Something about this level of coordination and response to a emergency just really gets me going. I feel terrible for everyone involved but I’m absolutely floored by the expertise and professionalism of everyone responding.
I agree. I was surprised to see this land without fire trucks at the edge of the runway. Not like the story my mom shared with me when I was a kid about a fire truck escort upon landing in Braniff's days. And not like the movies.
Not the way it works in real life. Too much danger of an accident if they are too close. In movies where it is scripted the plane flies over the trucks waiting at the end of the runway then the chase them down arriving just as the plane stops. In reality, like the SUX DC-10 crash planes don't always stay on the runway. Had the FR trucks been waiting anywhere near the runway they would have been part of the accident and unable to help. Better to arrive a few seconds later than not at all
Efoxx, exactly. A lot of people, even firefighters don't understand ARFF (Aircraft Rescue and Firefighting). You don't move your rig until the control tower TELLS you to. There are all kinds of FAA regulations, you absolutely don't freelance.
@@ffjsb Those guys know what to do, and it is correct, things must be said, they cannot assume they can roll down an active runway or taxiway, they have to have ATCT clearance. I know the controller was getting ticked off, and firefighters understand that well, but they have procedures, while people were talking on the radio, there were other crewmembers already putting the wet stuff on the red stuff (yes, I know, AFFF, not plain water). The one responder said something along the lines of, “just to make it official, 27R is closed.” That must be said to make it official and legal (legal in the civil law sense).
first responders at ATL reacted and worked professionally. You wouldn't exoect anything else. Any news why the engine caught fire and a statement from Delta?
@@ronaldrobertson2332 Look closer at precicely the 5 min and 8 second mark. It's a Airport operations Ford Explorer. that vehicle doesn't clean up foam.
When there's a problem with a Delta Plane in Atlanta aka the Delta Airport where the Delta HQ is, there's an EASY chance to get a Delta problem solved especially in Atlanta
Just curious, after they get done putting out the flames with all of that foam that they have to use, with all that that is now on the runway/taxiway, about how long does it normally take for all of to completly evaporate or do they actually do somethng else with it to clear it off of there after everything is all said and done????
Andrew Silva there are some different types of chemicals they put in the foam to ‘choke’ the fire so it goes out faster, especially in this case where it could be jet fuel fed. So if you noticed at the end of the video there was a ‘street sweeper’ that was going back and forth on the taxiway picking up the foam.
The only lack of professionalism was the rudeness of the male controller talking to the fire service personnel. He gave the impression they were second class and not as important and he could talk down to them. In fact they are the *most* important when the plane is stopped on the runway. He needs to learn that.
It is quite interesting that this is quite likely the only real fire these firemen encounter in their whole career at airport fire department. Real fires at airports are extremely rare and they do not get much real fire experience.
I am an aviation fire fighter. We train for the worst and hope for the best. It’s likely I’ll never attend anything more than hot brakes. Though I still love my job.
The ARFF team at Atlanta is run buy the Atlanta fire and rescue department, the fire fighters have more than likely many years experience before moving to to the Airport. I'm sure they would respond to maybe more than 1000 calls a year just at the airport. (first aid, AFAs, MVA, ACFT fuel spills, Hazmat and special service calls
@@michellecrockford5736 I can attest to this. Airport fire departments are always busy with fuel spills, flooded engines igniting, planes crashing into hangars, wing strikes, getting called out when pilots declare an emergency, etc.
It's regulation that airports must have dedicated fire protection, and nobody wants that that aircraft crash, It's usually deadly..... aviation transport still safer than the cars, but everything about aviation is dramatic because we are talking about a man made marvel that is really expensive .....
It was an Airbus 330. It just took off and was full of fuel. Planes have a landing weight and by y the time they reach the destination they have used enough of the fuel to be with in that weight. So the use of the term heavy is informing all people involved of Potential risk such as structural damage to the aircraft or for the fire to expand rapidly because of the amount of Fuel onboard. If you ever heard of aircraft dumping feul they dump enough to be within a safe landing weight.
Airplanes add a suffix to their callsign of HEAVY or SUPER if they are big or huge to give an indication to others of the wake turbulence. Heavy: 300,000 pounds or more maximum certified takeoff weight, Super: Airbus A-380-800 (A388) and the ANTONOV An-225 (A225)
ATL ARFF is a joke. Took them a ridiculously long time to get to the aircraft. This is clipped heavily. They were told that engine would ignite when the aircraft stopped, and those idiots sat there and watched it for over a minute before they moved towards it. Dirty secret of ATL - ARFF is run by the city. Instead of the way EVERY other fire dept handles ARFF - by permanently stationing firefighters on the airport, the city of ATL rotates ARFF guys through every six months, pays them less than other fire duties pay, and replaces them about the same time they finally start getting comfortable with the airport. Extremely frustrating at best, dangerous for sure. Could tell you a dozen stories about blown responses by ATL ARFF equipment. The yelling you hear here was deserved, and a culmination of years of issues.
