Brainless Champions: Outdated or Essential? | League of Legends

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  • A week or so back I made a video on Manaless champions and their impact on League of Legends. So I decided to talk about another category of champions that also draw some attention: Brainless Champions! The topic of discussion for today will be whether or not they are outdated and need to be reworked, or are essential to the game just as much as complex champions.
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  • @VarsVerum
    @VarsVerum  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1890

    Vars: Leaves out Master Yi by accident
    Viewers: *So you have chosen... death.*

    • @gabcocasse7027
      @gabcocasse7027 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      I was about to tell that you forgot yi
      Lmao

    • @nebojsapetrovic2835
      @nebojsapetrovic2835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Exactly what I was thinking

    • @LoreGoshi
      @LoreGoshi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Well, you forgot also Malzahar and his kit which includes 1 button

    • @oklemonn
      @oklemonn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      YES

    • @stevekargbo5539
      @stevekargbo5539 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yi sqishy stun him or burst him

  • @alejandropetit6573
    @alejandropetit6573 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1771

    rammus main here, i like going fast, killing pirate gun lady by pressing 2 buttons and buying ice fist thing to become big turtle
    life is ok

  • @MelonSeedOfficial
    @MelonSeedOfficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3051

    Nasus in lore: *incredible tactician who worked his way up the army through skill and good judgement*
    Nasus in game: _bonk smol men to bonk bigger men later_

    • @zealotoftheorchard9853
      @zealotoftheorchard9853 3 ปีที่แล้ว +255

      "Bonk small men to bonk bigger men later" sounds like a troll proverb

    • @vinaayagamkarunagaran3439
      @vinaayagamkarunagaran3439 3 ปีที่แล้ว +134

      in conclusion, bonk your way to enemy nexus and don't look at map

    • @olsenfernandes3634
      @olsenfernandes3634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +141

      Nah, he has good judgement. He's investing in his Q to get more *Stonks* later

    • @apollyon1311
      @apollyon1311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@olsenfernandes3634 *More bonks

    • @olsenfernandes3634
      @olsenfernandes3634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      @@apollyon1311 more bonks is separate.
      *The more the Stonks, the harder the Bonks*

  • @DEFxRECON
    @DEFxRECON 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1604

    We’re all brainless for subjecting ourselves to this torturous game

    • @randominternetperson9569
      @randominternetperson9569 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      nicage funni

    • @martinfreemon7134
      @martinfreemon7134 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      And we're soulless for continuing to play, despite it being torture

    • @XAn0nymousX0
      @XAn0nymousX0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Very based and very real

    • @MangaGamified
      @MangaGamified 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      While me here, waiting for even a more brainless mode -- URF 🤣

    • @peak2381
      @peak2381 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cry more...

  • @TheCaptainstupendous
    @TheCaptainstupendous 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1772

    Hopefully this video comes out before Garen mains are done spinning and Nasus mains are done farming...I think you're safe.

    • @HamsterPants522
      @HamsterPants522 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      I used to one trick garen for years. I'll be the first to say that I don't want him to be as brainless as he is, because if he's more skill expressive, then I can be rewarded more for being good at him. It's never very reassuring to know that you main a champion which can't even sustain a decent winrate in challenger because the abilities of said champion are too simple.

    • @paltil
      @paltil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@abcdefgh-kt9fx Both Camille and Nasus are braindead. It's easier to snowball as Camille, but it's easier for Nasus to stay passive and progressively get stronger as long as his team doesn't int.

    • @Hellothere-ss4jq
      @Hellothere-ss4jq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@abcdefgh-kt9fx if you've played the game for a while your perception of champion difficulty is completely different from that of someone who hasn't even figured out what turret plates are. To a complete newbie Camille is harder than Nasus

    • @tommihalonen6471
      @tommihalonen6471 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Done farming??? What's that supposed to mean?

    • @mr.sennin7923
      @mr.sennin7923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The grind for stonks dont stop

  • @cohoslash5893
    @cohoslash5893 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1163

    We call champs like Nasus or Garen brainless but we gotta look at the true problem in league
    Its league

    • @vikeghawlimz965
      @vikeghawlimz965 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Based EBF fan

    • @achilleaskakafikas7234
      @achilleaskakafikas7234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      EBFFFFF

    • @gunlyte4661
      @gunlyte4661 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No no no we have to dig deeper...
      *Its the Items*

    • @soul_bolt
      @soul_bolt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      These s11 items make me mixer feelings. Some of them are good, and feel nice. But some of them make me feel like I got outplayed by 3k gold :/ (stride, shieldbow, galeforce,...)

    • @pawepajak7142
      @pawepajak7142 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@soul_bolt eclipse

  • @eliaprosdocimi5880
    @eliaprosdocimi5880 2 ปีที่แล้ว +205

    Nasus 1000 stacks Bonks adc : "Wow Riot added new type of minion"

  • @sharkguy666
    @sharkguy666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +272

    The only reason Viego is dynamic is because of his passive. His entire kit is like morde level simplicity.

    • @WolffQuam
      @WolffQuam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      And the fact that he can spam his ult free with his passive... God please what the fuck is that

    • @garretwoeller7669
      @garretwoeller7669 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well I mean the dynamics is really his variable stun time on his W and his Mist his Q is spam sure but that's like saying GP Q or Yasuo Q is spam it's made to be spammed.

    • @iamactualxenith3955
      @iamactualxenith3955 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's a good thing a passive ability is part of a kit

    • @gnocchithegreatest
      @gnocchithegreatest ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@iamactualxenith3955 so basically:
      Blitzkrang gets a shield when low, but its pretty weak, and only happens every 90 seconds.
      While viego, on top of normal kill bemefits, gets 3 new abilities he can use with no cd, a recast of his ult, becomes untargetable and heals half his health.

    • @mordekaiser378
      @mordekaiser378 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      only big difference is that viego isn't as cool

  • @pocket5783
    @pocket5783 3 ปีที่แล้ว +659

    As a Veigar main
    I can say, farming AP and then pressing R on the 0/20 khazix in the enemy team requires a lot of skill and microplay.

    • @ZED_117
      @ZED_117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      To be fair he teaches you a lot about wave management and warding (since that's pretty much the only thing that can save you from a gank)

    • @AltiusMax
      @AltiusMax 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Veigar is a infinite scaling champ, part of the "weak early, but ticking bombs late" champs. Playing a safe early is a skill most players lack due to the agressive meta league have nowadays, also.... U have a "execution" without a indicator, so u have to KNOW the thresholds by instict... that's another skill.

    • @Dingdong2730
      @Dingdong2730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      What R? Isnt it called the "outplay button"?

    • @AltiusMax
      @AltiusMax 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@Dingdong2730 I like to see it as the "win fight" botton

    • @remito7839
      @remito7839 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      As a fellow Veigar player his main "skill" you need is to deal with 90% of your enemies having a dash. Meaning your W and E are hard to land and if they dodge those you have no real way of fighting back or escaping unless it's really late and you can 2-shot them with Q and have like 2 sec CD on your abilitys.

  • @Poxyquotl
    @Poxyquotl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +497

    Well, I think simple champions are good for the game so long as they have playstyles that encourage interaction. Malphite I think is in dire need of something that forces him to do ANYTHING in the landing phase besides spam his targeted Q and run away until you’re 30% HP and then he can point blank R you. Nasus (other than E max Comet) has at least a win condition that puts him at some sort of risk and Garen’s passive has CLEAR counterplay in the landing phase.

    • @hqhuy931
      @hqhuy931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      malphite struggles against non-mana lane opponents. his q cost is really high. plus he cant do anything much if any other top lane all-in him because his dueling damage is very bad

    • @Poxyquotl
      @Poxyquotl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@hqhuy931 except he has really good self peel tools? His Q steals MS and his E nukes attack speed, I’m not saying he doesn’t have BAD matchups, I think it’s fine playing Renekton into him or some one else with both sustain and mobility, but realistically you only ever have Kill pressure before he gets an armor item or two. Most of the time once he has tabis bramble, good luck ever killing him in lane+ the utility on his Ult combined with the fact that he’s an immovable rock in lane means he simultaneously prevents you from getting off the ground and carrying and is still extremely useful while on low resources himself. I’m just not a big fan of the champ in it’s current state, I think it’s GOOD that there’s simple champions, especially ones designed for autofill, I just don’t think his play style is very healthy for the game.

    • @hqhuy931
      @hqhuy931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Poxyquotl i think simple champs are a great way to learn aspects such as itemization, macro, map awareness, warding and such and not have to worry about mechanics. I think mal is an example of what a tank really is: explosive engage, strong mid game, bulky and tough and able to stand his own. I hate mal matchup up top as well, but he's more commonly found support and most top laners prefer fighters rather than tanks anyways

    • @harrysliyoko8809
      @harrysliyoko8809 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @Paris Hart You can poke him a little bit if your champ can do and if the Garen stands too far back he misses gold and exp, there is the counterplay .

