I only buy their lotions and sprays. The staff, whenever I go in any of their stores, is super snotty. Overpriced definitely!! I do like their PINK store.
I didn't know the details, other than Reznik's comments. The 2010 problem? Putting a "woman of color" in wild thing" kind of lingerie? i literally didn't see what the problem could be, just looking at her going down the runway looking gorgeous with the men behind her. Then they announced what the supposed problem was. Wtf. You know who notices race first? Racists.
4:32 ok and? If you're going to call out one company for child labor you better get going on making a shit ton of videos bc child laborers are used by almost every single large brand/company in the world!
If only some of the industrial companies in the world could be under this amount of scrutiny imagine what things we would find in their conduct. And now after the company’s inclusion of trans Models, the profits have dropped to an all time low. So maybe the loudest voices aren’t the larger share of the market after all.
When I was a young teenager I was told that I should do modeling because I was tall and quite thin, but my mom said 'No!', and I'm so glad she did! At first I didn't understand why she wouldn't let me, but I do now! She saved me from more than likely being mistreated like these poor women! I hope that no permanent damage has been done in more ways than one!
I have never bought anything from this company and always seen Victoria Secret as one of the worst brands. I was aware of their work practices and how they treat their employees in other countries. Nonetheless, I am against branding all together and only look at quality and necessity of the product. Branding is one of the most toxic "invention" of our century and brings only higher and higher input to falsifying of who we truly are and how we want to be perceived, which in the end builds up only more egoistic society than actually helping people to rise their self esteem in a healthy way.
@@GideonMadu I don't want to go anywhere, silly. I'm just giving feedback in case they want more followers. It's ok to have an opinion, I think first amendment is still in the constitution? With this SCOTUS, who knows.
@@kristn6513 Shitting on someone's voice, something that they have no control over, is anything but a "feedback" lmao It's one thing to have an opinion, but to weaponize it to isnult something someone has as a natural trait is just downright shitty. Not like yours is any better to begin with. Then again, that's coming from a 2020 account.
I am confused... so if you put people in what could be considered ethnic gear... that could be their ethnicity that is an issue, so then you put that ethnic clothing on someone who is not that ethnicity and that is also an issue? So which way is right then?
You must or you would not take the time to watch and comment. Or you like watching scantily clad women, you’ll never get the time of day. “On the border of porn. I know it when I see it.” Former Supreme Court judge.
Thankfully, since Covid, many people have gotten back into making their own clothes. With todays' TH-cam vids, learning this is simplified including upcycling of items etc.
1. Most companies care more for bigger sizes. 2. Most clothing business salvage the inventory of shelves and sell it for no money instead of donating it . Because when they salvage the product they get credit from the manufacturer and then they sell it for something or get tax credit that’s why they never donate or give it all away -$$$$$$ sad but true
The guy called Razek was right about the VS fashion show being portrayed as a dream, and a dream cannot look any less of a dream, so everything was supposed to be perfect: perfect models with perfect skin, beautiful lingerie and costumes plus admired by many music performances of world class stars like Lady Gaga, Maroon 5, Taylor Swift - only to name a few. Being a VS model was a dream of many models and aspiring models in fashion industry - not because ANYONE could get there, but because ONLY A FEW chosen ones could achieve that, it was a really high stake and strict requirements for the girls. I miss those shows, they were like fairy tales, with each one depicting a different theme. About the alleged blast of cultural differences and using the clothing associated with some particular parts of the world or race - I am sure it was not anyone's intention to belittle any culture. People need to understand that it was a fashion show - models were wearing what they were being told to wear. If the fashion show directors believed that the Asian-looking outfit was going to look better on a blonde European-looking model, they chose one of the blonde models to present it. Or maybe even they did it on purpose to show that they respect all the cultures and portray them with equality on different models (Asian, White, Black). And the blast for using the cotton being collected in Africa by kids - that is the peak of hypocrisy! Don't average people know that literally ALL big companies take their fabrics, and materials from the cheapest available sources? And that in MANY parts of the world working children are still unfortunately a "norm"? Do you really think that H&M, Zara, Primark, Mango or other brands CARE and check where their fabrics are supposed to come from? And also do you really think that it was only Victoria's Secret brand that was taking the cotton from this particular cotton field to produce their lingerie out of it? I highly doubt it. With all this fight for equality, inclusiveness and tolerance literally everywhere, people will slowly lose everything that was/is pretty, exclusive, luxurious, dreamy and iconical.
