Because people keep asking... my thoughts on Onision: th-cam.com/video/veiAIeS5mpA/w-d-xo.html Also, if you wish to read the full police report, I have uploaded it here: drive.google.com/file/d/1NsxPcXKtFzR0Zw6ua6-1jy3viqQxbMNR/view?usp=sharing Original PDF credit to @RecordsCitizen, I just performed some OCR on it so you should be able to copy and paste bits from it now
I dont think Chris Hansen ruined anything, and he is no more responsible than dozens of other TH-camrs. Hansen at least did all he could, he did contact authorities and he put "victims" in contact with authorities. The problem is, Onision is a jerk and he did some dubious things, but he didnt break the law. He didnt sleep with under age girls. Fangirls tried to weazel their way into Onision's internet famous life then when they fell out of favor they turned on him and played the victim. I think they all deserve each other.
@@tubester4567 He didn't contact the authorities, and he encouraged the victims to contact the authorities through him (like sending him evidence instead of sending it to the authorities). The thing is, Onision did break the law by transporting underage girls across state lines for the purposes of sex, and he admitted to doing that. What bugs me is that this should have been an open-and-shut case. The problem was, and had always been, Chris Hansen's incompetence. He's a good reporter who's great at self-promotion, but he has always been awful at actually bringing the people he reports on to justice. What I find baffling is that at the start of this Onision was a universally-disliked has-been TH-camr who had one big viral hit years ago and is now mostly known for cringy videos and terrible books as he desperately tried to become famous again. Now, people like him more than ever simply because he came out of this situation looking like a very charming and innocent man simply because Chris handled everything so poorly. This is like if Moviebob was in an internet fight with Keanu Reeves where, somehow, Moviebob ends up looking like the good guy at the end while Keanu's reputation is ruined. It takes a special kind of incompetence to lose a PR battle with Onision, of all people.
I knew that you were correct also. Onision was never ever a talent but a rapist...?... I kind of doubted. He was not going to prison I Hate onision but whatever .
@@qty1315 The police did an investigation though, and they filed a report saying there was no case to answer. How is Chris responsible for that? There is no evidence of Onision "sleeping with underage girls". Even if he started talking with them at 17, thats not a crime. Those girls were all fangirls who pursued him even though he had a bad reputation on the internet and he already had a partner. I dont see those girls as victims at all.
Unfortunately, this situation is what it is, and a lot of us knew this is what it would be all along. Being a scumbag isn't illegal. Onision has done a ton of unsavory things, but he's been smart enough to know exactly where the legal line is. He's tiptoed ever so close, but has managed to not cross that line. Again, he's a garbage human being, but it doesn't mean he's prosecutable.
Unfortunately but hey at least a LOT of people know he doesn’t anything from anyone His Patreon was taken down, his TH-cam is demonitized, who knows how he’s winning his bread but the Internet won’t let their claws off of him EVER He makes another Patreon? We’ll take that down Twitter? Ko-Fi? Fucking Only Fans? We’re gonna take that down and not let this bastard get away with anything
I want to preface this by saying I’ve always thought it was weird that chris went to onision’s house, but “...it’s chris hansen” will never fail to make me laugh
Because that was the style of content Chris Hansen got famous for. He would do undercover camera operations on shady businesses and stuff then go confront them.
Jeez, anyone who thought Chris Hansen's involvement = guaranteed conviction really doesn't know much about Chris Hansen. Pretty sure people have been let OFF charges because of his involvement over the years.
To Catch a Predator was great entertainment no doubt and he probably genuinely wanted to catch those creeps but with the way he went about it and the legal system, all it would take was for those predators to hire a decent enough lawyer to build a good enough case using his involvement as evidence for them to walk
it’s true. back when he did TCAP there was a whole group of pedos who had all their charges dropped after one predator took his own life. they went to the guys home with the cops…crazy
@@cysticcrystal2998 - Yeah, and even before then, a few judges had thrown cases out because they didn't like TCAP's tactics. TCAP basically used the fact that some states had a law that allowed someone to be charged even if they hadn't actually groomed a minor as long as they thought that was what they were doing. I don't think that law is on the books in every state, which is why the investigations they did were only focused in a few places.
Its not Hansens fault that the police didnt find any crimes that could be prosecuted. How is Hansen different to dozens of other TH-camrs? At least Hansen did contact police and put "victims" in contact with police. He did all he could possibly do. The problem was there are no crimes. Fangirls pursued Onision the jerk and when they fell out of favor, they turned on him and played the victim. They all deserve each other.
This should be a case study on how not to handle an investigation. Chris accuses "drama channels" of clout chasing, while he simultaneously publicizes an investigation that he knows is dead in the water, simply so he can be seen as the hero. What's worse, his videos and methods could all be taken to court as evidence of harassment, and Onision could not only get off scott-free, but also make a ton of money in legal payout, should he choose to take it to court
And even worse: some of Onisions' victims actually said that they didn't want their stories publicized (Sarah). Ayalla (best friend of Billie) also asked that he not mention her because it was negatively impacting her ability to find a job. He ignored all of them and told their stories anyway. Shiloh later turned against him, as well.
Tbh I thought it was strange for chris to go to his house. I know he was trying to interview him but I always thought it was wrong to go straight to the guy’s house.
@@eggsanko4491 lie detectors dont prove much of a anything, but im 100%, sure @ Shiloh is lieing about alot, there is a reason why all the girls hate her more than they hate each other
Chris 'Cameo' Hansen doesn't like negative exposure. Really makes one wonder why he keeps doing painfully stupid things over and over expecting different results. And long ago I actually enjoyed Hansen's shtick on TCAP and Dateline. Oh how the mighty have fallen.
