@@craigcutler6919 scorpion is literally the ugliest gun on earth, even uglier than your pleb ar you most likely have, or your "hi point just as good" bum
Cz killer? Lets see: - Double the price for same setup. - mags are more than double the price. - A reciprocating bolt charging handle. - heavier. - not much in aftermarket parts. - A set of cheap plastic sights. - A shorter barrel. - not as proven. - warranty support? To me the only thing it's killing is your wallet. For the same price the evo can be outfitted with: -A nice red dot. - 1,000 rounds of ammo. - A really nice range or covert bag. - Cleaning supplies. - A set of rail guards (to get rid of those sharp edges). - Etra mags. - A rail light. - The range fees. - Gas to get to the range. - And lunch after for you and your shooting buddies.
Actually the best brace for the Scorpion is the KES Telescopic brace which comes with the tail hook and its only $350.This in and of its self is better than the GHM9.Look it up you'll see.I'd wish people would do some more research.350+700=$1050 vs 1300+600=$1900-2000...now you tell me which is better. www.safetyharborfirearms.com/products/kes-kompact-entry-stock/product/77-cz-scorpion-evo-3-kes
Have you ever held the GHM-9 in your hands or shot it? I’m not knocking the scorpion, I like it too, but it’s like buying a really fast upgraded Honda vs a Porsche.
@@jzl300z no one is saying not to buy what you want. I have a few items that other people think I'm crazy for buying, but this video is about the scorpion killer. These guns are made for two different markets. And if not, then their scorpion killer is a big flop.
@@MikeLitty69 The GMH9 is objective better. You also act like you cant put a significantly cheaper brace on. I've held a scorpion before and feels like it's made out of McDonalds, happy meal toy plastic.
Lmfao... Glock 21 is a fine weapon as well but are you going to compare it to an HK mk23. I own multiple B&Ts a CZ among others... Pistol for pistol.. B&T can be found for 1200, cz runs 800avg...there is no comparison. You can work a Honda all you want it'll never be a vette or Porsche, your Timex will never be a Rolex... If it's the money your worried about then you should by a tech 9!!
I had the pleasure to shoot both. I like the more "tac" design of the CZ and it shoots well. But I went with buying a GHM9 nonetheless, better built quality, more nimble and fits my grip, arm length perfectly (here in CH it comes with wire polymere folding stock). The mags work with many other B&T pistols & carbines, e.g. KHM9, MP9, APC9 etc. I loooove shooting this thing. And their customer support is excellent. I also use the B&T speedloader which makes loading the 30rd mag super easy. The mags sell here for $40.
I have only tried out the APC9. It's very accurate and with an extremely low recoil but way more expensive than the GHM9. How do you compare shooting both guns?
Until that reciprocating CH blasts your fingers!! I feel like this B&T is like the Scar of PCCs. It's super cool/operator, and pretty expensive for what it is. And yet... Reciprocating CH. Now that I think about it, the Scorpion is a lot like the AR15. It is affordable, just works and plenty of aftermarket parts.
@@StraitClownin909 have you actually shot one? Your hands aren't close to it when you do. And if it is you can switch the charging handle to the other side in less that 5 minutes. They have folding charging handles as well if it's a big concern. I've had both a Scorpion and the GHM9, and the Scorpion feels like a plastic toy compared to the GHM9
geissele makes a trigger group for the GHM9, So it will be an outstanding trigger. And several other companies make aftermarket parts for the gun. You could easily get the price of the GHM9 close to $2500 if you wanted to "fix" something that should already be fixed at that price.
Shit my scorpion micro is way over $2,500. Thats with $150 in mods, my Aimpoint T1, surefire scout and suppressor though. With all that a GHM9 would be 4 grand.
CZ all the way! The aftermarket support for the Scorpion is phenomenal, and its known to be as reliable as they get! No reason to spend double on a gun that really doesn't offer anything more....
@@eyenowrite885 I don't think you read my post? I stated that the aftermarket support is way better for the CZ and it's just as reliable as anything else out there. You can do some research yourself to show that those are indeed facts. Yes, the B&T is a more refined product, but at the end of the day, it offers nothing more than being double the price of the Scorpion...
CZ Scorpion is incredible. I have SB brace as shown for $170 and got myself a Romeo 5 Red Dot. Get a NightStrike Diamond angle foregrip and add some grip tape to handle. PS. Dont forget reverse safety!!
I was alittle lost on the price of the B&T until i got my hands on one and fired it. And now thats my new dream gun. I mean yes thats a steep price but once you get hands on it, it completely reloads your love.
