I read through the negative comments about this tutorial clip. I don't think those comments are wrong, but let's try to look at it from a more open perspective. We all agree that exhaling forcefully while swinging the racket generates power for the smash (similar to exhaling during a push-up). Engaging the abdominal muscles to bend the body while rotating the hips in the air - turning the body from 90 degrees relative to the net to parallel with the net - helps us gain additional power and quickly be ready to move forward for a net kill. Therefore, bending the body is not wrong, but it needs clarification. For stick smashes, since there isn't enough time to get into a full smash position, we combine extending the body and bending it with a lower racket swing. In the case of a full smash, we bend the body while rotating the hips. This ensures that the racket never touches the thigh if we fully extend our arm. Otherwise, if we forcefully bend the body, the racket will hit the thigh and cause injury.
Your body bends slightly as a natural result of unwinding/rotating your hips and throwing your arm out, not because you literally force your back to bend forwards like is being shown in the training. Like when you actually look at what the body is doing, you're arching your back and pushing your non dominant hip forward to tension your body. When you suddenly whip your hip back to force the rotation up your torso it naturally kicks your legs forward in the air, your upper body loses that tension as it whips around, and the swing pulls your upper body forwards a bit. Those last 3 things are what you see as the body "bending forwards". At no point do you engage your muscles to essentially bow down, which is what is being taught and shown in the video... If you're swinging correctly your non-dominant leg should pull away from your swing as your rotate your body as to not hit your thigh, it's not a matter of bending forward to get your racket away. If you're hitting your thigh, your swing is not crossing far enough across your body, or you're swinging too low, or not out in front of you most likely. I normally wouldn't care too much about bad things being taught, but I suspect if someone was taught this and tried to use it for a while they might injure their back... and I don't want to see anyone do that.
Very interesting point. I've not seen other videos about this. By filming my self and comparing to Axelsen, i noticed that I lack the forward bend before impact.
lmao viewers pls dont listen to this. you dont crunch forward, its a diagonal rotational crunch into the opposite hip of your dominant arm. the forward crunch flings your arm into the wrong axis of rotation
I am not deleting this comment because I find this rather amusing. Reminds me of a saying from Plato: “Wise men speak because they have something to say: Fools because they have to say something.” All the biggest smashers in badminton have a very obvious forward bend when they hit. The most pronounced is Lee Zii Jia where he crunches his body down as he hits. Let's just count who else has it... Lee Cheuk Yiu, Lee Chia Hao, Lin Dan, Axelsen... the list goes on. And we are not talking about the variation of smashes from the side, like forehand side no body turn, or backhand/over the head side. This is full frontal, straight smash. There are many variations of smash, many of which we discussed on my website and blog.
@@SteveTalksBadminton Insulting someone doesnt lend your argument credibility. You’re trying to copy pros without knowing whats biomechanically happening in their body. They are indeed bending forward but the hip rotates first. This video shows its like theyre just bending down like theyre bowing which has no hip involvement. On top of that you can already see the swing is ending incorrectly because you cant pronate properly without a rotational force. Youre copying pros like lzj and dissecting their swing from the top down from what youve seen in videos rather than knowing whats happening bottom up. Then youre mistakenly picking this out and emphasising it without knowing why they do it for a coaching lesson which is a common coaching error. There is a reason there is no other video like this because its fundamentally wrong.
@@mango2354 you can pick pick by what both players are performing on the court, after making the kid understand he did not care to move body at all some times,he is doing the same arm/wrist rotation at all times. It would be bonkers even might ruptures the body doing this on the third-court, plus you don't get time to take the next shot, i agree on this one
@@SteveTalksBadminton This is wrong. Forward bending (especially with backward back bending) especially like what is demonstrated here is just dangerous and will just hurt your spine. To achieve power your need rotational power AND a bit of forward (abs) crunch to transmit the power, but not so much as to look down when you hit the shuttle. If you combine both, you get a more diagonal crunch, not forward. Stretch your obliques as much as possible by twisting your torso (like put your shoulders 90 degrees from your hip), now reach for the highest point you can hit with your racket, that's is the most efficient way to generate power. There is no deliberate "forward bending" in there.
I read through the negative comments about this tutorial clip. I don't think those comments are wrong, but let's try to look at it from a more open perspective.
