks for making this video. It’s crazy how there’s not much videos in general about makita OPE but I’m glad you made one. This has help me with my buying decision on this particular model. This thing is a workhorse and your right it is misunderstood/underrated.
Thank you, we just got here in Australia the Makita 36v 21" lawn mower DLM536PT4X kit charger and 4 batteries for $1,350.00 it's a Brushless self propelled model, it's virtually the same but without the rubber mudflap thingy and has the 4 seperate blades. I also until your video did not know at time of purchase that it did not fold down. Naively i thought that was a given with all lawn mowers but i guess its not too much of a big deal it's a two bolt problem easily fixed. I'm currently charging the batteries for the first time ready to fire it up. This video helped a lot to give me some insight and use of this lawn mower once i fire it up as instruction booklets these days are underwhelming and do not say much at all except how to assemble. I didn't realise it had a mulch function at time of purchase until unboxing. It didn't say how to switch between the two and how to use, instructions didn't explain to us the key function so here i am youtubing trying to figure out what it's all about before i use it.
I find the positive reviews on this mower baffling. I have now used it twice and it's going back shortly. Its run time is horrific in anything but the best conditions. If the grass is at all wet and/or you are daring to cut a couple inches off at a time it is lucky to run for 15 min and during the last 5 min of that its diminishing power is extremely noticeable; it is slower and the motor locks up when grass clogs up inside.
Mulching a couple inches of wet grass would bog 90% of all push/propelled mowers. Just another case of somebody who doesn't know how to use a tool properly. Your lawn probably has decades of thatch in it too lmao.
I’ve been struggling with this. I own various Makita 18v tools. A 36 volt Makita Circular Saw, an oscillating tool, a impact driver, an orbital sander, and an 18v trimmer. Very pleased with all of them. Makita makes quality. I’m deciding between the Honda gas powered and this one. Tough choice…
Thank you for the very thorough review. I was looking at whether the mower chute deposited the clippings into the top or bottom of the bagger. The view from the rear of the deck is much appreciated. Thanks again.
Adding this to be consistent in the repetitiveness. when you do more than 1 take, it gets confusing what you actually said... haha, thanks for the feedback!
To do a good cut this Makita works good. I have two Makita 21 self propelled lawn mower and I had an Ego super light that floats on top of the grass. Sold the Ego mower , not good for long hilly lawns.
Agreed. One thing that nobody ever really points out with the plastic mowers is that when you’re cutting anything more than light or medium grass the plastic mowers with the float over the grass instead of cutting it due to the plastic deck. Are usually don’t have this problem because we cut every week. But i’ve experienced this cutting other peoples lawns. Also the plastic deck mowers seem to be the worst on non-flat yards
Excellent review. I hate mowing, so I avaid it as much as I can. BUT, if I were to buy a mower it would be a Makita. I am heavily invested in the 18v platform. This one in particular looks super nice, although I have an interest in the aluminum deck model. I would like to see a comparison between the two. Thank you for the very well done review!
Mark, the DLM533Z is a great mower and it has an aluminum deck that will never rust. It is very quiet and fantastic to use. I highly recommend it over the XML08 or the DLM532 which are both steel deck versions. It is a solid machine.
I use the basket for short grass and side discharge for tall grass, problem is the side discharge chute is flimsy and cheap with both its construction and how its attached, you have to constantly be aware of keeping the RH side over cut grass stop it being pushed off. Would gladly pay extra for a studier side chute, made of aluminum, that bolts on.
I have a Makita and a Milwaukee string trimmer multi power head and I changed both heads to the Echo 400 rapid reload head. Both work a lot better now. Both heads instantly went on with the bolt thread the same that came on the 400 head. I previously bought a Makita rapid reload head but it sucks. Also the side discharge on this mower is to low and any slight hill knocks it off so I trimmed it higher and is fine now.
Nice review. I'm trying to decide between the Milwaukee and this mower. That flap at the rear is not for "striping." It is in place to keep rocks, sticks and other debris from being ejected into your shins. When I was a kid, mowers didn't have that flap. We were always bleeding after mowing. This video is a year old now. Are you still happy with this Makita mower? I am not locked into any manufacturer as my power tools are Milwaukee M12 Fuel. Thank you!
