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Hashim: Malkesedek had no mother or father and no genealogies. Jesus, however, had a mother and 2 genealogies. Which is better ? Christian: Jesus hhhhhhh
I can't believe I turned off the Germany vs Spain game to watch this. Reflecting on how far I've come, it's surreal. Once, I couldn't imagine missing a minute of such a high-stakes match between two football giants. But now, my priorities have shifted, and I find myself drawn to something even more significant. This moment marks a profound change in my journey, illustrating the growth and evolution in my interests and values. From fervently following every goal and play to narrowing my focus on what truly matters, it's a testament to how much I've matured.
Christians believe Jesus to be not only the son of god, but a high priest, a king, a messenger, a prophet, the messiah and god. Talk about Blasphemy! WOW.
A true conversation of facts vs feelings. Brother hashims knowledge of the bible is better than the majority of Christian’s living today seems like😂😂☝🏽
You guys need a marker board so the trinitarians can explain via picture. Then they can be held to a point as its right there in front of everyone rather than dodging left and right ad infinitum
Yeah. I really want to see them do it. So the christian cant evade or jump to another point. Really frustrated when they do mental and word gymnastic plus christophilsophy just to answer one question. Brrrr. Alhamdulillah for islam. We dont have this kind of confusions. Our theology really clear.
Maybe dozens of the boards. Doubt if the explanation would come to a conclusion. Probably ot will end as 'you just need to believe and no question anymore please'😂
I'm watching from the US, i have subscribe to your channel, Hashim. may Allah coninue to bless you and all the ummah. I'm happy to be born a muslim, nothing on earth will change me.
One thing that I have always pondered about is why the disciples knowing that Jesus said he was going to die and rise again were all surprised that it happened. This is someone they had walked with for 3 years. There seem to be somthing missing in the narratives. Like in mark going to the tomb and then just going home. That act alone is strange. As if to say someone is trying to push a narrative in the other gospels.
At 6:34 he(christian) is using himself as an example of a person but to make his point, he said we cannot equate the person hood of a man to a divine deity😂. One thing I'll say is this. If Christians can remove one thing from their scripture to make their claim more palatable, it's the removal of concept of 1 god. To remove the verses where Moses, Jesus claims about the unity of God. Cause that's where they are stumped on. They'll gladly say 3 Gods if those verses are not in their scripture. Every attempt to explain the Trinity goes against the unity of God. A heresy.
This guy speaks good english, but when it comes to understanding written english in their Bible, he's all over the place in order to justify his narative and this is a very common issue with the Christians.
Such people no longer know what a person is. Every person is a being, but every being is not a person. Three persons cannot be one being except in a psychiatric institution.
Hashim has to explain to this young man that we, the Muslims, do believe that the Holy Spirit doesn't speak on his own. Also, Jesus conveys what God tells Him.
Im in father means Father believed in him for serving his purpose. The father is in me means his heart is filled with the thoughts and love for the Father
39:00 Alhamdulillah. An idea just popped up my head. This never occurred to me before 😂 Before Abraham I am. I am what? So what if Jesus was before Abraham. Abraham came after alot of Prophet's. So what are they saying? And they can't attribute that to God. They better not please! Because we can easily, easily refute that.
Poor guy, he's not even willing to say "he is in God and God is in him" like he believes because he doesn't claim to be God, but he asked br Hashim 3 times to say that phrase despite knowing fully well br Hashim never claimed to be God 🙄 The confusion and dishonesty of this guy is unbelievable
First of all it was very fruitful conversation; Second thing is that I am watching all debates of speakers corner; I saw one thing which I really loved which is; Whenever someone sincere like this young guy comes and who really wants to seek the truth they don’t get hyper and they don’t ruin the debate and also the Muslims like Hashim hijab shaikh Uthman etc who are doing debate they enjoy the convo with a big smile and at the end they Make dua Also; that may ALLAH SWT give him/her/them or all Humans from now on till the day of judgement hidayah along with us on which we all say AMEEN SUM AMEEN; That is love ❤ MAY ALLAH SWT give hidayah to us and all humans who will come to this world till the last hour AMEEN SUM AMEEN
How did Jesus exist from the beginning and at the same time he was begotten? At what stage was he begotten? To be begotten it means you didn’t exist from the beginning, before he was a human was he a spirit? Or was he always human?
Why did the Disciples and especially Thomas refuse to accept Jesus had returned from the dead after crucifiction? Had Jesus not taught them that his whole purpose was to be God in the flesh who would be crucified, die and resurrect and thereby take away their sins and the sins of the World? Clearly not! Paul and his Church made all this up.
@12:12 he would expect the bible to use such explicit language in this instance, yet he and many other christians are completely fine with taking implicit language and extrapolating it to have such great depth. hypocrisy.
There is no mention in the bible that the glory Jesus had with the father is divine. It definitely was a glory befitting him as a prophet. The proof is that later Jesus says he has shared that very glory he received from the Father with the disciples...
the biblical Jesus is maybe the most incompetent person ever. This is God himself yet...his religion is full of the sayings of others and putting words in his mouth.
This is what JESUS said in The Bible "John 10:30 I and my Father are One." So if you see JESUS (GOD The Son), You have seen The FATHER. As They are ONE . And This is HIS COMMANDMENT for Us to obey "John 13:34-35 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another." He urge Us to Follow PEACE after All Man "Hebrews 12:14 Follow PEACE with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:" And read This also "Matthew 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God." If AnyOne wants to See God, Enter His House of Heaven, Live Your Life PURE and HOLY as what GOD Commanded You to do. There's no such impure, filty, sex in HEAVEN, Do not be deceived My Brothers. GOD Bless, HALLELUIA, AMEN 🤗🤗🤗😇😇😇🙏🙏🙏
I like how you glossed over the rest of the verse. Jesus also said in the same verse, “just like the father and I are, you and I are one”. He was speaking to his disciples, so by your logic, the disciples are also God.
