SIMAGIC Alpha Mini & GT Neo 1st Impressions MOVING from Fanatec DD1 & Formula V2
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- SIMAGIC Alpha Mini & GT Neo 1st impressions after moving from Fanatec DD1 & Formula v2 wheel after 3 years with Fanatec ecosystem.
This video features my very first drive in ACC & Le Mans Ultimate with the Simagic Alpha Mini direct drive wheelbase and Simagic GT Neo (300mm) wheel.
Only FFB tweaks were the % in Simagic software and the gain setting in ACC (60%).
Sims/Car/Tracks for wheel testing.
ACC Mclaren 720S EVO at Imola.
LMU Porsche 911 RSR at Spa.
LMU Porsche 963 Hypercar at Monza.
I will need to keep on driving with the new wheelbase & wheel the to develop some confidence to push, the new Simrig has changed my pedal position & angle and my FOV is now quite different (sitting closer to my 3x32" monitors).
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Which wheelbase and wheel do you have? I'm very satisfied with my Simagic purchase. Now for some driving!
I went from Logitech, to Fanatec, to Moza, to simagic, and I really enjoy the simagic gear. Super happy with the simagic hydraulic pedals. It has and amazing amount of configurations for the load cell brake pedal. The haptics on the pedals is pretty dang good.
Is the smoothness of the wheel base a massive difference from your moza?
@@emouthic556 To me, the simagic FFB feels like it has a little more detail. Moza's FFB feels muted when comparing them, no matter the settings I would use. The Moza does feel stronger, but it does have 1 more nm of strength than the Simagic Alpha.
I went from a 10yo Clubsport and BMW rim to the Mini and the Neo after a great deal of research. After getting used to it (soft and hardware) my first thought was "You cheating dogs!" hah. The information coming from the wheel was like going from dialup to broadband and made my gameplay so much more immersive. I have had it for a couple of weeks and the honeymoon period shows no sign of coming to a close. I have also just found out how good older street cars are with 1200 degrees of rotation and ATS run with over 2k wheel rotation just puts me there.
BTW I put the hard lock at 220 for ACC. It is not often in the big scheme of things that I have to go past that in GT3's but I can push through it when needed but a tank slapper wont adjust my thumbs to places I do not like. Also GT3 across the top of Bathurst now has a whole level of pucker factor that I have not experienced before. Zero regrets on the ecosystem change.
Hi Shane, my very first wheel was a Thrustmaster T80, then G920, T300 RS, then the DD1 for the last 3 years, and now the Simagic.
Direct drive is absolutely the way to go if everyone can.
The DD1 was too much for me due to the older rig I had and an ongoing left shoulder issue. I didn't run it above 6-8NM in ACC and lately LMU/AMS2.
The Simagic Alpha Mini 10Nm is more than enough for me in ACC, LMP2 & HY cars in LMU.
The 300 mm wheel is a really nice upgrade, too. I'm impressed, and as a bonus, I've set a new PB at Le Mans in LMU yesterday and then improved again today.
Thanks for watching.
@@JamesClarksonSimracing Same situation here, I have DD1 and have developed a shoulder impingement which probably is more due to the ergonomics of my previous setup. I've also reduced force to 6-8 nm whilst trying to rehab my shoulder. I was planning to swith to Asetek Invicta later this year but will probably have to reconsider it. How's your shoulder improving? I've just had 2 weeks of rest and recovery is very slow...
I had the left shoulder issue for a few months, kind of on/off, but nearly always present it did improve after running lower FFB for a month or two. The Simagic Alpha Mini I had on maximum torque initially and adjusted the gain down in the sims. I will need to reduce FFB again as my left shoulder struggles to do longer races, which is a shame as I prefer more wheel weight.
The new simrig does mean both seating, wheel position & height changed, so my ergonomics changed last week, so hopefully, things will be different.
It is not great when you have a hobby that you can't enjoy as much as you wish, but stay positive.
Good luck with your shoulder and Simracing.
