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I hope Sinerium has a good doctor to help him with his back. It must be under a lot of stress from how hard he was carrying.
I work at a chiropractic office: can confirm that carrying a lot will hurt your back.
Eh they stuck to air, had more eco than the entire rest of the team put together when yellow died. Seems more like they had no competition so raced for eco and scathis. They didn't try saving yellow by levelling pond with torps, and yellow tried making their own but wasn't enough.
Some carrying but some greed paying off because of the massive fail to counter scathis and air
yeah... left yellow out in the wind when his base was getting hammered early.. team not so much.. Empiric win yes.
Yellow was basically retarded and they were better off without him.
44:00 it shows up as a suicide, because the explosion of the reactor killed him.
1:08:42 Translation:
Oh Dear
How do I shoot with this thing?
I was flying over the edge attacking Scathis
What in the world was that thing shooting at, instead?
Oh well, time to leave I guess...
Not a single swear word.
Oh dear? I think Damn is a more accurate translation but yeah, no profanity.
Russian? Belarusian? Ukrainian? Kazakh? What language?
@@SupremeRTS Russian.
Always the same story for Joes. Air loss = Game loss. Pros know how to mitigate that by building SAMs everywhere and rebuilding their grid, but joes just get wrecked from air without any counter. And then enders...
I just can't understand how you know how to build up all the way to T4, yet somehow don't know that the game has anti-air units, anti-air turrets, anti-air ships, etc. etc. Hell they didn't even try game enders of their own, or mass nuke subs, or really anything...
Yeah. As soon as I knew adlordy was (badly) outclassed in the air, I knew the game was over. When he couldn't even swat way the cheapie t1 gunships I knew air was completely lost.
@@ArawnOfAnnwn It's always like that with badly played Joe games. The initial domination of the naval area in the middle should have cemented the win. The fact it didn't is astounding. They had a huge economic advantage and still lost. Badly.
Either that or ignoring SMD.
14:15 My money's on Team 1 to the north, because cyan grabbed the middle pond completely uncontested. Sure, yellow has a TON of eco, but how long will he hold onto that once T2 AA missile cruisers start amassing? If it weren't for that massive factor, the match would be a complete tossup.
44:00 Wow. Now I'm thinking it's going to go the other way. Team 1 had nearly uncontested economic and positional superiority for a long time, but they couldn't push the advantage. I saw good teamplay from both sides, so I'm not sure what's going to happen. If Team 1 snipes the Scathis they will win in a landslide with the eco advantage, but if not they'll find themselves worse off than team 2.
58:00 Wow. This did not go at all how I expected it to go. As amazing as the Scathis was, the MVP is how well those gunships and t3 air were used. Sinerium was very careful not to waste his air. He attacked only when he had overwhelming numbers, and spent the rest of the time safely parked in the rear. Very good judgement. Hats off to his teammates, esp ZARDOZ, who bought him enough time to amass that much air.
1:12:00 GG all around. I saw lots of teamplay, lots of persistence against bitter odds, and no whining! These are good chaps.
the only offensive unit that silence of roses even attempted to build was the nuke. Everything else was donated. what a great front line player.
At this level it's understandable to have flawed strategies. He was playing eco when he should have been playing early air drops and navy. It's all part of the learning experience. Playing with a flawed strategy and learning from it.
@@lint8391having a flawed strategy is one thing
not adjusting it when you notice it failing, like in minute 16 is just dumb
@@Xingmey That's the nature of this RTS game. There's so much to think about on a tactical / micro level that it's easy to take the eye off the ball when it comes to strategy.
Plus, beginner players may have started with against the AI games which are OK for learning the basics, but does tend to promote bad sim city type strategies.
As players get more advanced the tactical side should become more automatic, more muscle memory, allowing the mental capital to focus on evolving strategies.
I personally wouldn't criticise any Average Joe or below player for playing with a flawed strategy throughout the battle.
They were weirdly passive. That naval counterpush was super slow as well, they had so much time to build, even a few T2 turrets or TMLs early on would have made a difference, especially considering the shield situation.
They had the game in their hand with that gigantic early mass advantage and they tossed it away without putting up any sort of fight.
