Very interesting guest! Thanks Fred for inviting such quality game designers and letting them the room to share their views. Now I am very keen to get a copy of Indonesia 😅
Good interview, I could listen to you guys for another hour or two. :) Looking forward to the new Indonesia and Ur: 1830 BC teaching/demo from Joris and/or Jeroen!
Very interesting conversation around an a-colonial game (does that make it exotic? or utopian?). Not sure whether Joris Wiersinga has a fascination with cut-throat capitalism or is critical of it (or both?). But insofar this game modelizes it in an efficient way, people may draw their own conclusions (as I do when reading the Economist ;-) Thank you Fred for your broadmindedness!
I think it's a very interesting a-historical approach, quite unique and intriguing. Regarding the argument about capitalism, in my opinion is that it is a critical fascination for the way it works. Quite nuanced, and also super fun.
@@HomoLudens1871 I've subscribed :) I really like your channel because it's not solely about the ludic elements but you also bring up the social-political/historical/philosophical ideas and presuppositions in table games.
Great interview as usual, thanks for that! I've greatly enjoyed Splotten's better-known games as I own a few of them in my game library (Food Chain Magnate, Antiquity) and I'm very excited about the re-release of Indonisia, I'm looking forward to it. But it's also a good overview of earlier games that I didn't know much about. Just one question: where did you pre-order Ur: 1830 BC ? (as you've piqued my curiosity and probably that of other viewers ...).
Just a note on the 1965-66 Indonesan mass killings: It was not a Muslim government going after the Christians, more like a very bloody coup by pro-Western military going after "communists", a witchhunt that ended up including non-Muslims, but also people of foreign ethnic background (mostly Chinese). (more on Wikipedia) Also, those intra-Indonesian mass killings should not make one forget the dire consequences of over three centuries of Dutch colonialism (including its smaller scale atrocities).
In the interview, I was indeed referring to another part of Indonesia, and another time, namely the Moluccan diaspora en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moluccan_diaspora, Minahasa (north-Sulawesi) and later Papua and Timor. No mass killings at the scale of the Suharto purges, but a lot of people felt/were oppressed and left. Many went to the Netherlands. They, and earlier migrants that did not fit into the Sukarno era Indonesian republic formed a Dutch/Indonesian community in the Netherlands that strongly influenced thinking about Dutch-Indonesian affairs. Dutch society has started to face the darker sides of its colonial past only quite recently.
Excellent interview! I am looking forward to this new edition. 🙂 I hope Splotter Spellen will reprint Roads & Boats again too.
Same, never played it, but really excited to try out this new version.
A nice interview with room for many backgrounds and a well-thought-out vision.
Very interesting guest! Thanks Fred for inviting such quality game designers and letting them the room to share their views. Now I am very keen to get a copy of Indonesia 😅
Also looking forward to getting a copy, I never played it!
What a great and insightful interview. Thank you for that and for all your other great content (get a coffee soon)!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Good interview, I could listen to you guys for another hour or two. :) Looking forward to the new Indonesia and Ur: 1830 BC teaching/demo from Joris and/or Jeroen!
Awesome, thank you! And I'm looking forward to those gaming sessions too.
Great Insights here. And, of course, I am very much looking forward to Indonesia!
Me too! And Ur too 😏
Wonderful conversation, thank you both!
Thanks, I thoroughly enjoyed recording this one!
I didn't expect to learn so much. I just came here for Splotter and now 🤯
That's the Homo Ludens effect 😎
Great video, as always.
I appreciate that
great video, that was my copy of Indonesia at Airecon!!
And it was glorious!
With a title like this i press like first then watch :)
That's the spirit
Very interesting conversation around an a-colonial game (does that make it exotic? or utopian?). Not sure whether Joris Wiersinga has a fascination with cut-throat capitalism or is critical of it (or both?). But insofar this game modelizes it in an efficient way, people may draw their own conclusions (as I do when reading the Economist ;-) Thank you Fred for your broadmindedness!
I think it's a very interesting a-historical approach, quite unique and intriguing. Regarding the argument about capitalism, in my opinion is that it is a critical fascination for the way it works. Quite nuanced, and also super fun.
I wonder if Joris had any particular thing to say about the geography of Indonesia and if/how it influenced the gameplay?
He'll certainly come back for a teach and play once the new version is released, that should be the perfect time to ask!
@@HomoLudens1871 I've subscribed :) I really like your channel because it's not solely about the ludic elements but you also bring up the social-political/historical/philosophical ideas and presuppositions in table games.
Great interview as usual, thanks for that!
I've greatly enjoyed Splotten's better-known games as I own a few of them in my game library (Food Chain Magnate, Antiquity) and I'm very excited about the re-release of Indonisia, I'm looking forward to it.
But it's also a good overview of earlier games that I didn't know much about.
Just one question: where did you pre-order Ur: 1830 BC ? (as you've piqued my curiosity and probably that of other viewers ...).
The reprint is from all aboard games. Pré orders are closed but the game should be available this summer I believe.
Just a note on the 1965-66 Indonesan mass killings: It was not a Muslim government going after the Christians, more like a very bloody coup by pro-Western military going after "communists", a witchhunt that ended up including non-Muslims, but also people of foreign ethnic background (mostly Chinese). (more on Wikipedia)
Also, those intra-Indonesian mass killings should not make one forget the dire consequences of over three centuries of Dutch colonialism (including its smaller scale atrocities).
Yes that's why I was unsure about adding it, but I wanted to highlight some of the political violence post independence.
In the interview, I was indeed referring to another part of Indonesia, and another time, namely the Moluccan diaspora en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moluccan_diaspora, Minahasa (north-Sulawesi) and later Papua and Timor. No mass killings at the scale of the Suharto purges, but a lot of people felt/were oppressed and left. Many went to the Netherlands. They, and earlier migrants that did not fit into the Sukarno era Indonesian republic formed a Dutch/Indonesian community in the Netherlands that strongly influenced thinking about Dutch-Indonesian affairs. Dutch society has started to face the darker sides of its colonial past only quite recently.
An odd coincidence. I was Airecon not that far from the Intro to War Games booth playing a homemade copy of Splotters Greed Inc.
Boardgaming is a small world.
Fred I didn't realise you were such a Splotter fan! I thought you were only a historical/war game fan.
I play a lot of different games, the channel focuses mostly on wargames but I play a lot of different things!
I have that same pnp you saw at airecon
It's an amazing kit!
How strong at Go you have to be to be “decent”?
My very subjective answer would be to be around 1st Dan amateur
ça va encore me coûter cher cette vidéo... 😅
Oui, celle là elle fait mal au portefeuille.