Plus size ladies have Lane Bryant. Skinnys can have their Victoria's Secret. Would you walk into a plus size store and harass them because there is no size 1?? No? Then calm down
I'm not trying to seem rude but there are stores only for xl plus and I believe that xl is big enough and a huge step for certain brands. Its alot of work u have to use more material with thicker straps. They should have increased prices all around if they were gonna increase the price of bras d and above. Seems like a horribly chosen financial choice was made here.
My God I really hate these idiots trying to ruin everything because they aren't happy. I'm not rich so according to them I need to protest rich people.
What's wrong with plus size really predjucie when it comes to women of color and native amercian we have colored women who are Indians too please the industry is wicked anyways F Victoria secret I hate the industry
Thankfully everyone in my entire family threw away every single piece of Victoria’s Secret merchandise in the trash, we all vowed in solidarity to boycott any company that cave’s into woke culture. In our family home we have a gargantuan list on the refrigerator of companies we no longer do business with. Thankfully on the bright side of things, not only do we have boatloads of money before all this, now we spend those boatloads of our hard earned cash on companies that don’t virtue signal. I don’t want politics in my products, and neither should you.
Yup! The left has decided they have to have a voice in every single space. Inclusivity has to wrap it's nasty arms around everything too. I'm a fat woman and I don't want to see fat women on the runway. I don't want to see trans ppl on the runway either bc those are not biological women.
The Victoria Secret designers care only for looks. The fashions are terrible for fitting properly. Even on the runway you can see models in poorly fitting items. You pay for the privilege of wearing the name.
Bigger size, more material! WTF I wouldn't absorb the cost for materials either, you want a bra and you're a bigger size,your going to pay for it! Imagine if all larger women wanted v.s bras,hell they'd go out of business as a result of absorbing material cost. From a business standpoint I get it. That said, I still don't like V S.
For crying out loud! It's just fashion. Here today, gone tomorrow. So a black model wore fake leopardskin outfit and they are all freakin out. Then some white models were slagged off for wearing a Chinese dragon outfit or whatever.. lts pathetic.
🐢 Hooks and eye clasps on old bras can be donated to local wildlife rehabilitators who use them to mend broken shells on turtles that may have been run over by a vehicle 🏥
I didn't know the details, other than Reznik's comments. The 2010 problem? Putting a "woman of color" in wild thing" kind of lingerie? i literally didn't see what the problem could be, just looking at her going down the runway looking gorgeous with the men behind her. Then they announced what the supposed problem was. Wtf. You know who notices race first? Racists. You know who obsesses about race? racists. I literally didn't think anything of her color, seeing her on the runway, it was just beautiful. Cultural appropriation? I will never understand that one. If only the people from a culture Z are allowed to be inspired by culture Z, will this REALLY create a world of "inclusivity" and "diversity", as opposed to hermetically closed off compartments? As a creative person myself, I can imagine feeling inspired by China or Native American culture, and creating something beautiful... to be told this is wrong? wth. If it's beautiful, how can it be wrong??
ONLY FOR A LITTLE WHILE..HE NEVER TECHNICALLY WORKED FOR THE COMPANY!! AND HE CONTINUOUSLY USED THE COMPANY AS A MEANS OF GETTING YOUNGER WOMEN TO COME HOME WITH HIM.. AGAINST WEXNER SPECIFICALLY TELLING HIM NOT TO!! I'VE MET ALL OF THEM BECAUSE I USED TO WORK FOR THE COMPANY.. AND THEY ARE ALL AHOLES!!