@@JamesClarksonSimracingI have a t300rs gt and mostly play gt7, any experience with the sigma cortex to connect to playstation? Great video BTW! 👍
Nice video, thanks. Can't wait to ditch the Fanakek gear myself as well. Defs getting the simagic pedals, and probably go with a base from them as well.
The Alpha Mini is definitely smoother than the DD1, which I owned for 3 years. I was going to purchase the Alpha, but just like the DD1, it would have more torque than I would ever need. The Simagic pedals do look very good, I am happy with my Clubsport v3s, though (for now)
Thanks for your comment and for watching. Happy Simracing.
@@JamesClarksonSimracing I've just got the CSL DD 8nm and the standard CSL pedals. I hate the pedals, the load cell brake is like stepping on a brick and very hard to modulate. I feel you on the torque though. Even the pros with 25+ nm bases said 15nm is the sweet spot. I'm pretty new to DD and the 8nm is crazy compared to the old logitech belt drive I had. Thx again!
I have the BPK on the Fanatec ClubSport V3s.
Good video. Why did you get the maglink when you have the Simagic base? Only asking as I am about to order the wheel and base and wondering if I am missing something lol
Got the same combo few days ago, but with alpha base 15nm, great piece of kit comming from csl dd.
I had the Alpha in my basket, but then I tested 10Nm in 3 different Sims in different car classes too after seeing the Raceanywhere.co.uk Simagic bundle it meant I also got my first aluminium profile rig which makes such a difference compared to my years old GT Omega tubular rig.
When I sell the DD1 & V2 wheel, I will recoup most of the outlay on the new base & wheel.
Enjoy the Alpha and GT Neo.
Does the Alpha compare well to the csl dd at lower torque fidelity? Like ffb at 8nm or lower? Did you notice it was an improvement or at least just as good?
@@GregoryShtevensh Well I did not test the alpha on lower than 12-15nm as it was main reason for upgrade ;) wanted a stronger base. Yes the alpha needed quite lot of fine tuning in their software to get it feeling really good.
Was the quality of road textures better on the fanatec?
Like differences between tarmac/grass/rubber strips. I keep hearing the fidelity if road texture is better on the fanatec.
But I'm upgrading from a g29 so probably anything is gonna be great.
I just switched from a CSL-DD 8 nm + McLaren GT3 to a Simagic Alpha + Neo. I didn't really have a major issue with Fanatec or the DD, just wanted some 15+ NM (mostly just to get more exercise!) and Simicube was a lot more expensive for what it is. Really liking it in the first month.
Why not the cs dd or dd+?
@@Benedict00_ItchyManko the dd+ would be the direct comparison which would be more quite a bit more expensive and all the reviews said the simagic was better. I will say the Neo wheel was also fairly convincing since it's a step up from the McLaren GT3 wheel
@@barnabyjames I think I'm going to go for the simagic also. Was thinking the alpha but might go for alpha u so I can run it at 70 percent ffb and that way it runs cooler maybe and more optimal.
But how is the alpha so far? Does it clip a lot? Do you have to turn down the ffb? Thank you.
@@Benedict00_ItchyManko I run at 100% force but use the auto setting in iRacing to avoid clipping. I've turned it up beyond that and it seems plenty strong but what you say about clipping is fair. I would say you won't need it TBH but the extra cost to the ultra is not huge and Simagic seems to be the best value for money right now.
Im using the GT Neo on my Fanatec DD Pro 8nm at the moment. Used the SRM emulator and adapter to connect to the base. Will at some point move over to the Simagic Alpha base but for the time being this setup is working fine. Using the heusinkveld Sprint pedals.
Nice pedals. I will consider replacing/upgrading the Fanatec ClubSport V3s in the future.
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I did the same 1,5 year ago and never looked back.
Only thing I want is that Simagic release a Neo like priced 32cm round wheel because the GT1 is around 450 euro over here and I would only use it for some rally
Freakin love the double clutch gt4 wheel I have though 😍
That'd be a lot just for rally, but if you love rally, perhaps go for it.