Yep. Thanks for correcting the rear flap function. Yes I am still happy with the mower. The Milwaukee mower is more powerful but has a few issues. Looking to using it some more after a replacement one gets here. I think the best mower would be… the makita xml08 deck, with the Milwaukee power, Milwaukee rear side discharge, makita handles and controls, makita wheels, makita self propel function , Milwaukee self propelled top speed, makita battery compartment (4x batteries) Milwaukee blade, and Milwaukee bagging. That would be a great mower. Personally I don’t care for the handle folding down as don’t use that function. I’m sure others probably want it though.
@@4thewinak Thanks for the reply! I bought the Makita. Very happy with it except for 2 things. #1) Crappy packaging. Nearly impossible to get the damn thing out of the box without cutting the box to shreds. Which leads to #2) Motor drew too much power from the Row 1 Right battery and not enough from Row 1 Left battery. When the Right battery was on 1 bar, the left one was on 2 or 3 bars. Didn't make any difference which of the 4 batteries was placed in that 1 Right bay. Makita said this was a defect and to return it. HD sent it and returned it for free. Also gave me a 10% discount if I ordered a replacement. Which I did. Got it shipped for $628. I'm really happy as I liked the way it mows and handles. Nearly identical to my 32 y.o. LawnBoy M-Series except the self propel bar cut out is on the right on the LawnBoy and on the left on the Makita. Acquired the new muscle memory after 2 mows. Looking forward to receiving the replacement this week.
@@krazmokramer nice! Some hassle but saved some $$$ in the end. Mine does that sometimes, the battery draining issue, but not all the time. I thought it was bc some of my batteries have more wear than others but now I know to look out for it I’ll try to keep a better eye out if it’s consistent. But like I said it’s not always the case. Other thing to point out is the genuine makita replacement blade is not readily available. You could probably get away with a third party but I’ve gotten by with sharpening it. High lift blade also not available, but could probably get away with a 3rd party. Haven’t tried it yet but would be nice if makita made some parts readily available.
You brought back some memories Kraz! Just a look at My shins now 66 yrs and the evidence for a there ! We mowed bare footed in queensland ( but knew not to put Our toes under the old victa two stroke ! best to You
Wow. I ordered one and the packaging was very poor. The assembly parts were apparently in a paper like bag. The packaging was damaged and some of the parts from the bag were in the box but not enough for assembly so I was unable to even try the mower. This mower weighs 106 pounds...consider this if you want to return it. And yes, I called Makita. Makita customer service was not interested in helping me with the missing parts. I didn’t see any parts list in the box, but that could have fallen out the hole in the box during shipping. I have been using Makita tools for literally decades, but this mower convinced me to go in a different direction.
Never had good luck with any customer service, regardless of brand/company. Agreed the mower is heavy, probably not for the regular user, but more designed for roll on and off the trailer folks. I don't think this mower is for most people. Most folks are better off with almost any other mower available. the one good thing i've experience with the heavy mower is when going over lumps, bumps, tall grass/week, it doesn't flop around like a light weight or plastic mower does. on bumpy lawns it handles it well versus flopping around. provides a more even cut.
I have a ryobi but thinking switching to anither brand. I cant decide ob makita or kobalt but they both look nice and batteries dont seem as expensive as ryobi or ego from what i seen
great review, thanks! My desired Milwaukee is too expensive just for the brand loyalty so I'm tihnking tihs one or the Toro Super Recycler. But this one doesn't fold up to store?
I had a 100 lb Honda HRX mower that would not stay on steep hills while mowing across, it would slide down due to the weight nearly impossible to do a straight line. Older mowers have a plastic flap on the back which would act as a catch if the mower rolled backwards down a hill. One owner reported that replacement blades were not readily available for the Makita. How many years are the batteries good for? Assuming one would mow 30 times a season.
Yeah it looks like the replacement blades aren’t that readily available the only ones I was able to find were on Amazon. Hard to say about the batteries. I haven’t had too many makita batteries fell on me. I don’t only use the batteries for the mower. I also cycled the Makita batteries with my other tools so hard to say
@@4thewinak Makita replaced the current batteries with new verson and guess what its more expensive. $219 for two. Amazon has knock offs for $59. Havent checked blades.
How does this mower compare to the new Milwaukee lawnmower ? I presently have two Makita 21 self propelled lawn mower and Makita plus Milwaukee ope tools. Makita is better than Milwaukee ope but the new Milwaukee lawnmower looks better?