Yeah, there are no youtube videos of the thousands of flights without problems. All we see are the rare dramatic incidents, which skews our perception.
That controller needed retraining. He shouldn’t be saying what he said about “I don’t care who you are. Get on the runway and put out the fire.” He should be used to directing aircraft all day, every day. Directing ground traffic is the same. Whether it’s ARFF 1, Car 3, Ops 2, whatever. Those trucks can’t move onto runways, taxiways, etc. until he identifies them by call sign and authorizes their movement. He became overwhelmed and needs remedial training.
Something about this level of coordination and response to a emergency just really gets me going. I feel terrible for everyone involved but I’m absolutely floored by the expertise and professionalism of everyone responding.
"I don't care who you are, get on the runway and put the fire out."
Yeah, I LOL'd
I agree. I was surprised to see this land without fire trucks at the edge of the runway. Not like the story my mom shared with me when I was a kid about a fire truck escort upon landing in Braniff's days. And not like the movies.
Not the way it works in real life. Too much danger of an accident if they are too close. In movies where it is scripted the plane flies over the trucks waiting at the end of the runway then the chase them down arriving just as the plane stops.
In reality, like the SUX DC-10 crash planes don't always stay on the runway. Had the FR trucks been waiting anywhere near the runway they would have been part of the accident and unable to help. Better to arrive a few seconds later than not at all
Efoxx, exactly. A lot of people, even firefighters don't understand ARFF (Aircraft Rescue and Firefighting). You don't move your rig until the control tower TELLS you to. There are all kinds of FAA regulations, you absolutely don't freelance.
@@ffjsb
Those guys know what to do, and it is correct, things must be said, they cannot assume they can roll down an active runway or taxiway, they have to have ATCT clearance. I know the controller was getting ticked off, and firefighters understand that well, but they have procedures, while people were talking on the radio, there were other crewmembers already putting the wet stuff on the red stuff (yes, I know, AFFF, not plain water). The one responder said something along the lines of, “just to make it official, 27R is closed.” That must be said to make it official and legal (legal in the civil law sense).
If only most airports were equipped with HD CCTVs.
I just wished us avgeeks could have 24/7 access to these cameras 🤣
instablaster...
Well done, everyone. No penetration of the passenger compartment, good call keeping the passengers on board.
first responders at ATL reacted and worked professionally. You wouldn't exoect anything else. Any news why the engine caught fire and a statement from Delta?
Those guys are great.
Anyone else notice at 5:08 the ops vehicle doing drifts in the water and foam?? Lol
He had to talk to the boss after that
That was a figment of your imagination
That was a cleaning/sweeper vehicle, cleaning up the foam and other debris off the runway.
@@ronaldrobertson2332 Look closer at precicely the 5 min and 8 second mark. It's a Airport operations Ford Explorer. that vehicle doesn't clean up foam.
Good and fast work guys.Thanks for sharing.
Atlanta Airport is on top of it. Great job by all.
When there's a problem with a Delta Plane in Atlanta aka the Delta Airport where the Delta HQ is, there's an EASY chance to get a Delta problem solved especially in Atlanta
Just curious, after they get done putting out the flames with all of that foam that they have to use, with all that that is now on the runway/taxiway, about how long does it normally take for all of to completly evaporate or do they actually do somethng else with it to clear it off of there after everything is all said and done????
Andrew Silva there are some different types of chemicals they put in the foam to ‘choke’ the fire so it goes out faster, especially in this case where it could be jet fuel fed. So if you noticed at the end of the video there was a ‘street sweeper’ that was going back and forth on the taxiway picking up the foam.
CONGRATS TO THE PASSENGERS THEY SURVIVED!!!
The Passengers that survived from 12pm to 00pm
Awesome footage, mate! 👍
Fantastic job by EVERYONE. True professionalism and excellent training on display here, from the pilots to ATC to the ARFF team.
Thanks very much!
3:06 looks like the foam is running away😂
Go catch those foams
The coordination is very good
What's going on with a330s these days?
The only lack of professionalism was the rudeness of the male controller talking to the fire service personnel. He gave the impression they were second class and not as important and he could talk down to them. In fact they are the *most* important when the plane is stopped on the runway. He needs to learn that.
✋ HIGH FIVE TO EVERYONE! THE FIRE CHIEF COULD USE MORE DECORUM IN HOW TO SPEAK TO OTHERS IN A PROFESSIONAL MANNER
Good job guys
Wait. Is this real-world or simulator?
Real. Sped up with lots of edits, but real. I always wondered how they cleaned up the foamy mess afterward. Now I know.
would be an expensive simulation. those engines are $50 million each
Didn't know they had to clean the taxiway after this. I thought it could disappear in matter of minutes.