    • @Dingdong2730
      @Dingdong2730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @Paris Hart Constantly trading into him? Garen is lowkey pretty weak early on, at least compared to his peers. Garen's sustain early on is the only thing he has got going for him along with waveclear.
      The passive is pretty shit in the earlygame, Darius with the highest base health regen in the game basically has the same regen as Garen with his passive, so it isnt like its massively unfair to play against, at least I dont feel that way.
      The worst lanes in top I think are champions that you cant interact with as a melee champion, that would be stuff like Malphite, Tahm Kench, Akali and Urgot, where Malphite and Akali interact with you like they are ranged champions, but they are not. Tahm Kench and Urgot are just massively unfair to play against for all melee champs since if they hit you with 1 ability in the early levels, your lane is over pretty much done and only if you play some hyper scaling splitpusher like Jax, Nasus or Fiora do you ever have light at the end of the tunnel of actually winning a 1v1 if you wait till 20 minutes.
      In higher elo champions like Gangplank and Jayce also become uninteractive laners, but at least they are absolutely useless champions if you set them behind early and dont have to respect their poke.

  • @Nuclearburrit0
    @Nuclearburrit0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +337

    This is why I like TF. His kit is extremely simple yet has lots of skill expression regardless through macro play alone.

    • @codeman3788
      @codeman3788 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      the main champion belonging to arguably the best solo queue player of all time, dopa

    • @adrianbunea2006
      @adrianbunea2006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      Average TF main after shoving wave, ulting bot lane and point and click stunning someone: "I'm like, so good at macro, my dude."

    • @goldenmemes51
      @goldenmemes51 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@adrianbunea2006 shen does that better this season since tf hasn’t been alive meta for long tome lol

    • @adrianbunea2006
      @adrianbunea2006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@goldenmemes51 Shen doesn't have a guaranteed stun, his ganks are not as offensive, and most times he needs to react to someone about to die, TF decides he wants to go bot, he doesn't have to react and pay attention to the HP of teammates 24/7.

    • @calvintuano557
      @calvintuano557 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      oh you mean shove mid wave then ult to bot & then catch Adc with a point &click stun? yeah really macro plays

  • @Hethalean
    @Hethalean 3 ปีที่แล้ว +256

    I wonder why people talk about how there's little counterplay to a fed 'brainless' champion... How do you counterplay those 'skilled' champs (let's take akali) when she's fed? or kat? I think it's the same argument.
    When a champion can do so much, it's not on you to counterplay... it is on them to mess up. I don't think that's any better.

    • @ZED_117
      @ZED_117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      Imo overloaded champions are worse than "braindead" for that exact reason

    • @Fableruin
      @Fableruin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      You can dodge literally all of akalis abilities, you can dodge all of katas daggers and then they are useless because they didnt deal damage You cannot dodge garen q or malphites q or Annie's q or so many others.

    • @LPh976
      @LPh976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      @@Fableruin well if the problem is a champ that must face bonk all your skillshots in order to deal you damage, i think the problem is on you.
      I can understand that it's impossible to run from a tryndamere, but otherwise you can just play around any mundo/garen/malphite/cho/nasus/trundle etc.
      Moreover, the next time you dodge an akali ult just post the video, i wanna see it.

    • @perilousloki4712
      @perilousloki4712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      @@Fableruin you telling me it's easy to dodge akalis skillshots all the time without scripting?
      Also, akalis ult is a point and click. 🤡

    • @xBinyWolf
      @xBinyWolf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Overloaded champs are bad if their kit is too broad. Kaisa is overloaded but she still has to run to your face and unloading her CDs and right click you she just has more methods to do that than the average adc and all of them are weaker then adc with 1 strong tool but combined are good meanwhile yone is overloaded and bad because not only he has the best trade tool in the game(his e) but not only that he has a shield, aoe cc and massive mixed damage. If a garen gets ahead you can quit toplane because he can't fuck up he will literally run you down but being a simple champ you can avoid getting stomped because he can do one thing meanwhile kat has a lot of ways to stomp you but she can fuck up really hard even when ahead. A fed Kata that jumps into 3 people that have at least 1 hard cc has to avoid it or even she dies no matter how fed she is if you see a fed garen running towards the same 3 people they just have to run.

  • @sonnguyenhong3825
    @sonnguyenhong3825 3 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    You gotta love when the master yi runs at the speed of fucking light to demote me to bronze.

    • @codys7436
      @codys7436 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      *laughs in Untargetable*

    • @mikepocock5425
      @mikepocock5425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Gotta love when a yi runs at me at the speed of light and I fiddle fear him back to his base xD

    • @AlryFireBlade
      @AlryFireBlade 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      while be in alpha strike 8=% of the Time and Insible 10% of the Time thanks to Draktarr.

    • @TheCowai
      @TheCowai 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      pick something with target CC (Leona Q, Fiddle fear, etc). CC'd yi = dead yi

    • @AlryFireBlade
      @AlryFireBlade 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheCowai Fiddle fear can be dodged, my Lulu Polymorph too.
      Leona Q is Melee, so it's not that easy to come in range before next alpha strike.

  • @bloodravenn8305
    @bloodravenn8305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +449

    I think brainless or simple champions should exist, for beginners to learn the game with and for people who aren't gifted with good mechanics but still like to play the game.

    • @lazarblanusa6622
      @lazarblanusa6622 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Ye, but it kinda sucks loving to play a champion and knowing you are being placed in lower ranks by your champion pick and not your skill expression...

    • @markossmith8895
      @markossmith8895 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      @@lazarblanusa6622 then if rank really matters to you, choose a different champion

    • @versaceVVVV
      @versaceVVVV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      nasus is busted do not lie

    • @paltil
      @paltil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Agreed. Brainless champs have very simple kits which makes it easy to learn, but they're not broken because their simple kit makes them predictable to play against aswell.

    • @lazarblanusa6622
      @lazarblanusa6622 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@markossmith8895 how does that fix anything? I ask a legit question and you just say choose a different champion, this should be a game about players skill, not champions skill, imagine if that was the case, in top ranks you would see like 5 champs per role, of which 2 would be banned and 2 would be played, does that sound like good game balance and design?

  • @mortes883
    @mortes883 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Mundo is straightup the only brainless champion which u wont get flamed for playing cause mundo goes where he pleases

    • @IronMan-mj1kx
      @IronMan-mj1kx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Mundo is brainless.
      Literally

    • @mortes883
      @mortes883 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@IronMan-mj1kx yes

  • @BWeb
    @BWeb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +297

    People hate Garen because they’re jealous that he press q e w and then r and kills them whereas they have to flash, dash, smash their head into the keyboard, go untargetable, flash mastery, ignite you to kill you. Why go through all that work to achieve the same thing?

    • @willymh4986
      @willymh4986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      People is not jealous about that. People know that a full AS Garen, or Full Crit Garen does that, but at the same time he builds full tank and the results are the same, so actually people is complaining about his W which makes him extremely tanky just for existing and dealing damages that he shouldn't be doing.
      And is not only Garen, is all the tanks and Bruisers.

    • @doctordungus7774
      @doctordungus7774 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Based and redpilled

    • @Valigarmanda
      @Valigarmanda 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      That's exactly the point. It makes people feel shit.
      Why would you bother investing time and effort learning a mechanical champ when Garen can 100-0 you in one rotation using only your mouse? Not everyone wants to be a monkey playing Garen all day. He's honestly not exciting to play as nor against.

    • @stevieboi3319
      @stevieboi3319 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I don't think garen can do that unless he has a good early game, so clearly he did something right if he is able to 100-0 you late game, I mean with irelia you can still carry using your abilities late game even if you aren't fed, but at some point one e and q and 2 autos do the same thing late game, the only difference is how fed irelia, same for garen, like every champ he can't do anything unless he is fed.

    • @szalyn8849
      @szalyn8849 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Valigarmanda wdym not exciting to play?
      I love internally screaming
      "DEMACIAAA"
      "FOR THE CAUSE!!"
      "JUSTICE!"
      Every time I spin on them or R them, I can easily focus on macro because you can easily execute "Garen combos"

  • @ruuji.
    @ruuji. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +417

    Garen is cool yo. He has a second passive where people forget he has an execute in his kit and get angry for dying to it

    • @carbonbeaker409
      @carbonbeaker409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I feel that

    • @olsenfernandes3634
      @olsenfernandes3634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      It's funnier when tank players forget that it's based off of missing health too.

    • @instrumentaltiger5633
      @instrumentaltiger5633 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@bakamitai3462 Its an execute if you are under 2k health tho

    • @shamrockgaming9505
      @shamrockgaming9505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      450+30% missing health kills most adcs after a single q

    • @alexdahyeen9850
      @alexdahyeen9850 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      What frustrates me about Garen is the union of many tilting things that you can include in a champion, the Q is a silence, and while you're in the silence you watch your bar quickly go down with his E and then boom, without being able to cast any of your abilities he Rs your ass, and its really not necessary to be fed with him to be able to do that

  • @michaskrzypczak3262
    @michaskrzypczak3262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    I think Soraka is misunderstood. Her Q isn't used as "chip damage" (I mean - it's not it's main use). It's actually used to gain the benefits of Rejuvenation and heal both yourself and your allies a lot better. Soraka's healing from W becomes A LOT stronger if she just hits her Q first. I feel like a lot of people don't know that, but it's actually a huge part of her kit that makes her a little harder that people think she is.