I actually like the makita mower better than the Milwaukee mower. I have a few shorts on how the Milwaukee more fall short in many areas especially in terms of reliability. That thing is inexpensive brick. It seems I’m not the only one with this issue. If you check the Milwaukee website it has been flooded with reviews of the same issues. I would get the Makita for now and maybe if Milwaukee makes a GEN two model it could probably be better but who knows
Not quickly. It’s not designed for that. You have to remove the handle bolts. If you want to do that you need to keep a drill or impact on hand with the socket. So you double but will require additional work
I modified mine using my old ICE Honda as an example as well as reusing some of the parts so I can now easily/quickly fold handles for storage. Had to fabricate retaining cupped ends on threaded rod using EMT silver soldered to the rod that’s opened up to fit the contour of the handles pipe for the center pivot. Used bolts with cut off heads at the base pivot that the handle pivots over & then engages as the pivot bolts get screwed in.
I got the Milwaukee mower but sadly it didn’t pick up the trash that great. I had to use the Honda gas mower. My question is the MAKITA better for picking up leaves in crab grass?
i have both and have been using both. I found the milwaukee mower on HIGH lift mode does better than this Makita mower. try using it on high lift mode, and with a high lift blade.
I phoned Makita Canada today and asked if they have a high lift mulching blade for this mower and no they don't. Also said a blade costs $ 65.00 which is a lot.
Hard to say bc depends on environmental factors such as grass, length of cutoff the top, how much self propel action, etc etc. I need 8 batteries to make a full cut on close to an acre, but that includes a lot of hills and I do a trim maintenance cut every week.
@@4thewinak since that post, I got a KMA135, battery, and charger, so I'm locked in to Stihl now. BUT, Makita has a 36v backpack battery system for use with 18x2 or XGT stuff, AND you can pull off the big battery module and plop it atop a serious business mower unit. This all costs $texas, but it looks capable of actual professional lawn service.
@@4thewinak Milwaukee is claiming their new battery mower has 10 foot pounds of tourque. My Toro super recycler is only 7.25 pounds of tourque and it is powerful.
@@Richard-xo2uv I've read the battery issues might be resolved with a cell balancer. Apparently cell imbalance creates a charging problem, if I'm remembering correctly, battery stuff is new to me.
Good review. Not a fan of the side chute design. Have managed to break a few chutes catching them in scrub. Milwaukee have designed their battery mower with chute directed to rear/ side discharge.
Yeah that side chute will easily get dislodged. Happened to me many time already. The Milwaukee designed follows similar to the Toro design where has a rear side discharge. I find that I actually like the rear side discharge better. Especially if you’re trying to get through like a gate or a door
for the lawn enthusiasts it actually leaves the striping in the grass. If you have a lot of plushy rich perfect grass than it will leave nice strip marks behind the mower. For the normal people who have average grass it wont' do much anything besides reduce the debrie kicking out behind the mower.
@@4thewinak Here in Canada, Home Depot does not have the Milwaukee mower yet but I was able to order one . I have two Makita 21 self propelled lawn mowers but I hope this Milwaukee will be a better mower ? If you have any feedback please 🤣🥺 let me know. Cheers.
The wheel dont look sturdy... As soon as you turn the tubber off the back wheel seem like over time it will come off.. u can see that in the video. But all these review is not review after 1 or 2 years result.
Depends on how thick, material, self propelled function your using along other things. For me I need almost 8 batteries to cut a a tad over .75 acres but I think that’s bc I have a lot of steep hills.
Lightweight is good and what did I use it for it’s a lawnmower th-cam.com/users/postUgkxTPN04aT-Qdjr_KS3ql7ng8wnU3wwsCqk also recommend Yes it is lightweight so hence not as robust as our old one. But if you take care it does the job really well.
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In my lawn care business I use this mower.
I installed two solar panels on my roof , voltage regulator and a pure sine inverter so I can charge three batteries on rapid charge while I am driving and one battery on rapid charge while I am parked.
I was thinking of doing that as well. How long do they take to charge on a sunny day with the two panels? How many jobs you get through with 4 batteries before swapping them over?
@@bigwangmark
I have 7 Milwaukee batteries and just charge and rotate them.
@@ronmatthews2250 Wait, this is compatible with Milwaukee batteries???
@@bigwangmark
I have all electric equipment for my lawn care business.
Milwaukee and Makita complete set.
I have two solor panels on my roof , pure sine inverter and while the van is running I have 4 batteries on rapid charge and when I am parked with the van turned off I have one battery on charge on a regular charger.
I can cut all day on a sunny day charging myself.
Excellent, seemingly honest review. Aside from some repetitiveness, there’s not much fluff. I’m buying one.
Funny how you posted a comment about repetitiveness twice.