When I held the Evo.. Mpx next to the Ghm9 there was no comparison.. Build quality and finish was so much better in the Ghm9... I have no regrets of paying a little more coin for the quality of this gun.
To be honest, if I were to do it all over again, I might get the GHM9 because it doesn't cost THAT much more than an upgraded Scorpion because I had to do trigger job, grip job, selector, handguard and sights I thought the GHM9 is like 1300 to 1400
I'd love to see the Grand Power Stribog compared to the CZ. Both of these are on my radar. The B&T is nice, but I'm not paying that much for a pistol caliber carbine that's not a HK MP5.
I don't know why people even spend that much on an mp5. It's stamped steel. Ptr can put out a high quality hk91 clone for below a thousand. Then the price of the magazines, $70 when yes granted surplus g3 mags are $10 tops. The mp5 is just overpriced.
Yes, its well made, BUT it is still a direct blow back gun. I have the scorp and it is a fine PCC. Disassembles easily, cleans easily, PLUS now magpul mags!! If magpul makes mags for it, the thing is here to stay for sure, and I'm glad it doesn't take Glock mags, have heard that way TOO much!
How many of you noticed the fact that the CZ is called a Scorpion and the B&T is called a Grass Hopper Mouse(that's not a joke,that's literally what the GHM stands for), a major part of whose diet is scorpions and the damn mouse howls...yep, a mouse that howls and is able to tolerate a scorpion's venomous sting ... Coincidence or competition...?? You decide... 😂I just can't stop laughing at those names...
Hi Marksman TV. You missed to mention the bolt release on the B&T, whicht is located between the trigger guard and the magazin tunnel. So the B&T is fully ambi. Dissassembly / cleaning is not discussed either.
I have both, I am impressed with the CZ but the B&T has my heart with the Glock mags. I just wish my CZ came with a case. I will be upgrading my CZ with some HB industries mods and maybe a comp from SLR Rifleworks.
Manticore mags are the way to go with the CZ Scorpion- much better than stock CZ mags. The B&T is probably a great gun but IMO and just for my applications it's insane to spend that much for blowback 9mm pistol. If American laws concerning SBRs made more sense and there was an affordable stock for the B&T that might sway me a bit. Again, not bagging on B&T, and this is just my opinion. But worldwide sub-guns have largely fallen out of favor in and SBRs have taken up their role. With the right ammo a 5.56 round out of even an 11" barrel is vastly more lethal and capable than any 9mm round and the advantage increases with distance. So as a weapons system for serious use it's harder and harder to justify a submachine gun. So for me the role of the 9mm is in pistols that I can CCW; if the "pistol" is going to be nearly as big as a rifle I'll just use an actual rifle. Great comparison video! I don't think the two firearms are really "competitors" as the B&T as set up in the video is twice the price. They probably are aimed at different markets. Still if you have the cash the B&T looks like a fine weapon. I have the Scorpion, lightly accessorized, and it's superb for the uses I bought it for. You can't go wrong with either.
I like the comparison but for the price difference you could get a mountain of extra magazines, a trijicon MRO, some ammo, and if you'd like, some upgraded parts for the evo for the same price of the base GHM9 with the wildly overpriced brace on it
I have a GHM 45. So... Rolex or Timex watch? Worth the money, and let me tell you, you know that you are holding something solid. Shoots like a dream. Oh, and has the old fashioned bad ass look.
This is like comparing a Ferrari to Dodge Charger. Only someone who can't afford a Ferrari would say the Charger is better. Sorry folks, I've shot both and the feel and recoil response of a suppressed GHM9 is just marvelous. I have an MK18 SBR and shooting the GHM9 is alot more fun.....I know this is hersey to say but I have to be honest.
No shit its more fun, you're shooting a 9mm vs 556. I have a mk18 mod 0 clone and my buddy has a mk18 block 2. Both guns suck dick shooting suppressed even with a PRI CH. It sounds like you have some kind of revelation here saying the B&T is better shooting suppressed than a Di gun! No shit! Shoot a scorpion suppressed, no gas in your face it's a dream! Lets be real, a better comparison between these two would be more like a GT350 mustang vs a porsche 911 turbo. I'm pretty sure the pricing difference is spot on with that one. So go suck a fat one
Considering the difference in price, the CZ is the best option. I own both the pistol and the riffle variants evo's. If I was spending over 2k, I'm going a completely different direction. There are superior calibers for kind of money. I just picked up an fs2000 for $1800. 30 rounds of 223 or 556 in a nice compact configuration.
