A useful resource to add to your description is Tetresse. It’s a tool that won’t let you place pieces without finesse. In other words if you make a finesse mistake, it’ll tell you the correct finesse on a tooltip and let you place the piece again.
Thanks wawi. Thanks to your introduction to finesse, I finally finished a 0 finesse sprint. The game took 7 minutes to finish but its better than nothing right? Getting used to all the spins is so hard.
thankss. In the time since then, I cut my time down to 2:35. Yea i have trouble understanding how blizz is a human being. I think we all do from time to time haha
this brings me back around two years ago when i started playing tetrio and saw this vid. i was averaging about 1:30 that time when i watched this vid; now, im about 32s
This video is great! I've clocked in hundreds of hours of Tetris over PPT, Tetris Effect and Tetris 99 and I've only just recently decided to get into learning proper finesse to help make my game faster. It's given the game a whole new lease of life for me. Alongside this I'm also working on getting my 40L sprint under 1:30 and then eventually under a minute. Every second I shave off feels so rewarding! I'll definitely be subbing to your channel so I can remember to check out your other videos.
Thank you so much for this tutorial! I like how you break everything down and simplify things, but still are able to give good details. Tetris 99 was what got me into tetris, but I have been branching out and playing other tetris games competitively. I think I've gotten really good, but I've kinda reached my peak and knew I would sooner or later have to bite the bullet and learn finesse. Thanks for the upload, even now a few years later!
If i could mention a few things. Microblizz did get a new world record after that, and the leaderboards are wrong as well so comparing to that is not optimal.
Yeah, my time is behind by like 20s on the board, and as for the record I don't think his is on the board either. I see though, you are very fast player as well all know so xD
I've played Tetris since I was about 6 or 7 one a Sonic Mashup game and I never really liked. The last few months I've put around 400 hours on it and I've been trying to improve a lot and this video although I really already understood these concepts they helped me a bit more. Thank you for the video man it actually helped more than Tafokints.
Thank you Wawi, this was my first introduction to competitive tetris that put me at 30-70apm instantly And is also the first video i recommend to anybody starting out
I just discovered you and I'm so glad you're still making videos. I'm binge-watching all your videos, and I'm slowly but surely improving my skills. I played Tetris with my friends yesterday and they were so surprised by how good I've become, and it's all thanks to you.
I know I already commented on another one of your videos but damn man you got yourself a new sub. I'm enjoying the in-depth tutorials. I know there most likely won't be more but honestly watching anyone better than me will help me improve I feel.
Great video really made me understand finally how Finesse works after many google searches and asking in a discord server i just couldn't understand it but you explained it pretty well!
What got me into tetris is tetris battle on fb and I thought I was godly cuz I win every match after reaching rank 150. I stopped playing for 2 years and got into jstris and boy was I bad. I can move my pieces fine and have a great idea of what to do with my pieces and thinking ahead of time but my 40L clear never went under 1min and turns out I have so many inconsistency. So now I gotta learn finesse to really optimize and be a better player overall. Thanks for the vid!
Thanks for the video I started practicing and managed to get 0 Finesse on a 40L sprint, only took 2:45. Then got 2:19 a day later. It is hard to not screw up cause have to think before my moves. Its fun learning it tho. Trying to slowly get better sprints with 0 Finesse. It's already getting little easier after a day of practicing. Your video helped get me started. Appreciate it.
Thank you for this video! It's really well thought out and I love that you don't just talk about WHAT one shoud do, but also WHY they should do it. Do I understand correctly that you'd advise beginners to start practicing finesse ASAP, or is there some other stuff that's worth understanding well first?
Getting into speed tetris after effect's release just because I've messed around here and there with setups. learned a lot of four wides and stuff just to get big combo counters, but wasn't satisfied with how fast I was playing, so this is a big help.
I've come back to these videos many times. Each time I have a better understanding of what you're explaining. I've made a few tutorials of my own because I was inspired by this channel. I wish you still made more of these and am curious if you still play tetris. I'm currently trying to get decent at keyboard tetris. Never being a pc gamer, it's a whole new thing. lol I need better finesse and a lot more practice with PC's. After that, I think I'll be an okay player. Always improving though.
I still play! making tutorials is exhausting though, it’s like a 20 minute powerpoint presentation with no script lol. however, I’m currently on vacation though, and I regret not making more intermediate and advanced tutorials, so maybe that’s in the cards once I get back...