Hah, yeah, at least mine was more concise. I did buy one, great mower!
when you do more than 1 take, it gets confusing what you actually said...
@@4thewinak Maybe write down what you plan to say for each take..I love this mower and have plenty of batteries since I have there drills ETC
I have one,as a professional green keeper I find this a awesome mower❤
Only complaint I would have is that the mowing speed could have 2 speeds
When it powers up through thick grass is the second speed I would have and
I don’t really use the self propulsion only on severe hills but this is what I believe drains the batteries
Excellent machine I can get 1-1 1/2 hours of mowing per 4 batteries
I have this mower except its the non-self-propelled version. It's still heavy, but lighter than the self-propelled model, and it cuts like a beast and gets great battery life. I have no complaints.
I own this mower because I am heavily into the Makita 18 volt ecosystem and wanted to get away from some of the noisy gas mowers used in my business. Although I mostly like it, I don't believe for a minute that a lawn care pro would give this mower anything more than casual consideration, even if they are into Makita's 18 volt tools. I do absolutely agree with your observations on the controls and wheels. Both functions are excellent in my opinion. I am also mostly pleased with battery performance in my current situation since I only use the self propelled function when going up a hill or when starting out in a tight place when changing direction. I also have plenty of 5 amp batteries. As for the battery compartment cover not staying open, no problem as I just prop it open with one battery and have 2 hand access for the other batteries. On the down side, I find that the length of the plastic section that holds the front wheels negativity affects the ability to cut the final 6 to 10 inches immediately in front of a physical barrier such as edging or a wall when you don't have the ability to walk the mower parallel to the barrier. The shear weight of the mower combined with the front end design does not help manuverabily when having to change direction in tight spaces. I think much lighter composite deck like on the Ego would be a huge plus here, though the lighter weight could result in it not staying planted firmly on all 4 wheels at higher ground speed over uneven lawns. Also, in my experience, the deck doesn't provide a true 21 inch cut since there are always too many uncut blades unless I overlap the cutting swath by several inches (I regularly sharpen my mower blades, including this blade). Based on using this mower this past season, this is not my idea of a "professional" mower. The motor doesn't provide the necessary tip speed for a consistently clean cut cuts and the mower's design results in a lack manuverabily to be able to quickly complete one job and move onto the next. I my opinion, the primary reason Makita markets this as a professional grade mower is the heavy steel deck and rubber wheels.
Good points. I definitely agree with I can see most pros moving to this., unless you live in cali with the gas ban and for some odd reason have a ton of batteries.
Regarding the cut quality, does your mower have the 2 bar blade or the 4 swing back blades?
@@mattwhitecross1347 it's a single blade so only 2 cutting edges.
@@peterprobst6307 oh ok. Here in Australia it comes with 4 swing back blades on a disc, and I’ve seen the bar blade with 2 edges also. I thought maybe it was something you could choose between with certain models. I’m going in today to purchase one so thanks for your review. 👍
I have the Toro High Wheeler 6.5 hp which is probably close to the same weight and I would die trying to push that. It has variable speed but pushing it other then a small area is not an option. I find it hard to believe this pushes eash at that wieght?
They Makita mower is a beast and built very well with heavy deck - high quality wheel bearings - excellent grass catching and best in class wheel high adjustment. I have a small yard so I got mower without the self propelled feature. Its a little heavy but I need the workout. Love this thing no more gas and oil and you can start and stop when every you want not having to pull the cord to do it. Got 2 new batteries on Ebay 6.0 amp hour for $85.00.
Great review. I switched from the EGO platform and I'll explain why. Firstly, the mower itself was great. It's powerful, folds up, not very heavy, overall works good. The downside of EGO is their batteries. They simply do not last. I killed SIX (yes SIX) $380 batteries in a six year timespan. That is insane. The plastic deck sounds great, but one of the problems with it is if you mow around a lot of obstructions. If you're bending tight around a tree you will push the deck into the blade, and you will get impacts on the interior of the deck. Do this long enough and it will cut a hole right through the side of the mower. Secondly, the telescopic handles have flip open locks that disengage from the front. As an engineer, that is a terrible design. Again, if you're bending around obstructions, near bushes, etc. any branch will flip open the lock. The telescopic handles have a battery kill switch inside of them, so when that lock flips open from an obstruction it kills the mower. Overall the mower did feel kind of cheap. Handles would pop off, levers would break, etc. I cant' speak for the newer EGO models, but people need to understand the mower batteries for EGO's cost an absolute fortune and they simply do not last more than 2-3 years each. Factor that $380 expense on top of a $600 mower and I think you'll reconsider.