Where are the first famous Victoria's Secret models at on this topic? Did they appreciate the life and opportunities that the sacrifices provided? Or just weren't asked? Heidi Klum, Tyra Banks, etc...? Did these same issues not go own then? What about high fashion runway? Was it different? What role did model Agents play in this, I assume these gals had agents? There is much more I would like to know, just wandering why only this company...this group of models...were spotlighted in this video, Grunge? I feel sure that many more than V.S. has had these issues, and why you didn't mention if so or not so. By asking this, I am not defending any actions that were in the wrong, by any people in the wrong. In fact, I feel that to really want and to get changes, that you must act not just in bad times, then forget them in the good times, but when the offenses begin, make a stand, there is always more strength in numbers, right?The sexism in the model/fashion/beauty industry is not a surprise, nor the strict, unrealistic standards of image, because these girls are known by the world as not your ordinary pretty faces, but put up on a level of almost superhero status by donning those wings. But that doesn't make it okay. Not one bit. I guess it is just situation that is hard for me to work out in my mind. I know that if someone pulled that kind of crap on me, at my job, I would have walked away immediately from that job and ran my big mouth all the way to a damn good lawyer to kick some butt and expose this stuff, not wait 10 to 15 years later and then approach the media about all the really bad history they had. Of course. I am not paid enough to stay in an offensive place of work, so that would not be a hard decision. And is it for real that people are playing dumb that the shops were being used in V.S. clothing production? Why the hell do you think these companies even moved their manufacturers our of our nation to begin with? Better insurance benefits? Americans need to taken some responsibility here.
Slave labor is...😪🙏...God bless the angels...so sad about the weight control...y sexual advances...love the products ...the angels are beautiful...money should never rule over the people who matter most...🧡🕯
I agree with Ed Razek. That was the point of Victory Secret is to be a fantasy. Men and Women as well loved it. We women knew we didn't look like VS models but we liked feeling and looking like one for our man. I loved their shows and the angels. All that woke bs ya'll spat is stupid and ya'll ruined what was so great about Victoria Secret. Now the underwear and the models are ugly nobody wants to buy it. Which is why sales are crashing and the stores are ghost towns. Most women agree with me too. We want the glitz, the glamor and the Angels back!
You beautifully explained it, this is the harsh truth! Not that harsh though, glamour and sex appeal run the world, it is what it is. Also I find these campaigns offensive towards plus size girls because they seem to imply they are unattractive and they use labels such as "comfort" or "for the average women" isn't it a miserable message to send? Doesn't it imply the woman in that campaign has flaws because she's not thin so the underlying message is "she's not as attractive as skinny models but I'll show her to you ugly people so you can relate"? I bet even plus size girls prefer to identify with the skinny models, it's about a message, a fantasy you want to live and recreate, not about pointing the finger on how your body is so different and out of the norm, to me that's the opposite of body positivity, body positivity is about being confident with your own body not your body advertised as different and average, but that's just my opinion. I remember Adriana Lima said in 2003 at the very sexy book launch "It's about being confident with yourself, being confident with what you have" and even though we are talking about an extraordinary beauty who can easily be confident she nailed the description of body positivity to me, being confident with what you have and I would say never stop taking care of your body and improving yourself! Sweeping away the angels is not the solution, that was the worst decision ever.
Re: the working conditions in the 3rd world countries. Are we SURE VS had control over that? Oh, they shouldn't use that kind of labor? Have you checked how many other companies use that kind of labor? Re: what models do to keep their weight down. "Are forced to do". Yes, there is a difficult standard to keep, but did anyone tell them they must remain dehydrated or use cocaine? Some people are naturally thin, they're born with less adipose cells. I've no doubt there is a way for SOME people to stay very thin, without abusing their bodies. Now, if they can't do it without abusing their bodies, that is their problem. Re: sexual harassment by the male executives. No excuse for that, obviously. The guilty ones should be criminally prosecuted and publicly shamed. But the company should have kept their beautiful shows. It's the end of an era where beauty was beautiful, and beautiful was enviable. Now, anythign goes.
And the biggest size I've seen in a store in alabama is a triple D after they sized me and tried to fit me in a B cup and my actual cup size is a NATURAL size M cup after 2 children
A native black African man wearing a dinner suit could be considered cultural appropriation then? They should be wearing cultural dress? You cannot have it both ways.
I wanna see a fantasy, not THE MESSAGE! I see normal and obese wo.en everywhere, and I don't like the iclusive shows. Show me one big company that hasn't blood on their hands. People stuff their mouths with unhealthy junk from Nastlé but that doesn't bother them. And most fashion is produced under horrible circumstances.
What are your thoughts on Victoria's Secret?
I think you should have called it bath tub meth because it was garbage meth made in the tub genius not with bath water wtf?
