Trails of Cold Steel 4 Review, Recap & Analysis | End of Saga

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  • @kagekun1198
    @kagekun1198 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    One of the best characters of the Cold Steel saga I'd say is Altina. Who could have imagined that emotionless antagonist in Part II would grow into one of the cutest relationships Rean has ever had? I teared up in the credits in Olivier's wedding because of her. Part of this is because I saw the suicide attempts George, Claire and Lechter made more seriously. If these people never cared at all, they would have played the villain part without feeling anything, but they did. The regret, the guilt, the remorse... how could any sane person forsake all their relationships, their bonds in order to bring about the Great Twilight without any shame? Altina was spared all of that when I saw her enjoying the wedding among the throngs of her friends and comrades without reserve. Whoever sent Altina to Class VII be it Alberich, Osborne or some random administrator did a damn fine thing for her. A damn fine thing. They didn't only save Altina's life, they saved her soul.
    One more thing I want to point out is how Valimar weaponized the power of friendship. Yes, it's a cliche, but it's a cliche well integrated into the mecha fights. All the Divine Knights have a special ability. Ordine has its super mode, Testa-Rossa has its Thousand Weapons, El Prado has its shield, and etc. Valimar has the ability to turn the bonds of its Awakener into its strength. Rean had his comrades from Old and New Class VII, and Dreichels had his 17 Nord friends, Roland Vander, Roselia Millstein, and Lianne Sandlot. You, I and Dreichel's all know how potent that power could be. That's why he was utterly untempted by Ishmelga's promises. How could friendless wretches like Alberich and Ishmelga ever comprehend Valimar's true strength?

  • @Nezan
    @Nezan ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Who’s here before diving into reverie

  • @Firen-vh3xc
    @Firen-vh3xc ปีที่แล้ว +9

    what i hate about these games is that everybody in your party has to speak no matter what. even if its everybody just saying "rean" its unnatural and cheesy to force everyone to have a dialogue just because they are there lol

  • @Whokilledkenny9
    @Whokilledkenny9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I am actually glad you touched on Cedric. I think his arc has the potential to clap super hard. There are too many scenarios in cold steel that feel way too clean with people being forgiven or just let of with light punishment or you know the absolute pull out of the ass from certain death. I wish there was more dynamics between the heroes and antagonists then the typical either you are comically evil or you are my friend regardless of you plunging the entire world to the brink of destruction. I want a few character relationships that just become unrepairable. The fact that Cedric realizes how much burden his decisions have caused everyone and him needing to learn how to stand on his own two feet has me really excited for what they could do with him. I pray Falcom doesn't just have him come back, be pardoned, and act like nothing ever happened. I also would like to see if Cedric has an effect on Shirley long term as well.

    • @BLACKDISC
      @BLACKDISC  ปีที่แล้ว

      you're spitting facts right now!

  • @PA__san
    @PA__san ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Glad to see some love for the Juna speech at the start. Its actually pretty controversial among the community as many thought it should have been Sara to give the speech.

    • @BLACKDISC
      @BLACKDISC  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ah, I could see why people would want that. I definitely feel like having the 'new generation' (new class vii) push the 'old generation' (old class vii) is a lot more interesting than reiterating cold steel 1 and 2 party dynamics.

    • @yojimbo26
      @yojimbo26 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Really? Because Sara actually does do motivational speeches. I think in all games? Including IV at the end. She usually gets laughed at by the rest because she is a whimsically character, rarely taking anything serious. So no one takes her too seriously when she does it. The only time she didn't get laughed at when being serious is in III which she confronted her countrymen at the fortress.
      Juna is a much more serious and 'straight' character and Lloyd jr. to boot, so it makes much more sense her giving the motivational speech. Plus Sara is by this point more a member of class VII rather than an authority figure far above it. She would be down from the events at the Gral as much as the rest of them.

  • @nujanai
    @nujanai 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for all the Cold Steel Recap and Analysis videos. I simply don't have the time to play through the Cold Steel arc. These videos have helped me get up to speed as I continue playing through the rest of the series. Much appreciated!

  • @Qubicle.
    @Qubicle. ปีที่แล้ว +4

    kinda hate that in this game and reverie, Lloyd still has some character arc, meanwhile Estelle is just kinda there because bracer. even Agate and Tita get more character development than Estelle and Joshua in these two games.

