Dirty Pair: Project Eden | KYOTO VIDEO
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- Dirty Pair: Project Eden is the best the Dirty Pair franchise has ever looked! It is also the worst the Dirty Pair franchise has ever been presented.
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it would be cool a new series of Dirty Pair with this 80's look
and music
I'd love to see an 'East-meets-West' crossover with Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy.
I remember reading that the Star Trek TNG crew were big fans of Dirty Pair and put a lot of references in the background.
Probably reciprocated because there are Star Trek easter eggs in the Dirty Pair TV series.
man. Are you really going to make me watch episodes of The Next Generation?
@@jonfitzpatrick9942 Hopefully it's in a wiki somewhere
A year late for this reply, but it's true! In "The Icarus Factor" Kei and Yuri's name is in Japanese on the platform of the (horrible) ambujitsu ring. The Exocomp and Stubb's Egg are loosely designed after Nanmo. And the prop department made replicas of Kei and Yuri's guns, using them in several episodes. Rick Sternbach, illustrator for TNG, even auctioned off his replica of Kei's gun on eBay after TNG ended. Lucky winner.
Even with the main character flaw of Carson, I still love it for the animation and, more so, the soundtrack.
great soundtrack ! I got it on vinyl !
Possibly the weirdest movie I will constantly proselytize. “If you watch only one thoroughly 80’s anime, make it this one.”
Some of the music I’ve listened to most. At a time period when I had no access to “soundtracks” but only what I recorded by holding my stereo up to the TV speaker. That I would carry around with me and, like, play “Over the Top” at the top of a slope in HS Ski Club, finishing off right as Wattsman screams. 😝
“I hate this movie” and are a bad man with incorrect options that are bad!
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Probably helps that I didn’t even watch this dubbed or subtitled until the late-90’s, so my first decade didn’t have to listen to Carson’s actual dialogue. 😝 Plus, there’s a good difference between “shit you watched first at 14 during an 80’s/90’s era when dopey shit was common” and coming to it much later. I doubt I’d have given DP much thought at all if I came to it later, as I did with Lupin for years until Part V and TWCFM changed my stance on it. (At least latter Lupin.)
However. This is still going to be the way I entice people into anything DP, so I have to disagree with your end comments. A movie is an easy sell, and a a two-cour TV show, or even a brace of disconnected OVAs, is a harder one. If someone is already 80’s TV primed, sure, but they’re likely already knowing of it or have watched, and I’ll probably try to push them to more eclectic or challenging things. The world needs more Yawara fans than Dirty Pair. 😛
And there is almost nothing that can match the 80’s anime aesthetic/experience. So even if parts are bad for the characters, it will still be the more effective primer, I think.
Carson D. Carson was actually isekai'd into the Dirty Pair world.
I will like to see a Isekai in a Sci-fi scenario
As for it looking awful Roger Moore.. Well when it came out, EVERY Bond movie for the last 15 odd years had been Moore Bond (and it had been about 5 since the last "good" one "For Your Eyes Only). Living Daylights came out half a year after this (and was no prize). Though it is interesting that the opening breakdown for "Through the Danger" sounds so much like "The Sun Always Shines on TV" given who did the theme to Living Daylights.. (Ah Ha).
There's a reason Wattsman has those 2 long rants (and as a fan-titler, I got VERY familiar with them). The joke is, Wattsman is so far out of it, that he doesn't NOTICE that Carson and the Pair aren't part of his experiments. Even when he's tied up on the sled, he reacts to Kei and Carson like he's hosting "Mutual of Omaha".
And yes, Kei and Carson doesn't ever quite work (Smith and Warren did this thing better in Biohazards, play up the lust). But you have to see him as part of the set. Kei and Yuri are the only characters in the story who AREN'T obsessing over something. Wattsman has his experiments, Urdas has their 5-year-plan, Edia just wants to get this done so he can shack up with the secretary, and Carson NEEDS to steal back what was stolen from him. He's probably a notch TOO competent, but he's the (kinda) serious thread running through the plot. The girls just want to "fix the sink" and move on (i.e. vacation somewhere nicer), he exists to give their "side" of the triangle a mock-heroic obsession. It isn't done perfectly (like I said, Kei/Carson needs more lust, less notice me senpai). But the Angels have effectively dropped into a 3-4 sided plot of obsessions, and, crazy as they are, they are the straight (wo)men. They spend the movie deflating the others (except Wattsman, who's too nuts to notice). They dump the Chief on his head, give the Chairman a shovel when he asks what they (Urdas) are going to do, listen to Carson rant of their ignorance, and then wring the plot out of him after stripping him to his boxers. It's hard to play the shonen hero in that outfit.