    • @sharp_iodine2737
      @sharp_iodine2737 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Soraka is not brainless. She has a simple kit but requires a LOT of positioning and split second decisions. She's always dancing at the edge of life and death. Everyone will focus the Soraka and she has to still be in range of her Q or lose out a lot of health to heal people.
      Her only defence is the movespeed she gets from hitting Q.
      Not to mention GW makes her work much harder.

    • @sugoidude7823
      @sugoidude7823 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      I have no idea why he chose to Soraka as a brainless support instead of Sona. I have mastery 7 on both of them, and Soraka has a really high skill ceiling, needs constant map awareness, needs to stay safe but still land Q, a lot of different factors. With Sona you literally mash your Q and still do half of the enemy's health bar with one ability, and mash all your other keys alongside that.

    • @sharp_iodine2737
      @sharp_iodine2737 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sugoidude7823 Sona is a lot easier but she doesn't do that much dmg lol. She is literally a minion now with all the nerfs she got. No damage whatsoever.

    • @sighman9209
      @sighman9209 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sharp_iodine2737 Sona has low skill floor, but high skill ceiling, in regards to her power cords among other things.
      As far as Soraka goes... she started out as the healing enchanter, but was reworked into a counterintuitive mess, which does poorly into both engage and poke lanes. The latter of which she is meant to counter.

    • @sharp_iodine2737
      @sharp_iodine2737 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sighman9209 it's just grievous wounds. It completely ruined her and deleted her from the game. It shouldn't be so accessible and so oppressive.

  • @nobody27
    @nobody27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    "Harder Champions are easier to balance." Riot trying to balance Aphelios...

    • @kepler4192
      @kepler4192 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the reason why he said it's easier to balance because there's a lot of things that needs to be changed to get him to borderline op, while champs like garen you only need to change his Q's recharge or base damage and you got yourself a top tier champ

    • @soncscoot9929
      @soncscoot9929 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Patch 99.9 Aphelios Changes:
      Passive - Weapons of The Faithful:
      Attack Damage: 5-30 -> Removed
      Attack Speed: 6%-30% -> Removed
      Lethality: 10-60 -> 10-180
      "Why not?"

    • @victorleon67
      @victorleon67 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Azir crying in the corner

    • @sighman9209
      @sighman9209 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Azir, Kalista, Aphelios, etc. The amount of overloaded champions Riot gave up on balancing is much higher than the simple ones(only really old Yorick)

    • @bacettogang992
      @bacettogang992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He s wr is low bc people suck , not bc the champ is bad...

  • @osiris3676
    @osiris3676 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    for the brainless kit vlad has he has a pretty steep learning curve, most people feed on him for their first games... i think that the thing with him is that all his statcheckiness comes later in the game compared to most of the other stupid champs

    • @SH-ry2xi
      @SH-ry2xi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly

    • @brainsmasher3903
      @brainsmasher3903 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      On tryndamere too

    • @hanshysher6266
      @hanshysher6266 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He is definetly not brainless

    • @osiris3676
      @osiris3676 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hanshysher6266 i mained vlad for 3 seasons

    • @hanshysher6266
      @hanshysher6266 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@osiris3676 mained him since season 6

  • @GhostOfAmsterdam69
    @GhostOfAmsterdam69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    I mean I feel like many “brainless” champs have to have good macro because they have low skill expression and low outplay potential.

    • @augustomegalindo
      @augustomegalindo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      every champ needs good macro lol

    • @carnivorze1052
      @carnivorze1052 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      TF is a perfect exemple of a braindead champion in term of mechanics but that requier a lot of macro knowledge.

    • @olsenfernandes3634
      @olsenfernandes3634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@augustomegalindo But not every champ has a low skill ceiling and low outplay potential.

    • @deviant315l6
      @deviant315l6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@carnivorze1052 yeah but that’s the whole point of TF, macro. That’s the main diff between a good one and a bad one. A brain dead garen can just keep rushing at people or towers and kill them. TF changes the whole micro thing to macro that’s why he isn’t as brain dead as you think.

    • @Justin73791
      @Justin73791 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@augustomegalindo Yeah but each champ has a different amount of reliance on macro. Generally the more tools you have the more you can outplay a poorly positioned team-fight.
      An impressive feat in it's own right, but it means you can let your macro game slide a bit on outplay champs.

  • @guggh5798
    @guggh5798 3 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    Unpopular opinion:
    Brainless champ should be given new, still simple, mechanics Instead of buffing their numbers and making them become statsticks

    • @kelzhikaru
      @kelzhikaru 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Giving that Riot doesn't give a F about old champs, it gonna be a long time until all of them get a rework/mini rework.

    • @HamsterPants522
      @HamsterPants522 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I've been saying the same thing for years. No one listens.

    • @evilerroryt8448
      @evilerroryt8448 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The thing is if a simple champ becomes op then it will be put into pro play because in pro play a lot of the players prefer simpler or comfortable picks go play so kinda hard to balance sometimes.

    • @Machiroable
      @Machiroable 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It wont work, because Riot would just give then dashes and some gimmick to play around.

    • @asgard_teight
      @asgard_teight 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@evilerroryt8448 I thought not a long ago... What if Annie i.e. would get work range of 700 instead of 600? Would she become a pro pick/ban champ because of her boosted base damage numbers and VERY reliable CC with damage like Udyr?

  • @gabe5760
    @gabe5760 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I don’t think Vladimir should be on this list. He’s a lot harder to play than his kit seems at first glance.

    • @Nazuiko
      @Nazuiko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      This; I saw the list and was immensely confused why one of the highest skillcap champs in the game is on the list. Because Q is PnC ? Okay but Vlad's E and R are much more difficult to understand and optimize; if you dont read the tooltips and practice, you wont be playing Vlad well.
      The reason a 1s buff on his Q has a major impact on playrate/power is because the cooldown is already extremely low.
      Kai'sa E cooldown is no lower than 10, and she doesn't build a ton of CDR. Vlad Q gets as low as 4, and he stacks TONS of CDR, hitting 40%/60-70+ AH very early, bringing the CD down to like 2.4s; compounded by the fact that the ability has a "stack" mechanic, so its more like lowering the CD from 10s (6) to 8s (4.8).
      Look at what happened to Kassadin when his R CD was reduced by *HALF* a second.

    • @ravenous9577
      @ravenous9577 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Nazuiko Honestly I feel that Q being point and click is somewhat of a drawback as much as it is a benefit. So many times have people walked into bush for 0.1 second and cancel cast time. So many times has akali gone into shroud and all you can do is E.

  • @sleghart
    @sleghart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    sea bottom segue hitting like 😩👌

  • @BrunoFrancaA
    @BrunoFrancaA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    They are absolutely needed. Both for new players and for more experienced players who are lacking in the motor skills and combo department. By playing a champion like Garen you get to focus simply on the objectives and not on the specific combos and tiny bits of expertise and instead play the actual game. People are seeking different things.

    • @BoneWalker
      @BoneWalker 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I just don't want to play a champ with a small book that pops up on screen anytime I hover the ability.

  • @NoshuHyena
    @NoshuHyena 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    The paradox of mechanically branless champions is that most of them require higher skill in other areas. Nasus needs to have perfect wave management and good macro or else he ultrafeeds, and those are a tough learning curve to get over. Tryndamere needs to have a nuanced understanding of split pushing or he's useless mid and late game.
    I'd argue that the skill floor on these champions is harder to overcome than many champs who can bring value through mechanical competence alone.

  • @guest_zzroman2076
    @guest_zzroman2076 3 ปีที่แล้ว +312

    I disagree with not reworking Annie, she's just too outdated and doesn't reflect the modern state of mages, she honestly plays more like an assassin jumping in at the right moment and oneshoting someone, I think Lux is more fitting for a beginner mage since her skillshots are pretty big and long range and her ultimate is not that punishing due to its low cd.

    • @Jojoroe
      @Jojoroe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Mmm there's a lot of mages that play like assassin's though. Ahri, Syndra are good examples but most mages can play like assassin's. Assassin's are a bit different in that they go in at right timing and jump out or have some form of getting in ability which Annie doesn't have. Zeds shadows, Talons Jump, Akali R and W to name a few.

    • @naser3000x
      @naser3000x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      she has a lot of noob friendly mechanics and she is in between a mage and a battle mage because of her low range.
      if you would rework her what would you do? she seems perfectly fine to me

    • @user-pr1dh2bw6k
      @user-pr1dh2bw6k 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@naser3000x Her general kit seems nice, but her E does feel quite out of place. I don't know what I would add to it myself, but it begs the question of what is the point of the shield on a burst mage.

