Another thing about the first movie: the kid was given multiple warnings that the philosophy professor was an atheist, and sorely hated Christianity. He was willing to switch him to a different class, but Josh was hellbent, no pun intended, on taking this class. He's literally persecuting himself. There's no greater irony
@@0SC2 he isn’t an atheist he a theist. He believes in a higher power but hates that higher power. The creators of these dog shit movies just don’t know the difference
@@0SC2I’m confused, why did you say “there you go”. They just reiterated their first comment, which made sense. An atheist can’t “hate god”, because they don’t believe one exists. So, he’s not an atheist.
Fun fact: When I was very religious I watched the first God's Not Dead. I didn't know how I felt about it so I started watching atheist reviews of the film, and that's how I started deconstructing. The movie was so bad not only did it fail to strengthen my faith, it backfired.
I was a kid who had been losing faith for years when my whole church went to go see it... yeah it made me irritated but mostly i thought it was ridiculous and stupid. I was 12 lmfao
Yeah. It really wouldn’t be difficult to make a movie with a strong Christian message and a moral protagonist. But the way the movie delights in punishing the characters who don’t believe is really fucked up. Not to mention their own symbolism contradicts itself.
What bothers me about God is Not Dead III is that the kid who throws a rock through the window immediately knows that the church exploded because of him. I would have just looked at the exploded church the next day and figured someone was way more upset than me about it.
Even if I assumed it _was_ because of me, if I was a christian, I would assume tbat God had just used me as a vessel and I'd wonder what kind of beef God had with that specific church. Like, "Damn, God- I threw a rock; why'd you tranamute it into a stick of C4?"
@@Silburific This. I would 100% assume that God really had it out for the Jude guy and the whole church controversy/rock throwing was just how God wanted Jude to go out.
Undoubtedly you’re going to bring up the fact that these movies claim to portray stories of religious persecution court cases where they claim these people are being punished for their Christian beliefs, and then when you look at the actual details of the cases it’s teachers who got fired from public schools for bullying gay students.
This type of thing started me on my way out of the faith. Seeing for the first time there were a LOT of details left out, obfuscated, presented in a favorable light, or straight-up changed.
The best one is when they showed a case of someone “being persecuted for preaching their word”, and it turns out that they were preaching on the property of the county’s fire department and kept harassing both the people passing by the sidewalk, AND some of the employees inside the station lol
50:50 i got into a car accident a few weeks after i came out to my parents and all they did was use it to say that God was punishing me for being gay. Mind you, both of my parents got into car accidents in their pasts
That’s terrible that you got in a car accident and that your parents were awful about it, but it is pretty funny that they implicated themselves as being gay
Like how Republicans love to say that California and NYC are being punished for being sinners whenever a fire or snowstorm happens. Very different response from them when it is Texas freezing or burning tho...Pray and demand money from the government.
An additional layer of funny to that is the idea that god didnt know you were gay before you came out to your parents and then took two weeks to work out a punishment. Like damn its almost like it was just a coincidence... Hope you are doing okay though!
the thing about Ayesha (not sure which spelling they chose) that annoys me SO MUCH is that no one in wardrobe bought her actress a proper niqab. that is NOT how you veil, bestie, and no muslim with any respect for themselves would wear a hijab like that. if her father is supposed to be this super trad muslim, how tf is he not making sure Ayesha's hijab doesn't look like shit?
@@alexv3372I've seen a lot of people with basic colored hijabs, like black or white. I think they look perfectly fine- not everyone wants to stand out with bold colors!
The outfit she wears in the actual movie doesn't even make sense. I'm not an expert on Islam, but I'm pretty sure there isn't a branch in which the veil covers the mouth yet leaves large patches of hair exposed, while also allowing short sleeves and skinny jeans.
I watched the first movie when I was a kid in a very religious household, and watching Kevin Sorbo get killed in a hit and run shocked me to my core. I asked my dad "I thought he was going to be forgiven?" And my dad, hyper pentecostal christian, said "well, sometimes god doesnt always forgive." And that sent me down my atheism path. So, thanks gods not dead.
Right??? Like the ending is so vindictive! If this is your “sales pitch” for Christianity, how does smiting the guy who wants to join help at all? And a lot of Christian religions will absolutely take a more forgiving stance
@@myfriendscallmepat Three words that show how this kind of thinking has ALWAYS been at the core of it all: FEAR OF GOD. Why would i want to "love" or "worship" a thing that WANTS to be feared? How would the terror instilled into every beiever make it right? It's all a behavior control mechanism built around the "you better do as we say/write in this book ... OR ELSE"... No thanks-
The common lie when the first one came out was that the UK banned it. In fact, it got a limited release due to lack of interest, and the Guardian critic ended his review with 'ban this filth'.
i remember seeing posters for gods not dead at multiple train stations here in the uk... i thought it was a cheesy christian musical from how the posters looked lol
@@vercoda9997 That's because Book of Mormon, the musical, is actually well-written and adresses the problems and bizarre aspects of the Church, while still respecting its members as well-meaning people. Unlike God's not Dead, a stupid propaganda piece where every character is a strawman. Like, a Church member can watch the musical, given that they're mature enough to handle criticism, and come out of it entertained and maybe a more critical person themselves. An atheist cannot come out of God's not Dead anything but bitter or indifferent.
I was surprised in the third film that they included a line of the brother calling out the "Christian persecution complex" which is literally what all of these films have going for them. It does feel that the third film is the most based in reality by not making every atheist out to be a cartoon villain caricature. No wonder their fanbase hated it so much.
I love how the second film ends with “oh no, they’re coming after Reverend Dave!” and then in the third the problem is immediately settled because they’re normal people. Also, “I’m a black preacher from the Deep South, I could build you a whole new church with the amount of bricks that have been thrown through my window” is honestly a great quote.
8:03 I love how the entire premise is, "This one student has to present stuff that is not on the syllabus." And they still show students attending. Most of those students would be gone by day 2 or 3. A few probably would've gone to the dept chair to say that they just want to learn and there's this BS going on. Mainly I don't think this would happen because the other students would get tired of this professor's BS.
lol, Imagine you’re taking college level biology and then for the first semester, your prof just argues with some kid about evolution. I’d at least want some of my tuition back.
some professors could get away with it if they had tenure or otherwise strong connections. honestly whats more unrealistic i would argue is that kevin sorbos character cares enough to single the one kid out for debate when he'd probably just continue on regardless with the expectation that the kids gonna fail the class.
Couldn’t they share their thoughts on God during office hours? I know I’d write in the evaluation about how the actual syllabus was hijacked because the professor couldn’t stick to it and the student just had to prove his point right then and there. I suppose in the sequels would be the other students take turns discussing what the most pressing issue in their lives- the commute to school, tuition, dorm life, work study conditions, maintaining qualifications for scholarships, even things outside of campus and so forth.
that would have been a good movie thematically too, a huge problem with Christianity is the infighting that occurs in it. usually started by the unforgiving traditionalist types
They genuinely believe it's impossible to be a good person without being a Christian, which is something they outright say in the first movie. That's why they made all atheists into mustache-twirling villains.
@Spencer_W which is crazy to think about considering atheists tend to follow gods words (like not using the church to scam people out of their money) and commands better than Christians do in a lot of cases.
i mean realistically, if a college professor started threatening a student, harassing them because of their religious beliefs, and made a major part of their curriculum circle around their own beliefs, they’re getting fired, or at least investigated. like i know this movie isn’t realistic at all and is supposed to be like “look how evil this atheist is!!!!” but also like. that’s how you can tell these writers have never set foot in a college classroom.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was all projection too - like they're mad they can't force their beliefs on everyone else, so they project it on those evil atheist college professors who keep making the youngins stray from God.
@@samuellaakso7012 I feel like people should at least have to sit through the entire Camp Blood franchise before they're allowed to call anything "worst movie ever". Or maybe Wicked World to save time and be slightly less cruel. If they want to go for their advanced bad movie certificate then we can talk later.
@@samuellaakso7012 Wicked World is one of the weirdest movies I've seen, on every level, so it at least has that going for it. Camp Blood series is just pure, dull misery.
I'm Jewish but I have several Christian friends and I am not exaggerating when I say every single one of them despises this franchise even more than I do. It's kind of funny
I said this elsewhere, but as an ex Catholic and ex theatre geek 99% of Christain films are just embarrassing... it is shameful to actually talented religious artists who are being ignored.
I once watched a Christian man talk about this video and his feelings on it were basically that this movie is damaging to Christianity and will absolutely make atheists feel so mocked by it that if they were thinking about converting and then saw this in Church, and heard all the people in the Church boo when the atheists came on screen, they would leave more firmly atheist than when they came in. And he's right.