@@wawitetris5887 I did see you have a bunch of stuff uploaded I haven't watched. I understand how much goes into the tutorials. It's a lot of work for sure. I really appreciate them. Looking forward to more. :D Hope you're having a good vacation.
Since Tetris is such an old game, many of the folks you can find on the internet playing it are either absolute doofuses or absolute gods. In this comment section, though, it's nice to find some fellow souls of folks who want to get better at the game and are on the verge between the noobs and the pros. My PB is 1:39 on 40L, hoping to shave a full 40 seconds off of that after five practice sessions, then I assume progress will be slower! My advice: set ambitious goals, find some like-minded folks, and don't be distracted by other people's over- or underachievement! I find it most rewarding when I notice the self-improvement and allow it to feel good, rather than to compare it to someone who was in a different realm of skill the whole time.
Me looking for Tipps on how to beat the 4th level of Tetris Effect on easy mode: "Allright, maybe this'll get me some tricks I ca-" Sees the clip. "Oookay, time to go back to Minecraft."
@@wawitetris5887 Heh, it's all good. I just can't - for the lack of a better word - "think fast" and once I mess up, it just starts a whole cascade of errors as I'm struggling to find my footing. And before I know it, I've lost. :,D I'unno, maybe Tetris isn't my game. Or I'm just fated to play it casually, on the easiest difficulty available. :P
I'm trying to stick to the left side but it's hard tbh. I end up just building the left side all the way up and barely being able to get any lines completed
Keita you're hesitating too much. Once you have a 4 block tall build and an I tetrimino is next, just plop it in. I know getting a double or triple tetris simultaneously is cool but it's impractical and that's holding you back.
Wonderful presentation! :) Think I'll actually be able to go and learn finesse (properly) soon, heh. (Also, I dunno if it's just me but I thiiink the volume was kinda low?)
first tip: look ahead in the next piece queue me: looks at what the very next piece is other players: already hard dropped 5 pieces in the correct spot edit: one of the tips: try to decrease the amount that you react by knowing where that piece is gonna go ahead of time while on my end, me finding out beforehand where the next piece needs to go takes longer than my reactiontime
This is my strategy. I have a left slot that is 1 wide, and a 2 wide slot above it. The 1 wide slot is for line pieces and the 2 wide slot is for L, square, T, and Z pieces. The right is used to raise the board. I find though that S pieces are the worst pieces. :(
1) if you just commit for the 2 wide rather than doing your hybrid setup it’s probably better for multiplayer 2) the S pieces for your setup can be paired with a T, L, or I. Every time you see S on your next piece queue, try to save one of the others to balance it out. gl! :)
Same here. Just recently I started practicing better typing habits, as I used to use too few fingers and it was hurting my hands. Now I gotta do the same habit changes in tetris, cause my finesse is definitely bad from what I've learned from the video.
For me I have: Left Pinky : LShift Left Thumb : Space Left Ring Finger : Z Left Mid Finger : X Right Thumb : Left Arrow Right Index Finger : Up Arrow (i use 180 rotate) Right Mid Finger : Right Arrow
What advice do you have for PS4 players? I am pretty good at Tetris but, if I go fast, I will sometimes misdrop my pieces. It also will depend if I am versing a CPU player or another person. I tend to have slightly more misdrops against another person than against a CPU. I have been climbing the latter in PPT.
shouldn’t matter too much what system you’re playing on, the fundamentals are the same. people misdrop for different reasons, you gotta watch your replays and figure out why yours happen. I offered to do replay analysis a while ago, but no one took me up on it lol
@@wawitetris5887 OK. I got questions from my brother asking why I watch myself play. It is for flaws and I think about why it happened or it is because it was a great match. Most human replays, I have at least one misdrop.
So I've played using only clockwise rotation for as long as I've played tetris, i changed my controls and am practicing good finesse, any tips for breaking the bad habits like triple rotation?
I have studied and practiced finesse for over 20 hours so far. I have memorized all the movements for all tetrominoes. I use finesse fault SFX on jstris and I beat almost all jstris finesse maps available with 0 finesse. But when I switch to sprint and use all tetrominoes at the same time, I'm always confused about which action to use for each piece.
