Very nice cutaway. I think you dealt with the problem well. You tried to remedy the situation, and when you found that the problem got worse, you acted quickly and executed your EP's in a quick, stable manner. You were on the ball and aware throughout. It's very easy to sit here as an armchair skydiver and tell you 'everything you could have done better' but I applaud you for being calm and dealing with the malfunction well. I think this video is a good example to show to other skydivers.
I disagree completely.. from the moment it came out of the bag it was an apparent cutaway. It was packed wrong. There was nothing able to be done about it. Grabbing the crossed over line was worthless and also put the jumper into a hard spin by pulling the risers together. It didn't have to be su h an ugly cutaway. I guess your slower version of seeing things makes it seem nice to you. Get more than. 300 jumps and a few years in the sport.....or better yet be a pro since 2000...I just might see more than the normal pull and pray jumper. That is my assessment after watching it once. Should of went for handles right away. Fixing a step through in the air isn't working unless he was gonna cut that line
Thanks for the comment. I think that since I had the same exact malfunction on my first chop I knew what to expect. I aslo learned that handles are expensive and not to throw them this time. Chops are not fun and can be scary but at the same time I think that your training definitely takes over
It was just bad packing on my part. My left brake went over my canopy and on to the other side. More than likely this happens when you land and can sometimes get tangled up in the lines. Its an easy to fix and easy to spot malfunction, at the time i did not really know how to spot this type of problem. If you do get your AFF you will spend plenty of time learning about malfunctions also i recommend taking a packing course (something i never did but should have)
It's really weird to go to comment on a video and see you commented on it already almost a year ago. Stupid memory haha. Was this the result of a step through on packing?
Looks like a step through. I literally just had the same thing. It also looks like you might have to say goodbye to that canopy if it lands in all them trees you got around. Good job on staying cool.
Did my first 15000 tandem on Thursday! And starting my solo course soooon! Love it! No other feeling like it. You do know it takes a lot longer to pack that second chute!..bit selfish if you ask me! Lmao ;)
well done, i would of chopped it aswell. last thing you need at 200ft is what happened when you pulled line down, game over then! BUT learning how to pack and how to check lines when packing would of avoided this. Blue skies :-)
A lot of times it is a question of your packing habits. It's more operator error than equipment failure. When you get in a hurry and pack sloppy, it's more likely to happen. You are correct in that if the reserve didn't function properly, it would not have ended happily.
I borrowed a rig (= borrowed pack job) and opened up with this same line issue. Your natural reaction is always to pull it down to see if anything can be done. Mine was a little more stable but I didn't like how it was flying and we had some turbulent winds on the ground that day say I decided to chop it. Trust your reserve.
This makes me less nervous about cutaways. You seemed to keep your composure well. I have only skydived once and for some reason im much more nervous for the second jump. You just cant comprehend the intensity before you do it.
remember emergency procedures ! first scream OH FUCK then cut away scream fuck again then ride the reserve with a follow up fuck , when you hit the ground then one final fuck lmao
I see discussion on cutaway and altitude etc. Minor malfunctions maintain to be so untill the point of 2000 ft. Any malfunction under 2000 ft. Like, a twist without spin for example. There are exceptions though. If for some reason your toggles don't react aswell as they normally do but your canopy is fully deployed with no spinning, or twisting, then there is no risk for any problems below 2000 ft, except maybe a comfortable landing. And may it be the case you have a big malfunction and you check your altimeter and for some reason you are below 1000ft. No more cut away, just pull the reserve along. This is what I learned in ground school.
Definitely made the right call chopping it...slider could have came down a couple hundred feet..anything could have happened..nice work..just pack better👌
You handled it efficiently but I think you might have cut the offending left steering line first. Good chance all would have been fine for this initially slow speed malfunction. Always carry a hook knife. Oh, and take a packing course :)
There seem to be an awful lot of TH-cam videos of line twists and malfunctions of squares...I only jumped a square twice (no problems), but I only had one malfunction and cutaway with my PC when I speed- packed it to hurry and make a lift...what's up with these squares?
Wow Your dropzone is completely surrounded by trees and it looks like there's almost no outs in less you're a highly skilled skydiver and you can land in a small area.