It's a bit sad that Sara says she isn't sure if she is a victim of a crime. Might be due to feeling responsible for it (there are plenty ways to say no, but as a victim you often dismiss your own efforts). Anyways, if something had traumatised her, I hope she gets to heal and someday get justice for it. Other than that I think we all can agree that onision is a scumbag
Sara saying she was not sure if she was a victim of a crime, clearly means she has been repeatedly told by friends, and the online anti-o community that she has been a victim. But take all that BS away, what crime happened that she could press charges over? The laptop was from Kai, and there is video evidence that would prove there is enough reasonable doubt that Kai would not face any prison time. So apart from that which has a weak foundation there is nothing left to be a victim of crime from.
@@Nelcomarproductions The FBI reached out to her. She wasn't filing a police report. The reality of the situation is Sara didn't actually think she was a victim when rubber met the road and the professionals got involved.
Chris Hanson built a channel on the back of Utube gossip. He's a narcissist. He couldn't cope with his firing (he'd probably say losing his job was "A. Steal"). His public disgrace over cheating on his wife pricked his ego. He's just a vexatious slob. Great reporting on your part.
Awesome - and the creepy ending music? Master Stroke, Dude! From beginning to end, Hansen did nothing to fix this Onision issue and simply threw everyone under the bus. I was blocked from Hansen's Twitter, harassed by Anti-Os and even had someone frighten me by using a food service app to show me pics of my house from Ways, Google Earth and Apple's navigation app. And I'm a fucking NOBODY!!! It was sick and useless and just left me with a broken heart. I had so many good friends on Twitter I had to stop contacting only because I was afraid these degenerates would do, say or send vile things to them. And for what? For FUCKING WHAT?! Hansen screwed you lot for $25 in Twinkie and Hot Pocket money a show. Pathetic, really.
next time someone sends your location just say "oh i forgot my exact location on earth for where i live. thanks!" jokes aside im sorry my gal/guy, dont let it get to you. maybe talk with your friends on other and more private social platforms like discord and such.
Glad you’re back man. Whenever I feel down on myself for not accomplishing specific goals I have set, I sit back and think to myself “it’s alright man at least you’re not Chris Hansen”
Hi Dacept! Do you have any longer docs planned for any time soon? You have a crapton of potential and I would love to see something like 50+ minutes from you!
I 100% believe onision has groomed his spouse, Sarah and Shiloh. But the evidence and cooperation of the victims with the police just isn't there so he cannot be jailed for his crimes. Sad case that men like him can take advantage of minors and get away with it.
Can still hope Sara wins her civil suit, bankrupts that a-hole, and people stop feeding that tool the attention. So he can be poor and angry with nothing but his spouse left to listen to his tantrums.
Glad you’re back John! I love how you weave your deep dives into topics together. I feel like Hansen could not fathom the difference between cable tv and internet audiences. The generation gap too. As the social media generation, we are far more skeptical. It paid off big in this case. Hansen is a sanctimonious, scumbag philanderer. Not a hero. The end.
Overall great video John All that can be really said is Chris Hansen is nothing but a charlatan who wanted to regain the former fame he once had, he didn't care about this case, all he wanted is to be the big star he once was, in the end there was no justice, and Hansen in the end didn't end up like the hero he once was, this time He became the villain.
@@miso.soup.. except Chris hansen never did anything. perverted justice actually "caught" the predators and actual charges and jail time over tcap is really not a lot
Been waiting for this. I really respect your point of view and knowledge, please don't sell yourself out with any more shenanigans bro. Please don't embarrass me for being a fan of yours again. Said respectfully and hopefully constructively.
@@TheAlexR96 As far as I understand, because I wasn’t really looking into the drama when it happened, he admitted to impersonating dream and sending vulgar messages to people but that’s about all I know you can probably look it up there were videos on it I believe
Well put and exactly my own hope. May JS not let us down again; his brilliance is needed, his shenanigans are not. Anything gained by deception is not worth having. The younger you are when you learn this the better your life is. No exceptions.
@@jenmdawg that last part was spot on.. too bad there are plenty of grown ass people.. well, what I like to call “aged children” who still haven’t caught on to that yet. We’ve all done dumb and ignorant things. Things that we all learned from. If the ignorance continues, you didn’t learn from it no it will always surface eventually. If you did learn from it, your past doesn’t define who you are.
Imagine the damn stress you would live with hearing that police and FBI are investigating you. Onision probably was all fucked up he's already nuts so I'm sure this wasn't helpful lmao. Chris is such a liar.
I appreciate the work you put in to this. I've been out of the loop since Hansen stopped putting out that content. Kind of want all those hours back I spent back then so invested in what was going to be ultimately pointless other than for Hansen and Shiloh's self interests.
This case is a great example of the argument from position of authority fallacy. Hansen knew this would be a big thing for him because of his previous works. He banked on everyone believing him.
I understand that this video, and in a large part, most Onision/Chris Hansen videos are focusing on just that. But I do think there should be a bit more light on the police in this situation. It's obvious that there are so many things going on with Onision and the way the police handled it was less than great. That isn't to say everyone else didn't have a part in it all. The people spamming the police were out of line. Chris Hansen failed at his job and then lied about it. And Onision is Onision. The whole thing could've been handled better all around
I've never really respected Chris Hansen. I think about the amount of pedophiles who have gotten away just because he botched their cases, or the way he prioritizes humiliating predators on camera over actually bringing them to justice. He's not really a cop, and it shows. EDIT: Okay, so, he didn't even actually bring predators to justice, it was mostly staged. Obviously much better.
So, I'm so confused. I thought the laptop was never given to the FBI. I thought the laptop was just at Chris' assistants place, and nothing was done with it since he was waiting for directions from Chris. So, the laptop was eventually given to the FBI?