@@catpoke9557 For me, it's not that atheists are "mocked" -- because Obvious Strawman is obvious -- but because a large number of Christians apparently think God's Not Dead is good and/or support it with their money. Or they stay silent about it, and don't rock the evangelical boat. Are those the kind of people I want to associate with even, if I suddenly thought God was real?
I was in college around the time this movie came out and I literally woke up to someone texting me "God's not dead :)" Like, why did they even have my number?!
I like how they're like "see how evil and unaccepting Muslims are of people who want to leave the faith for Christianity" as if they wouldn't lose their shit if their kids wanted to convert from Christianity to Islam (which actually happens way more often than the reverse)
A very similar thing happens with Wicca and Paganism as well. If you're a pegan or a witch you're seen as trapped, fooled, and enslaved to Satan (even if you don't even believe in Satan). So they paint a picture that witches are unhappy and just haven't found god yet, even though [some] Christians would gladly tell a witch to believe in their god and should believe in that god forever, or else something bad may happen. So a lot of kids aren't even allowed to read about it or think about it, converting people is only seen as a good thing when it's about their specific god, which I've never liked about Christianity.
Right. It seems unlikely, not 'cause of their (somewhat) identical epistomologies, but because Christianity is the dominant religion in the US and it has a lot more institutional support. So there's a lot more money going into Christianity and, specifically, conversion borne through bigotry.
@@ewhschriscI don't have a source either but I'd imagine the main factor is, well, oppression in Middle Eastern dictatorships forcing minorities of all religions, including Christianity, to convert
As someone in their 30s who was homeschooled K-12, I can absolutely attest that homeschooling should be regulated. I was one of the lucky ones where, though my family was very religious, my mom still cared about me having a legitimately good education. And when she reached her limits on her personal knowledge with subjects like math and science, she put me in a charter program which allowed me to go to classes once a week with actual teachers at a charter campus, and then bring assignments home the rest of the week to work on. There were other kids there too, so I got to socialize and learn more of who I was. I knew a lot of other homeschooled kids who didn't get that supplemental schooling like I did, and I saw them struggle as we got older. Some parents are really well intentioned and think they can do the best for their kids, but teachers get degrees for a reason. And, as you mentioned, many parents who homeschool are not well-intentioned and use it to conceal abuse.
I was just in Middle School when the first movie came out. I remember the hardcore Christians in my family were excited to see it. I decided to watch it, and this was before I knew what Christian Nationalists were. Even back then, the movie felt very creepy. Almost like indoctrination. Especially the part about the Muslim family…it really struck a nerve with me even when I was a Christian, because I knew that Muslims are nothing like this film portrayed then as.
Honestly throughout the franchise, it portrays non-Christians very bizarrely. I think the writers lack the vision and perspective to actually develop and portray them with humanity.
@@myfriendscallmepat The theme of the movie is god is real, and correct. Atheists are full of themselves, and evil. Not to mention it’s rooted in the idea that Christians are persecuted. It’s a bit scary to see people buy into this kind of propaganda.
YEAH I was in middle school at the time too and I remember being especially upset about the Muslim family. My aunt and uncle had a college student from a majority Muslim country living in their house while I was growing up and I suspect having him in the family may have helped safeguard me from a lot of the islamophobic sentiment I was surrounded by growing up. This movie frustrated me so much at the time because it felt like everyone at the Christian school I went to at the time loved it and I could tell it was extremely dishonest about how the world actually was.
@@katl.7022 If you want more dishonesty, just keep reading the Bible. Not trying to bash Christians who take good morals from the Bible, but religion has always been a fabricated lie to justify more fabricated lies. From ancient Sumerians, to the first Canaanite Jews, to the Crusades; it’s all been used to justify atrocities. God’s Not Dead is just the next stepping stone for Christians to turn North America into a Theocracy.
The bad father beating his daughter scene is ironic considering religious extremists of every ilk tend to beat their children. So the people making this film should know what it looks like.
The scene plays out exactly like what happens to a lot of LGBT kids when they come out to their religious parents, but I doubt the filmmakers were self-aware enough to see the irony
Plus religious american conservatives are the ones that talk about wanting to bring back spanking and beating kids. They also talk about "bringing back bullying because kids are too soft". Total hypocrisy and special pleading.
The notion of "if you hate God, then he must be real" is funny because of how this can be interchanged. If I was in the movie universe and I say "I hate Freddy Kreuger", would that suddenly make everyone believe the character is real and a sleepless crisis ensues? Would the God's Not Dead movies suddenly become a Nightmare on Elm Street prequel?
Even funnier when Shane had no way of knowing Kevin Sorbo’s tragic backstory. The entire Few Good Men-esque ending would have flopped if Sorbo’s character was actually an atheist.
i work at a movie theater and read the description for the newest one and it was something like “does god have a place in politics still?” i was seriously jaw dropped seeing this movie play at the same time as the forge and a movie called am i racist 😭 its crazy
The fact that every non Christian main character from the first movie was punished or hurt in some way down the line is utterly insane. Especially since the whole point of that movie was making believers out of non believers. The philosophy teacher got killed after deciding to convert to Christianity and make amends with his partner, the liberal gets cancer and broken up with by her lover, and with the Muslim family the daughter gets into a devastating car crash after being a Christian years down the line. Every single one of theme eventually turns to go whether that’s right as they get punished, after they punished, or well well before they get punished it leaves this acrid taste that no matter what you do the fact you weren’t born of Christian means you must be punished (unless you’re an abusive father who beat his daughter for becoming Christian). Hell you could even spin the Muslim family one where the daughter was punished because her father didn’t believe in god since he was the main emotional point of that whole interaction. It’s utterly horrifying how much hatred towards non believers the evangelical Christians have that even in a movie where the whole point if non believers become believers they can’t have their “not them” get off for free (again unless you’re an abusive father who beat his daughter for becoming a Christian).
I like that you have a French revolutionary calendar on the wall behind your monitor. This is exactly the kind of nerd I want TH-cam to be serving me more of.
The first movie came out around the time I was in school and I always thought it was funny how they portrayed the relationship between the Christian student and the atheist professor. The persecution complex is so strong in this series. I’m Christian and one of my favorite professors was my atheist poli science/philosophy professor. His whole thing was you should be able to defend what you believe, and simply saying “I don’t know isn’t good enough”. Even during our discussions it was never antagonistic and I learned so much from him.
@@djamtz right now I’m still figuring out where I am. I think the last few years of seeing some Christians act power hungry and treat those the Bible says to help with such hatred and contempt has done more harm to my faith than my professor asking questions.
I think "I don't know" is occasionally okay. I mean, ultimately, EVERY belief eventually leads to "I don't know." But I guess maybe he was saying that every time you realize something you don't know, you should try to find an answer? Even if you never succeed in it. I think I could agree to that. It's always great to try to find the answers even if it may not be possible.
I would ask "WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS PAT?" But I would be lying if I said I wasn't waiting on someone to watch all the new movies and talk about how terrible they are 😭 Your sacrifice is appreciated 🙏🏻
As a wannabe writer, I wish I could bottle the confidence of writers who set out to write legal thrillers with the knowledge base of having heard of The Devil & Daniel Webster once.
Two things: 1. As someone who was indoctrinated as a kid, I can indeed confirm that Christians say “God is good all the time, and all the time, God is good.” Our pastor literally ended every Sunday sermon with that line. 2. You reminded me that My Gym Partner Is A Monkey exists and that is honestly cursed. That show was like a fever dream.
#1 sounds like a very evangelical mega-churchy thing Somehow I managed to avoid that. And my church wouldn't let my brother volunteer in the daycare because he cut his hair short. If you're wondering why, well, my brother's trans and this was before he came out.
Just so you know, the high number of non-subscribers is actually kind of a good thing, because it means the algorithm likes you and shows your stuff to a lot of people.
@@tatertotbobaandpieckYou get money for each individual view, not for subs. Subs are good because they give you somewhat of a safety net and, for some reason as of late, also unlock more features for you to make your video better?? Which makes no sense because that means it's harder to get subs now... Since people who have them have access to more features to improve the experience... But whatever, that's not relevant lol The point is that someone with a million subs whose video never gets shown to anyone outside of their subs is very likely going to do worse financially than someone with less subs whose videos get shown to millions of random people. Subs actually don't click on videos by people they're subscribed to very often.