Nice cutaway, great job nailed it! Im still a student myself t have been taught that if the chute isn't flyable then cutaway. Tree landing doesn't look like any fun.
as an older skydiver, i have to say, rounds left little doubt about when to cut away. (mae wests even) I see so many videos of square cutaways (i jumped early squares and triangles but they always opened, albeit trashy) that I would have to have training to know this should be cut away. the idea of a square reserve was coming into vogue as i left the sport and seemed such an anathema to us that even now it freaks me out.
Shit-Who the hell spotted that jump? A blind person? Good cut away-Those lines looked nasty. Also, pay attention to the wind indicators after you open. Blue Skies!
Sadly packing courses are rare at german dropzones. Never got one and my first jumps with the self packed student chute where freaked me out. I knew i got everything right but i was always nervous jumping it.
Just go to your local drop zone and talk with them when you turn 18. They will provide everything you need to get certified. look online at your local dropzones website and they will have more info on prices for classes. look under AFF. I paid $1400 to get all the classes and coaching (3 tandems, 5 coaching solos and all the ground school). It's expensive at first but gets cheaper later on. also check out Dropzone.com
I am not a skydiver please excuse my ignorance but how many sec between cutting away and releasing the reserve in this case and altitude. It seems Thanks
Usually about 1 second. The reserve takes a couple of seconds to fully deploy and inflate, as you can see in the video. Some situations result in a longer time between cutaway and reserve deployment, if the jumper wants more separation.
Looks like it was totally preventable. It looks like it was packed that way. Please walk your brake lines to the tail. Should be thousands of jumps between malfunctions. Little zippy canopies are less forgiving.
Funny how F111 compares to zepo when it comes to deflating the canopy after landing. Your reserve is drop-dead behind you in less then a second it seems. Or were you downwind there?
Yep. You also lose a piece called the D-bag when the reserve comes out that isn't as easy to find. That's why you hope someone was looking out for you.
Unless things have changed I believe you can make your first jump at 16 with parents permission and a waiver George,. I did. Of course that was around 1974, if I remember correctly.
Did I read that correct that you packed your own chute without having done a packing course? "It was just bad packing on my part. My left brake went over my canopy and on to the other side. More than likely this happens when you land and can sometimes get tangled up in the lines. Its an easy to fix and easy to spot malfunction, at the time i did not really know how to spot this type of problem. If you do get your AFF you will spend plenty of time learning about malfunctions also i recommend taking a packing course (something i never did but should have)" If so...wow
cupcakefreak11 No in the video you can see the line tangled is becoming downplane which will cause you to spin in the air.. low speed becomes high speed malfunction. So the right thing to do is to immediately cut-away and deploy your reserve
The hell with that shit... Cut away, open your reserve... Have it repacked, and you're jumping again in no time... Of course that if you use F111, 7 cell canopies, precision or big canopies, you can safely do a PLF if it's flying leveled... But you're risking yourself of having a sprained ankle, or even risk breaking a few bones on most canopies in a normal wing load... Should you hit the ground hard enough to sprain your ankle... You would've thought 'Why didn't I cut away and safely land my reserve...' for a few weeks of being grounded... Machos who don't cut away aren't better than someone who sees a malfunction and cuts away in no time...
John Dekowski yes indeed. honestly, i had to view the video again and read my previous comment. I forgot about it. I don't know if I was replying to someone else's comment. Now, regarding to the video... I would've chopped it sooner. You can see from the begging that you're not going to be able to fix it. Cheers!
That depends. If it's not opening, looks bad or is spinning, just chop it. If it's stable, then look at your altimeter. If you're above two grand you have a little time to mess with it. But if you're down to two grand, chop it.
i have a question if you don't mind me asking. I am 15 but when i turn 18 i am going to try to get a license to skydive. do you know what requirements and what classes you must take in order to get a license and also how much do the classes cost. thank you for your time.
Yeah depending on where it landed. As far as use many times you can depending on how bad is it. They usually stay in the sky and have a relative slow descent.
@@montiro8999 wow, 7 years later and we end up both online on TH-cam at the same time. You to answer my ancient question, and me to appreciate your answer
@@Fumas12 he actually found it after 4 hours in tree apparently which he wrote in another comment, but the entanglement was all his fault and he definitely deserve to lose his equipment for doing a bad packing job.
This is clearly a packing error. I am surprised that this is not something you have been teached...if this is the case then this is a grave mistake from your instructors...