Do you think it's possible to give your information for your channel to your local gun stores to educate first time buyers and grow your channel and possibly help the gun stores sell more product
Thats like saying the M134 mini gun is in direct competition with the M240. The price of the GHM9 in your configuration is over twice the cost of the CZ. That is not in competition. A direct competition would be a Sig P320 with a Glock 17 or 19. And that "arm brace" on the GHM9....$600 bucks. That is one of the biggest rip offs I have ever seen. All that said I would still rather have the GHM9. The CZ looks like a brick with a butt stock.
GHM is so much better to shoot. Hydraulic buffer makes for significantly faster followup shots on timer when compared to scorpion. 9mm blowback just sucks unless there is a hydraulic buffer to eat up some of that thump.
Actually the best brace for the Scorpion is the KES Telescopic brace which comes with the tail hook and its only $350.This in and of its self is better than the GHM9.Look it up you'll see.I'd wish people would do some more research.350+700=$1050 vs 1300+600=$1900-2000...now you tell me which is better. www.safetyharborfirearms.com/products/kes-kompact-entry-stock/product/77-cz-scorpion-evo-3-kes
James T Kirk have you ever shot a b&t...or better yet a b&t SUPPRESSED??? Bro they are like none other (in my honest opinion). Call me a b&t fanboy but i love b&t products. They run smooth and they run good. You can run em hard and they dont quit. I actually like them better than h&k. That should say alot. And if you get the chance to fire one in full auto...i think you may be sold. Theres tons of expensive rigs out there that the prices can be redic for sure. But when you take it out to the range, youl know where that loot went
Jay thepainter there are adapters for it. I run a franklin armory trigger in mine and I bought the adapter and rocked the sb brace till I could afford the tail hook
I've shot both. Bought the CZ. Not because it's cheaper, but because it's a better gun. Longer barrel, non reciprocating charging handle, ease of takedown, metal sights, etc. The only complaint I had was the grip angle and that can be fixed for $40-$60. CZ is just better.
Needing a tool to get at the bolt of a braced GHM9 and the expensive magazines would have me going for the Scorpion. The Scorpion had a robust aftermarket too.
Literally not even close. These are NOT in anyway shape or form in the same ballpark. The GHM9 eats that pos scorpion alive. It's full ambi, more stock and brace options, Sling, the Gen 2 can swap pistol grip, you can change out barrels and Handguard with ease, you have options of mlok and picatinny as well. The charging handle can be switched to the other side per preference. The quality of work, fit and finish of the GHM is leaps and bounds over the scorpion. I own both and believe when I tell you, the GHM lives up to the hype and it's name. It eats the absolute hell out of the scorpion.
@@sethrich5998 there weren't at first. But B&T started partnering with different companies. Same with the braces. B&T also originally had issues feeding hollowpoints (as they are illegal in Switzerland). But they listen to their customers and fix the issues.
2k? I already have a scorpion. if i was spending 2k, id go with a ptr 9ct mp5 clone. also, tailhooks are expensive; but not $600... is it that price for the b & t specifically? I have a tail hook on an AR pistol, it cost $250. not hatin on b & t, their history is incredible, especially in the suppressor game (, b & t actually developed the osprey design in the 70s); but their guns are way overpriced...
edward shields I have Both and I love both but the B&T dominates the Scorpion by far. And is so much more reliable but I love my Scorpion as well to tell you the truth I have the strbog too there all great but the B&t just tops over both
@@ashleyogden291 Reliable? How so? All the long term reviews show that both have few if any issues... do you mean reliable like a prada or a gucci, aka a luxury brand that has duped people into thinking that it must be the best if it costs so much? Get a grip.
iI my experience, companies like B&T are precarious at best.... will they be here in ten years? CZ isnt going anywhere! and the scorpion is a well thought out product with great reliability and shootability. The after market support is awesome, unlike the failed taurus 9mm carbine that just dried up and blew away due to poor marketing support.
Lmfao... Glock 21 is a fine weapon as well but are you going to compare it to an HK mk23. I own multiple B&Ts a CZ among others... Pistol for pistol.. B&T can be found for 1200, cz runs 800avg...there is no comparison. You can work a Honda all you want it'll never be a vette or Porsche, your Timex will never be a Rolex... If it's the money your worried about then you should by a tech 9!!
You find it hilarious to compare these two weapons? Just bought the new scorpion micro for $1200 after tax and after $140 in remodding the grip and shitty (stock) controls the gun is unreal. High quality, ergonomic, proven and pretty cool looking. Elite turds like you can go light your money on fire while I outshoot your ass. People call BMW and Mercedes fine cars until you wait a few years and they turn into piles of shit.