One important thing Pat didn't mention is that the credits of each movie have real life court cases that inspired the movies. Except if you look up those cases they are all far worse, things like a school counselor getting in trouble for refusing to work with gay students or a nunnery suing the government because they had the option to have birth control covered under Obamacare.
As a devout Christian with a philosophy degree, I guarantee that I resent these movies more than the vast majority of atheists. Thanks for managing to make the analysis entertaining even if I was fuming for pretty much the entire video 😅
In the past few years, Christianity went from a highly regarded religion to "the religion that keeps us from having nice things like proper schools and healthcare."
It’s how it intertwined with politics in the US. Christianity is an incredibly diverse, incredibly broad belief system especially here in the United States, but if you’re interested in learning how the religion (specifically white, conservative evangelical Christians and nationalists) became such a driving political force in the modern day I recommend you read “Preparing for War” by Bradley Onishi and “Jesus and John Wayne” (I forget the author). Both very good, informative reads.
@@minnesotarailfan12 another great source is Rick Perlstein, whose been writing a series of detailed examinations of the development of the modern right wing in America. so far there are 4 books in the series, and he just got up to Reagan, who is the first president to successfully unite both the reactionary fundamentalist/nationalist Christian base with neoliberal business interests. they’re super interesting and insightful books, and they really put modern politics into context.
I love prince of egypt! 90 percent of Christian media is atrocious. Pureflix actually made a christian movie thats a rip-off of saw! But sometimes you find a diamond in the rough!
The prince of Egypt worked because it wasn’t indoctrination, it was just telling a story. And it was also a beautiful movie to watch. Movies about religion and with major religious themes work the best when they’re not trying to shove their respective faith down your throat and make everything else seem horrible.
Risen was actually pretty good, it's the story of the crucifiction from the perspective of a Roman soldier who's really fucking confused about this weird cult that shares all money and property among themselves that keeps claiming that the guy who was executed three days ago is a god who came back from the underworld to save everyone from damnation
I really needed this after walking out of another terrible movie on my Saturday, thank you so much. I hope my suffering provides comedy at the least hehe
@@Mibit911 I mean, yeah. I'm just confused as to why you express them in this way- It does seem rather silly to click off the video, only to come back just to voice that opinion. It *does* give an outward appearance of you being a *little* weird, y'know? By all means, have your opinions. But like, wouldn't it be better, at least in your mind, to just leave well enough alone?
When I was a little kid, I saw the movie cover of "God's not dead" at Walmart and assumed it was a horror movie bc I thought the guy on the cover was crossing out the word "not." I didn't really understand what religion is (I literally went to a summer Bible camp thing for an entire summer and never knew it was religious). Can't remember what I thought of "God" being in the title, but saying anything "is dead" automatically made me believe it was a horror movie.
How you can tell the writers are incapable of imagining other religions are real, 100% when the Muslim girl gets in a car wreck, the dad would think that was proof Allah was punishing her for leaving the faith
Pat, was you aware of the 10th anniversary Extended Cut of the first film? It's in the $5 bin at Walmart if you're wanting to torture yourself even more?
@@Malkmusianful because the film was a big hit for the studio and the film still has a following. It's like a couple of years ago, the studio that holds the rights to the OG Left Behind films released a 20th anniversary DVD with a 4k remaster....
I feel both loved and called out lol. Both me and my friends decided to marathon all four God’s Not Dead films almost a year ago with a bunch of alcohol and cake. We came out with all the bottles gone, half the cake eaten, and a feeling of disbelief, misery and…surprising indifference.
I remember when the first movie came out, I actually received a "GOD'S NOT DEAD!!" text from someone in my contacts. I didn't know what the movie was and I was just like "what does this mean bro"
Had similar experience, but I had a customer tell me "God's not Dead" totally out of nowhere and me, being a 19 yo fast food worker, was just like "Okay? Would you like cornbread or a biscuit with your meal, ma'am?" Later that year when this movie went to DVD there was a resurgence in ppl talking about it. I politely endured it and, foolishly, was honest when asked if I was a Christian. I said "No. Not really" as I wasn't totally sure what I was yet. The customer was so upset because "How could a sweet young lady like you not be a Christian?!" she proceeded to pray over me then and there at the gas station counter to protect my innocent soul and to ask that Jesus find his way into my heart. Spoiler - He didn't. I'm still not sure if I should be flattered she was so concerned about me or insulted.
I'm gonna need to see the rest of that video with the two rapping old people. The guy saying the word "what" was what put it over the top for me. Rapping granny has a nice flow too. Girl's got skills.
After watching GND 2, I can see where the principal got mad at her for going a sentence too far when she quotes the whole "join me in heaven" part. But even then, that's more of a "yo, don't do that again" type issue and not "you're being put on admin leave while we sort this out"
I have to say, whoever wrote this book/script has never been in a university class before. If I gave out an activity like in GnD1, my faculty board would go "What's your learning objective? What are your measurables? How are you creating an inclusive and equitable classroom? How are you allowing for multiple modes of expressions?" etc. etc. before going into "Do not annoy the largest religious group of the country."
One of the most ridiculous facts about GND1 (and that’s saying something) is that Martin is speaking Cantonese and his father is speaking Mandarin on their phone calls-like did they think people wouldn’t notice 😭
Oh yeah, it didn’t come up in the review but I was confused cuz I’d heard the lines were in Cantonese but it’s explicitly said that he’s from the PRC. Weird stuff!
38:46 I'm Christian and I know what you mean. I know an annoying, crazy Catholic girl who invited me to church once, so I thought fast and got out of it by telling her that I couldn't because of the fact that I sing in chancel choir.
Watching Patrick’s videos are like listening to a cool new band that nobody else has heard of yet. Once Patrick blows up, I’ll get to brag about how I was a fan before it was cool 😎
I'm a Christian, and when I was a teen I watched the original movie so many times. Not necessarily out of my own volition. But the crazy part about this movie, that truly is objectively not good cinema, is that compared to A LOT of other Christian media, _this movie is one of the better ones_. Which truly should say something about the other contemporary Christian movies out there
As a devout Christian we only have like 4 good pieces of Christian media. Vegie Tales Chronicles of Narnia Lord of the Rings Ultraman All the others are either so boring or bad. Mostly because unlike those other ones mentioned they dont know how to tie in any actual character of stakes into the faith. Its mostly just a dude being superficially sad about his marriage being bad, choosing to change and then its instantly better.
Real. It’s so annoying honestly because it makes it look like Christians can’t make good media. They can, it’s just that a lot of the mainstream stuff sucks
@jamesrule1338 when I say that I'm like..40% joking. It was originally created by someone of Christian faith and the general messages are align with Christian doctrine. As well as the early seasons using a lot of Christian imagery in a positive way. But again it's somewhat of a joke.
@@dohnjoe9211most of them are at least fun popcorn flicks that have decent themes about family. I don’t think god’s not dead has any redeeming qualities
I’m a devout Christian and I DESPISE these movies. True religion should be apolitical and philosophically artistic, not brain dead, bigoted propaganda. There’s an absurd divide created by our society that says you must be religious or pro gay rights, or any other sensible thing (separation of ideology and state, importance of science, etc.). I came to Christianity through logic, actual logic, not this nonsense made by morons who make the ignorant claims of Richard Dawkins seem sensible. And I see my faith as a guide for standing up for peace and unconditional love. These are the commands of Jesus Christ. Anyone who says otherwise is either ignorant or a charlatan.
A faith of love, yes, a religion of it? Lol nowhere near... from the crusades to 2024, Christians too often use their religoin to take rights from others.
Interesting. Finding religion has nothing to do with logic though. Faith is basically the suspension of disbelief based on feelings rather than evidence and there's nothing logical about that. However you became reborn, rational thought wasn't part of it.
In 8th grade I had to watch this for religion class. The teacher kept praising it as the best movie ever made but when that professor got hit by a car the entire class was giggling. She was very upset. Me & my friends from then still joke about it lol
As a left wing Christian (there’s more of us than right wing Christians but you’ll never know it), I hate how right wing Christians portray us. It really sucks to see being Christian portrayed in such a terrible way. I promise we aren’t crazy like the people in the movies lol.
About 7 years ago, when I was still in church, the youth group organized a movie night with the first two movies on the franchise. I remember being bored out of my mind until the atheist teacher got run over, that's when I burst out laughing because: this guy just converted, got ran over by a car and all that the witnesses can say is "God is good all the time" with smiles on their faces. I was laughing so hard I had to leave the room to take a breather. These movies are bad, but man, do they have great comedic timing.