Correct, the laptop was eventually sent to the FBI, but it sat at the assistants house and he even said he was going to copy the hard drive, making it tampering with evidence. So after Sara found out, they sent it back to her and she submitted the laptop to the FBI. I believe this was over 6+ months after she gave the laptop to Hansen.
Lmao repzillons videos on onision always bothered me, not because I liked onision but because it’s like obsessive and weird how many videos he makes like he made videos on him doing things that weren’t even big deals and it just over shadowed all the actual bad shit he did
It's symbolic that in his old tv show Chris Hanson is always seen standing up , Now he is sitting in every video, telling us he is sitting on something. He seems to be taking a seat himself
That cop made me laugh. He clearly doesn't understand the concept to time - pick a time zone (or even use GMT) and stick to it and you can generate a timeline.
Chris Hansen feeds off of the desire for drama from the social media clones. These are people that love to hear themselves talk and ramble on about social justice issues that they really know nothing about. It's more important to these people to be trendy and sound smart than it is to see the reality of a situation.
"This person I've never met made a post on Twitter, and I can't stop thinking about it. I'll call 911" Seems about right. Great vid as always, John. Keep up the good work.
You should have been: "We are deep into the investigation of Chris Hansen" or a variation of it, hahaha.. Man, this was a beautiful series.. Faith in John Swan - starting to get restored.. Imagine if Onision pulled a Boogie and fired a warning shot at Chris Hansen.. That would have been epic..
I think some people forget that Chris Hansen's credentials as a predator catcher have never involved him having to find evidence or to find victims of crimes. With TCAP, he wasn't going out looking for people who had abused children, gathering evidence and testimony, and bringing them to justice. He (along with Perverted Justice) was essentially creating the evidence from scratch. That's not to defend any of the people caught by his investigations; but it is to say that Hansen's ability to do anything more than interview people who got caught by the net is basically untested - until now, when it's been shown to be pretty lacking). Hansen was never having to deal with victims refusing to come forward, or victims who might not actually be victims, or the fuzzy edges of the law regarding grooming. On TCAP they made as sure as they could that there wouldn't be any doubt about whether the crime had been committed (although they weren't always successful), but in real life, things are just a lot messier than that. Even then, judges didn't always agree with their methods, and a fair number of people caught by TCAP weren't convicted as a result. I'm also pretty sure that the law that allowed TCAP to use chatlogs that didn't involve any actual minors only applied in some states. It's pretty easy to assemble a case against someone when you're on the other end of the Internet conversation, purposefully guiding it in that direction because you want to have that evidence. And I think it has presented a misleading sense of how black and white and straightforward any investigation would actually be.
My father has explained this to me before: the media and the internet can really impact the way that cases such as these go ahead. People talking about the allegations a lot and sometimes even lying about some things, especially if they start to go viral, impact the public opinion of this person which can get to the justice system and impact them. And sometimes what happens is that the courts will not go ahead with the case because the public has been involve so much with the case that it can impact the opinion and verdict of the justice system, thus they believe they cannot make a fair judgment on the perpetrator and will dismiss the case. It has happened to some predators that have had hard evidence of them being predators, but their cases has been dismissed because of how public expression and viral allegations being spread alongside impactful opinions are seen to be impactful upon the verdicts of the just system. Chris Hansen has ruined any chance of Onision going to prison. I doubt that Onision will ever go to jail, but this man deserves to suffer in a very special part of hell for groomers and predators.
@@The_greatest_sperg oh gross. Literally just move on. You dont need to address it. Apologize to the guy on twitter. Move on with regular content. Why do we need these fake "uhh im better now that i was caught" videos??
Anyone else getting tired of hearing Hansen’s discovery ad repeatedly?? If I could spend the rest of my life without hearing Chris Hansen saying “Onision”..
When it comes to people like Chris Hansen they still have not completely realized that the way the news, information gathering & dispersing & the ability to publicly disagree is a VERY different animal than it was when they were in their "heyday". The Onision story is the perfect example of this; Chris Hansen didn't stumble upon this story he took the work of people in the TH-cam community & tried to put his name on it. Then he truly believes that the only information that will not only be believed but available will come from him. In his "world" the only ones that may questions his reporting, his stance & the validity of his words would either be from fringe reporters or an exposé that would come out months maybe years later when the public had already moved on. So so so many things about this investigation were just bungled. The mass amounts of call to the police & CPS regarding Onision only made law enforcement see it as a joke but the most harm came directly from Hansen. I hope that every single one of the victims (and yes I 1000% believe these women's stories & allegations) can find peace. And as one survivor to another I would encourage them all to remember that they went from being a "victim" to "victorious" the second they went public and showed that rather poor excuse for human slime that he no longer has control over them. They will succeed / fail, love / hate, win / lose and live with the knowledge that they are stronger than Onision could ever be. They will go on knowing that he has no power because who they are, who they become is not because of this piece of trash & his horrors but in spite of him. Love to the ones to help bring these stories to light with the hope of doing good in this world & love to all the brave survivors out there.
You're giving CH too much credit. If you look through many of the things he's done through sociopathy and narcissism lenses, it lines up fairly well. Way more than just not changing with the times.
eyyyyy glad you are back on a regular schedule. I felt bad how things turned out for you in the end even when you were kinda at fault and I understood where you were coming from. keep it up... will be watching this content that I love
Honestly it was really obvious that Chris was using Onision for views (I didn't even know Chris' whole backstory then, just that he hosted To Catch a Predator), but the 911 call "It's Chris Hansen" never gets old lmao! To be the dispatcher in that moment
Doesn't matter if you think someone is sus or cringe or creepy. If they aren't breaking the law then they aren't breaking the law. That's how laws work. Btw I'm not a fan of Onision.