Gotta love the comments. Price price price price. I prefer to buy a product I really want. Price is one of many factors. In this case I like the B&T.
Well that scorpion and the B&T is ugly compared to the new scorpion. You guys are like girls, slap a brand name on something and you go a running.
@Cav Trooper 19D So how much apple crap have you bought?
Grabbed the b&t over the scorpion, didn't like all the polymer
@@craigcutler6919 scorpion is literally the ugliest gun on earth, even uglier than your pleb ar you most likely have, or your "hi point just as good" bum
Cz killer?
Lets see:
- Double the price for same setup.
- mags are more than double the price.
- A reciprocating bolt charging handle.
- heavier.
- not much in aftermarket parts.
- A set of cheap plastic sights.
- A shorter barrel.
- not as proven.
- warranty support?
To me the only thing it's killing is your wallet.
For the same price the evo can be outfitted with:
-A nice red dot.
- 1,000 rounds of ammo.
- A really nice range or covert bag.
- Cleaning supplies.
- A set of rail guards (to get rid of those sharp edges).
- Etra mags.
- A rail light.
- The range fees.
- Gas to get to the range.
- And lunch after for you and your shooting buddies.
Actually the best brace for the Scorpion is the KES Telescopic brace which comes with the tail hook and its only $350.This in and of its self is better than the GHM9.Look it up you'll see.I'd wish people would do some more research.350+700=$1050 vs 1300+600=$1900-2000...now you tell me which is better.
www.safetyharborfirearms.com/products/kes-kompact-entry-stock/product/77-cz-scorpion-evo-3-kes
Have you ever held the GHM-9 in your hands or shot it? I’m not knocking the scorpion, I like it too, but it’s like buying a really fast upgraded Honda vs a Porsche.
@@jzl300z no one is saying not to buy what you want. I have a few items that other people think I'm crazy for buying, but this video is about the scorpion killer. These guns are made for two different markets. And if not, then their scorpion killer is a big flop.
@@MikeLitty69 The GMH9 is objective better. You also act like you cant put a significantly cheaper brace on. I've held a scorpion before and feels like it's made out of McDonalds, happy meal toy plastic.
Lmfao... Glock 21 is a fine weapon as well but are you going to compare it to an HK mk23. I own multiple B&Ts a CZ among others... Pistol for pistol.. B&T can be found for 1200, cz runs 800avg...there is no comparison. You can work a Honda all you want it'll never be a vette or Porsche, your Timex will never be a Rolex... If it's the money your worried about then you should by a tech 9!!
I had the pleasure to shoot both. I like the more "tac" design of the CZ and it shoots well. But I went with buying a GHM9 nonetheless, better built quality, more nimble and fits my grip, arm length perfectly (here in CH it comes with wire polymere folding stock). The mags work with many other B&T pistols & carbines, e.g. KHM9, MP9, APC9 etc. I loooove shooting this thing. And their customer support is excellent.
I also use the B&T speedloader which makes loading the 30rd mag super easy. The mags sell here for $40.
I have only tried out the APC9. It's very accurate and with an extremely low recoil but way more expensive than the GHM9. How do you compare shooting both guns?
instablaster
Let me guess, you are praising the cz scorpion because you bought one and want to justify your purchase to the internet
Both are super great weapons. I went with the CZ due to cost... double stamped (suppressor and sbr’ed) optic, light.... it all adds up
Have the B&T and wouldn’t trade it for anything!
Absolutely love my apc9. Prolly my favorite weapon I own besides my x95. Cool thing is the apc9 brace folds. At 17 in, it fits a tiny backpack
Just ordered a GHM9 for $1,100. Can't wait for it to arrive.
Until that reciprocating CH blasts your fingers!! I feel like this B&T is like the Scar of PCCs. It's super cool/operator, and pretty expensive for what it is. And yet... Reciprocating CH. Now that I think about it, the Scorpion is a lot like the AR15. It is affordable, just works and plenty of aftermarket parts.
@@StraitClownin909 have you actually shot one? Your hands aren't close to it when you do. And if it is you can switch the charging handle to the other side in less that 5 minutes. They have folding charging handles as well if it's a big concern. I've had both a Scorpion and the GHM9, and the Scorpion feels like a plastic toy compared to the GHM9
@@StraitClownin909 The reciprocating CH is the best part! Hint: If your fingers are getting blasted, then you have the handle on the wrong side ^_~
geissele makes a trigger group for the GHM9, So it will be an outstanding trigger. And several other companies make aftermarket parts for the gun. You could easily get the price of the GHM9 close to $2500 if you wanted to "fix" something that should already be fixed at that price.