No one bringing up the fact that clear homages to Thriller intro bass-line and Billie Jean strings appear in the soundtrack bgm during the ova?
Just discovered your channel, and it's really great stuff. Keep it up dude
couldn’t have said any of this better myself, great vid
As someone who binged the Dirty Pair tv series and loved it a lot, then went on to the OVAs (which was quite a step down imho but still enjoyable). Was looking for more Dirty Pair to watch - Nolandia was decent, and the next was Project Eden. Truly a disappointment and I echo everything said in this video. The pair just felt off, the focus wasn't on them, the villains didn't feel threatening and the real Kei wouldn't have missed every punch in hand to hand combat. Here's hoping 005 would be a good sendoff for the original series and maybe I'll give Dirty Pair Flash a chance again.
21:50 If that ain’t an example of a Gary Stu, I don’t know what is...
Dirty Pair: Project Eden being your first video of the new decade? Ah yes, very good.
I have mixed feelings about this movie. One hand I find the movie really fun and entertaining but in the other hand,i'm totally agree with you about the treatment of the Lovely Angels which is just frustrating and even if I find Carson D.Carson pretty cool (it's a nice cross between Lupin the Third and Ryo Saeba) it steal too much the show of Lovely Angels and it's sad. Despite this,i personally love this movie but more like a guilty pleasure. Too bad they didn't make a second movie with the same animation style but which would better highlight the Lovely Angels but at least we have,like you said,the TV series and we also have the Flight Conspiracy OVA who as a undeniably better plot.
CDC matches Kei in physicality and humor and is the only love interest that survives any of the stories. Would a brawler like Kei love a man she could wipe the floor with? CDC might be the only man in the DP universe to break the K&Y plot armor so I appreciate Project Eden going there. I find the closing scene where they are reunited to be pretty touching so the character development is screen time well spent. I agree though that this might not be the best place to start a DP journey.
Why does the the guy's head need to be censored?
Any thoughts on megazone 23?
What song is in your intro? Great vids btw
I still have a VHS of the Streamline dub.
I own no VCR, but hey.
I really hope your channel blows up
That was a scathing critique. You make some valid points and Carson D. Carson is definitely not my favorite guest character in the Dirty Pair saga. That being said I still really love this anime. The music and production values pull you in and never let go. I also have a heavy nostalgia factor for this movie as I had a copy of Project Eden on a bootleg VHS way back in the 80's. I also had most of the TV series and all of the second OVA series on bootleg as well. Dirty Pair is one of my favorite 80's anime series.
What's the music playlist for this episode?
Check the credits
I 1000% agree with this. Like many, this was the first Dirty Pair I ever got my hands on, and I knew something was off about it, but as I was a teenage dingdong I didn't quite know what it was. Watching it again recently, I see it as a betrayal of pretty much everything Dirty Pair stands for and have a perma-cringe while watching it, which is a shame because the visuals and the soundtrack are still killer. Carson D. Carson can DIAF.
I adore the style of this movie with its visuals and soundtrack, and happening upon the opening while on Twitter one day is what got me to check out the TV series and fall in love with the show.
Shame about the rest of the movie huh
Nice to see a fellow fan of Dmf web comic.
Non riesco a trovare disponibili gli episodi di (Kate e Julie-Dirty Pair+10 OAV) e neanche i film di Dirty Pair: Project Eden, Dirty Pair: Flight 005 Conspiracy e Dirty Pair: Affair of Nolandia in italiano. Qualcuno mi farebbe piacere dirmi in quale sito download li posso trovare disponibili? Per favore
11:17
Professor Wattsman?
Professor Wattsman?