Totally agree in terms of arrests etc. However there are two other big things to consider. 1, should the law be changed? The internet evolves very quickly and the law is definitely behind the times across the board. 2. Just because it isnt illegal doesnt you mean you cant/shouldnt hate the person. Bullying isnt illegal, but I hate bullies. (Maybe not a great example but you get the point)
It's so sad that Chris' ego got in the way of any chance there may have been at a criminal case against Onision and Kai. Good to see you back at it, Jon. Dont fuck up this time.
Whats even sadder is nobody but Sarah actually worked with the police. After all that. Telling your story just to give up on finishing the chapter that would close the book....
I learnt one thing...TH-cam is now a dumpster fire of creators. I come to TH-cam for fails, memes and news replays. All these creators dramas and wanna-be cops are cringy af
Awesome job Mr Swan. Watched your whole series on this creep. Was surprised you didn’t mention his few episodes he did with “to catch a cheater”. He truly showed his self in those. Especially at the end when he starts hitting on the women, lmao
From the was Hansen says and refers to Social Media, it makes me think that he doesn’t know what it is, how to use the words, and would not be able to describe it
Because people keep asking... my thoughts on Onision: th-cam.com/video/veiAIeS5mpA/w-d-xo.html
Also, if you wish to read the full police report, I have uploaded it here: drive.google.com/file/d/1NsxPcXKtFzR0Zw6ua6-1jy3viqQxbMNR/view?usp=sharing
Original PDF credit to @RecordsCitizen, I just performed some OCR on it so you should be able to copy and paste bits from it now
I dont think Chris Hansen ruined anything, and he is no more responsible than dozens of other TH-camrs. Hansen at least did all he could, he did contact authorities and he put "victims" in contact with authorities. The problem is, Onision is a jerk and he did some dubious things, but he didnt break the law. He didnt sleep with under age girls.
Fangirls tried to weazel their way into Onision's internet famous life then when they fell out of favor they turned on him and played the victim. I think they all deserve each other.
Bro my bad my notifications for your channel was switched off by TH-cam again
@@tubester4567 He didn't contact the authorities, and he encouraged the victims to contact the authorities through him (like sending him evidence instead of sending it to the authorities).
The thing is, Onision did break the law by transporting underage girls across state lines for the purposes of sex, and he admitted to doing that. What bugs me is that this should have been an open-and-shut case. The problem was, and had always been, Chris Hansen's incompetence. He's a good reporter who's great at self-promotion, but he has always been awful at actually bringing the people he reports on to justice.
What I find baffling is that at the start of this Onision was a universally-disliked has-been TH-camr who had one big viral hit years ago and is now mostly known for cringy videos and terrible books as he desperately tried to become famous again. Now, people like him more than ever simply because he came out of this situation looking like a very charming and innocent man simply because Chris handled everything so poorly.
This is like if Moviebob was in an internet fight with Keanu Reeves where, somehow, Moviebob ends up looking like the good guy at the end while Keanu's reputation is ruined. It takes a special kind of incompetence to lose a PR battle with Onision, of all people.
I knew that you were correct also.
Onision was never ever a talent but a rapist...?... I kind of doubted. He was not going to prison
I Hate onision but whatever .
@@qty1315 The police did an investigation though, and they filed a report saying there was no case to answer. How is Chris responsible for that? There is no evidence of Onision "sleeping with underage girls".
Even if he started talking with them at 17, thats not a crime. Those girls were all fangirls who pursued him even though he had a bad reputation on the internet and he already had a partner. I dont see those girls as victims at all.
Chris Hansen in 2034
“We’re making progress in the investigation just be patient”
I come from the future, i can confirm that he is making progress in the investigation a couple of thousand years into the future
I am from the year 3009 and can confirm that Chris is still investigating, FYI - he was cryogenically frozen and now half cyborg 😀
Lol
Chris Hansen will probably still be saying there's an ongoing investigation even after Onision's death lol
Classic, i wonder if he hears himself. I'm defending onision by any stretch, but there a age of consent laws, it's wise to know and follow them.
Unfortunately, this situation is what it is, and a lot of us knew this is what it would be all along. Being a scumbag isn't illegal. Onision has done a ton of unsavory things, but he's been smart enough to know exactly where the legal line is. He's tiptoed ever so close, but has managed to not cross that line. Again, he's a garbage human being, but it doesn't mean he's prosecutable.
Unfortunately but hey at least a LOT of people know he doesn’t anything from anyone
His Patreon was taken down, his TH-cam is demonitized, who knows how he’s winning his bread but the Internet won’t let their claws off of him EVER
He makes another Patreon? We’ll take that down
Twitter? Ko-Fi? Fucking Only Fans? We’re gonna take that down and not let this bastard get away with anything
"You can be unethical and not break the law, that's how i live my life ha ha" -Mark Zuckerberg
Your background music is fkn distracting. Especially the techno music
@@vg4life speak for yourself. i didnt even hear any music, as I was listening to the actual content only.
I want to preface this by saying I’ve always thought it was weird that chris went to onision’s house, but “...it’s chris hansen” will never fail to make me laugh
Because that was the style of content Chris Hansen got famous for. He would do undercover camera operations on shady businesses and stuff then go confront them.
Chris is a scumbag but this is what journalists do
Seemed like a stunt to buy time
When onision says “it’s Chris Hansen” I bust out laughing every single time
HE should of took a long pause and been like....you wont believe this but uh lol
Onision is scummy af but that one time, he got a solid laugh from me
@@GreatBooker hes cool
@@GreatBooker lol jk
@@glorihol6803 Nice save bro.
Jeez, anyone who thought Chris Hansen's involvement = guaranteed conviction really doesn't know much about Chris Hansen. Pretty sure people have been let OFF charges because of his involvement over the years.