I got Alpha 15nm and GT Neo and gt1-R wheel plus p1000 pedal, upgrade from CSL DD 8nm what a massive difference
Very nice. Simagic pedals may have to wait for me as a 5080 is on my shopping list.
Difference how
Good stuff, great to know your switch wasn't a downgrade in any way.
I switched my wheel recently from the McLaren GT3 v2 to GT Neo, a noticeable improvement.
Next switch will be the 8Nm DD to an Alpha wheelbase (the 15Nm one).
For now I'll keep the pedals (CSL Elite v2s) as I really like them.
You will not be disappointed. My GT Neo is still awaiting its decals, but I did get SimHub and Daniel Newman profiles. I have had the Fanatec v3 pedals with the BPK for 3 years, and I am happy with them. Thanks for watching.
@@JamesClarksonSimracing SimHub is fantastic, use it lots and funnily enough only yesterday I signed up with Dan Newman Racing to get hold of the light bar profile!
Glad you feel the same about the pedals, I'm no expert as quite new to sim racing but they feel fantastic to use and built like a tank.
I started my transition to simagic, but might wait on the wheelbase, got the gt neo woth the leoxz qr2core, awesome wheel, dont mind the cable, and the p1000s RS, good pedals, took me a bit to get use to them, but i finally dialed them in and they are awesome. My DD+ is making me slow down on my transition, that wheelbase tho expensive is so "good" i catch slides so easily now, and its so detailed and raw at the same time. I dont think ill upgrade that wheelbase any time soon.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the PSR3 rig - looking at getting this too to go with my Alpha Mini and GT Neo
Hello, I am very happy with the Pro Simrig PSR3. Here is a good video on it. I found it very easy to put together and solid it is more than suitable for the Alpha (15Nm) or other brands. I would hazard a guess that only 25Nm might be too much for it. th-cam.com/video/Ya_vTEs9lLQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=18MlRu42m8lSFSkw
This is where im at.
I have a csl dd 8nm and love it by the way.
But when (if) i make the move to a 15nm base, im not sure if I want the CS DD+ or simagic alpha.
I do think the ffb is gonna be better on the Fanatec. But to be honest, i just wish I knew how big that difference actually is.
As a csl dd user, would I be impressed regardless of which base I chose? Im particularly worried about losing low torque fidelity- something the csl dd is known to be good for
Hello
I'm impressed, and I was on a DD1 for 3 years. The FFB and software are better. The FFB is detailed and smooth.
Not many actually run 15Nm, but nice to have. I thoroughly tested 10Nm on DD1 before deciding Simagic Alpha Mini would be good for me as I had Alpha in basket but I would never use 15Nm, plus a bundle meant a new Simrig which was a very good purchase.
I didn't want to use SRM or Podium hub on DD1 and also upgrade to QR2 for improved QR to use GT Neo.
You wouldn't be disappointed with a DD+ or any modern DD wheelbase. Check out Asetek and others too like I did.
@@JamesClarksonSimracing Thankf for the replay
Strange to go down to 10nm base from DD1. Definitely better quality than Fanatec though
I never used the torque of DD1 (shoulder issue). I wanted GT Neo not prepared to buy the podium hub or 3rd party solution and a comparable QR. Sale of DD1 and v2 with APM nearly pays for the brand new Simagic kit, plus with Raceanywhere bundle I have a brand new aluminium rig.
I'm 100% satisfied.
@@JamesClarksonSimracing just got a pre owned/never used logi pro wheel (still on a desk and felt it was the best buy once cry once choice for my needs) coming from a g923 i have no idea how any one could use 11 nm for prolonged racing.. im running it at 30 percent in AC then tuning it on a car by car basis.. im sure i will increase it as i adapt but being on the wrong side of 40 im not willing to strain my self to much just to feel like im not wasting any power lol
@awakeandwatching953 Enjoy the wheel, the older we get the more aches and pains that come and go randomly.