@@wawitetris5887 yes, I've practiced for about 8 hours today. I'm getting used to it. I did it slowly and managed to finish the sprint in 125 seconds with 0 finesse fault. Before learning finesse, my record was 64 seconds. I believe my effort will pay off someday.
thanks wawi! do you think 40L is the best way to practice getting faster? i like playing on jstris sometimes but most of the time i get ko’d in 20 seconds :-(
playing 40L will get you faster at tetrises, but that may or may not carry over to tspin settups or downstacking depending on whether the limiting factor is your ability to decide where to put the piece or your ability to place the pieces. it’s up to you to determine what the limiting factor is in multiplayer games!
I struggle with using the preview queue 😓 I can't play very fast when I use more than 1 preview and i really don't feel like I'm getting any better at using it. I don't want to focus on finesse until I can use all 5
Shaiann A. on the contrary, finesse will help you use the preview because you won’t need to think about how to get the piece where you want it so you can focus on planning your pieces instead
Could anyone tell me how to transfer DAS to the next piece? I know that you need to keep holding key to keep it.. but what if I need only 1 step and the next piece 2 step and the other next piece to the far borderline (right/left) how to keep DAS active until the end? I couldnt pass 1.6 pps without that and stuck on (probably low) SS (Tetrio) Thanks in Advance if you replying and if youre comment helpful.
10:30 you said rotating clockwise is always gonna round it to the right and then you said where as rotating it clockwise is gonna round it to the left, did you mean counter clockwise
@@wawitetris5887 fuck me ur a legend, all these new tetris people coming to your dedicated channel and getting good information and powerpoint format. I recently got into tetrio like last year and my friend referred me to your channel “powerpoint guy” and so far you’re the only instructive channel that has helped me and the fact you’re still replying to comments like 3 years later. What a legend, my favourite tetris player. Also could you make a video on 2nd all clear and all the way up to like 7 or 10 because there are literally no tutorials, not even on harddrop which only links you to references which kinda suck.
Great video! About finger position, have you ever tried using 4 fingers with the left hand? like 1 extra finger to double rotate in 1 key I'd like to know if it's practically useful
How do you manage to plan ahead your steps by looking forward to the next 4-6 pieces in the queue? I can "process" only one by seeing it's color from my peripheral vision.
Hi Wawi ! What's your point about playing with a controller such as "8Bitdo SF30 Pro" to games like Jstris or Tetrio ? I am a beginner, but I started to play with a controller, I feel more confortable with it. However, I want to be sure I don't have to switch to a keyboard in few months because I reach the controller limit. (I think it's fine, because I know Doremy is playing on PS4 controller, for example, at least on his account named "Sariel")
you can play on a controller if you want, most of this video should still apply (although 180 spins weren’t commonly a thing back when I made this lol). I do think that keyboard has an advantage at the highest level, but unless you’re trying to be top 50 in the world or something, it shouldn’t matter too much
@@wawitetris5887 thanks very much. I've since been playing on that site using your techniques. Man, I've been doing this wrong for many years! I'm obviously slower now while reconfigure my play style but I'm getting better quickly and can see myself playing much faster in the end. Thanks! Subbed.
yeah, I guess I shouldn’t say it’s impossible. but if you look at the leaderboards, almost every run has 101 or 102 pieces. it certainly would require a decent amount of luck
@@wawitetris5887 I'm not exactly sure this reason is relevant. It is not obligatory to use more fingers on keyboard, it is in fact mandatory if you want to have decent speed. You cannot have one finger handling directional movement, one handling turns, one handling hard drop and one handling hold and expect to be fast. The keyboard layout is way too unnatural for this. Keyboard would be really awesome if tetris games allowed hypertapping. Having two sets of controls, asd and 456 for directions, qe79 for turning left and right, space bar for hard drop and 8w for hold. But unfortunately modern tetris games make DAS fastest by a mile.
Thanks for this video, this is the first time I heard about finesse, and I keep practice to optimize it today. Wondering is there any detail about how to exercise it with more efficient?
Wawi Tetris I just finish watching the Perfect Clear Set Ups video and saw you saying part2 will about practice finesse, haha. Really nice series, looking forward to your new videos😀.
I seriously think I'm the best player in the world. Only games I had for gameboy was tetris. Played this game on gameboy version with no hold for 8 years growing up. When I discover hold it was all over. Easy
Thanks for the quickest answer ever ;) so basically it’s because for example doing right (hand) left (hand) right left is quicker than right right left left ?
Can we apreciate that this guy is still liking comments 2 years later?
👀👀
How about 3 jears
@@kneifela5154 lol
@Lukas Müler yes
I'm watching this video in 2x speed so that I can be 2 times faster at Tetris.