Shit my scorpion micro is way over $2,500. Thats with $150 in mods, my Aimpoint T1, surefire scout and suppressor though. With all that a GHM9 would be 4 grand.
I swear you're the first GunTuber who knows how to say "ambidextrous"!!!
lol, so true everyone says "ambidextrious"
#Truth
CZ all the way! The aftermarket support for the Scorpion is phenomenal, and its known to be as reliable as they get! No reason to spend double on a gun that really doesn't offer anything more....
If you think cz makes a product on par with anything b and t manufactures, then you need to do some research
@@eyenowrite885 I don't think you read my post? I stated that the aftermarket support is way better for the CZ and it's just as reliable as anything else out there. You can do some research yourself to show that those are indeed facts. Yes, the B&T is a more refined product, but at the end of the day, it offers nothing more than being double the price of the Scorpion...
Nice review. BTW. 1/2-28 is not a metric thread size. 1/2 inch outside diameter by 28 threads per inch.
Mike Wiskirchen same thread as a 5.56 AR barrel tip
I got the B&T and love it!
Does it still have feeding failures.
Rich b!tch
Well that scorpion and the B&T is ugly compared to the new scorpion. You guys are like girls, slap a brand name on something and you go a running.
@Cav Trooper 19D somebody is a butt hurt. Pull the stick out.
@@BodhiBodesSchuyler I got it with the tail hook and 3 mags on sale for $1600 so it was too pricey.
Well, I have been shooting my cz for two years and love it but then I’m just recreational. Nice review
CZ Scorpion is incredible. I have SB brace as shown for $170 and got myself a Romeo 5 Red Dot. Get a NightStrike Diamond angle foregrip and add some grip tape to handle.
PS. Dont forget reverse safety!!
I was alittle lost on the price of the B&T until i got my hands on one and fired it. And now thats my new dream gun. I mean yes thats a steep price but once you get hands on it, it completely reloads your love.
When I held the Evo.. Mpx next to the Ghm9 there was no comparison.. Build quality and finish was so much better in the Ghm9... I have no regrets of paying a little more coin for the quality of this gun.
CZ FOR ME
Nah. Not me
To be honest, if I were to do it all over again, I might get the GHM9 because it doesn't cost THAT much more than an upgraded Scorpion because I had to do trigger job, grip job, selector, handguard and sights
I thought the GHM9 is like 1300 to 1400
It's like 1500 with a brace. The brace in this video is the most expensive one you could buy.
I'd love to see the Grand Power Stribog compared to the CZ. Both of these are on my radar. The B&T is nice, but I'm not paying that much for a pistol caliber carbine that's not a HK MP5.
I don't know why people even spend that much on an mp5. It's stamped steel. Ptr can put out a high quality hk91 clone for below a thousand. Then the price of the magazines, $70 when yes granted surplus g3 mags are $10 tops. The mp5 is just overpriced.
Overpriced, yes. But it's an mp5. Very Cool!
Devildog PISTOL CALIBER (carbine)An oxymoron.
Pay that much for an mp5 but not a b&t.. Lol. Do you realize B&t has been supplying hk with parts for years even for the mp5!!
@@TheBiggestIron And it's still consider the prototype for what every sub machine pistol should be.
Scorpion is still a value winner for me, but there's no way they're going to convince me a polymer brace costs $400.
It's $200........
200$ is still a dick move.
It's only that much because they can.
spencer wells that’s average brace cost
@@ndomakongsuh936 I understand this, which is why I said its it's a dick move.
Should be half the price.
Price is one thing but which one shoots better? That is what matters to me.
B&T
FTW
Yes, its well made, BUT it is still a direct blow back gun. I have the scorp and it is a fine PCC. Disassembles easily, cleans easily, PLUS now magpul mags!! If magpul makes mags for it, the thing is here to stay for sure, and I'm glad it doesn't take Glock mags, have heard that way TOO much!
That brace cost $600-$700? WTF??? I'd just get an mpx instead...
They make a stock style Tailhook folding brace for less than $200
All I hear is "I want nice things but I don't have any money."
It cost that much do to the buffer system. You are not just paying for a brace
@@guccitacticool6316 The brace has no buffer system. It's completely contained in the receiver.
muffemod are you sure about that?
How many of you noticed the fact that the CZ is called a Scorpion and the B&T is called a Grass Hopper Mouse(that's not a joke,that's literally what the GHM stands for), a major part of whose diet is scorpions and the damn mouse howls...yep, a mouse that howls and is able to tolerate a scorpion's venomous sting ... Coincidence or competition...?? You decide... 😂I just can't stop laughing at those names...