_WATTSMAN_
🎼WAAATSMAAAAAAn!🎼
WAAATSMAAAAAN!!
You missed one 😝
Wait no!! You missed two! CDC also says Wattsman at the beginning 😆
Really great analysis! This was unfortunately my first exposure to this franchise and genuinely made me think that Yuri was literally the 3rd wheel and that Carson was supposed to be like the reccuring hero, thank fucking god this was far from the truth. The TV series is fantastic and leagues better than this. Aside from visuals yeah this movie kinda sucks. I wont forget it since it got me into this series but goddamn do i wish it would have been more like the TV series or something. Oh well
Which dub is better, streamline or ADV
I'd say ADV because Streamline's dub, like all of its other dubs, definitely shows its age.
@@KaiserBeamz i see. I dont mind some 198x cheese dubs for some anime but i think itll make dirty pair a bit...too cheesy
Goblin Lord technically 26 but the last two were released as OVAs and called “with love from the lovely angels”
Somebody needs a funny bone replacement.. I love Project Eden and the Dirty Pair..
Indeed. This comment section was embarassing to read
I'm pretty sure he's just seething over Carson D. Carson for stealing away his waifu
Great analysis! I watched the TV series first, then the OVAs, then Project Eden, and unfortunately my conclusion was more or less the same as yours (which was vindicating to hear). I had read PE had excellent animation, and in that I wasn't disappointed... But the ham-handed implementation of mr. wannabe third main character was quite annoying.
I think the inclusion of Carson could have been ok had the plot turned out differently (like have him turn out to be an anti-villain, or fail to live up to his own bluster), just not have him get the limelight AND a hero's ending in Kei and Yuri's big epic movie!
Also, his design makes me think of a grown-up, douchebag version of Kamille Bidan.
I have been binge watching your videos man and i just want to say that i really enjoy them all. I have been adding them to my video player in VRchat Room Children of Daicon and i was hoping you wouldn't mind if i placed your channel profile picture on the wall. Most of the shows you have discussed that are available on youtube are on the playlist so these videos mix in perfectly!
Honestly if you edit out "wonder boy", Project Eden would be an awesome screensaver for your computer.
Your loathing of Carson D. Carson's "Toxic Masculinity" and being able to capture Kei's heart? Are you seriously White Knighting for Kei? :D
My issue isn't that he was able to capture Kei's heart. My issue is that he turned Kei into a bottom.
@@KaiserBeamz Seemed to me like there was a mutual respect there for each other and they would have taken turns being bottom if it went further. :D
@@inkermoy K&Y kick and shoot and assault him through several scenes, as is anime tradition, but they each took a butt kicking from the other by the end. A brawler like Kei could only love a man that could kick her a$$ when she needed it.
Subbed
I really like your channel, mainly due to the fact that you cover older anime and that you give them a pretty balanced review. Good stuff.
Though, I wonder if you would ever consider doing a review on Moldiver or any of the Patlabor series?
do a dirty pair ova review and flight 005 conspiracy review, please
As one who's a newbie to this franchise, I wasn't planning to watch this film first, but the TV series instead, and, looks like I'm going to pass this one up. Your thoughts on this are the exact same thoughts I have on the _Mobile Suit Gundam: Char's Counterattack_ and _Sailor Moon S: The Movie_ films. Beautiful and/or pretty good animation, and fans claim they're some of the best these franchises have to offer, but in actuality, they're not, are extremely overrated and barely focus on the protagonists that they should focus on, although funnily enough, the first Dirty Pair novel was actually focused entirely on Kei's perspective, not so much Yuri's.
While Carson's not as loathsome as PK from the Fandora anime, he's still pretty much one of those "Screw everyone, I'm so cool and special and better than everyone else" idiots, like someone's OC fanfiction insert, Katsuji Mori (Speed Racer, Garma from Gundam 0079 and Nephrite from Sailor Moon) was wasted as him (and seriously, setting up a ship between him and Kei when one of the first things that happened was he freaking groped her?! I mean, besides appeasing to sick freaks against nature who think that sexual assault fetishes are acceptable things to have). If I were writing this, Carson should have been taken down many pegs, or maybe have him be the one who went all doe-eyed or something, maybe build it up like he's the one interested and it gradually makes Kei more and more annoyed until she rejects him, or have it so Yuri hates him from the start for trying to get into Kei's pants, and maybe have her do what Kaori from City Hunter did and hammer his skull in. And seriously, what's with all the Carson fanboys and fangirls in the comments, praising and being fans of this guy who would be on the sex offender's registry IRL?