*Smart.*
Cool big brain strat
haha very punny u make joke ahahahaha i dying laughing i dead now
@@sweetcisteen ok dude
Underrated
A useful resource to add to your description is Tetresse. It’s a tool that won’t let you place pieces without finesse. In other words if you make a finesse mistake, it’ll tell you the correct finesse on a tooltip and let you place the piece again.
the fact that micro can do it in 17 seconds makes me realize i suck at tetris
That's a bad mindset. Micro has been playing for a long time, so you shouldn't worry.
I'll make you feel worse. Vincehd has done it in 15 seconds
@@kidzogorman8927 Also, I'm not sure how true this is, but the guy apparently is like 15.
@@svendinsvinderlin4569 oh hi nordvpn
@@svendinsvinderlin4569 do you really work
Thanks wawi. Thanks to your introduction to finesse, I finally finished a 0 finesse sprint. The game took 7 minutes to finish but its better than nothing right? Getting used to all the spins is so hard.
Eddie Kim haha nice man. I don't understand how blizz makes 0 finesses errors in his high score on jstris
thankss. In the time since then, I cut my time down to 2:35. Yea i have trouble understanding how blizz is a human being. I think we all do from time to time haha
this tutorial is so well made i wonder if you are a teacher or professor, it felt like i was watching an online lecture by a TA lol. thanks!
this brings me back around two years ago when i started playing tetrio and saw this vid. i was averaging about 1:30 that time when i watched this vid; now, im about 32s
This video is great! I've clocked in hundreds of hours of Tetris over PPT, Tetris Effect and Tetris 99 and I've only just recently decided to get into learning proper finesse to help make my game faster. It's given the game a whole new lease of life for me. Alongside this I'm also working on getting my 40L sprint under 1:30 and then eventually under a minute. Every second I shave off feels so rewarding!
I'll definitely be subbing to your channel so I can remember to check out your other videos.
How does finesse fare on Tetris effect and pyou pyou tetris?
Thank you so much for this tutorial! I like how you break everything down and simplify things, but still are able to give good details. Tetris 99 was what got me into tetris, but I have been branching out and playing other tetris games competitively. I think I've gotten really good, but I've kinda reached my peak and knew I would sooner or later have to bite the bullet and learn finesse. Thanks for the upload, even now a few years later!
If i could mention a few things.
Microblizz did get a new world record after that, and the leaderboards are wrong as well so comparing to that is not optimal.
+Gamster Death both are true. in fact, I'm being a bit of a hypocrite because I've never actually put my sprint score on the leaderboard :P
Yeah, my time is behind by like 20s on the board, and as for the record I don't think his is on the board either. I see though, you are very fast player as well all know so xD
I got to sub 60 a few weeks ago and started to plateau but after watching this I realized my finesse had a few errors, great video btw!
I've played Tetris since I was about 6 or 7 one a Sonic Mashup game and I never really liked. The last few months I've put around 400 hours on it and I've been trying to improve a lot and this video although I really already understood these concepts they helped me a bit more. Thank you for the video man it actually helped more than Tafokints.
lol tafo on blast :P. jk, I love tafo, he’s grown the scene so much
That first video, wow that speed was godly.
yeah microblizz is a beast :D
I’m definitely gonna start playing more seriously but if I could even play 1/4th as fast I’ll probably be happy lmao
It’s 5.5pps so 1/4 isn’t that much (~1.4 pieces per second)
@@frenzzyleggs is microblitz the 2nd fastest?
some Filipino dude just beat his record If i reme
mber i think it was Vince_HD
“it’s not as complicated as you think”
*video is over 20 minutes long*
This video really helped me understand how to optimize my game.
Thank you Wawi, this was my first introduction to competitive tetris that put me at 30-70apm instantly
And is also the first video i recommend to anybody starting out
I just discovered you and I'm so glad you're still making videos. I'm binge-watching all your videos, and I'm slowly but surely improving my skills. I played Tetris with my friends yesterday and they were so surprised by how good I've become, and it's all thanks to you.
I know I already commented on another one of your videos but damn man you got yourself a new sub. I'm enjoying the in-depth tutorials. I know there most likely won't be more but honestly watching anyone better than me will help me improve I feel.
there will be more! I just have some mad wrist issues these days I gotta take care of first, so I’m on hiatus
@@wawitetris5887 That's good to hear about the tutorials, not so much so about your wrist issues. Hope you make a good recovery.