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yep. absolutely agree! i've been slowly offloading all my ego gear for two reasons: (1) tools seems under powered for battery size/power.. (2) battery reliability is pretty low. have a lot of batteries that will go from green to red within a minute of use FROM room temp. 5 bars to 1 bar... plus their batteries are expensive...
makita batteries are readily available and have plenty of them for all other tools.
Hmm. That's interesting. I have Makita power tools and I write off at least 2 batteries every year just from normal power tool usage. Nothing that would equate to the high drain, full duty cycle of mowing a lawn or trimming for an hour. I have 3 EGO batteries for 4 EGO tools that I've owned for just less than 2 years. Too early to really tell, but so far they've been flawless cutting my whole lawn in the middle of a Texas summer. I chose the EGO platform specifically because I some people that had other platforms like greenworks etc. that had massive overheating issues. Time will tell.
Thanks for making this video. It’s crazy how there’s not much videos in general about makita OPE but I’m glad you made one. This has help me with my buying decision on this particular model. This thing is a workhorse and your right it is misunderstood/underrated.
Thank you, we just got here in Australia the Makita 36v 21" lawn mower DLM536PT4X kit charger and 4 batteries for $1,350.00 it's a Brushless self propelled model, it's virtually the same but without the rubber mudflap thingy and has the 4 seperate blades. I also until your video did not know at time of purchase that it did not fold down. Naively i thought that was a given with all lawn mowers but i guess its not too much of a big deal it's a two bolt problem easily fixed. I'm currently charging the batteries for the first time ready to fire it up. This video helped a lot to give me some insight and use of this lawn mower once i fire it up as instruction booklets these days are underwhelming and do not say much at all except how to assemble. I didn't realise it had a mulch function at time of purchase until unboxing. It didn't say how to switch between the two and how to use, instructions didn't explain to us the key function so here i am youtubing trying to figure out what it's all about before i use it.
I find the positive reviews on this mower baffling. I have now used it twice and it's going back shortly. Its run time is horrific in anything but the best conditions. If the grass is at all wet and/or you are daring to cut a couple inches off at a time it is lucky to run for 15 min and during the last 5 min of that its diminishing power is extremely noticeable; it is slower and the motor locks up when grass clogs up inside.
same experience this is piece of scrap not lawnmower
Mulching a couple inches of wet grass would bog 90% of all push/propelled mowers. Just another case of somebody who doesn't know how to use a tool properly. Your lawn probably has decades of thatch in it too lmao.
I’ve been struggling with this. I own various Makita 18v tools. A 36 volt Makita Circular Saw, an oscillating tool, a impact driver, an orbital sander, and an 18v trimmer. Very pleased with all of them. Makita makes quality. I’m deciding between the Honda gas powered and this one. Tough choice…
If you have a 1/3 acre yard or bigger get the honda.
Sitck with the gas powered Honda. I'm still using mine 30+ years, and have never had a problem with the engine. Still going strong to this day.
I really like Makita products. Great review!
I'm picking mine up tonight after work. I'm excited to try it out hopefully before the rains come . Awesome video and review.
Thank you for the very thorough review. I was looking at whether the mower chute deposited the clippings into the top or bottom of the bagger. The view from the rear of the deck is much appreciated. Thanks again.
Great review on the Makita....the info & your presentation were A1!...Taks for the video!
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent review. Aside from some receptiveness, there’s not much fluff.
Adding this to be consistent in the repetitiveness.
when you do more than 1 take, it gets confusing what you actually said...
haha, thanks for the feedback!
Great video, answered all my questions. Keep up the great work.
thanks!
To do a good cut this Makita works good.
I have two Makita 21 self propelled lawn mower and I had an Ego super light that floats on top of the grass.
Sold the Ego mower , not good for long hilly lawns.
Agreed. One thing that nobody ever really points out with the plastic mowers is that when you’re cutting anything more than light or medium grass the plastic mowers with the float over the grass instead of cutting it due to the plastic deck. Are usually don’t have this problem because we cut every week. But i’ve experienced this cutting other peoples lawns. Also the plastic deck mowers seem to be the worst on non-flat yards
What? Floats? Lol I didn’t even think about that! Wow! Good point , I’m glad I got this one!
Thank you for an awesome review !