MASSIVE SPOILERS FOR TWIN PEAKS (go watch it it’s one of the best pieces of art ever made) I am genuinely so fascinated by the casting of Ray Wise as the villain of God’s Not Dead 2 all because of his (incredibly acted) role in Twin Peaks. Like, if they didn’t know his role in Twin Peaks, then they got EXTREMELY lucky in casting someone who’s most famous role is playing a character who repeatedly molests and murders his daughter as the villain, and if they DO know his role in Twin Peaks, then WOW is that brilliant. Either way, how did he end up here!?
I was homeschooled. For a few years, we participated in a homeschool group where the kids got together at a church once a week and had some “organized class” with volunteer parents. Kids were split by grades, not all in one room. It’s helpful because one of the biggest problems for homeschool kids is lacking social interaction. Also, being homeschooled meant that I was regulated to hell and back. I had to take twice as many standardized tests as normal students, and when I applied to some colleges, I had to take more advanced tests to prove myself, which I failed and wasn’t admitted. My mom created syllabus for all my high school “classes”, made a transcript for me, the whole nine yards.
love the orange shirt Pat! Also, my aunt bumped into Judge Pirro in Fairfield CT, she said Pirro was actually quite nice in person and acknowledged a lot of people disagree with her politics.
My church when I was a kid hosted this 4 day long gods not dead movie marathon that my parents forced me to go to and that felt like hell so I can’t imagine watching them in one sitting
i was just thinking the first movie would have ended a LOT better if the Wheaton guy was the one who tended to the professor’s injury and took him to the hospital. Maybe there the professor opens up more about his childhood to Wheaton while he comforts him daily. It would have made for a much better shift of power dynamic and showed the “love thy neighbor” biblicality a lot better.
But the evil teacher was an evil atheist! Forgiveness? Irrational grace? Loving thy enemy as one loves a friend? You can’t do that, you only deserve to live if you think like us.
When the first movie came out i was still deeply in church, attending four times a week. I came out of it disappinted as hell, because the main character never once made an arguement about why god could or should exist. It was literally just prosecution porn. Several followers/friends my age felt the same way. Like, i went in expecting homework and ways to engage with non-believers. All they did was made propoganda that only reinforces the beliefs of the most cult like members of the religion
Another thing about the first movie: the kid was given multiple warnings that the philosophy professor was an atheist, and sorely hated Christianity. He was willing to switch him to a different class, but Josh was hellbent, no pun intended, on taking this class. He's literally persecuting himself. There's no greater irony
And the professor isn’t even an atheist because he believes in god he just hates god
@@Nixus237Gonna need you to run that one by me again, and see if it makes sense the second time.
@@0SC2 he isn’t an atheist he a theist. He believes in a higher power but hates that higher power. The creators of these dog shit movies just don’t know the difference
@@Nixus237 There you go.
@@0SC2I’m confused, why did you say “there you go”. They just reiterated their first comment, which made sense. An atheist can’t “hate god”, because they don’t believe one exists. So, he’s not an atheist.
“Sitting in my chair, homosexual and unimpressed” is definitely a description I am stealing for myself
Sounds like an autobiography title.
Definitely the line that hooked me into watching the video. It's so succinct
Timestamp?
If only I was gay, I could steal it as well.
@@hangdog355 00:38
Fun fact: When I was very religious I watched the first God's Not Dead. I didn't know how I felt about it so I started watching atheist reviews of the film, and that's how I started deconstructing. The movie was so bad not only did it fail to strengthen my faith, it backfired.
I was a kid who had been losing faith for years when my whole church went to go see it... yeah it made me irritated but mostly i thought it was ridiculous and stupid. I was 12 lmfao
Yeah. It really wouldn’t be difficult to make a movie with a strong Christian message and a moral protagonist. But the way the movie delights in punishing the characters who don’t believe is really fucked up.
Not to mention their own symbolism contradicts itself.
Yeah it’s a pretty dumb movie.
ok that’s kinda the best
I'm glad you're out!
"In the name of tolerance and diversity I say we destroy her"
I'm cringing so hard right now
honestly so camp
The writers: “Heh, this is exactly what those liberals would say.”
Strong Sailor Moon Energy there
"In the name of -The Moon- Tolerance and Diversity I will punish you!"
@@vit968 And just like Sailor Moon they turn a lesbian couple into cousins and accidentally make it way creepier in the process.
this is literally that futurama joke "I say the whole world must learn of our peaceful ways... By force!"
Watching all four of these movies in one sitting ironically sounds like a torture they'd put you through in hell.
True😂
You'd be surprised what goes on at Gitmo.
@@mattc7420 you beat me to it
Don't give the Devil any ideas
@@myfriendscallmepat 🤣🤣🤣
To paraphrase Hank Hill, “You’re not making Jesus better! You’re just making (movies) worse!”
Hank Hill had a point.
@@joshuamoody7729he’s also the best conservative in terms of morality
@@DinoRicky Because hes a decent person first and conservative second.
@@efulmer8675we should all strive to be decent first and political second. Or third. Or fourth.
Hank Hill, quite possibly the most relatable conservative that ever was.
What bothers me about God is Not Dead III is that the kid who throws a rock through the window immediately knows that the church exploded because of him. I would have just looked at the exploded church the next day and figured someone was way more upset than me about it.
Even if I assumed it _was_ because of me, if I was a christian, I would assume tbat God had just used me as a vessel and I'd wonder what kind of beef God had with that specific church. Like, "Damn, God- I threw a rock; why'd you tranamute it into a stick of C4?"
@@Silburific😂😂😂
Me too
@@Silburific This. I would 100% assume that God really had it out for the Jude guy and the whole church controversy/rock throwing was just how God wanted Jude to go out.
I know weird things happen but the odds of a rock breaking a gas pipe and an exposed lightbulb causing an explosion must be astronomical.
Undoubtedly you’re going to bring up the fact that these movies claim to portray stories of religious persecution court cases where they claim these people are being punished for their Christian beliefs, and then when you look at the actual details of the cases it’s teachers who got fired from public schools for bullying gay students.
This type of thing started me on my way out of the faith. Seeing for the first time there were a LOT of details left out, obfuscated, presented in a favorable light, or straight-up changed.
That basically is persecution of their faith. They want to be able to abuse people into subservience and hide behind their religion to do it.
The best one is when they showed a case of someone “being persecuted for preaching their word”, and it turns out that they were preaching on the property of the county’s fire department and kept harassing both the people passing by the sidewalk, AND some of the employees inside the station lol
Yeah… Exercising their religious freedom, like you said.
(😉)
Don't forget forced prayer in science class!
50:50 i got into a car accident a few weeks after i came out to my parents and all they did was use it to say that God was punishing me for being gay. Mind you, both of my parents got into car accidents in their pasts
I guess the forgiveness only works if you're Christian in a Christian movie :/ (haters, they were wrong)
That’s terrible that you got in a car accident and that your parents were awful about it, but it is pretty funny that they implicated themselves as being gay
By that logic they’re both gay themselves
I hope you get out of there those bastards don’t deserve you
Like how Republicans love to say that California and NYC are being punished for being sinners whenever a fire or snowstorm happens. Very different response from them when it is Texas freezing or burning tho...Pray and demand money from the government.
An additional layer of funny to that is the idea that god didnt know you were gay before you came out to your parents and then took two weeks to work out a punishment. Like damn its almost like it was just a coincidence...
Hope you are doing okay though!
the thing about Ayesha (not sure which spelling they chose) that annoys me SO MUCH is that no one in wardrobe bought her actress a proper niqab. that is NOT how you veil, bestie, and no muslim with any respect for themselves would wear a hijab like that. if her father is supposed to be this super trad muslim, how tf is he not making sure Ayesha's hijab doesn't look like shit?
What do they do look like anyways
I mostly just thought the color looked ugly
Maybe go for something more bright…?
@@alexv3372I've seen a lot of people with basic colored hijabs, like black or white. I think they look perfectly fine- not everyone wants to stand out with bold colors!
The outfit she wears in the actual movie doesn't even make sense. I'm not an expert on Islam, but I'm pretty sure there isn't a branch in which the veil covers the mouth yet leaves large patches of hair exposed, while also allowing short sleeves and skinny jeans.
I thought it was supposed to be a niqab since those cover the face
@@aliasfakename3159 niqabs are separate pieces of fabric tied over the front of a hijab to cover the face
I watched the first movie when I was a kid in a very religious household, and watching Kevin Sorbo get killed in a hit and run shocked me to my core.
I asked my dad "I thought he was going to be forgiven?"
And my dad, hyper pentecostal christian, said "well, sometimes god doesnt always forgive."