It's really so disappointing
To Catch a Predator was great entertainment no doubt and he probably genuinely wanted to catch those creeps but with the way he went about it and the legal system, all it would take was for those predators to hire a decent enough lawyer to build a good enough case using his involvement as evidence for them to walk
it’s true. back when he did TCAP there was a whole group of pedos who had all their charges dropped after one predator took his own life. they went to the guys home with the cops…crazy
@@cysticcrystal2998 - Yeah, and even before then, a few judges had thrown cases out because they didn't like TCAP's tactics.
TCAP basically used the fact that some states had a law that allowed someone to be charged even if they hadn't actually groomed a minor as long as they thought that was what they were doing. I don't think that law is on the books in every state, which is why the investigations they did were only focused in a few places.
It’s not his fault tho it’s not the police either. It’s the justice system and the laws we have in place
Hansen really ruined any good rep he had. If there was a solid case to be made against onion then hansen pretty much ruined it all.
Lol Onion
Onion the psychofood.
Now he's talking about going after commentary TH-camrs.
Chris Hansen is so full of sh**
It’s crazy anybody still believes anything he says or does. 🙄
Its not Hansens fault that the police didnt find any crimes that could be prosecuted. How is Hansen different to dozens of other TH-camrs? At least Hansen did contact police and put "victims" in contact with police. He did all he could possibly do. The problem was there are no crimes. Fangirls pursued Onision the jerk and when they fell out of favor, they turned on him and played the victim. They all deserve each other.
This should be a case study on how not to handle an investigation. Chris accuses "drama channels" of clout chasing, while he simultaneously publicizes an investigation that he knows is dead in the water, simply so he can be seen as the hero. What's worse, his videos and methods could all be taken to court as evidence of harassment, and Onision could not only get off scott-free, but also make a ton of money in legal payout, should he choose to take it to court
I felt the same thing, as C.H obviously harassed Onision/Greg Jackson
There was no crime. The police confirmed it.
I think Onision should take Chris Hansen to court for harassment and make a ton of money in legal payout.
And even worse: some of Onisions' victims actually said that they didn't want their stories publicized (Sarah). Ayalla (best friend of Billie) also asked that he not mention her because it was negatively impacting her ability to find a job. He ignored all of them and told their stories anyway. Shiloh later turned against him, as well.
Tbh I thought it was strange for chris to go to his house. I know he was trying to interview him but I always thought it was wrong to go straight to the guy’s house.
Yeah, how did he think it was going to go? He can’t honestly think Greg was going to come out and talk.
@@blondesense1708 exactly, there is only one way to get this fixed: or figured out. Can we get onision to take a lie detector test?
@@blondesense1708 actually let’s get all of them to take the lie detector test
@@eggsanko4491 lie detectors dont prove much of a anything, but im 100%, sure @
Shiloh is lieing about alot, there is a reason why all the girls hate her more than they hate each other
@@SkyExplosion now that is interesting
"It's Chris Hansen" will never not be funny
I know right? I'm not sure why its so funny, but it gets me every time.
context for those unaware: yellow symbol of death. video had to be reuploaded and reviewed.
Chris 'Cameo' Hansen doesn't like negative exposure. Really makes one wonder why he keeps doing painfully stupid things over and over expecting different results. And long ago I actually enjoyed Hansen's shtick on TCAP and Dateline. Oh how the mighty have fallen.
@@fyt54321 one word. Money. Hansen just likes the end result, not the complications that occur on his way to get it.
Anti-Os: "JUST YOU WAIT, HE'LL ROT IN PRISON"
Hansen: "Anyways, stay tuned for my next investigation"
Commentators: "lol what a shit show"
Ay Star
@@videogames Brandon
I wonder what discovery + will do now 🤔
He gave those girls so much false hope. Hansen blatantly lied to vulnerable people.
Vicious cycle is still Vicious
It's a bit sad that Sara says she isn't sure if she is a victim of a crime. Might be due to feeling responsible for it (there are plenty ways to say no, but as a victim you often dismiss your own efforts). Anyways, if something had traumatised her, I hope she gets to heal and someday get justice for it. Other than that I think we all can agree that onision is a scumbag
Sara saying she was not sure if she was a victim of a crime, clearly means she has been repeatedly told by friends, and the online anti-o community that she has been a victim. But take all that BS away, what crime happened that she could press charges over? The laptop was from Kai, and there is video evidence that would prove there is enough reasonable doubt that Kai would not face any prison time. So apart from that which has a weak foundation there is nothing left to be a victim of crime from.
She is not sure because no crime was committed. If she lied then she would go to jail. That is the truth.
@@Nelcomarproductions What? That's not how that works.
@@yissssss it does. Filing a false police report lands you in jail. This is why Sarah's I don't think a crime occurred is very telling
@@Nelcomarproductions The FBI reached out to her. She wasn't filing a police report. The reality of the situation is Sara didn't actually think she was a victim when rubber met the road and the professionals got involved.
That Emmy statuette sure moves around Chris Hansen's place a lot.
He's gotta make sure its perfectly in frame.
he probably picks it up and walks around giving fake speeches 🤣
I cringed so hard when the 911 calls about the fake meltdown videos happened.
Onision and Anti-O deserve each other. There's no better way to put it.
Chris Hanson built a channel on the back of Utube gossip. He's a narcissist. He couldn't cope with his firing (he'd probably say losing his job was "A. Steal"). His public disgrace over cheating on his wife pricked his ego. He's just a vexatious slob. Great reporting on your part.
I was about to comment...but i can't say it better.
Awesome - and the creepy ending music? Master Stroke, Dude!