    • @jabberstock1375
      @jabberstock1375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@user-pr1dh2bw6k speaking from experience, maybe as a light gap closer (ms) while making engages barely less dangerous. Honestly though, I just use it to either stack the stun passive or if I'm playing support to put it on the adc (jhin works quite well with it, actually)

    • @guest_zzroman2076
      @guest_zzroman2076 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mainly just make her Q a skillshot with more reward but still easy to land, maybe letting it pass through targets and having more range, and making her E explode like Ivern but with more damage instead of a slow to synergize with Tibbers or other teammates, and also making Tibbers's ai automatically target whoever champion Annie is attacking instead of manually having to control him if you don't want him to randomly start slapping minions, which is too hard for a new player to comprehend.

  • @prod.arcsyne2990
    @prod.arcsyne2990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    I love brainless champions, I think too many players focus on their champs specific kit when they should be thinking about the team's win conditions and macro. If your spending so much time learning you champion you wont spend alot of time understanding the game. Its cool to be a fed riven 12/1 in lane but if you never show up for baron or spread your lead, what was it for?

    • @tediop1330
      @tediop1330 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      My friend is a 520k point garen main. He is 10+ kill every game litelary but he has no macro skills. He just go ugabuga spin

    • @prod.arcsyne2990
      @prod.arcsyne2990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@tediop1330 lmao i cant wait till he learns about roaming

    • @tediop1330
      @tediop1330 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@prod.arcsyne2990 i told him. Thats he has no macro. But he just never helps :l

    • @josueceh9569
      @josueceh9569 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is why I am an otp Warwick JG main.

    • @WintersEnvy
      @WintersEnvy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tediop1330 dude same
      It’s the reason I went into top lane

  • @johangelrodriguez6835
    @johangelrodriguez6835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Well, they are necessary. Not everyone has the time to learn how to play effectively a high skill champion like Akali, so it is fine that those noob friendly champions like Garen, Talon, Malzahar, etc exist. It gives a wellcome to the game for the begginers
    Also, I added Talon here (even tho his difficulty is 2/3 according to League client) he is easily the most brainless assassin in the game, his four abilities are very straight forward, and his identity is set as a Slayer who likes to roam around the map. Talon is begginer friendly, and we can say he teaches the newcomers how to roam effectively (said by a Talon Main)
    EDIT: I should've clarify: he is the easiest and straight forward of the midlane assassins

    • @naser3000x
      @naser3000x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      seems kind of biased coming from a talon main, i would say something similar about rengar because i main rengar too and used him to climb to plat.
      i think all assassin champs other than master yi shouldn't be considered brainless because they are very punishing if you mess up and force you learn a lot about the game and the champ to be able to play them somewhat fine. (i suck at playing talon)
      compared to "brainless champs" you dont even need to read your ability to understand what they mostly do and can be used by a guy playing for the first time

    • @Aschelorian
      @Aschelorian 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My first main was Talon and he really does teach a lot about roaming and map awareness
      3 months later I switched to Camille and learned her mechanics and game mechanics at the same time. Learned to flank, splitpush, engage, TP bot, locking down high priority targets, and win lane.

    • @phoenixflamegames1
      @phoenixflamegames1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      League diffeculty grade is bullshit. They say things like master yi being harder than kindred.😂

    • @ScarletStarManor
      @ScarletStarManor 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They need to be less effective though

    • @saki453
      @saki453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      >noob friendly
      >talon
      I don't think any assassin is noob friendly. Too much room for error.
      This is almost like telling someone to play Azir instead of Ahri as their first midlaner.

  • @braylenlevi3229
    @braylenlevi3229 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I think brainless champs sometimes have to have big brain people piloting them for them to really shine. Seeing as they are so linear, they sometimes have to go above and beyond masking what they want or need to do so they can bait people into a trap. That or have a bunch of build diversity.

  • @inkromancer_studios
    @inkromancer_studios 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    For every Aphelios, there has to be a Sett.
    But seriously though. One thing that made old school League so appealing way back when was the fact that all of the champions were so basic. Each champion was easy to pick up and use, and their kits were so simple it came down to the players to be creative with them. Old school League was exhilarating not because the champions were 200 years, but because the players were. So yeah, not only should we keep the brainless champs, but hell, I'd argue Riot needs to dial it back moving forward. Creativity and fluidity should be the exception, not the norm.

    • @BoneWalker
      @BoneWalker 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Giving nearly every champ a turn speed like in dota would be hilarious for the reactions alone.

  • @eVill420
    @eVill420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    13:19 the vladimir Q cooldown buff was also really huge because lategame with all the haste you get Vlad's q is on a 2.5 second cooldown but thanks to this buff it went to 2 seconds. keeping in mind this is his main damage tool that's a huge change. basically makes him deal 20% more damage.

    • @putin2012
      @putin2012 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      well, much less than 20% damage, like 5-7%. but damage not the main buff, its healing that matters more.

  • @reset6292
    @reset6292 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    They're essential and healthy for the game until you get wrecked by them in lane then they're bullshit unhealthy design failures and are 100% nothing but a mistake

    • @olsenfernandes3634
      @olsenfernandes3634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Then we have to go and complain on reddit because a guy playing a brain dead champion destroyed us who are playing "Hard Champions".
      Like, why is that even allowed to happen? We should just win automatically!
      Were playing a champion that's _HARD TO PLAY_ and _REWARDS YOU FOR MASTERING THE CHAMPION_ right? So I should definately automatically win without trying right?

    • @zares2660
      @zares2660 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      if you get stomped by a braindead champion that mean u made a mistake cause of their braindead design they can't do other thing than hope u made a mistake to capitalize on on the other side if u made a mistake the champion is really good a punishing them like a garen urgot or vlad

    • @Tarik.
      @Tarik. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@olsenfernandes3634 REEE DARIUS KILLED ME AT LVL1 BRAINDEAD CHAMP UNBALANCED I LET HIM AA ME 5 TIMES WITH HIS 0.6 ATTACK SPEED HOW IS THAT FAIR FUCKING SHIT COMPANY SHIT GAME

    • @Dingdong2730
      @Dingdong2730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tarik. It is a bit unfair that champions like Darius and Urgot have such strong lvl 1s that they can zone you off farming the first wave if you have no ranged abilities to deter them from standing between your melees and casters.

    • @Tarik.
      @Tarik. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Dingdong2730 But isnt that part if their gimmick, they make early levels hell for you and force you to play it safety, you may be behind 12~ cs but its much better than giving em 400g advantage. Plus an experienced player will know how to get the most from a trade even when the majority of the time its in their favor.

  • @ottoback5375
    @ottoback5375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    As a jax tryndamere and vladimir player i feel personally attac..
    No i dont i dont like having to practice my champs for 200 years to get a 50% winrate

    • @throg4657
      @throg4657 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I would encourage you to try picking up a high skill ceiling champion and actively try to get better with them for atleast a little while (encourage, not demand, you shouldn’t if you don’t want ofc). I decided i would learn lee sin when s11 started, and honestly nothing in league has been as satisfying as when he ”clicked” for me and i started being able to pull off insecs and ward-jump combos regularly, it didn’t even take that long either, maybe a few days or so. can understand playing simple champions, heck Mordekaiser, Sett and Darius are three of my favourite champions, but going outside your comfort zone here and there can be really rewarding sometimes!

    • @ottoback5375
      @ottoback5375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@throg4657 pretty coincidental you comment this because two days ago or so i started playing lee sin top in normals for fun
      Im still horrible but the times i manage to combo correctly and get the kill is indeed very satisfying

    • @bacettogang992
      @bacettogang992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@throg4657 i agree with u , i started playing akali the last week , even tho i m potato rank , after 10h of gameplay and training i always get a good kda x then i realize my bot is 5 12 6 and 4 12 4 with samira and seraphine and i lose

    • @mistywww3199
      @mistywww3199 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ottoback5375 yeah im so happy lee is viable as a laner the champ is so fun but having to play jungle to get value out of him was kinda annoying

    • @throg4657
      @throg4657 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mistywww3199 i still prefer to play him as a jungler personaly, but then again i haven’t played him in lane much.

  • @starwingz
    @starwingz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    I am a garen main
    Mommy just picked me up from elementary school
    I go home and walk to my computer
    Should League of legends or Roblox?
    I see the funny yelling spinny man
    league of legends I decide
    I go click on the icon with the big L
    I love playing Garen I said with an enthusiastic voice
    I click the big blue button
    I start queing for top my favorite role
    I lock in my favorite champ Garen
    I am loaded in and ready to spin
    I managed to get a solokill at level 3 because skill
    Enemy get very mad at me for playing garen
    I sad 😦
    I click the letter E on my keyboard and the funny man spins yells DEMACIA
    I happy again 🙂
    I love garen

    • @cjjackson8309
      @cjjackson8309 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lmao

    • @sammartin6914
      @sammartin6914 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      i can’t tell if this comment is meant to be anti garen or pro garen lol

    • @yannickrobert5406
      @yannickrobert5406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sammartin6914 why not both!?