One of the biggest noob
34:40 Classic Gyle cant see the giant white dot moving slowly across his screen 🤣
and it was pinge d
I have watched some 200+ casts from Gyle and like 100+ from Willow. Since my memory is bad or something else, I can't really remember the names of players. So, I always pick the South team to win ❤. Always. Sinerium, how can I donate a coffee to you? You was not MVP, you owned this game, you was on point against early aggression, experimentals. Everything. What a come back, or wait - the South was in the driver seat all the time ❤ Thank you for giving me the dub ❤😂
Zardoz was a great movie. One of Sean's best especially if you're stoned!! Thank you for sharing Gyle.
This isn't what I had in mind when I told my younger brother "There's no such thing as real adults, we're all just wingin' it out here man"
I always apply real life strategy here since its my first rts.
Air superiorty and SAMs are key.
Well tbf, i play campaign so the difference is big with little pressure.
but i construct sams like 30 of them (maybe even more) and loads of gatling defense mixed with t2 anti air flak if sams are loading.
UEF
Still have to give Papa some credit for taking the top pond and his aggression into the mid game. Didn't have an answer to that scathis though...
I think game was over as soon as first volley from scathis fired
Man, I would love to see a couple of pro games on this map. Like, a group of eight 1700+ players, just to see what shenanigans they would get up to with this terrain and so many mexes. Even better if it's the same 8 people, just playing it with random teams a few times so they get more used to it and better at it. And they would probably put a stealth'd nuke launcher or artillery on that bottom left island.
At 14 mins when you asked for a prediction I was swaying towards team one for the top pond control. However I, and I am sure team one also, wasn't expecting Sinerium! Well played good sir! I don't expect you shall be a Joe for much longer. Solid team play, and a carry when the poo hit the... er spinny thing. GGwp to all, and a fab cast, as always Gyle o7
he says "shit" then "how to shoot with this thing" "i flying along the edge and use atack scatith"
I had team #1 24 ish minutes in. They took the central pond...never thought they'd drop the ball like that. I was think a few destroyers and tons of cruisers especially with UEF gifted.
This is definitely my second favorite match that I’ve seen you stream, Gyle. Love to see these kinds of matches, and it’s not just entertaining but can show where a lot of weaknesses can occur. Team 1 should’ve by all accounts won but they missed so many chances to shut down the opposition.
i was originally rooting for north team. but after that performance, yea... i respect that guy. he definitely earned this win. very well played.
always love a comeback. they didn't recognise the air superiority issue early enough, and in combination with the scathis they clawed it all back. a big turtle.
Good stuff. Regarding reclaim, there is significantly more than was displayed. On badlands-type maps, those large twig bushes are worth 10-30 a piece, but don't register as normal mass.
"We never say dropped the ball in an average joe game because they struggled to pick it up in the firs place." And I look at my FAF rating and laugh and cry at the same time. The jovial nature (get it?) of these put downs is superlative.
that was a fun game! had a bit of everything and big ups for sinerium, scaled and supported the team so well!
Wow. I was really on the edge of my seat in this one! Usually when I see its a "Joes" game I am a bit sceptical if it will be awesome to watch.
At min 13 when you asked who will win I was 100% sure its team 1, because they had the middle pond and Silence didn't secure the north mass extractors at all.
But man, Sinerium came in and defendet his mates base against ships, agains T3 air - just against anything.
Later on when there was a nuke incoming I was hoping he thougt about anti nuke in his base and yes, he has one. As well as an launcher, as well as his arty. Even T1 point defence.
Very, very good game!
I thought it was over once mid pond was lost then pot pond. But that scathis and air play... wow
This is the absolute best of games. The good guys limited to about 10% of the map and the bad guys looking like they are going to roll bigtime through for a win, and then it all turns around.
Alright, Gyle, you can have my algorithm engagement. As requested, victory prediction. Despite Team 2 having an economic lead, I suspect Team 1 to capitalise on their naval advantage. Team 2 will be unable to dislodge them and waste so much mass trying, while slowly having their bases ground down from repeated long range naval assaults and Salems walking on land.
Such a gripping game. Great spectating.
Loved this game.
One thing with the title. If Gyle calls it an epic its almost always one team dominating than loses the game. Because of the title i knew the top team wouldn't win even though they had such a lead.
1:08:40 - That word is not a swear it is "blin", it literally translates as pancake, which is their replacement for a swear, like how we might say sugar or fudge instead of their respective swears.