I only buy their lotions and sprays. The staff, whenever I go in any of their stores, is super snotty. Overpriced definitely!! I do like their PINK store.
Sad to hear but why is Victoria secret failing go woke go broke
Since all these scandals I shop clearance online and suddenly I can afford it, it’s nice stuff!
I didn't know the details, other than Reznik's comments. The 2010 problem? Putting a "woman of color" in wild thing" kind of lingerie? i literally didn't see what the problem could be, just looking at her going down the runway looking gorgeous with the men behind her. Then they announced what the supposed problem was. Wtf. You know who notices race first? Racists.
Why is lex wexner still free as a bird instead of a jail bird?
4:32 ok and? If you're going to call out one company for child labor you better get going on making a shit ton of videos bc child laborers are used by almost every single large brand/company in the world!
The world is full of ignorant people who make the wrong people rich.
Yup
Showing off other cultures shouldn't be a big problem.
Girl can you lower your high pitched voice?
plus size=women : fat=men
lets look at Nestle when it comes to child labor..
olus size goes for both genders tf and how abt looking at all trashy capitalist companies that exploit children.
The dark side is still pink on the inside.
Haa!! 🤣🤣
When did fashion shows become so socio-political?
When the left decided they had to have a say in everything and inclusivity had to reach every single aspect of our lives 🙄
If only some of the industrial companies in the world could be under this amount of scrutiny imagine what things we would find in their conduct.
And now after the company’s inclusion of trans Models, the profits have dropped to an all time low. So maybe the loudest voices aren’t the larger share of the market after all.
@@oatenroberts Sounds like most people still have functioning brains...👍🏻
The models are starving themselves to look the part and you call it political!
Since decades ago. A lot of designer collections have been inspired by political events. Alexander McQueen did a collection called “Highland Rape”
When I was a young teenager I was told that I should do modeling because I was tall and quite thin, but my mom said 'No!', and I'm so glad she did! At first I didn't understand why she wouldn't let me, but I do now! She saved me from more than likely being mistreated like these poor women! I hope that no permanent damage has been done in more ways than one!
I have never bought anything from this company and always seen Victoria Secret as one of the worst brands. I was aware of their work practices and how they treat their employees in other countries. Nonetheless, I am against branding all together and only look at quality and necessity of the product. Branding is one of the most toxic "invention" of our century and brings only higher and higher input to falsifying of who we truly are and how we want to be perceived, which in the end builds up only more egoistic society than actually helping people to rise their self esteem in a healthy way.
Barbara Palvin as ‘plus size inclusivity’ 😂
That voice!!! Probably great info but I had to stab my ears into deafness!
It kind of sounds like that girl on Twilight not the main girl but her friend Bella's friend that she went shopping with.
😂😂😂😂👏👏
Then turn on captions and mute the video
Complaining won't get you anywhere 🙄
@@GideonMadu I don't want to go anywhere, silly. I'm just giving feedback in case they want more followers. It's ok to have an opinion, I think first amendment is still in the constitution? With this SCOTUS, who knows.
@@kristn6513 Shitting on someone's voice, something that they have no control over, is anything but a "feedback" lmao
It's one thing to have an opinion, but to weaponize it to isnult something someone has as a natural trait is just downright shitty.
Not like yours is any better to begin with. Then again, that's coming from a 2020 account.
I am confused... so if you put people in what could be considered ethnic gear... that could be their ethnicity that is an issue, so then you put that ethnic clothing on someone who is not that ethnicity and that is also an issue? So which way is right then?
Could be is different than is also to put a black woman in a stereotypical outfit is just wrong.
More fabric cost more
The models have the right to refuse. Enough models refuse then these wrongs wouldn’t occur. These models sold themselves short.
Frankly my dear I don't give a damn.
You must or you would not take the time to watch and comment.
Or you like watching scantily clad women, you’ll never get the time of day. “On the border of porn. I know it when I see it.” Former Supreme Court judge.
Some of these people must be a blast at Halloween parties. They are costumes and they didnt have to do the show.
The only reason I watched the show was to see what theme they have created and the music ..
The voice over of very pitchy
Thankfully, since Covid, many people have gotten back into making their own clothes. With todays' TH-cam vids, learning this is simplified including upcycling of items etc.