    • @kapitan19969838
      @kapitan19969838 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sammartin6914 Pro Garen of course

    • @doctordungus7774
      @doctordungus7774 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Better than playing Akali

  • @williamatlas6916
    @williamatlas6916 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I think easy champs are essential, I've introduced a few new people to the game and the simple champs made it easier to teach them. I learned the game on Twitch and Senna so it took me a bit extra time to understand how to play, but once I got into Leona, it was a lot less to worry about all at once. She has a consistent combo and a consistent goal of engaging and locking down then taking damage and not dying.

    • @Vario65bit
      @Vario65bit ปีที่แล้ว

      You're not gonna get any new players of the easiest champion ends up being something like Syndra

  • @Mwushs
    @Mwushs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    So you are telling me master yi ain't a brainless champion. The q guy. Ok

    • @sirboblet2480
      @sirboblet2480 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      TRUE

    • @olsenfernandes3634
      @olsenfernandes3634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Great Yi's use Q and W to not get bursted down and dodge CC and follow enemies through their dashes and Flashes.

    • @cicchio5128
      @cicchio5128 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      For me yi isn t skillfull but needs a thinking brain or you will fed in no time

    • @TsunKnight
      @TsunKnight 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He did say it’s not a full list

    • @Mwushs
      @Mwushs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@cicchio5128 bruh I can give my nephew who's 2 years old to play master yi.

  • @wynvernheraldofdragons9901
    @wynvernheraldofdragons9901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I think it is essential to have these champs for beginners as well as for people who enjoy straightforward gameplay. There are all types of video gamers that each like a style, and understandable and straightforward does it for some. I think if anything, some of the champs simply need a visual update rather than a rework, and the visuals will make them more pleasing to the audience who enjoys them

  • @jinsator4616
    @jinsator4616 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im glad you gave me and the other 2 shiek mains a shoutout!

  • @supremefox1018
    @supremefox1018 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video and all plus good taste in music(sonic) 10/10 content

  • @pflaumi123
    @pflaumi123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great video as always, but i have to disagree at the statement at 13:42.
    The excample u took is like comparing apples with bananas. If you dont change the main thing of their kits the impact changes have are marginal. For Vladimir his Q is THE thing since he spams it on cd, while the Kaisa one is whatever.
    If i wanted to rly nerf Kaisa there are multiple single things u can tackle. For example make her ult have a minimum range so she can only use it to go in. Which would be more interesting than nerfing her Q dmg. I bet both of these thing would impact her performance significantly.

  • @tonguepop9453
    @tonguepop9453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    they are definitely needed. especially for harder roles, the amount of people ive had try out jungle with someone like kindred is ridiculous. but i think the problem with them is how do you make a simple champ relevant in all aspects of the game without making them overpowered?

    • @tehrik0020
      @tehrik0020 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      By giving them some qualities that build towards skill expression without throwing in mechanics, a prime example of this being Poppy: she has a very streamlined kit with no remarkable combo potential whatsoever, however since her E is conditional, her ult is a playmaking skillshot and her W is partially a "parry", Poppy still has a degree of skill, most specifically, knowledge expression and decision making. Besides, people who complain about Nasus forget how railroaded (and thus predictable, hence counterable) his playstyle is, they're simply too much of a bunch of morons to figure out that rather than practicing SiCk KoMbOs on Riven, Irelia or whatever infinite dashes button spamming abomination they like to play they'd rather need to learn how to freeze a lane, because the skill in this game is all about having a good macro, not mashing buttons.

    • @tonguepop9453
      @tonguepop9453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tehrik0020 I get what your saying but I meant more as the game progressess and the champs get more and more ridiculous it's hard to keep simplistic champs interesting, balanced, and competitive when compared to champs like samira or Viego. Look at Mundo for example his kit is still relevantly the same but they had to add SO MUCH stuff to it for him to be relavent in a game where everyone has 6 dashes.

    • @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena
      @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tonguepop9453 simple answer you don't and Mundo actually sucks in fact he is actually weaker than before the rework as riot likes to make reworks underpowered at start and they just suck at reworking simple champions

    • @tonguepop9453
      @tonguepop9453 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena I mean I'd completely disagree lol as long as you can hit skillshots new Mundo is hella oppressive. They just made him into a laner rather then a laner/jungle

    • @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena
      @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tonguepop9453 ok 1 who the fuck played old mundo jungle? and 2 you forget that the majority of league players can not hit skill shots plus it is pretty easy to dodge and early gw fucks him over in lane

  • @Boricosa
    @Boricosa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The bgm feels so nostalgic, but I can't recall from which game it is(maybe sonic), nice video as always!

  • @teyayaa6392
    @teyayaa6392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I started playing league like yesterday and I got to say that it is satisfying to just Q everything and still be useful. League has *a lot* of things to keep track of and it is overwhelming, so having to not think about how to play your champion was a big plus. I feel that because it was so easy it got me hooked to want to put the time and effort into developing a play style, learning the specifics of the champions, etc. etc.

  • @putinhail8217
    @putinhail8217 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    well- easy to play doesn't mean easy to win with. (keep that in mind) I would argue that some seeming simplistic champions make even more use out of certain concepts. Like a twisted fate vs Syndra matchup where both players (including the tf here) has to understand how to tether in and out of range play around key cooldowns-(trying to abuse syndras mana costs) and also play around wave clear advantages - when to last hit a minion - punishing mistakes calling a bluff when tf walks up with gold card if syndra thinks the jungler isn't nearby (as some champions with point-click abilities can also make use of input buffering- thus extending the threat range where normally syndra would have the range advantage) and champions like Vladimir or yi has to be patient with when they choose to dive into the enemy team- they can easily die if the get stunned -silenced etc. (yes they have the ability to go untargetable but that's exactly the reason why can dive) Because unlike (say zed) (I'm using vlad as an example here) your engage range is short and you don't move in and out of a fight quick enough to punish a single miss positioned target. Instead, a vlad player will look to dive into multiple targets and deal as much damage as possible while trying to avoid cc- the vlad will most likely start the combo off with R and that is when he's vulnerable. If he doesn't do enough- he would have wasted his flash for the engage and his opportunities to make a play again becomes significantly smaller. (the key difference being windows of opportunity when comparing vlad to Zed) I'm strictly talking about the champion's design and the philosophies they follow. I would argue that a champion like vlad - making a mistake is easier but your rewards are much greater. Therefore - i wouldn't say he's mechanically harder to play at all- but there's a skill you learn when playing both of these champions- seeing windows of opportunity to punish a player or team's mistakes and how often you get to do so. I just think that in certain levels of play - certain playstyles don't get enough respect or recognition.
    I wrote a whole essay here but I Iove your vids and I think anybody who plays the game talks about it.

    • @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena
      @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You call that an essay? please thats a long paragraph if any. I do agree with your points however i would like to add that Soraka is actually seemingly simplistic but people are usually playing her wrong as you are supposed to land Q before using W since it gives you more out of the healing and options to reposition. Sure she is simple but people do not give her much credit at all and just call her brainless

  • @chrislife1101
    @chrislife1101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Seeing Vladimir here and not teemo irritated the fuck outta me

    • @hamzasami8362
      @hamzasami8362 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Believe it or not, teemo is not a braindead champion

    • @cjjackson8309
      @cjjackson8309 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Teemo is hard i suck at him

  • @budinhapalmieri
    @budinhapalmieri 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did not see that SAO abridged reference coming, nice one vars

  • @ceviri1234
    @ceviri1234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I really like Garen. The utter lack of mechanics makes it a perfect champ to just get in the flow. No need to preplan 10 moves ahead, just splitpush and spin. And after few minutes of that you just vibe. It's almost meditative state, very relaxing and god damn league players sure can use something to relax to

  • @abrarnoorani8385
    @abrarnoorani8385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As someone in low elo, I love these bastards (unless they're on the enemy team)

  • @AvatarRoku22
    @AvatarRoku22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    garen was OP af because of stride breaker. The one weakness he(and juggernauts in general) was supposed to have was completely counteracted by an item so there was literally no counter play to him. if he wants to engage there's basically nothing you can do to stop or avoid it. Thank god riot was smart enough to remove the dash from it.

    • @Adam-bc2ov
      @Adam-bc2ov 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope removing the dash made the item very weak, it was the only mythic to build when ur against à team of full range champ, bet ur an adc main

  • @einin8752
    @einin8752 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi vars! I’m catching up on all your vids 😎

  • @slay_every_day7
    @slay_every_day7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    your videos are so good!!!
    i really like this types od videos!
    we are waiting for you to get famous!!