We will be watching your progress... Sinerium... with Great Interest....
14 min prediction - gotta say team 1, with that mid lake grab they took the strongest position
I've just added Zardoz to my Cinema Paradiso Blu-ray rental queue. Thanks for the heads up on this film. Post-Bond Connery in a mankini. What's not to like? 😁
".... is going Cybran, bless him......" gets me every time xD
When you struggled to pronounce 'indomitable', that was when you earned my Like.
Just kidding! I had to go search to make sure it was a real word and not a construct of my delusions haha! Anyways, it's been a while since I've been on this channel, I'm glad to see(hear?) you in good health.
Seeds of a big bush that fell of and hit the ground can explode! It sound s like a new year's eve banger. Now you know at least one thing in nature that makes sounds :D (sry for my garbage english)
This was a very exciting game, thoroughly enjoyed it.
Indomitable is a word, yes, and it means what you thought it meant.
This map looks like a pelvis and I can't unsee it.
One of the two teams won the game!
The comeback was real
Gyle breaking out the vintage terms with wonga, didn't slip by me :P
Best use of a Scathis I've ever seen.
red with the scathis like im not locked in here with you, youre locked in here with me
Indomitable: unbreakable
Sinerium's effort. awesome
Great Average Joe game! Important take away: Ignoring water is damaging. Ignoring air is fatal. :P
The last time I saw Wailers that good they had Bob Marley as a front man.
I'm sure it's a bug, but I'm quite enjoying the lack of "experimental complete" notifications
The amount of poor tactical choices in this game was honestly impressive. Poor nuke tasking, nukes sat in silos, no reclamation of mass points via T1 engy spam... no proper reclaim or re-expansion in the end game. I dunno what Silence of Roses was doing either. Did he produce a single attack this game? Literally afk I swear. What a weird game :D
I was routing for team 1 because of top pond but when the scathes popped up I was like ok this will be interesting. Then they just kept hurling 3 monkey lords and I was like your donating mass at this point
14'23" calling team 1 because they're in the less favorable position and it's always a comeback with gyle
Great game, love those comebacks.
I was going to say you can't win with just a scathis, you need something more like a yolona or paragon, but I guess these average joes couldn't deal with the gunships. I had a similar thing happen to me once. The enemy built a whole bunch of restorers and I couldn't deal with them. I had asf but I severely underestimated how strong aa the restorers had. The enemy wiped out 3 of my team mates before I was able to nuke his base and regain air control and win the game. It was pure luck that he went for my team mates before me, because I was the only one who had a hope of destroying him.
that was a great 4v3. i didn't know 0 elo is a thing until i saw this vid
I suck at this game, but it sure is fun to watch.
I dabbled in multiplayer/FaF a little bit but got super wrecked as a newbie both game-wise and by text from my "team"mates so after a few games I went back to singleplayer. But the casts are super entertaining!
Thank you!
Gyle doesn't see the monkey lord in the middle of the screen, classic.
Classic Gyle. Watched it anyway (just kidding Gyle)
Wish i could play it properly online. I tried to install the steam version and FAF but it messed with my current GOG instalation because of the user folder shared files.
@14:30 I am with the underdog team 1 win
I mean they are pros to me, I am still getting through all the campaign missions and rank 0. and had to cheat on the Entity mission cuz i just could not see a way to beat it without doing it. attempted many times lol.. my inadequacy
@13:56 -- my money is on Team 2. The mid naval supremacy is a strong play, but I think team 1 sacrificed too much eco to pull it off.
I thought so! Attacking well is a pro level skill, so eco usually carries these games. I think if team 1 had backed off the attacks and invested more in air they could have overtaken (good context for air carriers). Oh well!
Wow, well done Sinerium
This reminded me of the 'pro players don't know how to deal with late game' except these guys aren't pros.
I know I have the advantage of viewing it after the fact, but I think the only thing novel that was used against the scathis were the nuke subs, everything else was pretty much 'lets just repeat the attack which didn't get close each of the last 6 times we tried it.'
36:15 wtf happened to those jesters? they look like they're hovering in formation but refuse to attack.
Bug/Nerf since the new update, too many gunships in a group mean some will stay out of range, it's really annoying unless you're prepared.