1. Most companies care more for bigger sizes.
2. Most clothing business salvage the inventory of shelves and sell it for no money instead of donating it . Because when they salvage the product they get credit from the manufacturer and then they sell it for something or get tax credit that’s why they never donate or give it all away -$$$$$$ sad but true
The guy called Razek was right about the VS fashion show being portrayed as a dream, and a dream cannot look any less of a dream, so everything was supposed to be perfect: perfect models with perfect skin, beautiful lingerie and costumes plus admired by many music performances of world class stars like Lady Gaga, Maroon 5, Taylor Swift - only to name a few. Being a VS model was a dream of many models and aspiring models in fashion industry - not because ANYONE could get there, but because ONLY A FEW chosen ones could achieve that, it was a really high stake and strict requirements for the girls. I miss those shows, they were like fairy tales, with each one depicting a different theme.
About the alleged blast of cultural differences and using the clothing associated with some particular parts of the world or race - I am sure it was not anyone's intention to belittle any culture. People need to understand that it was a fashion show - models were wearing what they were being told to wear. If the fashion show directors believed that the Asian-looking outfit was going to look better on a blonde European-looking model, they chose one of the blonde models to present it. Or maybe even they did it on purpose to show that they respect all the cultures and portray them with equality on different models (Asian, White, Black).
And the blast for using the cotton being collected in Africa by kids - that is the peak of hypocrisy! Don't average people know that literally ALL big companies take their fabrics, and materials from the cheapest available sources? And that in MANY parts of the world working children are still unfortunately a "norm"? Do you really think that H&M, Zara, Primark, Mango or other brands CARE and check where their fabrics are supposed to come from? And also do you really think that it was only Victoria's Secret brand that was taking the cotton from this particular cotton field to produce their lingerie out of it? I highly doubt it.
With all this fight for equality, inclusiveness and tolerance literally everywhere, people will slowly lose everything that was/is pretty, exclusive, luxurious, dreamy and iconical.
Everybody knows they do anything for money, glamour and fame.
Oh brother.
Plus size ladies have Lane Bryant. Skinnys can have their Victoria's Secret. Would you walk into a plus size store and harass them because there is no size 1?? No? Then calm down
They sold out and ran it into the ground. The Secret's out!! Great job reporting on this company.
Cultural appropriation is not wrong, and woke type of business is bad and dragging company down.
I'm not trying to seem rude but there are stores only for xl plus and I believe that xl is big enough and a huge step for certain brands. Its alot of work u have to use more material with thicker straps. They should have increased prices all around if they were gonna increase the price of bras d and above. Seems like a horribly chosen financial choice was made here.
Victoria's secret is that there all men , that's a FACT !!! Praise the Lord !!!
My God I really hate these idiots trying to ruin everything because they aren't happy. I'm not rich so according to them I need to protest rich people.
She sounds like someone that would look like an atrocity in any Victoria's Secret lingerie. Don't hate cause you can't rock it and look good.
Hmph. I found my bra size at Victoria Secret. The staff was very friendly but the bra was expensive.
Now that you know your size, shop clearance online, crazy deals!
What a disgusting brand.
Thank you
Absolutley.
What's wrong with plus size really predjucie when it comes to women of color and native amercian we have colored women who are Indians too please the industry is wicked anyways F Victoria secret I hate the industry
Yeah F Victoria Secret! They SUCK👎😡
Thankfully everyone in my entire family threw away every single piece of Victoria’s Secret merchandise in the trash, we all vowed in solidarity to boycott any company that cave’s into woke culture. In our family home we have a gargantuan list on the refrigerator of companies we no longer do business with. Thankfully on the bright side of things, not only do we have boatloads of money before all this, now we spend those boatloads of our hard earned cash on companies that don’t virtue signal. I don’t want politics in my products, and neither should you.
Yup! The left has decided they have to have a voice in every single space. Inclusivity has to wrap it's nasty arms around everything too. I'm a fat woman and I don't want to see fat women on the runway. I don't want to see trans ppl on the runway either bc those are not biological women.
👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Should’ve boycotted them when their human trafficking of young models and ties to Jeffrey Epstein were revealed
@@cns3433 Here here ... the whole shite is pathetic
The Victoria Secret designers care only for looks. The fashions are terrible for fitting properly. Even on the runway you can see models in poorly fitting items. You pay for the privilege of wearing the name.