  • @jonathanmarshall2860
    @jonathanmarshall2860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Soraka main here, She not as brainless as people think she is. There is more the hitting your R and W at the right times. You have to manage everything with her from her mana to her health. Miss managing anything that leads to a lost team fight. I sick of top mains crying when we don't use our R for their solo death. Yeah you died, but that is one less tool for me to use in the gank that our team is doing or repelling. If it was a gank that our jungle was wanting you to bait that is another story. I will blow my R for that. Not a 1v1. Jungles don't think you off the hook. I'm not going to blow my R just because you invaded enemy's red or blue without setting up deep wards.

    • @tonguepop9453
      @tonguepop9453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i think the point here is that soraka's kit is just simple in nature. her q is a poke tool, w a heal, e light cc and her r another heal. tbh i hate the term brainless no champ is brainless everyone of them takes some skill to play well but there diffidently are more simple champs. also good on you for being a soraka main i could never get a hang of her lol lulu and sona are more go to enchantresses

    • @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena
      @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tonguepop9453 Honestly i don't think Brainless was the right word the content creator should have sued here as brainless has too many negative connotations to it. Though he does say Darius is not on the list of Brainless champions while Garen is despite Darius being simple in nature. A word he could have used to describe the champions in the same light but less negative is beginner friendly however Soraka is not and just picking a Enchanter as a starting point of learning Enchanters is not a good idea since they are mostly diverse in of themselves with them excelling in one area or another
      Example: Soraka excels at Healing and Janna excels as Shielding while Lulu excels at buffing allies in general and Sona excels at being Thicc while applying AOE buff's to allies and Nami teedering at being borderline mage excelling at being poke heavy to the enemies more so than Soraka with really good ap ratios
      And thats just a small example and basic description on why Soraka is not a good starting point for Enchanters as honestly there is none its just like Specialists too diverse to pick a starting point however unlike Specialists Enchanters actually have 1 thing in common they grant beneficial buffs to allies ranging from healing, shielding, to augmentation of stats themselves however a champion needs in combination of all those factors of at least two to be considered a Enchanter while again Specialists only have the fact that you can not classify them easily in common. Probably sounding like a broken record at this point but again Enchanters have no gateway champion even Yuumi is vastly different in what she does than the other ones

    • @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena
      @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But you can't really expect people to actually go in depth about the classes otherwise they will find that Enchanters are actually harder than Tank and Engage supports

    • @tonguepop9453
      @tonguepop9453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena Janna I'd more poke then shield but I just don't think soraka is a good starting enchantress and was a poor example, sona would have been good here as she gets you use to knowing when to heal, how to engage as a support, when to disengage, etc. Without being incredibly difficult.

    • @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena
      @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tonguepop9453 to be fair Janna is one of the ones that gives a shield and a big shield as well plus she is mostly known for shielding and can shield towers.

  • @phyrexian_dude4645
    @phyrexian_dude4645 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You have to see this on the game design side, you need a base line to be able to compare. Most of the brainless champions here are indeed the core baseline of what their class is supposed to do, to teach the ropes to the new players.

  • @widowsxpuser45
    @widowsxpuser45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love you for including the SAO abridged refence.

  • @AAAGamesMaster
    @AAAGamesMaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hope they never chenge Blitzcrank, yes he only does 1 thing, this entire move pool is around his Q, but here's the thing about blitz, he is a simple champion with an AMAZING skill ceiling, because he is really hit or miss, you either grab someone, or you don't, so it makes playing blitz well really hard but super rewarding if you do it well.
    Landing hooks with blitz, if the other team is good, is extremelly hard because if the other team knows what they are doing they WON'T let you hook them so easily

    • @ZED_117
      @ZED_117 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly I think they should make his hook range either a smaller or his hook slower, cus in the early game that is almost impossible to dodge. Same goes for Morgana's Q, that thing, it's too thiccc and goes too far.

    • @minutenreis
      @minutenreis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ZED_117 morgana Q is small and blitzcrank you are either far enough away to sidestep it (which isnt that far) or you have to have something in between you; I think his extended Q range (they once buffed it by 100 units or so) is fine

    • @AAAGamesMaster
      @AAAGamesMaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ZED_117 Just stay behind a minion, is not hard

    • @ZED_117
      @ZED_117 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AAAGamesMaster not untill the blitz moves and you have to choose between retreating and losing farm and exp or staying in a position where the enemy ADC can shoot at you.

    • @ZED_117
      @ZED_117 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@minutenreis on the early game you have to be on the very edge of the Q range to be able to dodge it, and as for the having something in between you part, most blitz move to stay in front of the minions because they know that by doing so you can't get close and will lose farm and exp as a result, because if you get close he pulls you. Your only hope is to get a gank and we all know how unreliable they are.
      Also how the hell is Morgana's Q small?

  • @KaiserX40
    @KaiserX40 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    not a vlad main or player, but how is vlad brainless? He is a high intensity champ to play, he can demolish entire teams by himself if played correctly even if he doesnt have any skillshot he's not hard but definitely not brainless either.

  • @thebeesankle5024
    @thebeesankle5024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    that "small" buff to vlads q wasn't small. Its a short cooldown ability that makes his sustain in lane and damage late game a lot better because he can get off multiple empowered qs, comparing it to kai'sa e doesn't make any sense because that's a longer cooldown ability that isn't apart of her core dmg.

    • @bacettogang992
      @bacettogang992 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They nerfed kai'sa's q's cooldown 2 times this season and she's still ok . Small compared to other balancements i guess

    • @lajosszucs6579
      @lajosszucs6579 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's exactly what he is saying.
      Riot thought it would be a "small change" and it turned out to be not.
      Also I wouldn't say Kaisa's E is not comparable to Vlad's Q
      Vlad doesn't oneshot you with his Q, but deals dmg and heals him, which is what he needs
      Kaisa's E doesn't oneshot you, but it gives her attack speed, movement speed (can dodge skillshots with it) and later an invisibility, but she has so many other things, that noone would notice

    • @paake3134
      @paake3134 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Empowered Q should be removed.

  • @kzaanimefan4836
    @kzaanimefan4836 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never thought I would see an SAO Abridge Clip in Vars' vid

  • @DodacLA
    @DodacLA 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Sword Art Online Abridge line Hit so unexpectedly. XD
    I guess time to give it ANOTHER rewatch after this.

  • @MrC1PHER_
    @MrC1PHER_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The thing is that I prefer if brainless champions could be reworked into half a brain champions. Of course, warwick runs at you, presses q and ults you melee, but he also can use e and lauch ult from distance to neutralize a target and fear the rest of the team. Sett can pull you in, bonk you and ult to keep bonking, but he can also use q to get near the frontlane and ult into the team to use e and stun as much people as posible. Champions with low skill floor but high sky cealing are great, because you pick them up as you start in the game and as you improve as a player so does your champ because now you can think of new ways to use the same tools.

  • @Hymn645
    @Hymn645 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It’s fun and all but when tanks start doing a 1000+ true damage I get a little annoyed. Seriously have a grudge against Olaf, I’m a tank support main and he’s immune to cc, so I can’t peel him and I can’t just try to get him to attack me either because he’ll chunk my health, especially when he is ahead. Which presents the problem of how do a deal with a cc immune, true damage dealing tank from killing my adc? I just have to hit exhaust and pray my adc can out play a little because there are not a lot of adcs that can stat check him. Like with nasus at least I can stun him, knock him backwards, root, slow, charm, transform etc etc to keep him off of my adc. But Olaf just moves forward and there is very little counter play besides having better stats. Which I don’t like because if you have one lane that’s having a rough game he can just farm gold from them and get the stats necessary to just steam roll the other lanes. I just think since adcs have a natural weakness to melee champions that maybe they or their supporters would have so kind of counter play, but all I can think of is playing lulu and dumping all of my abilities on my adc to boost their stats as high as possible while using exhaust on the enemy stat checker so they have a chance of winning the stat check. But as a tank main, I normally don’t play lulu, how is an Alistar or Leona suppose to keep him from just walking up to my adc and killing them. You need such good vision control in order to have an noticeable impact on that matchup and you and your adc needs to keep an eye on that vision. And when playing from behind in the mid-late game sometimes makes it kind of an int to face check so much jungle, even as a tank support.
    With other stat checkers like nasus or garen I can cc like I’m supposed to and it makes it more of a team game again where I feel like I can help out in a fight. But a cc immune, true damage dealing tanky fighter is just to much to deal with if they get ahead but at the same Time, playing jungle is a nightmare, I have been autofilled jungler a couple of times and those games are always brutal because when you’re a support main get auto fill in the jungle, you know that’s going to be a hard game and having a champ where I can theoretically just stat check is kinda nice.

    • @sharp_iodine2737
      @sharp_iodine2737 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yup. I play both engage and enchanters and the only ones who can stop an Olaf are Lulu and Janna. When he goes CC immune I don't even think either of them can stop him.