We all agree that exhaling forcefully while swinging the racket generates power for the smash (similar to exhaling during a push-up). Engaging the abdominal muscles to bend the body while rotating the hips in the air - turning the body from 90 degrees relative to the net to parallel with the net - helps us gain additional power and quickly be ready to move forward for a net kill.
Therefore, bending the body is not wrong, but it needs clarification. For stick smashes, since there isn't enough time to get into a full smash position, we combine extending the body and bending it with a lower racket swing. In the case of a full smash, we bend the body while rotating the hips. This ensures that the racket never touches the thigh if we fully extend our arm. Otherwise, if we forcefully bend the body, the racket will hit the thigh and cause injury.
Your body bends slightly as a natural result of unwinding/rotating your hips and throwing your arm out, not because you literally force your back to bend forwards like is being shown in the training. Like when you actually look at what the body is doing, you're arching your back and pushing your non dominant hip forward to tension your body. When you suddenly whip your hip back to force the rotation up your torso it naturally kicks your legs forward in the air, your upper body loses that tension as it whips around, and the swing pulls your upper body forwards a bit. Those last 3 things are what you see as the body "bending forwards". At no point do you engage your muscles to essentially bow down, which is what is being taught and shown in the video...
If you're swinging correctly your non-dominant leg should pull away from your swing as your rotate your body as to not hit your thigh, it's not a matter of bending forward to get your racket away. If you're hitting your thigh, your swing is not crossing far enough across your body, or you're swinging too low, or not out in front of you most likely.
I normally wouldn't care too much about bad things being taught, but I suspect if someone was taught this and tried to use it for a while they might injure their back... and I don't want to see anyone do that.
Very interesting point. I've not seen other videos about this. By filming my self and comparing to Axelsen, i noticed that I lack the forward bend before impact.
The most pronounced lean forward during a full smash is by Lee Zii Jia. And he has the most powerful smash in men's singles.
lmao viewers pls dont listen to this. you dont crunch forward, its a diagonal rotational crunch into the opposite hip of your dominant arm. the forward crunch flings your arm into the wrong axis of rotation
I am not deleting this comment because I find this rather amusing. Reminds me of a saying from Plato: “Wise men speak because they have something to say: Fools because they have to say something.”
All the biggest smashers in badminton have a very obvious forward bend when they hit. The most pronounced is Lee Zii Jia where he crunches his body down as he hits. Let's just count who else has it... Lee Cheuk Yiu, Lee Chia Hao, Lin Dan, Axelsen... the list goes on.
And we are not talking about the variation of smashes from the side, like forehand side no body turn, or backhand/over the head side. This is full frontal, straight smash. There are many variations of smash, many of which we discussed on my website and blog.
@@SteveTalksBadminton Insulting someone doesnt lend your argument credibility. You’re trying to copy pros without knowing whats biomechanically happening in their body. They are indeed bending forward but the hip rotates first. This video shows its like theyre just bending down like theyre bowing which has no hip involvement. On top of that you can already see the swing is ending incorrectly because you cant pronate properly without a rotational force. Youre copying pros like lzj and dissecting their swing from the top down from what youve seen in videos rather than knowing whats happening bottom up. Then youre mistakenly picking this out and emphasising it without knowing why they do it for a coaching lesson which is a common coaching error. There is a reason there is no other video like this because its fundamentally wrong.
lmao
@@mango2354 you can pick pick by what both players are performing on the court, after making the kid understand he did not care to move body at all some times,he is doing the same arm/wrist rotation at all times.
It would be bonkers even might ruptures the body doing this on the third-court, plus you don't get time to take the next shot, i agree on this one
@@SteveTalksBadminton This is wrong. Forward bending (especially with backward back bending) especially like what is demonstrated here is just dangerous and will just hurt your spine. To achieve power your need rotational power AND a bit of forward (abs) crunch to transmit the power, but not so much as to look down when you hit the shuttle. If you combine both, you get a more diagonal crunch, not forward.
Stretch your obliques as much as possible by twisting your torso (like put your shoulders 90 degrees from your hip), now reach for the highest point you can hit with your racket, that's is the most efficient way to generate power. There is no deliberate "forward bending" in there.