Sounds like Hollywood actors and actresses.
They over charge for bras and underwear this is gross pray victory secret closes it's perverted it exploits women
But male strip shows with crowds of leering out of control women are OK? Just ban everything then and make everybody miserable.
just trying to defend the switch to marketing to men and the stock crashing
Bigger size, more material! WTF I wouldn't absorb the cost for materials either, you want a bra and you're a bigger size,your going to pay for it! Imagine if all larger women wanted v.s bras,hell they'd go out of business as a result of absorbing material cost. From a business standpoint I get it. That said, I still don't like V
S.
For crying out loud! It's just fashion. Here today, gone tomorrow. So a black model wore fake leopardskin outfit and they are all freakin out. Then some white models were slagged off for wearing a Chinese dragon outfit or whatever.. lts pathetic.
White is a color. And the association between blacks and Africa and African animals is an ancient one.
I couldn't get past the obnoxious tone of voice. GEEZE!!!
Rapinhole is definitely bringing Victoria Secret down. Thanks to her I am wearing Jockey brand and saving moola...
Those women look boney as hell
Of course. They are under the industry oath as well‼️
My ears are sore
And there stuff is not good
🐢 Hooks and eye clasps on old bras can be donated to local wildlife rehabilitators who use them to mend broken shells on turtles that may have been run over by a vehicle 🏥
Too woke for me thumbs down 👎
It’s much darker than that. Come on man
I didn't know the details, other than Reznik's comments. The 2010 problem? Putting a "woman of color" in wild thing" kind of lingerie? i literally didn't see what the problem could be, just looking at her going down the runway looking gorgeous with the men behind her. Then they announced what the supposed problem was. Wtf. You know who notices race first? Racists. You know who obsesses about race? racists. I literally didn't think anything of her color, seeing her on the runway, it was just beautiful.
Cultural appropriation? I will never understand that one. If only the people from a culture Z are allowed to be inspired by culture Z, will this REALLY create a world of "inclusivity" and "diversity", as opposed to hermetically closed off compartments?
As a creative person myself, I can imagine feeling inspired by China or Native American culture, and creating something beautiful... to be told this is wrong? wth. If it's beautiful, how can it be wrong??
Also epstein was involved in this business!
ONLY FOR A LITTLE WHILE..HE NEVER TECHNICALLY WORKED FOR THE COMPANY!! AND HE CONTINUOUSLY USED THE COMPANY AS A MEANS OF GETTING YOUNGER WOMEN TO COME HOME WITH HIM.. AGAINST WEXNER SPECIFICALLY TELLING HIM NOT TO!! I'VE MET ALL OF THEM BECAUSE I USED TO WORK FOR THE COMPANY.. AND THEY ARE ALL AHOLES!!
Victoria Secret, more like Secrets!
Where are the first famous Victoria's Secret models at on this topic? Did they appreciate the life and opportunities that the sacrifices provided? Or just weren't asked? Heidi Klum, Tyra Banks, etc...? Did these same issues not go own then? What about high fashion runway? Was it different? What role did model Agents play in this, I assume these gals had agents? There is much more I would like to know, just wandering why only this company...this group of models...were spotlighted in this video, Grunge? I feel sure that many more than V.S. has had these issues, and why you didn't mention if so or not so. By asking this, I am not defending any actions that were in the wrong, by any people in the wrong. In fact, I feel that to really want and to get changes, that you must act not just in bad times, then forget them in the good times, but when the offenses begin, make a stand, there is always more strength in numbers, right?The sexism in the model/fashion/beauty industry is not a surprise, nor the strict, unrealistic standards of image, because these girls are known by the world as not your ordinary pretty faces, but put up on a level of almost superhero status by donning those wings. But that doesn't make it okay. Not one bit. I guess it is just situation that is hard for me to work out in my mind. I know that if someone pulled that kind of crap on me, at my job, I would have walked away immediately from that job and ran my big mouth all the way to a damn good lawyer to kick some butt and expose this stuff, not wait 10 to 15 years later and then approach the media about all the really bad history they had. Of course. I am not paid enough to stay in an offensive place of work, so that would not be a hard decision. And is it for real that people are playing dumb that the shops were being used in V.S. clothing production? Why the hell do you think these companies even moved their manufacturers our of our nation to begin with? Better insurance benefits? Americans need to taken some responsibility here.