Hmm, how common is this? I thought it was very unlikely to happen, but i've seen it in quite a lot of videos. How scary is this? I mean you consider your self lucky or it's a thing that happens to pretty much every skydiver at least once. It seems to me that if the 2nd canopy would not have opened, you would have crashed...
This is a completely preventable malfunction. All you have to do is run a line check with the four outside lines on the canopy. You should also be able to run the slider up & down the lines. That's all it takes, whether you or someone else does the packing. But do it yourself first ; do your line check, set your brakes, make sure your slider's open and cock your pilot chute. Every time.
dochayes1 = My Point Exactly!!! If he hadn't messed with his slider, and lines his canopy would have been safe to land as was. For all you new, young skydivers... I learned to jump as a student without an RSL or AAD!!! Rule of malfunctions... Better to land with what you got than what you haven't got. (That refers to lo pulls mainly). Nevertheless, people cut away today for too many paranoid reasons, like line twists!!! For everyone out there, Including Performance Designs.......... Stowing Brakes IS NOT, for Soft openings!!!!! Stowing Brakes are for 2 reasons! And neither has to do with causing or preventing malfunctions at deployment. 1) = In case a skydiver opens face-to-face with another jumper, at half brakes she has more time to pull the right riser to avoid a collision. 2) if the jumper opens unconsciousness or with line twists = cannot steer the canopy! Then the canopy AT LEAST flies at 1/2 velocity, given zero winds... So the jumper can land safely with a PLF! At this Jumper's Video in question: What I was stating is: That if he had simply left the Canopy as was, he could have landed it safely with a PLF!!!! Are all of you who keep replying to my advice, that naive or obtuse actually believe that No One has ever died from a Cut-Away???? or from a Reserve Malfunction???? News Flash commenter's! Nothing in Skydiving or Life guarantees absolutely Safety! Especially a Reserve Canopy! I have been in the sport for 31 years now! And have only ever gotten injured from Skydiving at TSC in Japan twice (on my knees and pelvis / hip ) due to avoiding immature and in-properly trained Japanese skydivers, who frequently make bad decisions such as Gauntlets and panic attacks at final, causing me to veer off and hard landing to avoid a life threatening injury for both of us. However, with regards to Malfunctions.... I only have had 1 cut away, without a Steven's Lanyard, (RSL) in 1989 due to an FXC Fire and double deployment with Round Phantom Reserve!!! All other Malfunctions, including ruptured steering lines, I have never gotten injured at landing nor freaked out and went right away into a cut away!!! Also, the ONLY PURPOSE of All Canopies is to: Provide Drag to slow down your descent and soften your landing! That's all. In this Video, His Canopy, was Providing Drag, Lift, 1/2 Brakes, And Was Fully Deployed and Flying Straight! For all You "instant cut away supporters" who don't believe me: Try Joining the US Army Airborne Infantry!!! There they all Jump with the SAME SIZE CANOPIES, regardless of Body Weight, and Carry at least an extra 160 pounds worth of Gear.... And guess what? They cannot Steer or Swoop, Slow-down or land their canopies softly, and Always land at an Angle, mostly sideways or backwards!!!! Especially the F1-11 Dash 1, and T-10 Canopies, that I jumped for almost 20 years!!!! PLF's Can save lives!!!! Try it some time!!!! Safety overrides your pride! And it's always better to land, with grass and dirt stains on your gear, than blood stains!!! Golden Knights!
Who packed the parachute...you or a packer? I think I know the answer to that question. Either learn to pack a parachute correctly or always hire a packer.
Cut away done perfectly! Pack job totally opposite ;)
Very nice cutaway. I think you dealt with the problem well. You tried to remedy the situation, and when you found that the problem got worse, you acted quickly and executed your EP's in a quick, stable manner. You were on the ball and aware throughout. It's very easy to sit here as an armchair skydiver and tell you 'everything you could have done better' but I applaud you for being calm and dealing with the malfunction well. I think this video is a good example to show to other skydivers.
I disagree completely.. from the moment it came out of the bag it was an apparent cutaway. It was packed wrong. There was nothing able to be done about it. Grabbing the crossed over line was worthless and also put the jumper into a hard spin by pulling the risers together.
It didn't have to be su h an ugly cutaway.
I guess your slower version of seeing things makes it seem nice to you. Get more than. 300 jumps and a few years in the sport.....or better yet be a pro since 2000...I just might see more than the normal pull and pray jumper.