    • @TheAzorg
      @TheAzorg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't feel helpless against Olaf at all. As a thresh main I can just Q him and if he's smart enought to go into me, then I'll lantern and flash away, if not I can still fly to him :3
      And um.... I learnt a lot of other lanes past few months and I feel comfortable being autofilled anywhere now. But still, support is my home ;)

    • @sharp_iodine2737
      @sharp_iodine2737 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheAzorg I also play Thresh but haven't played into an Olaf yet. Does your Q still land when he goes CC immune? Because that's the only problem I have, otherwise he can be CC'd by many other supports.

    • @TheAzorg
      @TheAzorg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sharp_iodine2737 it have you ever landed Q onto blackshielded enemy? Basically the same effect. It's cool to fly over huge distances to them :3
      And when he activates R after being hit by Q, it disappears

    • @sharp_iodine2737
      @sharp_iodine2737 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheAzorg I have tried it on spellshielded Sivir but the hook disconnects very quickly, can you press it within that short time to fly to them?

  • @dragonheart1357
    @dragonheart1357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love you for that SAO Abriged refernce, reason enough to sub to your channel for me XD

  • @epicakoss5318
    @epicakoss5318 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I despise Fizz so ur safe for now haha :D Great video Vars those documentaries are really fun!

  • @red_freeman9499
    @red_freeman9499 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yeah u are right some classes just aint compatible for example assasin and support
    Wait...

    • @carbonbeaker409
      @carbonbeaker409 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pyke's fun

    • @red_freeman9499
      @red_freeman9499 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@carbonbeaker409 as a otp pyke i can agree

    • @carbonbeaker409
      @carbonbeaker409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@red_freeman9499 i'm a rakan main, so ye

  • @dryashes
    @dryashes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Sorry guys, but Rift Herald Dog is too much fun for me to play anything else.

  • @ghabsterlol7768
    @ghabsterlol7768 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    that shogath walking a perfectly timed with the music at 11:03

  • @duwanglover3424
    @duwanglover3424 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s so funny to see Tryndamere on the rework list. I honestly don’t want him to be reworked because I worry about the classic “the champion you love is gone” type of rework for him. But at the same time I fully acknowledge just how badly he needs one.

  • @Hellothere-ss4jq
    @Hellothere-ss4jq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Essential yes if the things you learn on them are transferrable to other champions in their class or role
    Example: Ashe, imo she's the best marksman to learn adc on. You'll learn that you are squishy, that distance is your advantage, tanks are your best friends, that you get better with items and to keep the edgy Talon away from you at all costs. If you then wish to go further and improve with her she has a macro tool and a teamfighting ultimate, if she bored you to tears you can pick up any other marksmen and all the stuff you learned on Ashe applies to them (even Samira)
    For mages: Annie and Neeko
    For fighters: Pantheon and Vi
    For tanks: Sejuani and Amumu
    For supports: Leona and Soraka/Sona
    For assassins: None in LoL I learnt the assassin playstyle in Smite through Bastet (in summary she's an ultbot) and that experience was transferrable across games (she still needs a rework though)
    If a "brainless" champ leaves you having to start from square one on another champ in their class or role then they're a failure and need to be looked at (Udyr, Tryndamere, Garen...my bias is showing isn't it, also curious that these three have a tendency to have unhealthy levels of bloated stats I know the reason why but hmm)

    • @ldalexandrite
      @ldalexandrite 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Some champions require absolutely fucking nothing to be effective and imo that’s a good bracket to decide if they’re brainless. Most obvious ones are Yuumi, Garen, Nasus and Master Yi. And Talon for example is a great contender for a brainless assassin compared to Qiyana or Zed.

    • @Hellothere-ss4jq
      @Hellothere-ss4jq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@klausgoldfisch3231 let's put it this way, as a newer player after playing either annie or neeko for a few games then you pick up let's say Zyra I'm pretty sure that outside of Zyra's plant shenanigans you can pilot her comfortably based of off your experience on the prior mage you played
      I like to look at simple champs as the class specific tutorial imparting the necessary knowledge, positioning, damage output expectation that applies to most others in their class

    • @Hellothere-ss4jq
      @Hellothere-ss4jq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ldalexandrite Talon teaches you bad laning habits resulting in talon players crashing face first if they were to try out Qiyana,Zed, Ekko, Akali you know the suspects. On top of that his assassination execution is "too easy" to the point where you'll feel every other option is too unreliable or "does no damage" in the iron sense. Might just be me I love every assassin except him specifically. Basically I'm saying there is no good entry level assassin in LoL, the closest is Kha'zix
      Braindead champs have a place as long as they're not Duskblade Yi, good grief. IMO Yuumi is ok as long as the player actually wants to help people and not sit on a fed teammates back all game which is unfortunately super rare but I've faced one or two of that type very selfless, active and quite chipper they'll block anything for you even a Lux ult xD

    • @baptistecochennec5956
      @baptistecochennec5956 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Hellothere-ss4jq zed is a good first assassin champ he's a jack of all trade assassin, have a lots of skill ceiling and expression but his basic combo are pretty simple to pick up

    • @ldalexandrite
      @ldalexandrite 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello there There is no lie. I agree with everything you just said. And yeah, easy champions should and must exist, telling otherwise is pretty elitist imo, as long as cheesy and unhealty gameplay isn’t present like Duskblade Yi or afk farming Nasus.

  • @El_Bellota
    @El_Bellota 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My suggestion UWU

  • @mose9629
    @mose9629 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    gotta love the SAO abridged reference

  • @MrLolguy93
    @MrLolguy93 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here are some suggestions for future videos if you're interested:
    1. Possible gameplay changes i.e. talents like the ones in HotS and Dota 2,
    Aghanim scepter updates from Dota 2
    (for example Kayn gets the bonuses from both forms or Morde's ult doesn't get caecled by QSS effects)
    2. Possible new cosmetic items: new announcers, UIs, even turrets and minions

  • @fanficologist6621
    @fanficologist6621 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    *See SAO Abridged*
    A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

  • @lolmanboss
    @lolmanboss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i miss old taric where he was easy to play, i wrecked so many players with him

    • @men-zh2jo
      @men-zh2jo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And he isnt easy now?

    • @lolmanboss
      @lolmanboss 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@men-zh2jo You dont have a point n click stun anymore

    • @men-zh2jo
      @men-zh2jo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lolmanboss Thank god for that

    • @lolmanboss
      @lolmanboss 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@men-zh2jo he was still underplayed though.

  • @TheUnknownuser15
    @TheUnknownuser15 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Sao abridged reference... Made me subscribe🤣

  • @beatthatmeat8670
    @beatthatmeat8670 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:05 that sao abriged reference was on point

  • @holycrapitsachicken
    @holycrapitsachicken 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sometimes people just wanna go unga bunga.

  • @katgut
    @katgut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ever since the recent divine sunderer buff me and my friends have hated fighting nasus because every. Single. Fucking. game would be a loss if we didn't permanently zone him off of farm, even under tower, then he would get 2 mop up kills and be unstoppable to the point me a mid lane main that usually bans sylas, yone, that stuff, would ban him if he wasn't
    And as a mage main, playing annie gave me absolutely nothing, I learned more as inting first time fiddle mid, but I'm biased because I hate every burst mage except veigar

    • @Nielsper
      @Nielsper 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      the divine sunderer buff made me perma ban yorick

    • @ZED_117
      @ZED_117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Nielsper Ezreal is also very fucking bad to deal with. 1 Q, not even with W, and half of the mages health is gone

    • @sighman9209
      @sighman9209 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's one of the distinguishing factors for a good Nasus tho. Having excellent macro to live through the lane, while stacking up the passive as much as possible. IF you don't contest him on macro level he is inevitable.

    • @katgut
      @katgut 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sighman9209 the problem is we cant contest him so it's not an if it's an ff 15

    • @sighman9209
      @sighman9209 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@katgut The answer is wave management. Freeze if you can so he has to overextend and then it's easy gank and easy money. Or build up a huge wave and dive him. Nothing he can really do pre6, without help from jg, which he certainly won't get because of the srigma around Nasus.

  • @bastianokamiro5421
    @bastianokamiro5421 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ideas for Malphite the Living Mountain:
    The Q its an Earthshater skillshot in a cone, with around half current Q range, but it has a shortened version of his ult knock up if lands on the sweetspot, W can be the same, its great as it is, the E could be a bit similar to Nautilus, but a minor eartwave around him and a second in a bigger range than first ring of wave, if 2nd wave hits a champion, a third wave outside the 2nd would generate dealing waaaay less damage than first and 2nd, but it will have a noticeable slow, the slow effect is amplified based on the number of champions affected, finally the Ult, could be the opposite of what it is, Malphite could cast 2 versions of his ult, middle to close range, will be almost the same as now.
    But if used around max range, it will spawn a small mountain knocking up the enemies for a brief moment, less than close range and less damage, but the mountain will be there for a moment before it fades out, being really useful as a disruption or disengage, sacrifing damage for that.
    Balance around that could be interesting haha!