Excellent review. I hate mowing, so I avaid it as much as I can. BUT, if I were to buy a mower it would be a Makita. I am heavily invested in the 18v platform. This one in particular looks super nice, although I have an interest in the aluminum deck model. I would like to see a comparison between the two. Thank you for the very well done review!
Mark, the DLM533Z is a great mower and it has an aluminum deck that will never rust. It is very quiet and fantastic to use. I highly recommend it over the XML08 or the DLM532 which are both steel deck versions. It is a solid machine.
Yeah it was a bit of a struggle for lift it on to the table by myself....
I think the aluminum Makita mower has no side discharge.
I use the basket for short grass and side discharge for tall grass, problem is the side discharge chute is flimsy and cheap with both its construction and how its attached, you have to constantly be aware of keeping the RH side over cut grass stop it being pushed off. Would gladly pay extra for a studier side chute, made of aluminum, that bolts on.
Agreed. The side discharge could be better. I would prefer a rear side discharge like toro / milwaukee
Mine was driving me nuts...I took it off.
Nice thorough review. Was looking at this mower. Price is a bit high though
It's really not, tho. 2/3rds of the price is batteries, which are usable on other tools.
When a 5 ah battery 2 pack goes for 300$ the mower is looking more like 100$ to me 😂
Great channel and great review.
I have a Makita and a Milwaukee string trimmer multi power head and I changed both heads to the Echo 400 rapid reload head.
Both work a lot better now.
Both heads instantly went on with the bolt thread the same that came on the 400 head.
I previously bought a Makita rapid reload head but it sucks.
Also the side discharge on this mower is to low and any slight hill knocks it off so I trimmed it higher and is fine now.
Thanks for the review
Thank you
Zero to 30 miles per hour made me chuckle.
yeah it's not the best cyclonic design.
Im thinking going Makita, their mowers are a bit more than ryobi but im told they can last longer and you can get 5/6 ah batteries for it.
So extensive. Thank you so much!
Glad it was helpful!
Nice review. I'm trying to decide between the Milwaukee and this mower. That flap at the rear is not for "striping." It is in place to keep rocks, sticks and other debris from being ejected into your shins. When I was a kid, mowers didn't have that flap. We were always bleeding after mowing. This video is a year old now. Are you still happy with this Makita mower? I am not locked into any manufacturer as my power tools are Milwaukee M12 Fuel. Thank you!
Yep. Thanks for correcting the rear flap function. Yes I am still happy with the mower. The Milwaukee mower is more powerful but has a few issues. Looking to using it some more after a replacement one gets here.
I think the best mower would be… the makita xml08 deck, with the Milwaukee power, Milwaukee rear side discharge, makita handles and controls, makita wheels, makita self propel function , Milwaukee self propelled top speed, makita battery compartment (4x batteries) Milwaukee blade, and Milwaukee bagging. That would be a great mower.
Personally I don’t care for the handle folding down as don’t use that function. I’m sure others probably want it though.
@@4thewinak Thanks for the reply! I bought the Makita. Very happy with it except for 2 things. #1) Crappy packaging. Nearly impossible to get the damn thing out of the box without cutting the box to shreds. Which leads to #2) Motor drew too much power from the Row 1 Right battery and not enough from Row 1 Left battery. When the Right battery was on 1 bar, the left one was on 2 or 3 bars. Didn't make any difference which of the 4 batteries was placed in that 1 Right bay. Makita said this was a defect and to return it. HD sent it and returned it for free. Also gave me a 10% discount if I ordered a replacement. Which I did. Got it shipped for $628. I'm really happy as I liked the way it mows and handles. Nearly identical to my 32 y.o. LawnBoy M-Series except the self propel bar cut out is on the right on the LawnBoy and on the left on the Makita. Acquired the new muscle memory after 2 mows. Looking forward to receiving the replacement this week.
@@krazmokramer nice! Some hassle but saved some $$$ in the end. Mine does that sometimes, the battery draining issue, but not all the time. I thought it was bc some of my batteries have more wear than others but now I know to look out for it I’ll try to keep a better eye out if it’s consistent. But like I said it’s not always the case.
Other thing to point out is the genuine makita replacement blade is not readily available. You could probably get away with a third party but I’ve gotten by with sharpening it.
High lift blade also not available, but could probably get away with a 3rd party. Haven’t tried it yet but would be nice if makita made some parts readily available.
You brought back some memories Kraz! Just a look at My shins now 66 yrs and the evidence for a there ! We mowed bare footed in queensland ( but knew not to put Our toes under the old victa two stroke ! best to You
I have no use for quiet mode. I have no idea why they would use that or put that in the lawnmower.