That was frustrating to watch just as a spectator, can't imagine being the player
satelite was over the base and he moved it away. Than didn´t react on first scathis wave... damn.
Venus Flytraps.
They keep singing about being fed more people.
This is game of the year.
Those 3 battleships on the bottom ... I was just waiting for them to unload the full clips of nukes but no :(
Missed you yesterday gyle. Was waiting for epic shadowheart playthrough
Got 'assigned' bottom team by my child who likes to pick the winning team and give me the losing one. How the tables have turned, my little spawn! Great overall match.
this comment is for algo gods, remember to like the video, or algo gods maybe dont suggest you Gyle!
I see a mommy lobster holding hands with baby lobster
MADE MY NIGHT GYLE
Going to be rooting for team 1 at 14:14 despite their dubious economic situation I think they'll finally wake up and do something (maybe)
Entertaining match, love the joes. Team 1 did wake up but then fell right back asleep lol
Team 1: 14 min 15 seconds is my guys :)
Shoulda built a crapload of nuke subs, once they realised the battleships didnt have the range and then launched a bunch of nukes at once to overwhelm the smds.
14:00 in I predict north team will will.
14:15 I'm saying Team 2 going to win; this naval attack and the econ advantage is gonna pull through. Worried about Zardos 2v1 on that side but with Choco going for T3 and solid navy to back em up maybe.
Not sure what Team 1's play is. Papa's Navy in the middle with some air could do some work. But we'll see.
Haven't played SupCom online since the 360 days. So we'll see how this prediction goes.
SPOILERS: So watched the whole game now and not really sure.
My boy Zardos came through, played really well buying time for Sin to tech and helping Choco. Really unlucky not getting that early kill with the subs; a couple of torp bmbers from Sin could have sealed the deal right there.
Silence of Roses expanded too fast and couldn't hold it all; would have been interesting had he gone into the top right corner under, given that Sin had total air control would have kept him safe from the Lake Fleet.
Team 1; Papa's really pulling his team forward that attack on Roses and Zardos was really good. But too much investment in Navy and couldn't get Sin's base from there. Way too much put into the navy game. Opening up Zardo's base with no follow up ground attack was a real problem.
Kinda glad I was right, but not for the reasons I was expecting.
15 mins in and I'm calling that lack of early navy for bottom team being a nail in the coffin.
I'm gonna go team 1 but I need to see that advantage in the middle lake being exploited like you said #13:35
15:00 team 1 , better offensive.
37:03 Surely team 1 wins
crazy comeback
1:02:00 guessing they got a rule against tele sniping. cause at this point its the only way out i can see
a gen map with water. once in a lifetime game
The blue team just didn't employ any correct strategy since the middle of the match... They could easily won if they just push the experimentals with extensive mobile AA protection, or build ASF from aircraft carriers...
Yeah, adlordy badly shit the bed for his team and got wiped from the sky. Game was over once that happened.
14:10, i think team 1 will win, they got center, and also recovered south west.
Timestamp 14:40... definitely team 2 gonna win, they are too far ahead to lose.
14:12 Team 1 has a nice position, but gotta bet on Team 2 winning.
I have never seen a game thrown so hard. How do you see you don't have air advantage and just adamantly REFUSE to build any AA??? Cruisers, SAMs, the T3 land AA units. ExoD started building AA units wayyyy too late and not nearly enough of them. I can't even give the benefit of the doubt of having hindsight, it was CLEAR the air was their main problem yet they made practically no attempt to counter it. Props to teams 2 for the comeback, but it should be noted that was mostly due to Team 1 being super dense and making no attempt to stop what they were obviously doing.
Sinerium playing a campaign mission
Good Good game
Obviously Sinnerium is MVP, but I'd give a *lot* of credit to Zardos not giving up until the very end. most people would just leave way before that and i hate those guys. Also, how the heck is Roses nearly 1300? he missed the navy, didn't build t2 arty, didn't defend the plateau or even put a t1 factory down on it, built a nuke launcher within easy reach of the enemy ships.
Nice twist, I thought team 1 would win.
Team 2, yellow is my favorite color
Well, my pick was picky at certain times, but I have a feeling for things and team 2 confirmed my superstition for the time being.
Team 1. Minute 14🎉
13:30 Team 2
Would have loved to know the total kill number on the scathis. Nice game!
Awesome game