    • @BLACKDISC
      @BLACKDISC  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Facts. They did Estelle and Joshua dirty

  • @kanggalon5452
    @kanggalon5452 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    when you said "juna is the only protagonist with both parents still alive" i kinda wanted to say something about that, then i realized that Rean is adopted by the baron couple, and Rean's mother / osborne's wife is killed during the raid LOL

  • @PhionexRising
    @PhionexRising ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for these vids. Im using this to give myself a refresher before reverie drops tomorrow. This whole series means so friggin much to me and i love seeing people equally as passionate in it

    • @BLACKDISC
      @BLACKDISC  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching! Enjoy Reverie! :)

  • @frogglen6350
    @frogglen6350 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's honestly insane how much effort was put into these games, but they're often ignored by casual audiences. Not saying casuals are bad, but it's a shame that some diamonds get ignored

  • @princton23
    @princton23 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Gotta say I loved at the end when rean is like “speech time” and everyone is like this isn’t just your show allow us

  • @jesserivera2043
    @jesserivera2043 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I was so looking forward to this!! You slayed. I am surprised you didn't mention Elliot's interrogation scene, though. Seeing his less merciful side was a treat 😂

  • @kanggalon5452
    @kanggalon5452 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    LOL, we had the same feeling when we play this game. i was wondering throughout the whole game "Yo, we are going to have a WAR between TWO GREAT COUNTRIES, shouldn't we prepare our weapons or something, instead of doing THESE MINOR QUESTS?" or something like "YO, why would we need to waste our time by saving our 'still-sane friends like angelica or icy maiden' instead of preparing to save the world?" still a great game tho. one more thing, some of the fights are UNNECESSARY, agree with what you said

  • @Raj-vy2yn
    @Raj-vy2yn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In summary to some of your thoughts.
    I'm always surprised some people actually enjoyed Pom Pom party, as someone who 100% the game and beat all opponents, it was just not very fun in comparison to Vantage Masters which remains great.
    New Class 7 being the protagonists was something I was OK with, but I was also fine with more Old Class 7, so I was fine with the halfway point they reached, where New Class 7 were closer to being Main characters with Old Class 7 being closer to side characters.
    As for Juna being the protagonist, I liked her segments, and was never unhappy when she was made lead, but I do enjoy Rean being lead more, as it felt like a stronger continuation of the existing story.
    In regards to the plot, I'm honestly surprised you had problems with following it.
    Since you listed them I always found it pretty easy to follow the Phantasmal Blaze Plan, Operation Jormungar, the Rivalries etc, all of it generally followed, also even while they were doing things like retreating, Rean outright mentions sensing all of the others coming before they retreat etc. I'm honestly shocked you did find it hard to follow.
    Honestly my issue with the general plot of Trails in general is more how I sometimes find it cringe inducing on just how optimistic Trails is in general, especially with how much can be blamed on the curse, despite the fact that things like Hamel would barely stand out IRL honestly, as we have far worse atrocities, that being said it works for the series as a whole, so I'm not going to disparage them on it much.
    As for the game revolving around going to places to talk to people, and then moving on, it honestly didn't bother me at all, and is likely part of what I enjoy about Cold Steel as a whole.
    Still going through the rest of your review, so I'll update/reply to this as I get through more later.

  • @localpizzaguy
    @localpizzaguy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just finished cold steel 4. Always love hearing your thoughts so I'm not talking to myself and going insane. Keep up the good work. Excited to play Reverie and hear your thoughts

  • @gigamear
    @gigamear ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do you feel like the Great Twilight as a plot device poisons the well for characters that are effected by it? I can't take the motivations of someone with evil black smoke coming out of their bodies seriously, and that feels like an L for a series that has historically done such a great job on making the smaller-scale politics and people effected by them believable.

  • @justbubu4445
    @justbubu4445 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s so close…
    Cold steel 4 is one of my personal favourites and these videos just adds to it. Would love to see what’s in store in the future

  • @agriviaa
    @agriviaa ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just finished Reverie. Going back through all these Trails videos made me truly glad that many people loved the series.
    There are downsides here and there but I think that falls on the subjective matter.
    Anyway, good analysis! Good luck on your career and do savor the enjoyment of playing Trails while in your free time!

  • @Ghalion666
    @Ghalion666 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They did Alfin dirty after cs1. She was like an even better olivier, but then not really because she only trolls elise. Wish she trolled everyone. QQ

    • @diegonunes5896
      @diegonunes5896 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Even better Olivier?! Hell no

  • @ThatGuyKazz
    @ThatGuyKazz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I 100% agree on the bonding events for my first play through I found some clear data online so I could just start with a NG+ and having unlimited bonding points. Personally I feel the games are just so much better when you can see everyone's bonding events.

  • @TakaCode
    @TakaCode ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's about time.

    Hope you will do analyses for the Sky and Crossbell games someday.

  • @gkrexperience5425
    @gkrexperience5425 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yo thank you for making this video. I have played every game up until now and it's so hard to keep up with the story especially since I wait for english releases. Had to catch up with wtf happened since Reverie released today and I didn't want to have to go back and play ToCS4 all over again.