I thought 11:20 wasn't too campy though, I think it's perfect, and I do love Wattsman's theme song. 😆
To add to the craziness also a Famicom Disk System game based off of this film, which also is sadly a piece of crap, it's got nothing to do with the film's story (which might be a good thing), but it's also a slow, clunky, difficult-as-hell sidescrolling platformer/shooter, and to cap it all off, you can only play as Yuri, with Kei just being a powerup in the first/third stages, which is a stupid concept, not being able to play as both of them, or maybe they were, in some way, trying to make up for Yuri being underutilized in the film, but nonetheless, it sucks that it's the only Dirty Pair game ever made! Even the Gall Force: Eternal Story game, which wasn't like its film counterpart, was better.
Brunette? Quite sure she has blue hair, unless I need to seriously check on my optician
Dark blue
>the worst the Dirty Pair franchise has ever been presented
Lol. As if Affair on Nolandia and Flash magically don’t exist
How about that new manga where they're wearing those ridiculous outfits?
Honestly, I thought the that one and Flight 005 Conspiracy were both pretty boring.
Flash isn’t even that bad. It’s different in terms of artstyle and certain episodes getting serious, but it’s still fun.
Playa hating on Carson? Really?
Amen brother 👆
Ro-ro-ro-russian!
This was one of the first VHS import that I watched 35 years ago. You are right about the movie but I still enjoyed it becuase the animation was amazing at the time. I paid $50. for the vhs with no subtitles.
Just got into Dirty Pair because of your original video. Honestly, I'm just gonna skip to the OVA series instead. Any chance you have interest in covering the OVAs?
The animation and music is really good, the story is...interesting.
so glad you felt the same distaste for this flick. I adored the tv series as a kid but hated this turd. I'm such a Kei fanboy; couldn't believe they'd do her dirty like that..
Most ret@rd comment award winner here
Every time he says "the lovely angels" take a drink.
From directing Project Eden and Dominion Tank Police to directing substandard shows like Noir and the 2008 Blade of the Immortal adaptation.
Koichi Mashimo, what happened to you?
Noir was very good actually
@@mariuspoppFM You mean it's OST, right ?
@@karry299 everything, crappo
Even as someone who has never watched Dirty Pair, seeing strong capable heroines get "put in their place" by a man had me audibly saying 'F$%K OFF' at the screen. Kei & Yuri deserved better than this BS.
this is where i started my dirty pair love
My first exposure to the dirty pair was afair on nolandia. I thought that was the mildest dirty a pair story.
A Ritz Brothers mention...I love it!
Perhaps its because I first saw it in the Streamline dub, rather than in original Japanese or the ADV dub. To some, changing the dialog is an inexcusable sin... but it makes the movie that much more entertaining... and even improves Carson a tad
Okay... You're right I understand, maybe I should stick to the T.V. series of Dirty Pair and the O.V.A
Do yourself a favor: Ignore the fanboy crap and watch it
I do like Project Eden a lot, but I also agree that it's not a typical example of a DP plot. The investigation and intrigue are basically meaningless bridges to the action set pieces.
Yup, Carson ruined it. It's obviously a show about sensual women and cool adventures. Here, that show is ruined by an awful, unlikeable "man" who hates on them while doing lifehacks.
Still your most embarassing video
My big gripe with Wattsman is that he looks like a Detective Conan reject with his big ol ears.
Feels good to be a coomers
though i do wish i saw the series first
I love the message in this movie. No matter what you do you'll never be as good as Carson. (i like him)
The worse? I am not sure on that, that movie kick ass and had a lot of action. Yeah it was not a brain thinker movie, but it is not to set back and see Kei and Yuri blow stuff up in the movie's final moments. Was it as good as the tv show or OVA? Maybe not. But it was still a fun ride.