That shows that the luxury name is afraid to the point they are trying to dunk on a company that isn't as gucci.
Hi Marksman TV. You missed to mention the bolt release on the B&T, whicht is located between the trigger guard and the magazin tunnel. So the B&T is fully ambi. Dissassembly / cleaning is not discussed either.
I think I'd go for the B&T GHM9 and pair it with an HK P7M13
I have both, I am impressed with the CZ but the B&T has my heart with the Glock mags. I just wish my CZ came with a case. I will be upgrading my CZ with some HB industries mods and maybe a comp from SLR Rifleworks.
Got to love the LAWYERS at CZ. "WARNING READ INSTRUCTION MANUAL BEFORE OPERATING!!!"
I noticed that. lol ugh. wtf
Manticore mags are the way to go with the CZ Scorpion- much better than stock CZ mags. The B&T is probably a great gun but IMO and just for my applications it's insane to spend that much for blowback 9mm pistol. If American laws concerning SBRs made more sense and there was an affordable stock for the B&T that might sway me a bit. Again, not bagging on B&T, and this is just my opinion. But worldwide sub-guns have largely fallen out of favor in and SBRs have taken up their role. With the right ammo a 5.56 round out of even an 11" barrel is vastly more lethal and capable than any 9mm round and the advantage increases with distance. So as a weapons system for serious use it's harder and harder to justify a submachine gun. So for me the role of the 9mm is in pistols that I can CCW; if the "pistol" is going to be nearly as big as a rifle I'll just use an actual rifle.
Great comparison video! I don't think the two firearms are really "competitors" as the B&T as set up in the video is twice the price. They probably are aimed at different markets. Still if you have the cash the B&T looks like a fine weapon. I have the Scorpion, lightly accessorized, and it's superb for the uses I bought it for. You can't go wrong with either.
I don’t know wich one to buy !! Thanks for your video. Et bonjour de France 🇫🇷 !
All he had to do was compare the prices and I was like "Scorpion it is then..."
I like the comparison but for the price difference you could get a mountain of extra magazines, a trijicon MRO, some ammo, and if you'd like, some upgraded parts for the evo for the same price of the base GHM9 with the wildly overpriced brace on it
I would go with the cz
1:35 in to vid and I can say that the cz is a winner for me just on the cost alone. Plus the bullpup stock that is in the works.
Yup thanks to Manticore Arms
I think it’s the Swiss. The Swiss really do make some nice looking firearms. I still love my scorpion tho.
The B&T looks to be a 9mm version of the FN/SCAR.
“Cheap guns” lol CZ for me though I own the pistol version and the carbine
In my opinion, the CZ looks better too.
I have a GHM 45. So... Rolex or Timex watch? Worth the money, and let me tell you, you know that you are holding something solid. Shoots like a dream. Oh, and has the old fashioned bad ass look.
Hahahahah, you sound like a fanboi for a luxury brand not like a level headed person.
Your right....level headed is few steps below me....don't sweat it broski....jealousy is a sin.
Great review thanks.
HB trigger spring kit for the Scorpion is a must... 15bucks and 15minutes. 4.5lb trigger...
$9
The winner is...
The Extar EP9 - made in Yuma, AZ includes stock for $420
I would have never heard of the extar if not for you lol. Just bought my scorp today tho lmao
@@Techno_Gecko - congrats!! Would love one!! I've still got to get a 10mm before I work on picking up a sub, but the Scorpion is awesome 👍
Yep. 5 of those is way better than 1 B&T
The $2,000 gun comes with a $2 sling lol. B&T was so thoughtful
The Scorp comes in a cardboard box hahaha. Calm down.
This is like comparing a Ferrari to Dodge Charger. Only someone who can't afford a Ferrari would say the Charger is better. Sorry folks, I've shot both and the feel and recoil response of a suppressed GHM9 is just marvelous. I have an MK18 SBR and shooting the GHM9 is alot more fun.....I know this is hersey to say but I have to be honest.
No shit its more fun, you're shooting a 9mm vs 556. I have a mk18 mod 0 clone and my buddy has a mk18 block 2. Both guns suck dick shooting suppressed even with a PRI CH. It sounds like you have some kind of revelation here saying the B&T is better shooting suppressed than a Di gun! No shit! Shoot a scorpion suppressed, no gas in your face it's a dream! Lets be real, a better comparison between these two would be more like a GT350 mustang vs a porsche 911 turbo. I'm pretty sure the pricing difference is spot on with that one. So go suck a fat one
I’ve had both. I still have the Ghm9.