BS this topic has been going on since Kate Moss and it turned out to be true.
Sorry I have nothing about big girls but its Victoria secret you have to be thin I'm a woman by the way and I'm alittle on the chubby side.
Listen African children work however dont hit them but that might have been the African men doing the hitting.
Slave labor is...😪🙏...God bless the angels...so sad about the weight control...y sexual advances...love the products ...the angels are beautiful...money should never rule over the people who matter most...🧡🕯
I agree with Ed Razek. That was the point of Victory Secret is to be a fantasy. Men and Women as well loved it. We women knew we didn't look like VS models but we liked feeling and looking like one for our man. I loved their shows and the angels. All that woke bs ya'll spat is stupid and ya'll ruined what was so great about Victoria Secret. Now the underwear and the models are ugly nobody wants to buy it. Which is why sales are crashing and the stores are ghost towns. Most women agree with me too. We want the glitz, the glamor and the Angels back!
THANK YOU
You beautifully explained it, this is the harsh truth! Not that harsh though, glamour and sex appeal run the world, it is what it is. Also I find these campaigns offensive towards plus size girls because they seem to imply they are unattractive and they use labels such as "comfort" or "for the average women" isn't it a miserable message to send? Doesn't it imply the woman in that campaign has flaws because she's not thin so the underlying message is "she's not as attractive as skinny models but I'll show her to you ugly people so you can relate"? I bet even plus size girls prefer to identify with the skinny models, it's about a message, a fantasy you want to live and recreate, not about pointing the finger on how your body is so different and out of the norm, to me that's the opposite of body positivity, body positivity is about being confident with your own body not your body advertised as different and average, but that's just my opinion. I remember Adriana Lima said in 2003 at the very sexy book launch "It's about being confident with yourself, being confident with what you have" and even though we are talking about an extraordinary beauty who can easily be confident she nailed the description of body positivity to me, being confident with what you have and I would say never stop taking care of your body and improving yourself! Sweeping away the angels is not the solution, that was the worst decision ever.
Re: the working conditions in the 3rd world countries. Are we SURE VS had control over that? Oh, they shouldn't use that kind of labor? Have you checked how many other companies use that kind of labor?
Re: what models do to keep their weight down. "Are forced to do". Yes, there is a difficult standard to keep, but did anyone tell them they must remain dehydrated or use cocaine? Some people are naturally thin, they're born with less adipose cells. I've no doubt there is a way for SOME people to stay very thin, without abusing their bodies. Now, if they can't do it without abusing their bodies, that is their problem.
Re: sexual harassment by the male executives. No excuse for that, obviously. The guilty ones should be criminally prosecuted and publicly shamed. But the company should have kept their beautiful shows. It's the end of an era where beauty was beautiful, and beautiful was enviable. Now, anythign goes.
A fair trade is when I buy something from you. Nothing else.
And the biggest size I've seen in a store in alabama is a triple D after they sized me and tried to fit me in a B cup and my actual cup size is a NATURAL size M cup after 2 children
Never liked the brand, now I hate it.
I only saw the title have not watched the video and my only response is..."Naaawwww!"
Will Express is close
The whole shabang is PATHETIC!!!!! 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻🤬😡
I'm size 4!!!!!!!!!!! I'm plus size!!!!?????😮💨
Dark women chu chu~
I have brought victoria secret under wear
Thanks for sharing 👍😀
Evil company
Excellent video
Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow...😊
Haha
Logo, wundert mich nicht
Victoria Secrets knockoffs are called Victoria Lies. At least that's what I'd call it.
A native black African man wearing a dinner suit could be considered cultural appropriation then? They should be wearing cultural dress? You cannot have it both ways.
Yea... Same crap diffrent yr..
Omg😢
Find me a tran that looks like her is what I say
I wanna see a fantasy, not THE MESSAGE! I see normal and obese wo.en everywhere, and I don't like the iclusive shows.
Show me one big company that hasn't blood on their hands. People stuff their mouths with unhealthy junk from Nastlé but that doesn't bother them.
And most fashion is produced under horrible circumstances.
Greedy, soulless creatures and industry.
exelent