That is my assessment after watching it once. Should of went for handles right away. Fixing a step through in the air isn't working unless he was gonna cut that line
HOLY SHIT. How does it feel to have the worst feeling of your life and best feeling of your life within seconds of each other hahaha
Wilderness Medic haha yeah that’s why skydiving is amazing.
Thanks for the comment. I think that since I had the same exact malfunction on my first chop I knew what to expect. I aslo learned that handles are expensive and not to throw them this time. Chops are not fun and can be scary but at the same time I think that your training definitely takes over
It was just bad packing on my part. My left brake went over my canopy and on to the other side. More than likely this happens when you land and can sometimes get tangled up in the lines. Its an easy to fix and easy to spot malfunction, at the time i did not really know how to spot this type of problem. If you do get your AFF you will spend plenty of time learning about malfunctions also i recommend taking a packing course (something i never did but should have)
And this is why you always walk the lines...
4 line check , saves more than money for reseve repacks !
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Nicely done. So important to always allow some altitude for possible malfunctions. Altitude provides time to deal with failures. Blue skies.
It's really weird to go to comment on a video and see you commented on it already almost a year ago. Stupid memory haha. Was this the result of a step through on packing?
hahaha
I did the same with a 7 year gap. I had Answered the question i was about to ask. Freaked me right out
It's even weirder to see my like for your comment, when I thought I never saw this video. Stupid memory, haha :)
Even weirder thing is this just happened with this comment right here.
Looks like a step through. I literally just had the same thing. It also looks like you might have to say goodbye to that canopy if it lands in all them trees you got around. Good job on staying cool.
Did my first 15000 tandem on Thursday! And starting my solo course soooon! Love it! No other feeling like it. You do know it takes a lot longer to pack that second chute!..bit selfish if you ask me! Lmao ;)
15,000 tandem jumps?
@@Kwisatz_HaderachXIII 15000 feet. it’s a common height for first tandem jumps
Scares me just watching, well done that man!!!
Good Lord your second cut away!!! WTF!!! I've been skydiving for over 30yrs and still not 1 cut away!!!! It's double, triple checking everything!!!!
These are the comments that make me more comfortable with beginning to get my license.
same haha
lighter Makes sense why would play Russian roulette with your life?
On the other hand, I had a cutaway on my 8th jump 😅
lighter I’ve got a friend who has 5,000 and never had a cutaway. I had my one and only about my 30th jump.
well done, i would of chopped it aswell. last thing you need at 200ft is what happened when you pulled line down, game over then! BUT learning how to pack and how to check lines when packing would of avoided this. Blue skies :-)
A lot of times it is a question of your packing habits. It's more operator error than equipment failure. When you get in a hurry and pack sloppy, it's more likely to happen. You are correct in that if the reserve didn't function properly, it would not have ended happily.
Glad you came in safe! Blue skies!
I borrowed a rig (= borrowed pack job) and opened up with this same line issue. Your natural reaction is always to pull it down to see if anything can be done. Mine was a little more stable but I didn't like how it was flying and we had some turbulent winds on the ground that day say I decided to chop it. Trust your reserve.
Yes, I had to pull this one out of a tree. Once you get the lines all straightened out it is easy to put back together. The canopy's are not cheap!
This makes me less nervous about cutaways. You seemed to keep your composure well. I have only skydived once and for some reason im much more nervous for the second jump. You just cant comprehend the intensity before you do it.
remember emergency procedures ! first scream OH FUCK then cut away scream fuck again then ride the reserve with a follow up fuck , when you hit the ground then one final fuck lmao
The first thing I did upon landing was to call my rigger & thank her.
Good job on keeping your handles.
saying f--k always helps. The international phrase.
I see discussion on cutaway and altitude etc. Minor malfunctions maintain to be so untill the point of 2000 ft. Any malfunction under 2000 ft. Like, a twist without spin for example. There are exceptions though. If for some reason your toggles don't react aswell as they normally do but your canopy is fully deployed with no spinning, or twisting, then there is no risk for any problems below 2000 ft, except maybe a comfortable landing. And may it be the case you have a big malfunction and you check your altimeter and for some reason you are below 1000ft. No more cut away, just pull the reserve along.
This is what I learned in ground school.