Wow. I ordered one and the packaging was very poor. The assembly parts were apparently in a paper like bag. The packaging was damaged and some of the parts from the bag were in the box but not enough for assembly so I was unable to even try the mower. This mower weighs 106 pounds...consider this if you want to return it. And yes, I called Makita. Makita customer service was not interested in helping me with the missing parts. I didn’t see any parts list in the box, but that could have fallen out the hole in the box during shipping. I have been using Makita tools for literally decades, but this mower convinced me to go in a different direction.
Never had good luck with any customer service, regardless of brand/company. Agreed the mower is heavy, probably not for the regular user, but more designed for roll on and off the trailer folks. I don't think this mower is for most people. Most folks are better off with almost any other mower available. the one good thing i've experience with the heavy mower is when going over lumps, bumps, tall grass/week, it doesn't flop around like a light weight or plastic mower does. on bumpy lawns it handles it well versus flopping around. provides a more even cut.
I have a ryobi but thinking switching to anither brand. I cant decide ob makita or kobalt but they both look nice and batteries dont seem as expensive as ryobi or ego from what i seen
If you can pickup the xml08 from a homedepot that has it on clearance with 4 batteries included that should be a no brainer.
What kind of torque this put out? And run time? I was just checking this mower out!
great review, thanks! My desired Milwaukee is too expensive just for the brand loyalty so I'm tihnking tihs one or the Toro Super Recycler. But this one doesn't fold up to store?
The lxt one doesn’t, but their xgt model folds. The toro recycler is good also.
I had a 100 lb Honda HRX mower that would not stay on steep hills while mowing across, it would slide down due to the weight nearly impossible to do a straight line. Older mowers have a plastic flap on the back which would act as a catch if the mower rolled backwards down a hill. One owner reported that replacement blades were not readily available for the Makita. How many years are the batteries good for? Assuming one would mow 30 times a season.
Yeah it looks like the replacement blades aren’t that readily available the only ones I was able to find were on Amazon. Hard to say about the batteries. I haven’t had too many makita batteries fell on me. I don’t only use the batteries for the mower. I also cycled the Makita batteries with my other tools so hard to say
@@4thewinak Makita replaced the current batteries with new verson and guess what its more expensive. $219 for two. Amazon has knock offs for $59. Havent checked blades.
How does this mower compare to the new Milwaukee lawnmower ?
I presently have two Makita 21 self propelled lawn mower and Makita plus Milwaukee ope tools.
Makita is better than Milwaukee ope but the new Milwaukee lawnmower looks better?
I actually like the makita mower better than the Milwaukee mower. I have a few shorts on how the Milwaukee more fall short in many areas especially in terms of reliability. That thing is inexpensive brick. It seems I’m not the only one with this issue. If you check the Milwaukee website it has been flooded with reviews of the same issues. I would get the Makita for now and maybe if Milwaukee makes a GEN two model it could probably be better but who knows
Can it be folded and stored vertically?
Not quickly. It’s not designed for that. You have to remove the handle bolts. If you want to do that you need to keep a drill or impact on hand with the socket.
So you double but will require additional work
I modified mine using my old ICE Honda as an example as well as reusing some of the parts so I can now easily/quickly fold handles for storage.
Had to fabricate retaining cupped ends on threaded rod using EMT silver soldered to the rod that’s opened up to fit the contour of the handles pipe for the center pivot.
Used bolts with cut off heads at the base pivot that the handle pivots over & then engages as the pivot bolts get screwed in.
I got the Milwaukee mower but sadly it didn’t pick up the trash that great. I had to use the Honda gas mower. My question is the MAKITA better for picking up leaves in crab grass?
i have both and have been using both. I found the milwaukee mower on HIGH lift mode does better than this Makita mower.
try using it on high lift mode, and with a high lift blade.
I got mine a month ago, batteries last longer than I expected. I don’t use self propel though, I just push it myself.
nice! depends on what you're cutting i guess, but yeah not bad. pretty much on bar with other battery powered mowers in runtime.
I phoned Makita Canada today and asked if they have a high lift mulching blade for this mower and no they don't.
Also said a blade costs $ 65.00 which is a lot.
are there knock off blades available at all
I really want to know the length of battery time before the switch.
Hard to say bc depends on environmental factors such as grass, length of cutoff the top, how much self propel action, etc etc. I need 8 batteries to make a full cut on close to an acre, but that includes a lot of hills and I do a trim maintenance cut every week.