No, not that AFFF stuff. It kinda clings to whatever surface its applied to and gets slick.
I was on that flight.
CONGRATS YOU SURVIVED!!!
It is quite interesting that this is quite likely the only real fire these firemen encounter in their whole career at airport fire department. Real fires at airports are extremely rare and they do not get much real fire experience.
I am an aviation fire fighter. We train for the worst and hope for the best. It’s likely I’ll never attend anything more than hot brakes. Though I still love my job.
The ARFF team at Atlanta is run buy the Atlanta fire and rescue department, the fire fighters have more than likely many years experience before moving to to the Airport.
I'm sure they would respond to maybe more than 1000 calls a year just at the airport. (first aid, AFAs, MVA, ACFT fuel spills, Hazmat and special service calls
@@michellecrockford5736 That is a very good practice.
@@michellecrockford5736 I can attest to this. Airport fire departments are always busy with fuel spills, flooded engines igniting, planes crashing into hangars, wing strikes, getting called out when pilots declare an emergency, etc.
It's regulation that airports must have dedicated fire protection, and nobody wants that that aircraft crash, It's usually deadly..... aviation transport still safer than the cars, but everything about aviation is dramatic because we are talking about a man made marvel that is really expensive .....
Nice vid. Could of ended nasty but glad all ok !!!
Could HAVE.
What are those people picking up from the taxiway? Engine parts?
Yes. EVERYTHING gets picked up, down to a stray pebble. Anything at all that's loose can get sucked up into a jet engine.
ffjsb After being out on a flight line for a job that's not true. The amount of crap was scary.
Well just because you guys did a crappy job doesn't mean it's not true elsewhere.
🤔... Probably loose change, HEY A QUARTER!!! 😃!!
Ground folk, including ARFF are just not that great with the radio.
AFFF = excellent fire fighting agent
I was on that flight
What were the passengers told?
What happened
the plan on the ground why there keep saying heavy
Cause the 777 is a heavy aircraft
It was an Airbus 330. It just took off and was full of fuel. Planes have a landing weight and by y the time they reach the destination they have used enough of the fuel to be with in that weight. So the use of the term heavy is informing all people involved of Potential risk such as structural damage to the aircraft or for the fire to expand rapidly because of the amount of Fuel onboard. If you ever heard of aircraft dumping feul they
dump enough to be within a safe landing weight.
Airplanes add a suffix to their callsign of HEAVY or SUPER if they are big or huge to give an indication to others of the wake turbulence. Heavy: 300,000 pounds or more maximum certified takeoff weight, Super: Airbus A-380-800 (A388) and the ANTONOV An-225 (A225)
I take it the runways fouled till they clean the foam off? way to go super tug
Yes, that AFFF is very sticky.
IMO, they should have turned off on a taxiway to keep the runway clean.
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH the planes on fire. No time for that.
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As maquinas são frágil.
Hi
i live here
the title said "engine fire", did anybody see fire?
a fire warning light = fire until proven otherwise on an ac
@cdimmm - Flames are visible 55 seconds in. Pay better attention.
ER, yes.
Delta's fleet getting very old
ATL ARFF is a joke. Took them a ridiculously long time to get to the aircraft. This is clipped heavily. They were told that engine would ignite when the aircraft stopped, and those idiots sat there and watched it for over a minute before they moved towards it.
Dirty secret of ATL - ARFF is run by the city. Instead of the way EVERY other fire dept handles ARFF - by permanently stationing firefighters on the airport, the city of ATL rotates ARFF guys through every six months, pays them less than other fire duties pay, and replaces them about the same time they finally start getting comfortable with the airport. Extremely frustrating at best, dangerous for sure. Could tell you a dozen stories about blown responses by ATL ARFF equipment. The yelling you hear here was deserved, and a culmination of years of issues.
you jut have no clue how ARFF works
Sure you're probably one of the best arff certified people out there
Engines keep exploding or catching on fire recently. Hmmmm.
compared to the sheer number of ac flying, takeoffs and landings each and every day, and the number of engines in use? No.
Yeah, there are no youtube videos of the thousands of flights without problems. All we see are the rare dramatic incidents, which skews our perception.
Kamikaze pigeons.
That controller needed retraining. He shouldn’t be saying what he said about “I don’t care who you are. Get on the runway and put out the fire.”
He should be used to directing aircraft all day, every day. Directing ground traffic is the same. Whether it’s ARFF 1, Car 3, Ops 2, whatever. Those trucks can’t move onto runways, taxiways, etc. until he identifies them by call sign and authorizes their movement.
He became overwhelmed and needs remedial training.
Turn your wings lights off!!! U looking for ice?
This is fake. It's from a game simulation.
You're not real, you were made in a glass tube 😉👍
Great videos! I'm sub'd!