And that sent me down my atheism path.
So, thanks gods not dead.
Right??? Like the ending is so vindictive! If this is your “sales pitch” for Christianity, how does smiting the guy who wants to join help at all? And a lot of Christian religions will absolutely take a more forgiving stance
@@myfriendscallmepat Three words that show how this kind of thinking has ALWAYS been at the core of it all: FEAR OF GOD.
Why would i want to "love" or "worship" a thing that WANTS to be feared? How would the terror instilled into every beiever make it right?
It's all a behavior control mechanism built around the "you better do as we say/write in this book ... OR ELSE"... No thanks-
He died?
@@zeitgeistindustries1792 The character Kevin played in the movie died, it's in the video
@@gyroownstheworldI just got to that part in the video, lol oops
The common lie when the first one came out was that the UK banned it. In fact, it got a limited release due to lack of interest, and the Guardian critic ended his review with 'ban this filth'.
i remember seeing posters for gods not dead at multiple train stations here in the uk... i thought it was a cheesy christian musical from how the posters looked lol
@@fireflybutton1939 Book of Mormon, however... I love seeing those cheerful, campy posters across the Underground stations, whenever I visit London.
You know you fumbled the bag when a newspaper straight up says “ban this filth”
That’s something you don’t want people to say about your movie
Claiming you're being censored when people just don't care about you is such an Evangelical thing to do, it's borderline parody.
@@vercoda9997 That's because Book of Mormon, the musical, is actually well-written and adresses the problems and bizarre aspects of the Church, while still respecting its members as well-meaning people. Unlike God's not Dead, a stupid propaganda piece where every character is a strawman. Like, a Church member can watch the musical, given that they're mature enough to handle criticism, and come out of it entertained and maybe a more critical person themselves. An atheist cannot come out of God's not Dead anything but bitter or indifferent.
I was surprised in the third film that they included a line of the brother calling out the "Christian persecution complex" which is literally what all of these films have going for them. It does feel that the third film is the most based in reality by not making every atheist out to be a cartoon villain caricature. No wonder their fanbase hated it so much.
I love how the second film ends with “oh no, they’re coming after Reverend Dave!” and then in the third the problem is immediately settled because they’re normal people.
Also, “I’m a black preacher from the Deep South, I could build you a whole new church with the amount of bricks that have been thrown through my window” is honestly a great quote.
8:03 I love how the entire premise is, "This one student has to present stuff that is not on the syllabus." And they still show students attending. Most of those students would be gone by day 2 or 3. A few probably would've gone to the dept chair to say that they just want to learn and there's this BS going on.
Mainly I don't think this would happen because the other students would get tired of this professor's BS.
lol, Imagine you’re taking college level biology and then for the first semester, your prof just argues with some kid about evolution. I’d at least want some of my tuition back.
Well, to be fair I doubt the writers of the film spent a lot of time in higher education. They write college like it's secondary school.
some professors could get away with it if they had tenure or otherwise strong connections. honestly whats more unrealistic i would argue is that kevin sorbos character cares enough to single the one kid out for debate when he'd probably just continue on regardless with the expectation that the kids gonna fail the class.
True
Couldn’t they share their thoughts on God during office hours? I know I’d write in the evaluation about how the actual syllabus was hijacked because the professor couldn’t stick to it and the student just had to prove his point right then and there. I suppose in the sequels would be the other students take turns discussing what the most pressing issue in their lives- the commute to school, tuition, dorm life, work study conditions, maintaining qualifications for scholarships, even things outside of campus and so forth.
God's Not Dead 2 would have been much better if the teacher was put on trial for witchcraft
I lovveee a good witchcraft story
that would have been a good movie thematically too, a huge problem with Christianity is the infighting that occurs in it. usually started by the unforgiving traditionalist types
@@kloa4219 lookin at the evangelicals
Inherit the Wind meets The Craft? I'm there!
@@Mondomeyer *Inherit
Woman: "I have cancer."
God's Truest Atheist:
**"Couldn't this wait until tomorrow?"**
That’s a terrible way to respond
That’s just… being a asshole
@@alexv3372 They are trying to dehumanize atheists. In all of the GND movies, we're portrayed as monsters.
They genuinely believe it's impossible to be a good person without being a Christian, which is something they outright say in the first movie. That's why they made all atheists into mustache-twirling villains.
I think the real cancer is the religious nuts we met along the way.
@Spencer_W which is crazy to think about considering atheists tend to follow gods words (like not using the church to scam people out of their money) and commands better than Christians do in a lot of cases.
i mean realistically, if a college professor started threatening a student, harassing them because of their religious beliefs, and made a major part of their curriculum circle around their own beliefs, they’re getting fired, or at least investigated. like i know this movie isn’t realistic at all and is supposed to be like “look how evil this atheist is!!!!” but also like. that’s how you can tell these writers have never set foot in a college classroom.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was all projection too - like they're mad they can't force their beliefs on everyone else, so they project it on those evil atheist college professors who keep making the youngins stray from God.
Yea...colleges can't just kick students out of classes because they're paying and the price is so high they can't just "try again" lol
"I've just been made partner" "I think I have cancer". Pretty sure this scene was written and directed by Tommy Wiseau
Speaking of, how do people call The Room "the worst movie ever made" when shit like this excists?! The Room has artistic value.
They need to give Tommy one of these movies. I want Tommy at the helm for God's Not Dead 6!
@@samuellaakso7012 I feel like people should at least have to sit through the entire Camp Blood franchise before they're allowed to call anything "worst movie ever".
Or maybe Wicked World to save time and be slightly less cruel.
If they want to go for their advanced bad movie certificate then we can talk later.
@@toddjones1480 are those atleast fun or so bad it's good-type of movies, or just pure crap?
@@samuellaakso7012 Wicked World is one of the weirdest movies I've seen, on every level, so it at least has that going for it.
Camp Blood series is just pure, dull misery.
I'm Jewish but I have several Christian friends and I am not exaggerating when I say every single one of them despises this franchise even more than I do. It's kind of funny
I said this elsewhere, but as an ex Catholic and ex theatre geek 99% of Christain films are just embarrassing... it is shameful to actually talented religious artists who are being ignored.
I once watched a Christian man talk about this video and his feelings on it were basically that this movie is damaging to Christianity and will absolutely make atheists feel so mocked by it that if they were thinking about converting and then saw this in Church, and heard all the people in the Church boo when the atheists came on screen, they would leave more firmly atheist than when they came in.
And he's right.
Are there any fun Jewish counterpart movies?
@@catpoke9557 For me, it's not that atheists are "mocked" -- because Obvious Strawman is obvious -- but because a large number of Christians apparently think God's Not Dead is good and/or support it with their money. Or they stay silent about it, and don't rock the evangelical boat. Are those the kind of people I want to associate with even, if I suddenly thought God was real?
The irony 🤣
I was in college around the time this movie came out and I literally woke up to someone texting me "God's not dead :)" Like, why did they even have my number?!
Ngl sounds hella scary and ominous
I bet you would prefer if it was a frowny face emoticon, you commulist sicko :v
"It was God himself"
~The people who made this movie, probably
Lol dude it's the big slime
I like how they're like "see how evil and unaccepting Muslims are of people who want to leave the faith for Christianity" as if they wouldn't lose their shit if their kids wanted to convert from Christianity to Islam (which actually happens way more often than the reverse)
A very similar thing happens with Wicca and Paganism as well. If you're a pegan or a witch you're seen as trapped, fooled, and enslaved to Satan (even if you don't even believe in Satan). So they paint a picture that witches are unhappy and just haven't found god yet, even though [some] Christians would gladly tell a witch to believe in their god and should believe in that god forever, or else something bad may happen. So a lot of kids aren't even allowed to read about it or think about it, converting people is only seen as a good thing when it's about their specific god, which I've never liked about Christianity.
Really?
Wow that’s crazy!
I didn’t even know about that
Damm… that’s wild…
Not to sound like a pedant, but... do you have a source for that?
Right. It seems unlikely, not 'cause of their (somewhat) identical epistomologies, but because Christianity is the dominant religion in the US and it has a lot more institutional support. So there's a lot more money going into Christianity and, specifically, conversion borne through bigotry.
@@ewhschriscI don't have a source either but I'd imagine the main factor is, well, oppression in Middle Eastern dictatorships forcing minorities of all religions, including Christianity, to convert
I clicked on this not knowing there were already 4 GND movies and you're telling me they've made a FIFTH ONE?!
Are you kidding me?!
Won’t these people ever learn ?!
What’s next a sixth one?!
i honestly thought there was only one for the longest time
I’d only heard of them making two before today.