Great video really made me understand finally how Finesse works after many google searches and asking in a discord server i just couldn't understand it but you explained it pretty well!
I would have been happy with 5min video but this guy made 20min powerpoint presentation so even better
What got me into tetris is tetris battle on fb and I thought I was godly cuz I win every match after reaching rank 150. I stopped playing for 2 years and got into jstris and boy was I bad. I can move my pieces fine and have a great idea of what to do with my pieces and thinking ahead of time but my 40L clear never went under 1min and turns out I have so many inconsistency. So now I gotta learn finesse to really optimize and be a better player overall. Thanks for the vid!
Thanks for the video I started practicing and managed to get 0 Finesse on a 40L sprint, only took 2:45. Then got 2:19 a day later. It is hard to not screw up cause have to think before my moves. Its fun learning it tho. Trying to slowly get better sprints with 0 Finesse. It's already getting little easier after a day of practicing. Your video helped get me started. Appreciate it.
this is useful for getting back into tetris
going back to unlearn these bad habits now
The only presentation I’ve actually watch
Thank you for this video! It's really well thought out and I love that you don't just talk about WHAT one shoud do, but also WHY they should do it.
Do I understand correctly that you'd advise beginners to start practicing finesse ASAP, or is there some other stuff that's worth understanding well first?
Getting into speed tetris after effect's release just because I've messed around here and there with setups. learned a lot of four wides and stuff just to get big combo counters, but wasn't satisfied with how fast I was playing, so this is a big help.
Hey thanks man, really helping me break off the rust. Very glad I found your videos.
Helped me a lot! Thanks for the great presentation
I've come back to these videos many times. Each time I have a better understanding of what you're explaining. I've made a few tutorials of my own because I was inspired by this channel. I wish you still made more of these and am curious if you still play tetris. I'm currently trying to get decent at keyboard tetris. Never being a pc gamer, it's a whole new thing. lol I need better finesse and a lot more practice with PC's. After that, I think I'll be an okay player. Always improving though.
I still play! making tutorials is exhausting though, it’s like a 20 minute powerpoint presentation with no script lol. however, I’m currently on vacation though, and I regret not making more intermediate and advanced tutorials, so maybe that’s in the cards once I get back...
@@wawitetris5887 I did see you have a bunch of stuff uploaded I haven't watched. I understand how much goes into the tutorials. It's a lot of work for sure. I really appreciate them. Looking forward to more. :D Hope you're having a good vacation.
The 5 dislikes were Puyo puyo players
Edit: wow it still has 5 dislikes
Edit: OH NO MORE DISLIKES
NOOOOO
damn, you figured it out
*cough*
old but i’m literally here mainly because i’m slow in puyo puyo and i’m trying to find ways to get faster
You're here because of Tetris Battle Royale for Switch xd
TooN X I’m actually so excited
Yes I am
Howww
Bruh how'd you know???
Here to git gud at the only battle royale I like lmao
this was an amazing tutorial....thank you so so much. you're awesome
Since Tetris is such an old game, many of the folks you can find on the internet playing it are either absolute doofuses or absolute gods. In this comment section, though, it's nice to find some fellow souls of folks who want to get better at the game and are on the verge between the noobs and the pros. My PB is 1:39 on 40L, hoping to shave a full 40 seconds off of that after five practice sessions, then I assume progress will be slower!
My advice: set ambitious goals, find some like-minded folks, and don't be distracted by other people's over- or underachievement! I find it most rewarding when I notice the self-improvement and allow it to feel good, rather than to compare it to someone who was in a different realm of skill the whole time.
Thank you for the finesse tutorial!! I'll practice it!
okay, thank you so much!
Me looking for Tipps on how to beat the 4th level of Tetris Effect on easy mode: "Allright, maybe this'll get me some tricks I ca-"
Sees the clip.
"Oookay, time to go back to Minecraft."
Eleanors Fate lol it was meant to inspire, not scare! :(((
@@wawitetris5887 Heh, it's all good. I just can't - for the lack of a better word - "think fast" and once I mess up, it just starts a whole cascade of errors as I'm struggling to find my footing.
And before I know it, I've lost. :,D I'unno, maybe Tetris isn't my game. Or I'm just fated to play it casually, on the easiest difficulty available. :P
I'm trying to stick to the left side but it's hard tbh. I end up just building the left side all the way up and barely being able to get any lines completed
Keita you're hesitating too much.
Once you have a 4 block tall build and an I tetrimino is next, just plop it in.