Makita needs to make XGT mowers before I need to buy one, or I'm getting a Stihl.
i think they made one. actually i would really like a 40v x2 blower with high static pressure
@@4thewinak since that post, I got a KMA135, battery, and charger, so I'm locked in to Stihl now.
BUT, Makita has a 36v backpack battery system for use with 18x2 or XGT stuff, AND you can pull off the big battery module and plop it atop a serious business mower unit. This all costs $texas, but it looks capable of actual professional lawn service.
How does this Makita mower compare to the new Milwaukee mower ?
I bought two of these Makita 21" mowers BUT my gas Toro mowers work a lot better.
I wish i could get my hands on the Milwaukee Mower...
Battery powered cannot compare to gas powered in terms of rotation speed, and power.
@@4thewinak
Milwaukee is claiming their new battery mower has 10 foot pounds of tourque.
My Toro super recycler is only 7.25 pounds of tourque and it is powerful.
I'd love to see a comparison of this against Milkwaukee.
me too!
The Milwaukee is one nice mower but on their website, owners are reporting many issues with the batteries.
@@tonymontana3742 I ordered one and used it last weekend. So far no issues.
@@Richard-xo2uv I've read the battery issues might be resolved with a cell balancer. Apparently cell imbalance creates a charging problem, if I'm remembering correctly, battery stuff is new to me.
4.5 batteries to cut your lawn, what size batteries ???
Do you need to use the Self Propelled feature?
Good review. Not a fan of the side chute design. Have managed to break a few chutes catching them in scrub. Milwaukee have designed their battery mower with chute directed to rear/ side discharge.
Yeah that side chute will easily get dislodged. Happened to me many time already. The Milwaukee designed follows similar to the Toro design where has a rear side discharge. I find that I actually like the rear side discharge better. Especially if you’re trying to get through like a gate or a door
Do the arms fold so that the mower can be stored vertically?
No. Not this model. The xgt mower does.
You complimented the nice rubber flap. What is the point of the flap? What does it do?
for the lawn enthusiasts it actually leaves the striping in the grass. If you have a lot of plushy rich perfect grass than it will leave nice strip marks behind the mower. For the normal people who have average grass it wont' do much anything besides reduce the debrie kicking out behind the mower.
Safety feature required on all mowers. protects you from having rocks or sticks come flying out and hitting you at full speed.
I just bought one havent got it...but im concerned about seeing it on reviews not very good outlook
how did it turn out?
Are you cutting on the lowest setting in this video?
Can this mower go in reverse? I have a small yard and getting into certain spots it's easier to reverse than to keep going on forward.
Not by self propel function. You can pull it in reverse.
@@4thewinak thank you for your response!
How does this Makita mower compare to the new Milwaukee lawnmower and the new Echo 56 volt mower that is half the price ?
Will have to find out. got the Milwaukee mower recently and that thing is also a beast!
@@4thewinak
Here in Canada, Home Depot does not have the Milwaukee mower yet but I was able to order one .
I have two Makita 21 self propelled lawn mowers but I hope this Milwaukee will be a better mower ?
If you have any feedback please 🤣🥺 let me know.
Cheers.
Are the tires replaceable or do you have to replace the whole rim and tire assembly?
im not sure, but even finding the part availability could be challenging.
The wheel dont look sturdy... As soon as you turn the tubber off the back wheel seem like over time it will come off.. u can see that in the video. But all these review is not review after 1 or 2 years result.
How long do all 4 batteries last while mowing?
too many variables factor into answer this question, but so far seem on par with most battery mowers in terms of acres cut per amp hour of battery.
“Or what not”
Runtime please?
Depends on how thick, material, self propelled function your using along other things. For me I need almost 8 batteries to cut a a tad over .75 acres but I think that’s bc I have a lot of steep hills.
Only damned well runs for 40 mins...batteries will be poked in 2 years lol
Lightweight is good and what did I use it for it’s a lawnmower th-cam.com/users/postUgkxTPN04aT-Qdjr_KS3ql7ng8wnU3wwsCqk also recommend Yes it is lightweight so hence not as robust as our old one. But if you take care it does the job really well.
I have one and I think its trash. Not enough power!!
Makita is a nice mower but the Milwaukee is better
Todos los lawnmower de baterías son una porqueria no duran mucho si tu pasto esta un poco alto compré una y fue tirar mi dinero a la basura