  • @miponii-chan
    @miponii-chan ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for making this and sharing your thoughts. It was an excellent refresher and insight on things I missed before starting Reverie. I imagine coming back here for a Reverie recap in 3-4 years for Kuro lol

  • @Wise_Crack17
    @Wise_Crack17 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really enjoy your videos and speculation so I hope this difference in opinion doesn't come off the wrong way. Act 2, the way I thought of it in my head was as follows. There's a war about to start, you need all hands on deck. This is the assembling of "the avengers" or whole marvel spectrum, so to speak. But that's just my opinion. Thanks for an awesome video!

  • @juancarlosrodriguez5022
    @juancarlosrodriguez5022 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    14:53 I liked more the old class VII, because I had a stronger connection with them. The had more development time in the previous 2 games, and we got to know them in a more personal way through their time at school and through the field trips that led us to their homes and families.
    I also think that old class 7 is more relevant for the world of Zemuria, given their backgrounds... we have the heir to the Reinford Group, the heirs to high noble houses, ex jaeger with ties to important figures within those groups, the son of the governor of Heimdarl, the son of the most important general in Erebonia, etc.
    And I also feel as if old class 7 had more quality time dedicated to their development, even if their group was bigger than that of new class 7... perhaps it's because Cold Steel 3&4 were more focused on story development, than on character development.
    The thing is that my final Dream Team was formed by Rean, Laura, Alisa, Ema, Fie, Jusis, Musse and Juna. My favorite character from new class 7 was Juna, with Musse at second place; Altine was cute, but bland, Ash was too arrogant for my taste (but in the end of the game he showed he truly cared a lot about Rean), and Kurt was meh.
    Thanks for posting this analysis video, best regards.

    • @BLACKDISC
      @BLACKDISC  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can agree with your thoughts on OG Class VII in retrospect. Thanks for watching!

  • @Mundus66
    @Mundus66 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kevin and Rias was in Azure together for a hot second.

  • @regulator18E
    @regulator18E ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Alright who else is here because you dont have time for a CS4 replay before Hajimari this week 😂

  • @juancarlosrodriguez5022
    @juancarlosrodriguez5022 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:00:54 I thankfully got the chance to play the true ending immediately after the standard one, because I was shocked by it. I refused to accept that Rean could go like that... but I admit thtat the bad ending was masterfully played by Nihon Falcom, becaus it all happened too fast and I really wasn't expecting it, given the positive nature of everything surrounding Class 7 up to this point.
    In a way, I believe this bad ending was the true ending of the saga... the happy one was a gift they gave us all and a mean to justify the further expansion of the Erebonian Arch.
    PS: I didn't know that in order to unlock the true ending one had to play every sidequest in the game... I thought it was only linked to Tova's Sidequest, which had a high probability of beign ignored given the moment it emerged in the game.

  • @Pine2142
    @Pine2142 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Classic TH-cam not notifying me when this video was uploaded despite being subbed with bell on. Needless to say excited to see another great video from you and looking forward to all your future Trails videos!

  • @grunerkaktus
    @grunerkaktus 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thanks for the recap. I could never bring myself to finish IV. turns out i was almost at the end so I didnt miss much. I loved the first two but as soon as it started to become more "supernatural" I lost interest to a degree I couldnt continue. I wished the series wouldve stayed a normal political war/intrigue kind of story through the eyes of young military recruits. But the Japanese always have to push in some weird over-the-top-paranormal story element at some point. Maybe Ill do the whole series again once the following ones come to PC

  • @stevenlisten
    @stevenlisten 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can wait for trails of daybreak

  • @vinbarrientos2778
    @vinbarrientos2778 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this game, but the end almost ruined it for me. The build up in CS2 and CS3 all got undone and it was as if the game turned into a fairy tale which would have worked if the last 2 games did not have life-changing events for the characters. I would have loved if some events in CS3 was kept going into reverie and see how they affect the gang. Really looking forward to Trail to day break, i hope the characters there are half as good as the ones we got so far 😊

  • @ryansusanto6350
    @ryansusanto6350 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you know what..
    ishmelga face rean at the end almost vibe with FMA last episode

  • @ritikvibhani5557
    @ritikvibhani5557 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got halfway through the game gave up play the rest of the games in the series with the old games love them came back and feel little need to revisit the previous half of the story it is just all unnecessary interactions not respecting player

  • @zeromanjoel3609
    @zeromanjoel3609 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After being disappointed in cs3 hoping cs4 would be better i ended up dropping it in act 2. So now here i am watching this so i can go & play Reverie

  • @Focalors21
    @Focalors21 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    20:20 Ugh, I always wanted to know what was that song name. Its so epic and emotional.

    • @BLACKDISC
      @BLACKDISC  ปีที่แล้ว

      The track is called Blue Destination!

  • @johnle1535
    @johnle1535 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg what's taking so long, review Reverie please!!!!

    • @BLACKDISC
      @BLACKDISC  ปีที่แล้ว

      you're in luck. I just finished it a few days ago!