@@alexv3372 Before you know it, they'll do a 666th film, ironically speaking.
I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THERE WAS A 4TH MOVIE!
Remember folks: Pat got bored and annoyed for your sins....Hey can you file for tax exempt status? I just had a wild idea.
Hail Pat who flagellates his mind for our sins halley-luau
As someone in their 30s who was homeschooled K-12, I can absolutely attest that homeschooling should be regulated. I was one of the lucky ones where, though my family was very religious, my mom still cared about me having a legitimately good education. And when she reached her limits on her personal knowledge with subjects like math and science, she put me in a charter program which allowed me to go to classes once a week with actual teachers at a charter campus, and then bring assignments home the rest of the week to work on. There were other kids there too, so I got to socialize and learn more of who I was.
I knew a lot of other homeschooled kids who didn't get that supplemental schooling like I did, and I saw them struggle as we got older. Some parents are really well intentioned and think they can do the best for their kids, but teachers get degrees for a reason. And, as you mentioned, many parents who homeschool are not well-intentioned and use it to conceal abuse.
I was just in Middle School when the first movie came out. I remember the hardcore Christians in my family were excited to see it.
I decided to watch it, and this was before I knew what Christian Nationalists were. Even back then, the movie felt very creepy. Almost like indoctrination. Especially the part about the Muslim family…it really struck a nerve with me even when I was a Christian, because I knew that Muslims are nothing like this film portrayed then as.
Honestly throughout the franchise, it portrays non-Christians very bizarrely. I think the writers lack the vision and perspective to actually develop and portray them with humanity.
@@myfriendscallmepat The theme of the movie is god is real, and correct. Atheists are full of themselves, and evil. Not to mention it’s rooted in the idea that Christians are persecuted.
It’s a bit scary to see people buy into this kind of propaganda.
YEAH I was in middle school at the time too and I remember being especially upset about the Muslim family. My aunt and uncle had a college student from a majority Muslim country living in their house while I was growing up and I suspect having him in the family may have helped safeguard me from a lot of the islamophobic sentiment I was surrounded by growing up. This movie frustrated me so much at the time because it felt like everyone at the Christian school I went to at the time loved it and I could tell it was extremely dishonest about how the world actually was.
@@katl.7022 If you want more dishonesty, just keep reading the Bible. Not trying to bash Christians who take good morals from the Bible, but religion has always been a fabricated lie to justify more fabricated lies. From ancient Sumerians, to the first Canaanite Jews, to the Crusades; it’s all been used to justify atrocities. God’s Not Dead is just the next stepping stone for Christians to turn North America into a Theocracy.
The bad father beating his daughter scene is ironic considering religious extremists of every ilk tend to beat their children. So the people making this film should know what it looks like.
The scene plays out exactly like what happens to a lot of LGBT kids when they come out to their religious parents, but I doubt the filmmakers were self-aware enough to see the irony
the bible is very clear about how it's pro-child beating
Plus religious american conservatives are the ones that talk about wanting to bring back spanking and beating kids. They also talk about "bringing back bullying because kids are too soft". Total hypocrisy and special pleading.
Of course the professor does not believe in the Christian god, after all he is Hercules, son of Zeus.
Plus, he knows God is definitely dead. Because he's the one who killed him.😅
The notion of "if you hate God, then he must be real" is funny because of how this can be interchanged. If I was in the movie universe and I say "I hate Freddy Kreuger", would that suddenly make everyone believe the character is real and a sleepless crisis ensues? Would the God's Not Dead movies suddenly become a Nightmare on Elm Street prequel?
What does it say if you are just unsure or ambivalent about God's existance? 😂
@@Memento_Mori_Morals Impossible. Either you believe in God or you're an antagonist.
Even funnier when Shane had no way of knowing Kevin Sorbo’s tragic backstory. The entire Few Good Men-esque ending would have flopped if Sorbo’s character was actually an atheist.
"Watching every terrible 'God's Not Dead' movie in 2024" is redundant. They're all terrible.
Dude! You beat me to it! Great job. 😂
God’s not dead 3 wasn’t that bad from what I heard
God's not Dead 6 will be better because it will have Epic Kaiju fights! Trust!
i work at a movie theater and read the description for the newest one and it was something like “does god have a place in politics still?” i was seriously jaw dropped seeing this movie play at the same time as the forge and a movie called am i racist 😭 its crazy
So are all theists. You believe in something, I’ll send you to see him.
The crazy thing is, I had a philosophy professor in college that was maybe 10% the level of the guy in the movie. He got fired. After one semester.
lol
lmao even
"In the name of tolerance and diversity i say we destroy her" is such a fucking hilarious line.
Metcalfe did a good job with the script he was given tbh
The fact that every non Christian main character from the first movie was punished or hurt in some way down the line is utterly insane. Especially since the whole point of that movie was making believers out of non believers. The philosophy teacher got killed after deciding to convert to Christianity and make amends with his partner, the liberal gets cancer and broken up with by her lover, and with the Muslim family the daughter gets into a devastating car crash after being a Christian years down the line. Every single one of theme eventually turns to go whether that’s right as they get punished, after they punished, or well well before they get punished it leaves this acrid taste that no matter what you do the fact you weren’t born of Christian means you must be punished (unless you’re an abusive father who beat his daughter for becoming Christian). Hell you could even spin the Muslim family one where the daughter was punished because her father didn’t believe in god since he was the main emotional point of that whole interaction.
It’s utterly horrifying how much hatred towards non believers the evangelical Christians have that even in a movie where the whole point if non believers become believers they can’t have their “not them” get off for free (again unless you’re an abusive father who beat his daughter for becoming a Christian).
HOMOSEXUAL AND UNIMPRESSED needs to be on a T-shirt.
😂😂
God yes. I'd wear it.
Gay and unpleased
Fruity and indifferent
I like that you have a French revolutionary calendar on the wall behind your monitor. This is exactly the kind of nerd I want TH-cam to be serving me more of.
I have to replace it soon I'm so sad, lasted a good four years though
Dang! Your eyesight is phenomenal.
The first movie came out around the time I was in school and I always thought it was funny how they portrayed the relationship between the Christian student and the atheist professor. The persecution complex is so strong in this series. I’m Christian and one of my favorite professors was my atheist poli science/philosophy professor. His whole thing was you should be able to defend what you believe, and simply saying “I don’t know isn’t good enough”. Even during our discussions it was never antagonistic and I learned so much from him.
He pretty much chill like that?
Respect dude 🫡
And you still have your faith right?
@@djamtz right now I’m still figuring out where I am. I think the last few years of seeing some Christians act power hungry and treat those the Bible says to help with such hatred and contempt has done more harm to my faith than my professor asking questions.
I think "I don't know" is occasionally okay. I mean, ultimately, EVERY belief eventually leads to "I don't know." But I guess maybe he was saying that every time you realize something you don't know, you should try to find an answer? Even if you never succeed in it. I think I could agree to that. It's always great to try to find the answers even if it may not be possible.
Imagine getting an auto 100% for 1/3rd of your final grade just by signing a piece of paper and still saying no
I would ask "WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS PAT?" But I would be lying if I said I wasn't waiting on someone to watch all the new movies and talk about how terrible they are 😭
Your sacrifice is appreciated 🙏🏻
As a wannabe writer, I wish I could bottle the confidence of writers who set out to write legal thrillers with the knowledge base of having heard of The Devil & Daniel Webster once.
These movies make Ace Attorney look like an incredibly well-researched and accurate legal documentary.
Two things:
1. As someone who was indoctrinated as a kid, I can indeed confirm that Christians say “God is good all the time, and all the time, God is good.” Our pastor literally ended every Sunday sermon with that line.
2. You reminded me that My Gym Partner Is A Monkey exists and that is honestly cursed. That show was like a fever dream.
#1 was very, very much taken from Black churches which is just a particular kind of special when white evangelicals do it.
#1 sounds like a very evangelical mega-churchy thing
Somehow I managed to avoid that. And my church wouldn't let my brother volunteer in the daycare because he cut his hair short. If you're wondering why, well, my brother's trans and this was before he came out.
My Gym Partner is A Monkey was the best kind of fever dream imo.
Man I loved that show. It was so silly
@@Malkmusianful they also say it at the catholic church i grew up in so who's to say?
I GOT A PUREFLIX AD IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS???
bruh TH-cam moment😂
TH-cam works in mysterious ways...
OMG?!
Yikes!
Just so you know, the high number of non-subscribers is actually kind of a good thing, because it means the algorithm likes you and shows your stuff to a lot of people.