From beginning to end, Hansen did nothing to fix this Onision issue and simply threw everyone under the bus. I was blocked from Hansen's Twitter, harassed by Anti-Os and even had someone frighten me by using a food service app to show me pics of my house from Ways, Google Earth and Apple's navigation app. And I'm a fucking NOBODY!!!
It was sick and useless and just left me with a broken heart. I had so many good friends on Twitter I had to stop contacting only because I was afraid these degenerates would do, say or send vile things to them. And for what? For FUCKING WHAT?! Hansen screwed you lot for $25 in Twinkie and Hot Pocket money a show. Pathetic, really.
Oh
next time someone sends your location just say "oh i forgot my exact location on earth for where i live. thanks!"
jokes aside im sorry my gal/guy, dont let it get to you. maybe talk with your friends on other and more private social platforms like discord and such.
We need the release date for the chungus cut
I think it's annoying how every time Chris Hansen talks about a youtuber he always says TH-cam streamer instead of youtuber
Glad you’re back man. Whenever I feel down on myself for not accomplishing specific goals I have set, I sit back and think to myself “it’s alright man at least you’re not Chris Hansen”
Welcome back mr swan
Hello verified
Alright men
Hi Dacept! Do you have any longer docs planned for any time soon? You have a crapton of potential and I would love to see something like 50+ minutes from you!
Late like all my homework assignments
Nope check his community tab.
@@lukehaselman5244 did this video not get released later than intended or what are you trying to say?
Oh god the birds have found each other
I 100% believe onision has groomed his spouse, Sarah and Shiloh. But the evidence and cooperation of the victims with the police just isn't there so he cannot be jailed for his crimes. Sad case that men like him can take advantage of minors and get away with it.
I thought several had talked to law enforcement before?
You just jealous 😜
Can still hope Sara wins her civil suit, bankrupts that a-hole, and people stop feeding that tool the attention. So he can be poor and angry with nothing but his spouse left to listen to his tantrums.
@@zacharypayne4080grow up
19:52 THIS IS SO FUNNNY, WHY WAS THIS JUST GLOSSED OVER
I'm dying at the thought of Hansens reaction to this!
Hahahah Nick DeOrio made a great video on it th-cam.com/video/ocXRL2gcCTo/w-d-xo.html
considering he was in direct correspondence with someone who was doxxing girls i don't think he'd care much
Glad you’re back John! I love how you weave your deep dives into topics together. I feel like Hansen could not fathom the difference between cable tv and internet audiences. The generation gap too. As the social media generation, we are far more skeptical. It paid off big in this case. Hansen is a sanctimonious, scumbag philanderer. Not a hero. The end.
Overall great video John
All that can be really said is Chris Hansen is nothing but a charlatan who wanted to regain the former fame he once had, he didn't care about this case, all he wanted is to be the big star he once was, in the end there was no justice, and Hansen in the end didn't end up like the hero he once was, this time He became the villain.
"you die young enough to be the hero or live long enough to be the villain"
@@MosEisleyCantinaStories exactly
@@miso.soup.. except Chris hansen never did anything. perverted justice actually "caught" the predators and actual charges and jail time over tcap is really not a lot
@@miso.soup..so because they do a good means they can be exonerated from any shitty behavior
Been waiting for this. I really respect your point of view and knowledge, please don't sell yourself out with any more shenanigans bro. Please don't embarrass me for being a fan of yours again. Said respectfully and hopefully constructively.
What did he do? :o I'm Ootl
@@TheAlexR96 As far as I understand, because I wasn’t really looking into the drama when it happened, he admitted to impersonating dream and sending vulgar messages to people but that’s about all I know you can probably look it up there were videos on it I believe
Well put and exactly my own hope. May JS not let us down again; his brilliance is needed, his shenanigans are not.
Anything gained by deception is not worth having. The younger you are when you learn this the better your life is. No exceptions.
@@jenmdawg that last part was spot on.. too bad there are plenty of grown ass people.. well, what I like to call “aged children” who still haven’t caught on to that yet. We’ve all done dumb and ignorant things. Things that we all learned from. If the ignorance continues, you didn’t learn from it no it will always surface eventually. If you did learn from it, your past doesn’t define who you are.
@@LoreleiCatherine Mask is more horrific than anything a person could DM
“there’s a guy who’s been stalking me online and he just showed up at my house” damn that made me spit my bite of popsicle out
"I have no idea if it's true or false"
"He posts controversial videos"
If their brains were any smaller they would be marbles
Only real ones remember the chungus cut.
I also thought too that unfortunately the closest that Onision would get to a courtroom was when he took Repzion along with him...
Imagine the damn stress you would live with hearing that police and FBI are investigating you. Onision probably was all fucked up he's already nuts so I'm sure this wasn't helpful lmao.
Chris is such a liar.
Thanks for coming back John, I really wanted to know more about Chris after watching your old series on him
Lmao@ John doing Hansens work for him and getting it done way faster and more efficient. @Chris Hansen THIS is how you do journalism on TH-cam.
If you look very closely you can See Big Chungus
big chungus in to catch a predator (real)
reddit humor
oh look the "i feel bad for the bla bla situation" guy
I wish he kept the opacity lower
You were milking it. Lol
I appreciate the work you put in to this. I've been out of the loop since Hansen stopped putting out that content. Kind of want all those hours back I spent back then so invested in what was going to be ultimately pointless other than for Hansen and Shiloh's self interests.
This case is a great example of the argument from position of authority fallacy. Hansen knew this would be a big thing for him because of his previous works. He banked on everyone believing him.
Chris looked liked an idiot going to Onisions house. The house and the 911 call only made Onision look and sound “normal” and ordinary.
I understand that this video, and in a large part, most Onision/Chris Hansen videos are focusing on just that. But I do think there should be a bit more light on the police in this situation. It's obvious that there are so many things going on with Onision and the way the police handled it was less than great.