The ghm9 is like $1000+ cheaper than the SP5, so yes totally worth it
Never have I fired a PCC with a rougher recoil impulse than any CZ Scorpion. Comparing a B&T to a CZ is like comparing a Mercedes to a Buick.
Threading is 1/2 inch by 28 TPI (threads per inch)
Considering the difference in price, the CZ is the best option. I own both the pistol and the riffle variants evo's. If I was spending over 2k, I'm going a completely different direction. There are superior calibers for kind of money. I just picked up an fs2000 for $1800. 30 rounds of 223 or 556 in a nice compact configuration.
So Cris, You have a shop? do you have any of the CZ's in stock now? Let me know I would probably have you send me one to my FFL guy.
Not even comparable, the B&T is better in every way
It’s like comparing a Honda Civic to BMW 3 series.... goes without saying...
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Thats like saying the M134 mini gun is in direct competition with the M240. The price of the GHM9 in your configuration is over twice the cost of the CZ. That is not in competition. A direct competition would be a Sig P320 with a Glock 17 or 19. And that "arm brace" on the GHM9....$600 bucks. That is one of the biggest rip offs I have ever seen. All that said I would still rather have the GHM9. The CZ looks like a brick with a butt stock.
The threads are 1/2”-28 tpi (threads per inch).
How does the cz compare to the angstad 9mm?
I love my CZ. It`s reliable feeds anything and is dead on with a red dot. The BT is sleek and nice enough but twice the price? I`m happy thankyou.
Scorpion is too bulky. I like the sleekness of the other. Get what you pay for.
GHM is so much better to shoot. Hydraulic buffer makes for significantly faster followup shots on timer when compared to scorpion. 9mm blowback just sucks unless there is a hydraulic buffer to eat up some of that thump.
les 2 sont excellents, je les ai testés
, c'est plus qu'une question d’esthétique
Merci !
I just love the look of the scorpion, it’s unique and doesn’t just look like a small semi retarded ar...
To me, the scorpion is the best bang for the buck
The Scorpion is the more economical option, but the quality on the GHM9 can't be beaten.
Stribog, mpx, apc9. top of the heap budget or performance.
2 grand for a 9mm subgun? Yeah i dont think so
The brace mechanism is what makes it so expensive. Mine was no where near that much.
James T Kirk you hit the key word(in my opinion)9-millimeter.
Actually the best brace for the Scorpion is the KES Telescopic brace which comes with the tail hook and its only $350.This in and of its self is better than the GHM9.Look it up you'll see.I'd wish people would do some more research.350+700=$1050 vs 1300+600=$1900-2000...now you tell me which is better.
www.safetyharborfirearms.com/products/kes-kompact-entry-stock/product/77-cz-scorpion-evo-3-kes
James T Kirk have you ever shot a b&t...or better yet a b&t SUPPRESSED??? Bro they are like none other (in my honest opinion). Call me a b&t fanboy but i love b&t products. They run smooth and they run good. You can run em hard and they dont quit. I actually like them better than h&k. That should say alot. And if you get the chance to fire one in full auto...i think you may be sold. Theres tons of expensive rigs out there that the prices can be redic for sure. But when you take it out to the range, youl know where that loot went
James T Kirk but they look so cool
B&T is much better....APC9 👌🏻
In CZ forward assist is possible?
Nice scorpion have the s2 coming
I get to slap the bolt home with the CZ, so I had to go with it.
is this the ghm9 gen 1 or gen 2?
You lost me at 2000 dollars.
Yeah might as well buy an MP5 clone.
@Chris Landry Nobody said the cheaper ones are better, but maybe that they don't see $2000 for a sub gun.
@Chris Landry why are you such a fucking idiot?
Does the sb tactical brace work on the b&t?
Jay thepainter there are adapters for it. I run a franklin armory trigger in mine and I bought the adapter and rocked the sb brace till I could afford the tail hook
I've shot both. Bought the CZ. Not because it's cheaper, but because it's a better gun. Longer barrel, non reciprocating charging handle, ease of takedown, metal sights, etc. The only complaint I had was the grip angle and that can be fixed for $40-$60. CZ is just better.
Needing a tool to get at the bolt of a braced GHM9 and the expensive magazines would have me going for the Scorpion. The Scorpion had a robust aftermarket too.