I know getting a double or triple tetris simultaneously is cool but it's impractical and that's holding you back.
i don't even know where i am supposed to place the pieces
Great video! Thank you.
Thanks so much this video is very useful, because I’m planning to get into Tetris
Great video, WAWI
I can't find an optimal config for my fingers, I use all the turns and moves on my right hand and only SWAP and HARDDROP on left. Any recomend please?
Wonderful presentation! :) Think I'll actually be able to go and learn finesse (properly) soon, heh.
(Also, I dunno if it's just me but I thiiink the volume was kinda low?)
I’m glad you enjoyed it! yeah, I’ve heard the volume thing before and I tried raising it, but then it distorts :/ I probably just need a better mic
first tip: look ahead in the next piece queue
me: looks at what the very next piece is
other players: already hard dropped 5 pieces in the correct spot
edit:
one of the tips: try to decrease the amount that you react by knowing where that piece is gonna go ahead of time
while on my end, me finding out beforehand where the next piece needs to go takes longer than my reactiontime
thanks dude u helped alot for me I'm new to tetris!!!!!!
This is my strategy.
I have a left slot that is 1 wide, and a 2 wide slot above it. The 1 wide slot is for line pieces and the 2 wide slot is for L, square, T, and Z pieces. The right is used to raise the board.
I find though that S pieces are the worst pieces. :(
1) if you just commit for the 2 wide rather than doing your hybrid setup it’s probably better for multiplayer
2) the S pieces for your setup can be paired with a T, L, or I. Every time you see S on your next piece queue, try to save one of the others to balance it out.
gl! :)
Yeah, as you clear down the 2wide, it'll narrow down to a 1wide naturally 🙂
I got 4 minutes on 40 L and this man, jeez
My god you did the best presentation you belong more than 700 subscribers
Lemon Leaf lol I think my posting schedule is too erratic :P
i play tetris so much when i close my eyes i involuntarily play nullpo in my head...
help im never as good in my dreams as i am IRL
same dude, I get 6pps in my dreams :P
When video gaming becomes a school subject teachers are just gonna show this video to demonstrate the history of gaming
But Tetris won’t die ever
I'm stuck at 58 seconds with 60 finesse! I feel like I've probably developed bad habits. I guess it's time to change things up haha.
Same here. Just recently I started practicing better typing habits, as I used to use too few fingers and it was hurting my hands. Now I gotta do the same habit changes in tetris, cause my finesse is definitely bad from what I've learned from the video.
does finesse account for overhangs when it getting it into position?
For me I have:
Left Pinky : LShift
Left Thumb : Space
Left Ring Finger : Z
Left Mid Finger : X
Right Thumb : Left Arrow
Right Index Finger : Up Arrow (i use 180 rotate)
Right Mid Finger : Right Arrow
So far my sprint is 1:56 am hoping the tips here can help me get a better time
What advice do you have for PS4 players? I am pretty good at Tetris but, if I go fast, I will sometimes misdrop my pieces. It also will depend if I am versing a CPU player or another person. I tend to have slightly more misdrops against another person than against a CPU. I have been climbing the latter in PPT.
shouldn’t matter too much what system you’re playing on, the fundamentals are the same. people misdrop for different reasons, you gotta watch your replays and figure out why yours happen. I offered to do replay analysis a while ago, but no one took me up on it lol
@@wawitetris5887
OK. I got questions from my brother asking why I watch myself play. It is for flaws and I think about why it happened or it is because it was a great match. Most human replays, I have at least one misdrop.
So I've played using only clockwise rotation for as long as I've played tetris, i changed my controls and am practicing good finesse, any tips for breaking the bad habits like triple rotation?
What version of Tetris is he playing here? Never seen one that uses the keyboard before.
I have studied and practiced finesse for over 20 hours so far. I have memorized all the movements for all tetrominoes. I use finesse fault SFX on jstris and I beat almost all jstris finesse maps available with 0 finesse. But when I switch to sprint and use all tetrominoes at the same time, I'm always confused about which action to use for each piece.
sounds like you need more practice :) go get some perfect finesse sprint runs!
@@wawitetris5887 yes, I've practiced for about 8 hours today. I'm getting used to it. I did it slowly and managed to finish the sprint in 125 seconds with 0 finesse fault. Before learning finesse, my record was 64 seconds. I believe my effort will pay off someday.