Happy Un Boxing day
Just wondering why would you change from a great system to a great system? - Wheres the upgrade?
I went from csl dd to moza r9 to simagic alpha mini.... simagic is much better. My only issue is coil whine if (which I dont anyway) use force feedback detail above 9. Otherwise zero complaints. I need to get the maglink for more flashy lights on the gt neo.
I do wish the gts wheel was cheaper as need a round wheel for arcade racers... cannot justify £400.
The maglink is good and not too expensive, I have mine fitted now it has a USB extension and a mount with T-nut & screws. I now have SimHub, which has an added benefit of showing my sector and average laptimes in LMU. I need to look at Daniel Newman Racing RPM profiles.
For what is the Maglink when you use the Simagic Wheel Base?
Sim hub support
thx
Given that it has half the power of the DD1 did you find that the lack of power output hindered your ability to drive precisely?
Hello, 10Nm is fine for myself, I never ran above 10Nm on the DD1, I have set 2 new personal bests using the Simagic Alpha Mini to date. I love the wheelbase, it's software, quick release, maglink and the GT Neo (I just need to decide on sticker positions).
I have SimHub and have Daniel Newman Racing profiles to look into.
Do you feel like the mini has enough detail for gt3 and f1?
Hello, I can't offer an opinion on Formula cars as I don't drive them but just like any other sim many are fast enough on belt drive wheels. Any direct drive should be sufficient, depending on your preference. If you are built like Jardier, then you would probably want the Alpha. 10Nm is great for me.
i would like to get simagic but the pedals are crazy expensive
The Simagic pedals sure do look good though.
Got Moza R5 now but goin for simagic when my wallet says yes :D only do rally so going for a round wheel, hate to say it but that fanatec wheel looks 100 times better than the neo.
I would recommend Simaic after doing some practice and my very first race today (LMP2 in LMU).
The v2 is decent but too small for GT driving, IMO. I didn't know any different till now. I like both, though. PRO's and CON's with everything. Choice is good.
Simagic is 1 million times better than fanajunk! Had fanatec and switched to full Simagic and another setup that is full moza
So how is it compared to the dd1 So far?
Hello, I absolutely love the Simagic. I have improved the FFB settings now and run several new personal bests. In short, it is smoother and more detailed. I got the wheel I want without a podium hub (or SRM emulator) & comparable QR2 upgrade. As the Simagic QR is night and day different to the old Fanatec QR.
@@JamesClarksonSimracing nice to hear! Thanks!
Hi James - thanks for the review --> Why you are using the Maglink-kabel? You dont need this if you use a Simagic Base.
For settings I would recommend this Video: th-cam.com/video/eHsOjCDAilo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=FCuyrJ1ZN4hlvMeO
Hello, as per my other reply, Maglink is my preference, and the wireless connection doesn't allow SimHub to configure RGBs.
The settings in the video you linked are almost identical to my own tweaked settings, and I have set 3 new personal bests with my FFB settings. I will likely share when I drive other cars in LMU, ACC, and AMS2.
FFB feeling is improved over default, so I'm even happier.
Actually there is one complaint, that stupid green led!
It is quite bright but when I'm driving I don't notice it. I did think I could cover it, but I have not done so. Perhaps the green light can be a prompt to channel the "Inner Hulk" in tough races.
@@JamesClarksonSimracing tbf I have a tablet holder in front for a dash but pretty silly placement especially when you cannot dim.
@@easybreeze1 glue a black tape on it.
@user-pt8uu1yu8n yes I appreciate there are easy solutions, but it shouldn't come down to that
I'm so confused with how you are grabbing the wheel, they even add a groove to be easier to grab it with how it's designed to.
Hello its fine now, just very first impressions, Jardier mentioned something similar but I 100% love the wheel. Thanks for watching.
Asetek and GSI spoiled
Why drive a different car you’re not used to for a review lol