Definitely made the right call chopping it...slider could have came down a couple hundred feet..anything could have happened..nice work..just pack better👌
Well done. Glad you didn't forget to include obscenities first...part of proper IE.😊
You handled it efficiently but I think you might have cut the offending left steering line first. Good chance all would have been fine for this initially slow speed malfunction. Always carry a hook knife.
Oh, and take a packing course :)
Excellent response to a line over.
Second cutaway in how many jumps? Please thanks for the video, good job
i think that was around jump 130
Devin Murray Which means you still shouldn't be using a camera (according to regulations) ;-)
Thanks
+FREEDOM-VET You're both right, most drop-zones actually have a 100 jump rule.
+Jon Thorvaldsson what if you attach a camera to your foot ?
There seem to be an awful lot of TH-cam videos of line twists and malfunctions of squares...I only jumped a square twice (no problems), but I only had one malfunction and cutaway with my PC when I speed- packed it to hurry and make a lift...what's up with these squares?
Textbook cutaway good job
Wow Your dropzone is completely surrounded by trees and it looks like there's almost no outs in less you're a highly skilled skydiver and you can land in a small area.
Quick thinking nice save
Nice cutaway, great job nailed it! Im still a student myself t have been taught that if the chute isn't flyable then cutaway. Tree landing doesn't look like any fun.
as an older skydiver, i have to say, rounds left little doubt about when to cut away. (mae wests even) I see so many videos of square cutaways (i jumped early squares and triangles but they always opened, albeit trashy) that I would have to have training to know this should be cut away. the idea of a square reserve was coming into vogue as i left the sport and seemed such an anathema to us that even now it freaks me out.
Shit-Who the hell spotted that jump? A blind person? Good cut away-Those lines looked nasty. Also, pay attention to the wind indicators after you open. Blue Skies!
the legend is that canopy is still in a tree somewhere and it a STILL has a step through
Still actually safer than a motorcycle.
Sadly packing courses are rare at german dropzones. Never got one and my first jumps with the self packed student chute where freaked me out. I knew i got everything right but i was always nervous jumping it.
Just go to your local drop zone and talk with them when you turn 18. They will provide everything you need to get certified. look online at your local dropzones website and they will have more info on prices for classes. look under AFF. I paid $1400 to get all the classes and coaching (3 tandems, 5 coaching solos and all the ground school). It's expensive at first but gets cheaper later on. also check out Dropzone.com
I am not a skydiver please excuse my ignorance but how many sec between cutting away and releasing the reserve in this case and altitude. It seems Thanks
Usually about 1 second. The reserve takes a couple of seconds to fully deploy and inflate, as you can see in the video. Some situations result in a longer time between cutaway and reserve deployment, if the jumper wants more separation.
When you cut your lines where does the other chute go?
I agree. I wouldn't want to be in the same situation.
Looks like it was totally preventable. It looks like it was packed that way.
Please walk your brake lines to the tail. Should be thousands of jumps between malfunctions. Little zippy canopies are less forgiving.
Funny how F111 compares to zepo when it comes to deflating the canopy after landing.
Your reserve is drop-dead behind you in less then a second it seems. Or were you downwind there?
Did you have an RSL or MARD? Seemed like quite a long time between main cutaway and reserve inflation
how much dose it cost u when u do that I know the parachute cost a lot? do u recover it later ?
I know maybe dumb but why cant anyone say they got back the main? I feel like its a incomplete story.
Glad you cam back to DZ haha. Did you foumd your main in all this trees?
If you toss the handles, does it still cost you a case of beer? Like in the "old days?"
Good job! B-6370 & N-6395T
Hey. Can I use this video for educational purpose on FB? I'll link up your youtube channel. ;)
Skydive Vibes go for it
Yep. You also lose a piece called the D-bag when the reserve comes out that isn't as easy to find. That's why you hope someone was looking out for you.
Perfect ! Well done
I don't know much about skydiving, but do you re use your parachutes?
Why did your main canopy have RED toggles on it??? I would guess it was lack of detail, same as the pack job.
Why it shouldn't? Mine are red, too. It depends on the manufacturer and some allow to choose between different colors.
Unless things have changed I believe you can make your first jump at 16 with parents permission and a waiver George,. I did. Of course that was around 1974, if I remember correctly.
Did I read that correct that you packed your own chute without having done a packing course?