That isn't to say everyone else didn't have a part in it all. The people spamming the police were out of line. Chris Hansen failed at his job and then lied about it. And Onision is Onision.
The whole thing could've been handled better all around
Great follow up video!
Greased up cheeks tho
With Chris Hansen involved in the Dahvie Vanity case now too, I doubt that "investigation" is going to go well either.
I haven't heard anything about it for ages, I think it already failed lmao
This was an absolute BANGER!! Well done
I guess he lived long enough to have become the villain...
The video title implies there ever was an Onision "investigation."
What can you read
Just fine.
@@ImportAustralia are you sure
As the video explains, there absolutely was one. The police just didn’t find evidence of a crime.
@@WildCharger Please fix your joke detector, people. Jesus.
“Yeah, 911? Yeah? Chris Hansen is outside. Can you please send whomever’s job it is to watch him out here to take him home? I think he’s lost.”
“It’s Chris Hansen, oh no, now everyone is gonna know I’m a pervert.”
I was there for the Big Chungus Cut! Great video John Swan, really did an amazing job exposing Hansen and the investigation for what they really were!
People forget that any real crime show is anywhere from hours to several decades consolidated into a half an hour to an hour broadcast.
I've never really respected Chris Hansen. I think about the amount of pedophiles who have gotten away just because he botched their cases, or the way he prioritizes humiliating predators on camera over actually bringing them to justice. He's not really a cop, and it shows.
EDIT: Okay, so, he didn't even actually bring predators to justice, it was mostly staged. Obviously much better.
Actually he has if you look up the cases
But that’s just to much work right
Time-lapse of tweets at 19:18 was very very cool. I've never seen that before. Currently binging John Swan :)
Maybe the real Onision was the Chris Hanson's we made along the way.
Just wanted to say the editing on this video is bloody great, keep it up!
So, I'm so confused. I thought the laptop was never given to the FBI. I thought the laptop was just at Chris' assistants place, and nothing was done with it since he was waiting for directions from Chris. So, the laptop was eventually given to the FBI?
Correct, the laptop was eventually sent to the FBI, but it sat at the assistants house and he even said he was going to copy the hard drive, making it tampering with evidence. So after Sara found out, they sent it back to her and she submitted the laptop to the FBI. I believe this was over 6+ months after she gave the laptop to Hansen.
Lmao repzillons videos on onision always bothered me, not because I liked onision but because it’s like obsessive and weird how many videos he makes like he made videos on him doing things that weren’t even big deals and it just over shadowed all the actual bad shit he did
YES
Same here
*Repzion
It's symbolic that in his old tv show Chris Hanson is always seen standing up , Now he is sitting in every video, telling us he is sitting on something. He seems to be taking a seat himself
That cop made me laugh. He clearly doesn't understand the concept to time - pick a time zone (or even use GMT) and stick to it and you can generate a timeline.
Wow never thought I’d see this guy back right now
ikr he took a phat L
@@crucialaccount who Hanson or swan
@@MosEisleyCantinaStories both
Chris Hansen feeds off of the desire for drama from the social media clones. These are people that love to hear themselves talk and ramble on about social justice issues that they really know nothing about. It's more important to these people to be trendy and sound smart than it is to see the reality of a situation.
Chris Hansen and Anonymous Gene are watching this video rubbing their hands together like Birdman!
damn youtube is hiding this video from me?? glad I found it from someones community post
SUCH A GOOD VIDEO, welcome back John 👍👍
You knocked this out of the park. Very well done! 😊
This is no surprise. The argument this entire time has been have any of us really expected Chris Hansen to be in this for anything but money and fame?
"This person I've never met made a post on Twitter, and I can't stop thinking about it. I'll call 911"
Seems about right.
Great vid as always, John. Keep up the good work.
Chris can't even look at the camera when he says the investigation continues.😑😂
What we needed was Onision and Chris Hansen in the ring
You should have been: "We are deep into the investigation of Chris Hansen" or a variation of it, hahaha.. Man, this was a beautiful series..
Faith in John Swan - starting to get restored..
Imagine if Onision pulled a Boogie and fired a warning shot at Chris Hansen.. That would have been epic..
I think some people forget that Chris Hansen's credentials as a predator catcher have never involved him having to find evidence or to find victims of crimes.
With TCAP, he wasn't going out looking for people who had abused children, gathering evidence and testimony, and bringing them to justice. He (along with Perverted Justice) was essentially creating the evidence from scratch. That's not to defend any of the people caught by his investigations; but it is to say that Hansen's ability to do anything more than interview people who got caught by the net is basically untested - until now, when it's been shown to be pretty lacking).
Hansen was never having to deal with victims refusing to come forward, or victims who might not actually be victims, or the fuzzy edges of the law regarding grooming. On TCAP they made as sure as they could that there wouldn't be any doubt about whether the crime had been committed (although they weren't always successful), but in real life, things are just a lot messier than that. Even then, judges didn't always agree with their methods, and a fair number of people caught by TCAP weren't convicted as a result. I'm also pretty sure that the law that allowed TCAP to use chatlogs that didn't involve any actual minors only applied in some states.
It's pretty easy to assemble a case against someone when you're on the other end of the Internet conversation, purposefully guiding it in that direction because you want to have that evidence. And I think it has presented a misleading sense of how black and white and straightforward any investigation would actually be.
I view him as an actor more than anything else.
Glad to see the views to likes to dislikes are more positive, just after seeing the last ratios I didn't expect this, but I'm happy
Chris Hansen really fell hard from grace and has not yet found a way to recover. Overall a sad story from either angle you look at it.
My father has explained this to me before: the media and the internet can really impact the way that cases such as these go ahead.