Day 3: I get 103 seconds with 0 finesse fault
nice, it sounds like you’re improving :D
Day 4: I get 82 seconds with 0 finesse fault
thanks wawi! do you think 40L is the best way to practice getting faster? i like playing on jstris sometimes but most of the time i get ko’d in 20 seconds :-(
playing 40L will get you faster at tetrises, but that may or may not carry over to tspin settups or downstacking depending on whether the limiting factor is your ability to decide where to put the piece or your ability to place the pieces. it’s up to you to determine what the limiting factor is in multiplayer games!
I struggle with using the preview queue 😓 I can't play very fast when I use more than 1 preview and i really don't feel like I'm getting any better at using it. I don't want to focus on finesse until I can use all 5
Shaiann A. on the contrary, finesse will help you use the preview because you won’t need to think about how to get the piece where you want it so you can focus on planning your pieces instead
@@wawitetris5887 hmm, okay thank you, that does make sense. I'll keep trying to work on it
Could anyone tell me how to transfer DAS to the next piece? I know that you need to keep holding key to keep it.. but what if I need only 1 step and the next piece 2 step and the other next piece to the far borderline (right/left) how to keep DAS active until the end? I couldnt pass 1.6 pps without that and stuck on (probably low) SS (Tetrio)
Thanks in Advance if you replying and if youre comment helpful.
Are you talking about the DCD setting on Tetrio?
@@tossedbloom no not that
10:30 you said rotating clockwise is always gonna round it to the right and then you said where as rotating it clockwise is gonna round it to the left, did you mean counter clockwise
yeah good catch
@@wawitetris5887 fuck me ur a legend, all these new tetris people coming to your dedicated channel and getting good information and powerpoint format. I recently got into tetrio like last year and my friend referred me to your channel “powerpoint guy” and so far you’re the only instructive channel that has helped me and the fact you’re still replying to comments like 3 years later. What a legend, my favourite tetris player. Also could you make a video on 2nd all clear and all the way up to like 7 or 10 because there are literally no tutorials, not even on harddrop which only links you to references which kinda suck.
thanks for the kind words! I haven’t played much tetris recently, but once I get back into it, sure
@@wawitetris5887 oh thanks, also maybe bt cannon tutorial
Great video! About finger position, have you ever tried using 4 fingers with the left hand? like 1 extra finger to double rotate in 1 key
I'd like to know if it's practically useful
that sounds better than my set up, but I’m in too deep now lol
@@wawitetris5887 haha alright
Any tips on the physical side for pad players? Say for like console PPT or T99 since they can't use keyboard?
Snowcube finesse is the same for controllers
thanks man
How do you manage to plan ahead your steps by looking forward to the next 4-6 pieces in the queue? I can "process" only one by seeing it's color from my peripheral vision.
Rapido251 the key is to think in combination of pieces rather than in single pieces
@@wawitetris5887 Thanks for the fast reply! I will practice it as soon as I can! :)
Thank You!!!
Hi Wawi !
What's your point about playing with a controller such as "8Bitdo SF30 Pro" to games like Jstris or Tetrio ?
I am a beginner, but I started to play with a controller, I feel more confortable with it. However, I want to be sure I don't have to switch to a keyboard in few months because I reach the controller limit. (I think it's fine, because I know Doremy is playing on PS4 controller, for example, at least on his account named "Sariel")
you can play on a controller if you want, most of this video should still apply (although 180 spins weren’t commonly a thing back when I made this lol). I do think that keyboard has an advantage at the highest level, but unless you’re trying to be top 50 in the world or something, it shouldn’t matter too much
@@wawitetris5887 Wow ! Fast answer !
Thanks a lot ! :D
Thank you.
Welp I gotta improve my movement XD. Great vid, it's helped me.
In learning finesse now to improve my gameplay and I was wondering how this applies to new games like tetris 99.
it’s the same besides 180 spins
@@wawitetris5887 sorry. How are 180s different.
they’re not really, but I didn’t cover them in this video
Okay. Thanks.
@@garythacker6731 well, they spin two times for a single keystroke. which also can be manipulated to do some weird spins
What Tetris program/website are you using here to demonstrate? Sorry, you may have mentioned it.
jstris
@@wawitetris5887 thanks very much. I've since been playing on that site using your techniques. Man, I've been doing this wrong for many years! I'm obviously slower now while reconfigure my play style but I'm getting better quickly and can see myself playing much faster in the end. Thanks! Subbed.
omg i recorded a whole tutorial except turns out i wasn't recording fuck my life - lmfao
At what point should i start to worry about finesse? Im currently at a 48 second sprint. I really struggle to play on very high das
Ben wynn you should worry about finesse if you want to move the pieces more efficiently and consistently
How does finesse apply for tucks and twists/spins?