  • @robertdeffenbaugh9004
    @robertdeffenbaugh9004 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m excited for Reverie.

  • @kuliobataluma
    @kuliobataluma ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this vid series was fire great essays

  • @juliogomezplascencia6580
    @juliogomezplascencia6580 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After the crossbell saga, this arc of Cold was terrible for me. I almost gave up on Trails, I could only play the first Cold, the rest I saw better on TH-cam, and I still felt like I was robbed.
    I can't believe Cold and Crossbell are from the same playthrough. I hope Reviere improves the thing

  • @Pine2142
    @Pine2142 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:05:22 Kevin and Ries had a decent presense in Azure too? Ries was at the church in Crossbell and Kevin arrives when Wazy does his big reveal

  • @motorcitydan
    @motorcitydan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    based and respect for your kiseki series tier list at the end

  • @Haseo55
    @Haseo55 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really didn't like to say bye to Valimar. He wasn't just a weapon but also a friend and dare say it a member of class VII

  • @sonicfraisheya4028
    @sonicfraisheya4028 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    cs4 act 2 is exactly the same as cs2 conceptually. but executed much better. not a great execution but much much better than whatever cs2 did
    for one it didn't make me drop the game.
    as for the juna speech , i didn't find a problem with juna saying it. what i had problem was how the speech itself since it seemed "harsh" especially from juna herself . but its a small nitpick from an otherwise good act.

  • @Weltallgaia
    @Weltallgaia หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey I caught that xenogears music snuck in there.

  • @King0fS0RR0W9
    @King0fS0RR0W9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Like you're videos on cold steel. Could you do a character tier list or a character guide video for specific characters. That'll be really cool if you shared you're opinion on those topics.

    • @BLACKDISC
      @BLACKDISC  ปีที่แล้ว

      I actually have a series + character tier list on my second channel (and thanks for watching)!
      th-cam.com/video/HPCs4Xz10CY/w-d-xo.htmlh33m14s

    • @King0fS0RR0W9
      @King0fS0RR0W9 ปีที่แล้ว

      @BLACKDISC Thank you. I had no idea, and you're welcome

  • @Pine2142
    @Pine2142 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    51:27 Based for using Xenogears music

  • @beetlehorn
    @beetlehorn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Reverie video will be insane

  • @kakaoke4061
    @kakaoke4061 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I cant get me to continue CS4. I am stuck in Act 2 and the pacing is so boring for me.. nothing really happens

  • @nelsonl5501
    @nelsonl5501 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hated juna scene in general personally

  • @yorhamixta9528
    @yorhamixta9528 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Been waiting for this one! Points for no Alisa on the cover

    • @BLACKDISC
      @BLACKDISC  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you're not rocking with Alisa ⁉⁉
      (I get it though 😹)

  • @Pine2142
    @Pine2142 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    13:50 I don't know if it was intentional or not for the joke but you forgot Kevin loool

  • @stefannelson5785
    @stefannelson5785 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I really wish Juna had been the protagonist for this entire game or at least for the first 2-3 acts, with Rean coming back at the end xD.

    • @BLACKDISC
      @BLACKDISC  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same, I would've been 100% okay with that direction!

  • @jrpgaddict7726
    @jrpgaddict7726 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ty

  • @fabbbbbbb
    @fabbbbbbb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its Griannos

  • @unspilledmilk7888
    @unspilledmilk7888 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so hype

  • @KnightCrown
    @KnightCrown ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I also played through the whole game with gold hair altina

    • @BLACKDISC
      @BLACKDISC  ปีที่แล้ว

      you get it 🤝

  • @SantosOverlord
    @SantosOverlord ปีที่แล้ว +1

    at least new game + gives you infinite bond points

  • @bigteo123
    @bigteo123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    have you read "the house in fata morgana"? i think you would like it

    • @BLACKDISC
      @BLACKDISC  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not yet! It's definitely something I've been interested in, it's been on my backlog to read for years (I'm interested to hear why you ask)!

    • @bigteo123
      @bigteo123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BLACKDISC it’s just such a good series but it’s kind of hard to explain without spoilers, but it’s a sort of episodic in a sense that every chapter is in a completely different place and time although everything lines up perfectly, it uses perspective of different characters very well, seeing the same story told from multiple perspectives and finding the truth of the mystery by linking them all together is one of the most satisfying parts, lots of emotional moments because of how well fleshed out and relatable the characters are. Also it has the best music out of any media I have ever seen, each song portrays the emotion in the scene it’s played in perfectly.
      It’s just a perfect mystery and the plot twists are unexpected and satisfying, Great art aswell. I could just totally see you making a video essay on it (if you decide to read it)

  • @teckleedeyi
    @teckleedeyi ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Haha why is Elie redacted?

    • @BLACKDISC
      @BLACKDISC  ปีที่แล้ว

      Just a little inside joke, haha