"It was just bad packing on my part. My left brake went over my canopy and on to the other side. More than likely this happens when you land and can sometimes get tangled up in the lines. Its an easy to fix and easy to spot malfunction, at the time i did not really know how to spot this type of problem. If you do get your AFF you will spend plenty of time learning about malfunctions also i recommend taking a packing course (something i never did but should have)"
If so...wow
A lot of the time someone at the dz will show a person if they ask.
+Carl Bell That's what packing manuals are for.
I can imagine there was quite a high pucker factor on that one.
did you get your canopy back??? they are so expensive!
Is it actually possible to land safely with that malfunction (in case it's not rotating) or do you always have to cut it away?
cupcakefreak11 No in the video you can see the line tangled is becoming downplane which will cause you to spin in the air.. low speed becomes high speed malfunction. So the right thing to do is to immediately cut-away and deploy your reserve
The hell with that shit... Cut away, open your reserve... Have it repacked, and you're jumping again in no time...
Of course that if you use F111, 7 cell canopies, precision or big canopies, you can safely do a PLF if it's flying leveled... But you're risking yourself of having a sprained ankle, or even risk breaking a few bones on most canopies in a normal wing load...
Should you hit the ground hard enough to sprain your ankle... You would've thought 'Why didn't I cut away and safely land my reserve...' for a few weeks of being grounded...
Machos who don't cut away aren't better than someone who sees a malfunction and cuts away in no time...
John Dekowski yes indeed. honestly, i had to view the video again and read my previous comment. I forgot about it.
I don't know if I was replying to someone else's comment. Now, regarding to the video... I would've chopped it sooner. You can see from the begging that you're not going to be able to fix it.
Cheers!
I've read that the rule of thumb is that you need to cut away if you can't fix the main chute in five seconds.
That depends. If it's not opening, looks bad or is spinning, just chop it. If it's stable, then look at your altimeter. If you're above two grand you have a little time to mess with it. But if you're down to two grand, chop it.
Instabil Jump...you got your canopy back?
Who lined this canopy?
i have a question if you don't mind me asking. I am 15 but when i turn 18 i am going to try to get a license to skydive. do you know what requirements and what classes you must take in order to get a license and also how much do the classes cost. thank you for your time.
fortunately are the packers at my dropzone very friendly and helpful so that they teach it to the new students :) I also can not explain anyway
good job good save. nothing else to do.. find that packer and say hi from me.
Crazy stuff man
im a not skydiver wanting to do it, how does this malfunction actually happen ive seen it in a few videos
Wouldn't have even tried to fight it cutaway straight away 👍
Will James cut-away immediately is always a good choice!!
Holy fucker crap! Intense! Fucks were there, not surprised.
How many skydives have you had in total?
lots of trees around this DZ !
Knowing that they are rare, you should make an effort to change it. Take young jumpers under your wing and make sure they understand proper packing.
World's best place to skydive
But did you get your chute back?
Всё правильно сделал.
Skip to 3:22 to see anything worth watching. Once there it was good.
Velocity096 i
I've landed a couple step throughs in my time.
well done, man!
Good choice of language at the cut away! Hahaha. You should rate your video at the PG-13.
your hard deck is 2000ft?
I don't mean to be snooty but as a paraglider this does not look bad at all
what is LEGO?
good EP work :)
Sweet pack job. I'd hate to cutaway at that DZ. All your gear will be in the top of pines!
Do you guys retrieve the cut away parachute? And reuse it.
Yeah depending on where it landed. As far as use many times you can depending on how bad is it. They usually stay in the sky and have a relative slow descent.
He is jumping over a forest. Chances of seeing that canopy again is very slim.
Bernard van Biljon That sucks if they're $$$
So you land in a clear area close to where it's going to land and then find it. Main canopies are well over $2000.00. You at least try to find it.
bet you were scared but i no nothing bout skydiving i give it a A+ good job saving yo life boi
What exactly happens to your main after you cut it off? It just falls down and you have to search for it?
yeah but unluckily that you will ever find in it in any tree top. Expensive reminder that this guy deserved.
@@montiro8999 wow, 7 years later and we end up both online on TH-cam at the same time. You to answer my ancient question, and me to appreciate your answer
@@Fumas12 he actually found it after 4 hours in tree apparently which he wrote in another comment, but the entanglement was all his fault and he definitely deserve to lose his equipment for doing a bad packing job.
@@Fumas12 :D i quite often do this but most accounts are dead by then.