Super Nukey good finesse means using the minimum number of keystrokes to place a piece, so it applies the same
2:43 is the same keyboard I have literally identicle LULW XD coincidence
What if I'm usimg a controller? (since im using just my thumb)
you should still try and use good finesse so you can place pieces by muscle memory, not by thinking about it
so should I keep my finesse as low as possible? I still dont get the finesse scoring or something
yeah you should have as few errors as possible to play as efficiently as possible
@@wawitetris5887 woah you're fast. I'm trying my best in sprint too, My best time is 1:24.757.
@@wawitetris5887 and thanks for the guide
welp, it’s quarantine, so I have nothing better to do xD
@@wawitetris5887 lol
5:22 but but doremy / kaia can finsh a 40l on puyo puyo tetris with a pc cuz it saves a bit
yeah, I guess I shouldn’t say it’s impossible. but if you look at the leaderboards, almost every run has 101 or 102 pieces. it certainly would require a decent amount of luck
@@wawitetris5887 uh huh
holy shit the amount of tabs on the browser
I might be a little adhd :P
Got to go fast.
Do you have any advice for practicing?
find something you want to change about how you play and then repeat it until it becomes a habit
Your video helped, please make a cool setup tut, thanks :)
lol I’ve literally been meaning to make a perfect clear tutorial for over a month now T_T
5:14 are u sure? havent u seen the doremy vid yet?
lol I made this video almost 4 years ago :P
what does 0G stand for in 0G 60Hz SRS ?
Kotori rip zero gravity
Best place to practice finesse?
probably either jstris or tetresse
I watched tips and they always say keep it flat, but they never say how to keep it flat
What would be better, a keyboard, or a controller?
I think a keyboard because you can use more fingers, but I’m biased :P
@@wawitetris5887 I'm not exactly sure this reason is relevant. It is not obligatory to use more fingers on keyboard, it is in fact mandatory if you want to have decent speed. You cannot have one finger handling directional movement, one handling turns, one handling hard drop and one handling hold and expect to be fast. The keyboard layout is way too unnatural for this.
Keyboard would be really awesome if tetris games allowed hypertapping. Having two sets of controls, asd and 456 for directions, qe79 for turning left and right, space bar for hard drop and 8w for hold. But unfortunately modern tetris games make DAS fastest by a mile.
1:12 take two LOL
Thanks for this video, this is the first time I heard about finesse, and I keep practice to optimize it today. Wondering is there any detail about how to exercise it with more efficient?
hmmmm yeah maybe it’s time to start working on a part 2 to this video...
Wawi Tetris I just finish watching the Perfect Clear Set Ups video and saw you saying part2 will about practice finesse, haha. Really nice series, looking forward to your new videos😀.
This felt like a zoom class
What should my das and arr be?
arr should be 1 or 0, das is personal preference. some people even switch das between sprint and multiplayer
@@wawitetris5887 oh wow playing with 0 arr feels really nice. Currently I play with 110 das, what's ur das?
I seriously think I'm the best player in the world. Only games I had for gameboy was tetris. Played this game on gameboy version with no hold for 8 years growing up. When I discover hold it was all over. Easy
this reads like a copypasta
@@wawitetris5887 lol that's how I write on youtube sorry man. You should play me on tetris for switch.
Sounds like you have good fundamentals 🙂
I regret making my counter clockwise keybind to right shift :gorilla:
strats to play fast in tetris is just like CFOP in rubiks cube but i cant seem to do in in tetris lol
1:17 - 1.39 you can see the legendary nom
so playing tetris is like playing a piano?
or a keyboard in this case
IceyPino I think people who play piano tend to have an easier time picking up mechanics in a lot of games including tetris
What if you are on computer
I have no idea where I should say this but one day I got a midgame perfect clear
gj buddy :)
Why is alternate between rotating and tapping more efficient than rotating then tapping ?
Great video btw
Uncle Zigmund you use different fingers
Thanks for the quickest answer ever ;) so basically it’s because for example doing right (hand) left (hand) right left is quicker than right right left left ?
yeah or you can hit both at the same time, and it’s even better
Wawi Tetris oh ok I get it !! Gotta correct my habits now ;) thanks for the advice 🙏