Only if people actually end up subscribing tho 😭
@@tatertotbobaandpieckYou get money for each individual view, not for subs. Subs are good because they give you somewhat of a safety net and, for some reason as of late, also unlock more features for you to make your video better?? Which makes no sense because that means it's harder to get subs now... Since people who have them have access to more features to improve the experience... But whatever, that's not relevant lol
The point is that someone with a million subs whose video never gets shown to anyone outside of their subs is very likely going to do worse financially than someone with less subs whose videos get shown to millions of random people. Subs actually don't click on videos by people they're subscribed to very often.
One important thing Pat didn't mention is that the credits of each movie have real life court cases that inspired the movies.
Except if you look up those cases they are all far worse, things like a school counselor getting in trouble for refusing to work with gay students or a nunnery suing the government because they had the option to have birth control covered under Obamacare.
As a devout Christian with a philosophy degree, I guarantee that I resent these movies more than the vast majority of atheists. Thanks for managing to make the analysis entertaining even if I was fuming for pretty much the entire video 😅
In the past few years, Christianity went from a highly regarded religion to "the religion that keeps us from having nice things like proper schools and healthcare."
It’s how it intertwined with politics in the US. Christianity is an incredibly diverse, incredibly broad belief system especially here in the United States, but if you’re interested in learning how the religion (specifically white, conservative evangelical Christians and nationalists) became such a driving political force in the modern day I recommend you read “Preparing for War” by Bradley Onishi and “Jesus and John Wayne” (I forget the author). Both very good, informative reads.
@@minnesotarailfan12 another great source is Rick Perlstein, whose been writing a series of detailed examinations of the development of the modern right wing in America.
so far there are 4 books in the series, and he just got up to Reagan, who is the first president to successfully unite both the reactionary fundamentalist/nationalist Christian base with neoliberal business interests. they’re super interesting and insightful books, and they really put modern politics into context.
@@severalwolves Thanks, I’ll check them out!
More like people have realized that over the years, it has always been that way for the most part.
I don’t think it’s been the last few years more like last 50 years. You should listen to the song “cannons of Christianity” by Phil Ochs from the 60s
As Christian
I hate Christian media other than like the Prince of Egypt and Veggietales
Very fair. Those are actually great animation projects
I love prince of egypt! 90 percent of Christian media is atrocious. Pureflix actually made a christian movie thats a rip-off of saw! But sometimes you find a diamond in the rough!
The prince of Egypt worked because it wasn’t indoctrination, it was just telling a story.
And it was also a beautiful movie to watch.
Movies about religion and with major religious themes work the best when they’re not trying to shove their respective faith down your throat and make everything else seem horrible.
same.
Risen was actually pretty good, it's the story of the crucifiction from the perspective of a Roman soldier who's really fucking confused about this weird cult that shares all money and property among themselves that keeps claiming that the guy who was executed three days ago is a god who came back from the underworld to save everyone from damnation
I feel watching all of the God's Not Dead movies is the very defintion of Lovecraftian horror. Thank you for sacrificing your sanity for this.
Thanks for suffering for our amusement.
I really needed this after walking out of another terrible movie on my Saturday, thank you so much. I hope my suffering provides comedy at the least hehe
"If your ideal father-beating-his-daughter scene involves slow motion, start the fuck over." A truer statement has never been made.
These movies all sound like the "And then everyone started clapping" joke meme.
I immediately subscribed at the “I remain, sitting in my chair, homosexual, and unimpressed.” 0:39
That's where I clicked off
@@Mibit911 Bot!
@@switchie1987 or i just have my own views and opnions?
@@Mibit911 I mean, yeah.
I'm just confused as to why you express them in this way-
It does seem rather silly to click off the video, only to come back just to voice that opinion.
It *does* give an outward appearance of you being a *little* weird, y'know?
By all means, have your opinions.
But like, wouldn't it be better, at least in your mind, to just leave well enough alone?
@@switchie1987 no
Pat. Thank you, I haven't been able to watch someone else watch God's Not Dead and slowly feel their soul leave them in a long time.
When I was a little kid, I saw the movie cover of "God's not dead" at Walmart and assumed it was a horror movie bc I thought the guy on the cover was crossing out the word "not."
I didn't really understand what religion is (I literally went to a summer Bible camp thing for an entire summer and never knew it was religious). Can't remember what I thought of "God" being in the title, but saying anything "is dead" automatically made me believe it was a horror movie.
Underrated comment, "God is dead" would be a awesome eldritch horror movie
@@tyringer8961 I'm technically a writer. Given enough time, I could probably come up with a book plot.
How you can tell the writers are incapable of imagining other religions are real, 100% when the Muslim girl gets in a car wreck, the dad would think that was proof Allah was punishing her for leaving the faith
Pat, was you aware of the 10th anniversary Extended Cut of the first film? It's in the $5 bin at Walmart if you're wanting to torture yourself even more?
Not today Satan!
@@myfriendscallmepatlmao what if I bought u the DVD and shipped it to ya? Lol
Wait, they made an extended cut of God's Not Dead?
WHY?!
@@Malkmusianful because the film was a big hit for the studio and the film still has a following. It's like a couple of years ago, the studio that holds the rights to the OG Left Behind films released a 20th anniversary DVD with a 4k remaster....
"Homosexual and unimpressed" I'm literally saving that under my list of quotes in Google Notes (yes, I will date it and with your name)
If you're on the quote list, that's how you know it's a good line
I'm still looking forward to "God's Not Dead vs. Jason" and "God's Not Dead: Tokyo Drift".
God’s Not Dead 9: Jesus Goes To Hell - The Final (Good) Friday
@@DuelaDent52there’s actually a Bible verse that says Jesus went to hell to preach the gospel. A creative mind could make that into a great movie!
@@catsmom129 That’s partially the pun I was trying to make!
"In the name of tolerance and diversity, I say we DESTROY her!!!!" is one of the funniest lines of dialogue I've ever heard in my life.
I feel both loved and called out lol. Both me and my friends decided to marathon all four God’s Not Dead films almost a year ago with a bunch of alcohol and cake. We came out with all the bottles gone, half the cake eaten, and a feeling of disbelief, misery and…surprising indifference.
I remember when the first movie came out, I actually received a "GOD'S NOT DEAD!!" text from someone in my contacts.
I didn't know what the movie was and I was just like "what does this mean bro"
Had similar experience, but I had a customer tell me "God's not Dead" totally out of nowhere and me, being a 19 yo fast food worker, was just like "Okay? Would you like cornbread or a biscuit with your meal, ma'am?"
Later that year when this movie went to DVD there was a resurgence in ppl talking about it. I politely endured it and, foolishly, was honest when asked if I was a Christian. I said "No. Not really" as I wasn't totally sure what I was yet. The customer was so upset because "How could a sweet young lady like you not be a Christian?!" she proceeded to pray over me then and there at the gas station counter to protect my innocent soul and to ask that Jesus find his way into my heart. Spoiler - He didn't.
I'm still not sure if I should be flattered she was so concerned about me or insulted.
I'm gonna need to see the rest of that video with the two rapping old people. The guy saying the word "what" was what put it over the top for me. Rapping granny has a nice flow too. Girl's got skills.
That video is called rapping for Jesus, otherwise known as Jesus Christ is my N***a, and yes, they say it
It’s called Rappin’ for Jesus, you’re in for a treat
yeah just as a heads up, it’s not exactly Safe For Work material. better keep the headphones on for that bad boy…
I be cutting up Hella to that song
“Erstwhile” actually means “former”
I’m only correcting you because I myself only learned this last week lol
Fuck my malapropism edit check failed lmao (glad to learn though)
"Man, Myth, Messiah" sounds like an awesome band name too ngl
PAT NO, I watched 2 IN a church and it wad so bad, the audience "interaction" made it even worse.
The death of the professor was actually pretty insidious, now that you mention it.
My dad had a Duck Dynasty bible indicating both how popular it got, and how quickly it became dated...
I feel like if God truly wasn't dead they wouldn't need 5 whole movies to prove it
Underrated comment ftw
Yeah but money!
Or the God Cinematic Universe would have more entries than Marvel, it can't be neither
"I remain sitting in my chair homosexual and unimpressed" better be on the merch you eventually drop
After watching GND 2, I can see where the principal got mad at her for going a sentence too far when she quotes the whole "join me in heaven" part. But even then, that's more of a "yo, don't do that again" type issue and not "you're being put on admin leave while we sort this out"
I have to say, whoever wrote this book/script has never been in a university class before.