  • @torbjrngaming7826
    @torbjrngaming7826 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Eyy yo loved the sao abriged reference

  • @user-vc1gd4jg1f
    @user-vc1gd4jg1f 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Someone earlier today who was a 16/2 sett attempted to convince my team that he wasn’t a brainless champ because he had skill shots

    • @VarsVerum
      @VarsVerum  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Welll.... he's not wrong xD

    • @darkship585
      @darkship585 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      His E takes positional skill and has a few weird quirks like aiming it slightly to the side to get a tiny bit more range. His ult is hard to use to absolute maximum effect. His autos are different than every other champion in the game so his q auto resets he makes a choice on. His w is knowing how long you should hold it and who you need to hit the true damage one.
      New sett players are always decent at the champ because he has a pretty simple kit but there's plenty to optimize efficiency on him, and he has enough skill expression to be mastered.

    • @hanckk2546
      @hanckk2546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@darkship585 cringe champ doe

    • @paltil
      @paltil 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hanckk2546 compared to who?

    • @ldalexandrite
      @ldalexandrite 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sett is not a brainless champion though. There is a big difference between a good and a great Sett player whereas there are hardly any difference between good and meh Garen/Nasus players

  • @olsenfernandes3634
    @olsenfernandes3634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nasus mains be like:
    *UNLIMITED BONK WORKS*

    • @cjjackson8309
      @cjjackson8309 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can out muscle any situation if you are strong enough

  • @B00fus
    @B00fus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That sonic lost world music be hittin

  • @herohalv4543
    @herohalv4543 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    13:28 idk if i would say that the reason that buff made him OP was because he has so few metrics, but specific to that change itself (Q being A. the ability you max first and B. something you consistently use off cooldown makes that the most impactful CDR change possible) changing the cooldown on for instance his E would not have the same effect.

  • @apunnojustice7475
    @apunnojustice7475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Surely we've all played at least one of the beginner easy champs"
    Me, who literally learned on Evelynn just bc i love her, and then went on to Kindred and Aphelios bc "oh they look cool": o-o

  • @imthesupra
    @imthesupra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a Tryndamere main, i think that slowing enemy with W and then pressing E on them and then autoattacking them to death requires alot of macro and mechanics

  • @OccuredJakub12
    @OccuredJakub12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Idea for how to make Jax's empower more interesting but not super complicated: make it incerease his vision. This means he can see ganks and enemies from further away. Either that, or incerease his leap range while Empowered.

    • @dominicguye8058
      @dominicguye8058 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That makes a lot of sense, good suggestion

  • @frod0073
    @frod0073 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I started playing with annie, and it really helped understanding tiene base concepts of the game

  • @SadToffee
    @SadToffee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Idk how much Jax counts, he's got alot more depth than Mr spin to win and Mr rice farm

    • @eVill420
      @eVill420 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      he can ward hop, that's about it.

    • @SadToffee
      @SadToffee 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eVill420 but to win a trade against most champs he has to outplay with e and kite properly, and he actually has a high skill ceiling because his gameplay is actually variant, compared to garen where if you know what all of your buttons do you know how to play the champ just as much as highj elo garens, i really cant agree with calling jax a brainless champion because of that

  • @3sz10
    @3sz10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Low skill needed champs should defenetly exist but Riot shouldn't buff them in higher elos. These champs are clearly for starters not for pros.

    • @olsenfernandes3634
      @olsenfernandes3634 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      *Me looks at pros who don't play Yoric Top* : _SUUURE_

    • @quriqders3442
      @quriqders3442 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      master yi is perfect example

    • @olsenfernandes3634
      @olsenfernandes3634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@quriqders3442 Master Yi mains: *Carefully piolets the Early and Mid game so they could be strong late game, Engages at the perfect moment when supports just wiff their CC, Presses Q and W at the perfect time to dodge life threatening Abilities*
      Other Players: Look at brain dead champion just runs in and kills our whole team!!!
      Fiora mains: *Pokes with her Q and runs away dealing percent HP damage with more speed and health, Blocks Life threatening abilities with W, Runs and attacks you with high MS ult that also heals her during and after the enemy dies, Split pushes most of the game*
      Also other Players: Oh my god, look at her outplay those noobs! She's a God!!!

    • @3sz10
      @3sz10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@olsenfernandes3634 It's more like "WHY THE FUCK THIS CHAMP HAS THAT MANY HEALING" or .. while fighting 3+ people "DIE ALREADY YOU FRENCH SWORDWOMAN"
      I know she need timings but basically that's it Riot should nerf her healing and she should be fine.

    • @arielmatiauda5110
      @arielmatiauda5110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Every champ should have the chance if you're skilled enough to get you to challenger, no exception

  • @chiiiiie5608
    @chiiiiie5608 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    god that Corvatz Cameo was totally unexpected

  • @davidcarter8012
    @davidcarter8012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:02 for SAOA by Something Witty Entertainment reference

  • @dbbab9112
    @dbbab9112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I once sarcastically said: I respect the skill in yuumi as garen
    they said: YOU ARE GAREN LOL
    I said: I can die
    Them: IRL hopefully
    So that was fun

    • @VigilTheProtogen
      @VigilTheProtogen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Don't even try to engage in conversation with Yuumi. It's like talking to a real life cat. At best you are talking to yourself. At worst you incite their rage and they launch into a scratching frenzy.

  • @oneofthe12sionmains70
    @oneofthe12sionmains70 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Never forget the hidden brainless champ that nobody talks about: Press Q on champ under turret, press W, press E on dagger, press R, press E on dagger, escape with double kill bot

  • @beppermint4092
    @beppermint4092 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good video!! i dont entirely agree with the idea of "more complex = easier to balance" though, because... akali rework, irelia rework, aatrox rework... you get the idea.
    it's just your opinion though, and that's fine c:

    • @Machiroable
      @Machiroable 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bugs me where he got the idea of complex = easy to balance, if anything more simple champs are historically more easier to balance than complex ones, just look at Ryze for a big example.

  • @shanecharles4589
    @shanecharles4589 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:37 a trick i wish i learned earlier(but im sure a lot of people know, this is for the ones that dont.) When playing against a tyrndamere IMO you should ALWAYS take ignite(unless maybe mid and support both have it, even then i still probably would.) This is because they both last 5 sec, so if you wait 1-2 seconds after he ults, he should almost always die to your ignite if left to his own devices. His heal wont be enough and he will take a tik or 2 of true dmg right after his ult wears off, which means hes essentially dead unless he finds a way to lifesteal out of it which would still be hard with ignite ticking.

  • @atharvaphadke3855
    @atharvaphadke3855 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    WHERE IS SETT ? He is also 1 dimentional, better add him if you are reluctant in adding Moredekaiser

    • @arielmatiauda5110
      @arielmatiauda5110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      All Sett Abilities except Q can be failed and has to be aimed, require timing, he isn't brainless as you can only play aggressive but can't escape fights only start them, he's easy tho but not as brainless as Garen or Mundo

    • @6ber721
      @6ber721 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@arielmatiauda5110 he is so brainless just his true damage punch that give him shield and his regen make no sense this thing is maybe not brainless just really dumb

    • @arielmatiauda5110
      @arielmatiauda5110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@6ber721 i think he's simple, but not completely brainless as any moment you can fail an ability and not kill your target

    • @6ber721
      @6ber721 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@arielmatiauda5110 that's what i said at the end not brainless but really dumb

    • @atharvaphadke3855
      @atharvaphadke3855 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@arielmatiauda5110 omfg sett has soo much damage and sustains there is no way you can lose to that

  • @stefa69n
    @stefa69n 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    The argument "brainless champion" comes usually as an excuse from the noobs playing difficult champions, chasing all the time for useless fights and ending 0/18.

    • @ZED_117
      @ZED_117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Being fair some champions are just very hard to deal with when they get even slightly ahead.
      Master Yi for example.

    • @jackl2257
      @jackl2257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ZED_117 anyone with a untargetable ability plus anivia is rlly hard to deal with

    • @IronMan-mj1kx
      @IronMan-mj1kx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really? Master yi is one of the shittiest champions if it hasn't got any early game lead.

    • @ZED_117
      @ZED_117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@IronMan-mj1kx yeah he is a 100 or 0, either he gets a lead early and becomes a unkillable monster, or he doesn't and becomes an annoying super minion. That still doesn't change the fact that a Yi who got ahead is an ass to deal with.

    • @sighman9209
      @sighman9209 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ZED_117 Downside to Yi is that your jungle pathing has to be top of the line on point. Especially if you want to influence lanes.(And 1 stun can literally shut him down)

  • @digitalon01
    @digitalon01 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I play a fair amount of Garen because he allows me to focus on mechanics like last hitting and positioning. Since I mostly play top laners I use him as a training tool for the more complex champions so it seems to me that he serves his purpose as a starter champion perfectly. He is also great if I'm feeling rusty after a long break from league.

  • @mrshugar2037
    @mrshugar2037 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Vars. I don't know if its just me but the background music in your latest videos seem to be a bit louder? Great video nontheless!