People talking about the allegations a lot and sometimes even lying about some things, especially if they start to go viral, impact the public opinion of this person which can get to the justice system and impact them. And sometimes what happens is that the courts will not go ahead with the case because the public has been involve so much with the case that it can impact the opinion and verdict of the justice system, thus they believe they cannot make a fair judgment on the perpetrator and will dismiss the case. It has happened to some predators that have had hard evidence of them being predators, but their cases has been dismissed because of how public expression and viral allegations being spread alongside impactful opinions are seen to be impactful upon the verdicts of the just system.
Chris Hansen has ruined any chance of Onision going to prison. I doubt that Onision will ever go to jail, but this man deserves to suffer in a very special part of hell for groomers and predators.
Thanks for coming back. Glad you didnt come back with some half assed apology video and just went on with good content
he did, on his second channel he made a super cringe empathy video
@@The_greatest_sperg oh gross. Literally just move on. You dont need to address it. Apologize to the guy on twitter. Move on with regular content. Why do we need these fake "uhh im better now that i was caught" videos??
Can’t wait for Chris’s new series investigating TH-cam PsychoBrat John Swan
Very informative and professionally done! Keep up the good work!
Anyone else getting tired of hearing Hansen’s discovery ad repeatedly?? If I could spend the rest of my life without hearing Chris Hansen saying “Onision”..
Up date please!
great video. It's good to see you back and uploading again John Swan
Lawsuit filed against him in New York.
When it comes to people like Chris Hansen they still have not completely realized that the way the news, information gathering & dispersing & the ability to publicly disagree is a VERY different animal than it was when they were in their "heyday". The Onision story is the perfect example of this; Chris Hansen didn't stumble upon this story he took the work of people in the TH-cam community & tried to put his name on it. Then he truly believes that the only information that will not only be believed but available will come from him. In his "world" the only ones that may questions his reporting, his stance & the validity of his words would either be from fringe reporters or an exposé that would come out months maybe years later when the public had already moved on.
So so so many things about this investigation were just bungled. The mass amounts of call to the police & CPS regarding Onision only made law enforcement see it as a joke but the most harm came directly from Hansen.
I hope that every single one of the victims (and yes I 1000% believe these women's stories & allegations) can find peace. And as one survivor to another I would encourage them all to remember that they went from being a "victim" to "victorious" the second they went public and showed that rather poor excuse for human slime that he no longer has control over them. They will succeed / fail, love / hate, win / lose and live with the knowledge that they are stronger than Onision could ever be. They will go on knowing that he has no power because who they are, who they become is not because of this piece of trash & his horrors but in spite of him. Love to the ones to help bring these stories to light with the hope of doing good in this world & love to all the brave survivors out there.
You're giving CH too much credit. If you look through many of the things he's done through sociopathy and narcissism lenses, it lines up fairly well. Way more than just not changing with the times.
Live for these deep dives. Thank you
oh hey its the guy that lied and almost ruined his friends reputations
eyyyyy glad you are back on a regular schedule. I felt bad how things turned out for you in the end even when you were kinda at fault and I understood where you were coming from.
keep it up... will be watching this content that I love
Great video John.
Honestly it was really obvious that Chris was using Onision for views (I didn't even know Chris' whole backstory then, just that he hosted To Catch a Predator), but the 911 call "It's Chris Hansen" never gets old lmao! To be the dispatcher in that moment
it makes me shocked that the victims didn't file any police reports and only Sara spoke to them
This dude does some great videos. Truly one of the best mini documentaries creator on TH-cam. I’d think this guy would have millions of subs.
Glad to see you back bro, if you don't mind me asking what editing programs do you use? I'm trying to get into editing myself
I use Premiere Pro and After Effects :)
@@JohnSwanYT Holy Shit! I didn't think you'd actually respond to this but thanks dude! I really hope to see more content from you in the future :)
Doesn't matter if you think someone is sus or cringe or creepy. If they aren't breaking the law then they aren't breaking the law. That's how laws work. Btw I'm not a fan of Onision.
Totally agree in terms of arrests etc. However there are two other big things to consider. 1, should the law be changed? The internet evolves very quickly and the law is definitely behind the times across the board. 2. Just because it isnt illegal doesnt you mean you cant/shouldnt hate the person. Bullying isnt illegal, but I hate bullies. (Maybe not a great example but you get the point)
Lack of evidence and "not breaking the law" are drastically different things...
Update: Sarah is currently suing him for r*ping her. 😊
It's so sad that Chris' ego got in the way of any chance there may have been at a criminal case against Onision and Kai. Good to see you back at it, Jon. Dont fuck up this time.
Glad your back Jonathan Swanathan. Great work 👍🏻 keep it up.
Amazing video, John! Nice to see that you're still working on repairing your credibility!
Whats even sadder is nobody but Sarah actually worked with the police.
After all that. Telling your story just to give up on finishing the chapter that would close the book....
Wake up babe new John swan video
I learnt one thing...TH-cam is now a dumpster fire of creators. I come to TH-cam for fails, memes and news replays. All these creators dramas and wanna-be cops are cringy af
swan riding that hansen just as hard while staring at him and onision... but don't anyone point that out.
Awesome job Mr Swan. Watched your whole series on this creep. Was surprised you didn’t mention his few episodes he did with “to catch a cheater”. He truly showed his self in those. Especially at the end when he starts hitting on the women, lmao
skip to 21:24 for information john swan hasn't covered already
From the was Hansen says and refers to Social Media, it makes me think that he doesn’t know what it is, how to use the words, and would not be able to describe it
I had to pause the video grab a joint and some snacks for this one
My own grandmother could've told you that, If you cut an Onion, You cry
I think the timing of the release of this video works on so many levels, nice work john
3:12 im sorry but his look matched with his voice will forever throw me off lol