This is clearly a packing error. I am surprised that this is not something you have been teached...if this is the case then this is a grave mistake from your instructors...
I've seen a brake line step through landed. (at SNE last month) Chopping it is probably a better Idea.
I've seen people land all kinds of hairy shit, usually with a big thump. Some walk away, some don't. The reserve is there for a reason, use it.
nice !
I don't know how u ppl even jump there, I see very little outs
Hmm, how common is this? I thought it was very unlikely to happen, but i've seen it in quite a lot of videos.
How scary is this? I mean you consider your self lucky or it's a thing that happens to pretty much every skydiver at least once. It seems to me that if the 2nd canopy would not have opened, you would have crashed...
This is a completely preventable malfunction. All you have to do is run a line check with the four outside lines on the canopy. You should also be able to run the slider up & down the lines. That's all it takes, whether you or someone else does the packing. But do it yourself first ; do your line check, set your brakes, make sure your slider's open and cock your pilot chute. Every time.
Line check?
Body position caused this malfuntion.
Did you find your parachute?
Den Konoplin ya. It was up in a tree. Took me about 4 hours to get it down. Not fun
but it is better than to lose it :)
CASE OF BEER!
Ufffff my good! :( final god....
dochayes1 = My Point Exactly!!!
If he hadn't messed with his slider, and lines his canopy would have been safe to land as was. For all you new, young skydivers... I learned to jump as a student without an RSL or AAD!!! Rule of malfunctions... Better to land with what you got than what you haven't got. (That refers to lo pulls mainly).
Nevertheless, people cut away today for too many paranoid reasons, like line twists!!!
For everyone out there, Including Performance Designs.......... Stowing Brakes IS NOT, for Soft openings!!!!! Stowing Brakes are for 2 reasons! And neither has to do with causing or preventing malfunctions at deployment.
1) = In case a skydiver opens face-to-face with another jumper, at half brakes she has more time to pull the right riser to avoid a collision.
2) if the jumper opens unconsciousness or with line twists = cannot steer the canopy! Then the canopy AT LEAST flies at 1/2 velocity, given zero winds... So the jumper can land safely with a PLF!
At this Jumper's Video in question: What I was stating is: That if he had simply left the Canopy as was, he could have landed it safely with a PLF!!!!
Are all of you who keep replying to my advice, that naive or obtuse actually believe that No One has ever died from a Cut-Away???? or from a Reserve Malfunction????
News Flash commenter's! Nothing in Skydiving or Life guarantees absolutely Safety! Especially a Reserve Canopy!
I have been in the sport for 31 years now! And have only ever gotten injured from Skydiving at TSC in Japan twice (on my knees and pelvis / hip ) due to avoiding immature and in-properly trained Japanese skydivers, who frequently make bad decisions such as Gauntlets and panic attacks at final, causing me to veer off and hard landing to avoid a life threatening injury for both of us.
However, with regards to Malfunctions.... I only have had 1 cut away, without a Steven's Lanyard, (RSL) in 1989 due to an FXC Fire and double deployment with Round Phantom Reserve!!!
All other Malfunctions, including ruptured steering lines, I have never gotten injured at landing nor freaked out and went right away into a cut away!!!
Also, the ONLY PURPOSE of All Canopies is to: Provide Drag to slow down your descent and soften your landing! That's all.
In this Video, His Canopy, was Providing Drag, Lift, 1/2 Brakes, And Was Fully Deployed and Flying Straight!
For all You "instant cut away supporters" who don't believe me: Try Joining the US Army Airborne Infantry!!! There they all Jump with the SAME SIZE CANOPIES, regardless of Body Weight, and Carry at least an extra 160 pounds worth of Gear.... And guess what? They cannot Steer or Swoop, Slow-down or land their canopies softly, and Always land at an Angle, mostly sideways or backwards!!!! Especially the F1-11 Dash 1, and T-10 Canopies, that I jumped for almost 20 years!!!!
PLF's Can save lives!!!!
Try it some time!!!!
Safety overrides your pride! And it's always better to land, with grass and dirt stains on your gear, than blood stains!!!
Golden Knights!
There's a reason you're not an instructor...
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who packed you shutes?
Meel maybe himself 🤣🤣
Who packed the parachute...you or a packer? I think I know the answer to that question. Either learn to pack a parachute correctly or always hire a packer.
You could have just cut that line with the hook knife
@cameraflyer saves having the main repaired