If I gave out an activity like in GnD1, my faculty board would go "What's your learning objective? What are your measurables? How are you creating an inclusive and equitable classroom? How are you allowing for multiple modes of expressions?" etc. etc. before going into "Do not annoy the largest religious group of the country."
One of the most ridiculous facts about GND1 (and that’s saying something) is that Martin is speaking Cantonese and his father is speaking Mandarin on their phone calls-like did they think people wouldn’t notice 😭
Oh yeah, it didn’t come up in the review but I was confused cuz I’d heard the lines were in Cantonese but it’s explicitly said that he’s from the PRC. Weird stuff!
I mean considering their target audience they probably *did* think that. Or maybe didn't know the difference themselves.
That Christian cinema (Krysten Sinema) sent me. I knew this video was gonna be a banger.
i instantly went to like the video as soon as i saw that joke LOL
@@sofiah44 same!
38:46 I'm Christian and I know what you mean. I know an annoying, crazy Catholic girl who invited me to church once, so I thought fast and got out of it by telling her that I couldn't because of the fact that I sing in chancel choir.
Watching Patrick’s videos are like listening to a cool new band that nobody else has heard of yet. Once Patrick blows up, I’ll get to brag about how I was a fan before it was cool 😎
Thanks boss :)
I'm a Christian, and when I was a teen I watched the original movie so many times. Not necessarily out of my own volition. But the crazy part about this movie, that truly is objectively not good cinema, is that compared to A LOT of other Christian media, _this movie is one of the better ones_. Which truly should say something about the other contemporary Christian movies out there
As a devout Christian we only have like 4 good pieces of Christian media.
Vegie Tales
Chronicles of Narnia
Lord of the Rings
Ultraman
All the others are either so boring or bad. Mostly because unlike those other ones mentioned they dont know how to tie in any actual character of stakes into the faith. Its mostly just a dude being superficially sad about his marriage being bad, choosing to change and then its instantly better.
Real. It’s so annoying honestly because it makes it look like Christians can’t make good media. They can, it’s just that a lot of the mainstream stuff sucks
How did you not include "Prince of Egypt"?
... Ultraman is Christian?
@jamesrule1338 when I say that I'm like..40% joking. It was originally created by someone of Christian faith and the general messages are align with Christian doctrine. As well as the early seasons using a lot of Christian imagery in a positive way.
But again it's somewhat of a joke.
There's also Dogma, Saved, and The Prince of Egypt.
"Her normal bread and butter of wine mom racism," got me good.
Damn. I sat to react to the entire Fast and Furious Saga, but THIS feels like actual torture.
At least a few movies in the Fast franchise are tolerable.
@@dohnjoe9211most of them are at least fun popcorn flicks that have decent themes about family. I don’t think god’s not dead has any redeeming qualities
@@geo-fry6372 Believe me that I literally had to stop at one point and chug vodka because the franchise got to a point of stupidity I couldn't handle.
@@my_randomology there’s one scene early in 9 that comes to mind (and it even isn’t when they go to space)
@@my_randomologyTbf that's the only reason I watch the franchise. To see them do stupid shit with cars
I’m a devout Christian and I DESPISE these movies. True religion should be apolitical and philosophically artistic, not brain dead, bigoted propaganda. There’s an absurd divide created by our society that says you must be religious or pro gay rights, or any other sensible thing (separation of ideology and state, importance of science, etc.). I came to Christianity through logic, actual logic, not this nonsense made by morons who make the ignorant claims of Richard Dawkins seem sensible. And I see my faith as a guide for standing up for peace and unconditional love. These are the commands of Jesus Christ. Anyone who says otherwise is either ignorant or a charlatan.
so unbelievably based, kudos to you friend
A faith of love, yes, a religion of it? Lol nowhere near... from the crusades to 2024, Christians too often use their religoin to take rights from others.
Same!
apolitical religion is like apolitical education, oxymoronic.
Interesting. Finding religion has nothing to do with logic though. Faith is basically the suspension of disbelief based on feelings rather than evidence and there's nothing logical about that. However you became reborn, rational thought wasn't part of it.
Pat's not Dad
Yet lol
He's surely a guy
He's mum
I saw this movie and I'm 100% positive that the Chinese guy at 9:39 is supposed to be a metaphor for communism.
Legit thought he was in a prison uniform to symbolize being trapped by this series.
In 8th grade I had to watch this for religion class. The teacher kept praising it as the best movie ever made but when that professor got hit by a car the entire class was giggling. She was very upset. Me & my friends from then still joke about it lol
As a left wing Christian (there’s more of us than right wing Christians but you’ll never know it), I hate how right wing Christians portray us. It really sucks to see being Christian portrayed in such a terrible way. I promise we aren’t crazy like the people in the movies lol.
I am right wingish Christian and this movie franchise makes me want to vomit
Agreed!
Your the first reviewer to mention good luck Charlie. When I first discovered this film i was like the Disney check must have dried up.
Fun fact: Ray Wise plays the Devil in a lesser known TV series called Reaper
And he's the best part.
He also plays Father Leland in Psych
@@daveyellick6685 I like how Ray Wise is always typecasted to be some type of religious figure for some reason.
About 7 years ago, when I was still in church, the youth group organized a movie night with the first two movies on the franchise. I remember being bored out of my mind until the atheist teacher got run over, that's when I burst out laughing because: this guy just converted, got ran over by a car and all that the witnesses can say is "God is good all the time" with smiles on their faces.
I was laughing so hard I had to leave the room to take a breather.
These movies are bad, but man, do they have great comedic timing.
Agreed! The only bits of ironic enjoyment I found from the franchise
What a great start to my saturday. Thanks for your sacrifice Pat 🙏
Glad to be of service, no problem
MASSIVE SPOILERS FOR TWIN PEAKS (go watch it it’s one of the best pieces of art ever made)
I am genuinely so fascinated by the casting of Ray Wise as the villain of God’s Not Dead 2 all because of his (incredibly acted) role in Twin Peaks. Like, if they didn’t know his role in Twin Peaks, then they got EXTREMELY lucky in casting someone who’s most famous role is playing a character who repeatedly molests and murders his daughter as the villain, and if they DO know his role in Twin Peaks, then WOW is that brilliant. Either way, how did he end up here!?
I was homeschooled. For a few years, we participated in a homeschool group where the kids got together at a church once a week and had some “organized class” with volunteer parents. Kids were split by grades, not all in one room. It’s helpful because one of the biggest problems for homeschool kids is lacking social interaction.
Also, being homeschooled meant that I was regulated to hell and back. I had to take twice as many standardized tests as normal students, and when I applied to some colleges, I had to take more advanced tests to prove myself, which I failed and wasn’t admitted. My mom created syllabus for all my high school “classes”, made a transcript for me, the whole nine yards.
almost an hour long video from Pat HELL YEAH!!!
love the orange shirt Pat! Also, my aunt bumped into Judge Pirro in Fairfield CT, she said Pirro was actually quite nice in person and acknowledged a lot of people disagree with her politics.
My church when I was a kid hosted this 4 day long gods not dead movie marathon that my parents forced me to go to and that felt like hell so I can’t imagine watching them in one sitting
AND willingly? Pat's gotta be some kind of masochist lol
shhhh
i was just thinking the first movie would have ended a LOT better if the Wheaton guy was the one who tended to the professor’s injury and took him to the hospital. Maybe there the professor opens up more about his childhood to Wheaton while he comforts him daily. It would have made for a much better shift of power dynamic and showed the “love thy neighbor” biblicality a lot better.
But the evil teacher was an evil atheist! Forgiveness? Irrational grace? Loving thy enemy as one loves a friend? You can’t do that, you only deserve to live if you think like us.
Commenting for the algorithm. Thanks for subjecting yourself to that man 🤟🏽
“Does Jesus not have connections in the BAR?!”
I mean…they’re lawyers so prolly not.
0:34 I’ll keep the “sitting in my chair, homosexual and unimpressed” line for later, in case I need it
'Cause he's livin on the inside
Roarin like a lion
SHE GOT RUN OVER BY A CRAPPY PURPLE SCION
Oh noooo lol
"...homosexual and unimpressed"
Subscribed.
14:42 Comparing God's Not Dead to Dhar Mann is quite fitting ngl.
When the first movie came out i was still deeply in church, attending four times a week. I came out of it disappinted as hell, because the main character never once made an arguement about why god could or should exist. It was literally just prosecution porn. Several followers/friends my age felt the same way. Like, i went in expecting homework and ways to engage with non-believers. All they did was made propoganda that only reinforces the beliefs of the most cult like members of the religion