Literally not even close. These are NOT in anyway shape or form in the same ballpark. The GHM9 eats that pos scorpion alive. It's full ambi, more stock and brace options, Sling, the Gen 2 can swap pistol grip, you can change out barrels and Handguard with ease, you have options of mlok and picatinny as well. The charging handle can be switched to the other side per preference. The quality of work, fit and finish of the GHM is leaps and bounds over the scorpion. I own both and believe when I tell you, the GHM lives up to the hype and it's name. It eats the absolute hell out of the scorpion.
Looks like comparing apples and oranges
Weight differences?
I've read that there's nothing against taking the velcro off
Cz is one of if not my favorite firearms but...
That scorpion looks hideous and the shape drives me crazy.
Eh, I've seen worse..
Just found a barely used scorpion in a 16inch barrel rifle form for 600 dollars.#winning
Both of those should be made to hold a spare mag in the grip.
The ghm9 is definitely overpriced. If it were the same cost of the evo, then I might consider it. Great video!
One is designed by teacher, another by student. Less is more.
In the future, you had to add 4 to $500 to purchase
Yeah the cz is the better option, cz has always kept their prices fair. I'd take a cz, stribog, or sig over b&t.
The fact that B&T didn’t design this for Glock mag use is a big negative.
Except they literally did. There’s Glock mag lower versions too.
@@sethrich5998 there weren't at first. But B&T started partnering with different companies. Same with the braces. B&T also originally had issues feeding hollowpoints (as they are illegal in Switzerland). But they listen to their customers and fix the issues.
Cz are the better guns in world for me cz have the best steel for guns.
B&T is superior in every way
@5:26 tri-lug, not tri-rail
Dont shoot them, that would be crazy.
or ...you could buy 4 stribog sp9 pistols for $2000..
or 5 extar ep 9 pistols
2k? I already have a scorpion. if i was spending 2k, id go with a ptr 9ct mp5 clone. also, tailhooks are expensive; but not $600... is it that price for the b & t specifically? I have a tail hook on an AR pistol, it cost $250. not hatin on b & t, their history is incredible, especially in the suppressor game (, b & t actually developed the osprey design in the 70s); but their guns are way overpriced...
You dont have to go with this 600 dollar price. Being more realist, you're looking at a $1400-1500 braced gun.
I tried to ghost both trigger pulls with you and got cancer...
haha
@@MarksmanTV at least show the reset pull... I felt left hanging man
CZ Scorpion Evo 3 S1
Mine was 1100 as is plus stuff I added to it
for 2 g i'd rather just get a MPX
Mpx is gassy as shit it you're going suppressed
@@williamw9120 if I was going suppressed i'd just get a CZ Scorpion
edward shields I have Both and I love both but the B&T dominates the Scorpion by far. And is so much more reliable but I love my Scorpion as well to tell you the truth I have the strbog too there all great but the B&t just tops over both
@@ashleyogden291 Reliable? How so? All the long term reviews show that both have few if any issues... do you mean reliable like a prada or a gucci, aka a luxury brand that has duped people into thinking that it must be the best if it costs so much? Get a grip.
B&T comes with a stupid case that you can’t even put the gun in it
iI my experience, companies like B&T are precarious at best.... will they be here in ten years? CZ isnt going anywhere! and the scorpion is a well thought out product with great reliability and shootability. The after market support is awesome, unlike the failed taurus 9mm carbine that just dried up and blew away due to poor marketing support.
B&T has multiple military contracts with major powers, including the USA. Do you even know who B&T is? They are about as precarious as FN.
Lol B&T just won a military contract with their APC 9mm. The scorpion is a range toy.
A rather small contract. B and Ts are nice but cant justify the price. Im a "poor" so i got the scorpion
No comparison Purdy color tho
Lmfao... Glock 21 is a fine weapon as well but are you going to compare it to an HK mk23. I own multiple B&Ts a CZ among others... Pistol for pistol.. B&T can be found for 1200, cz runs 800avg...there is no comparison. You can work a Honda all you want it'll never be a vette or Porsche, your Timex will never be a Rolex... If it's the money your worried about then you should by a tech 9!!
I sold my hk and kept my Glock so
You find it hilarious to compare these two weapons? Just bought the new scorpion micro for $1200 after tax and after $140 in remodding the grip and shitty (stock) controls the gun is unreal. High quality, ergonomic, proven and pretty cool looking. Elite turds like you can go light your money on fire while I outshoot your ass. People call BMW and Mercedes fine cars until you wait a few years and they turn into piles of shit.
Ce Zet 🤗
The scorpion is butt ugly the ghm9 craps all over the cz .
Screw it...Buy a Stribog.
O.K.O.K. Rolex vs. Plastic...your choice...