@charsikhan9753 gods (small letter) NOT God (Capital Letter). That's what Bible Teach Us Christian. This is My last for You I hope, *Hebrews 12:14* "Seek peace with all people, and the holiness without which no one can ever see the Lord." HALLELUIA, AMEN 🙏🙏🙏😇😇😇❤️❤️❤️
@@rinaldotapangan3465 I like the little dance you did there to avoid the implication. Christians like you use John 10:30, specifically the line “I and the father are ONE” to try and prove jesus’s divinity. If that is true, then from John 17:11 11And I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, keep them in your name, which you have given me, that they may be one, even as we are one. In jesus’s own words, he and the disciples are one, just as the father and Jesus are one, ergo, your logic would make the discuiples Gods.
@@charsikhan9753 Romans 12:16 Be of the same mind one toward another. Set not your mind on high things, but condescend to things that are lowly. Be not wise in your own conceits. ❤️😇🙏
11:26 this man is not sincere and just wants to follow his desires. He said from God and then he said he is God. How does that make sense? It’s like calling the messenger of the queen the queen just because he carries her message. SMH
36:20. He's still not getting it. That's why they told him to read the whole passage again. The jews claimed that Jesus said he is God. And then at the end (where he stopped reading) Jesus said (paraphrasing) you guys are called gods and I say I am the son of God, how is that blasphemy. Basically he's telling them which is worse? Being called god or son of God.
I’m on minute 15. The Christian is being very insincere. He wants to seem intelligent, but it’s not going good. On minute 50 now. The Christian claiming to know English well, stumbles to answer “who preceded who”. Needing Hashim to elaborate
The absurdity is that the Holy Spirit is supposed to be God but cannot speak on his own; How can God not speak on his own? This is nonsense! The more he tries to defend the nonsense, the more absurd examples he comes up with. Its painful to watch. Ouch!
Mathew 28:16-20....Jesus was speaking to Mathew himself who wrote this gospel is the christian claim. Jesus tells him and the 10 others to go and preach to the whole world. Yet, Christians never asked themselves why the apostles had no clue Jesus gave them the green light to preach to all people. Was Jesus such a terrible teacher or were the apostles such terrible students? Read acts 10 and 11. What convinces the apostles to follow Peter and start preaching to gentiles? Christians don't think. They believe wholeheartedly first ann that is why it's so easy to just quote a verse and take it out of its context. It needs to fit the beliefs first. Usually, we read and then follow. trinity is such a mess that even god was scared to explain it in all his wisdom LOL Befroe we jump to 17:3, we should ask Christians what was jesus' intention in john 16 when he said he wont speak in parables? Ask them if Jesus was competent and intelligent enough as a human to express himself correctly or do they think he needed to be guided like a child? eg how we tell them it's borrow , not lend. why is this important? we see what his followers understood he was right after he explains to them in a clear and concise manner who he is. was he god in flesh or a man sent by god that's a huge difference. if god in all his wisdom speaks clearly and without ambiguity ... and his followers say something that fits muslim beleifs ...then if you're an honest person...ypu'd as yourselves questions. he then goes on to say only the father is the only true god. christians don't think. that's what i have seen. look at how often they will quote emanuel prophecy in isaiah 7 or 9. Ask them what happened in Luke when Jesus went missing? were the actions of mary ( panic , worried and scolding jesus ), teh actions of someone who really thought she had given birth to God?
The confusion that Christians have with regard to their views of God is simply mind boggling. I don't know how they try to rationalize the Trinity. They say Jesus is not the Father, that the Father is not the Holy Spirit and that thr Holy Spirit is not Jesus but they say they are of One God. In the beginning, I thought the Father that Jesus referred to often is God but then according to this man and Christians, the Father is not God but just his essence or nature. So why was Jesus not praying to God then? Why did he pray to a Father who, by all rationalisation is the one who "impregnated" miraculously Mary with Jesus. Why would God need the Father nature or essence to impregnate a human being when all He had to do is Command? When Jesus was crucified, he called to his "Father" why he forsook him. He never prayed to God it seems but just that so called paternal like nature of God the Christians concoted to rationalise Jesus' birth. If the Holy Spirit is indeed the one who was responsible for the miraculous creation of Jesus and the pregnancy of Mary, what need is there of the Father? Why would the Father outsource his paternal duties to yet another divine nature to impregnate Mary? So did the Father or Holy Spirit impregnate Mary and if both, then surely that would be ludicrous. If God simply commanded the miraculous pregnancy and birth of Jesus, that would have been an easier explanation and one which Muslims believe in. But to create the Trinity, a complex web of confusion is spun where the Father is Jesus' father as in one who have divine entanglement with Mary but that which the Father could not achieve on his own but required the services of the Holy Spirit to actualise the pregnancy of Mary and then there is Jesus who is the son but then became a God but is never explicitly claimed to be a God but that he is "One with his Father" which raises the question, what about the Holy Spirit? His role got removed after the miraculous pregnancy of Mary and hardly ever got mentioned much except that Jesus supposedly warned not to criticize or mock the Holy Spirit warning of damnation but that he could be criticised. There in is a strange tale of a despotic nature of Jesus where he allows criticism of himself but not the Holy Spirit. He prayed to the Father but never the Holy Spirit but doesn't like the criticism of the HS. Is it because it casts doubts on his legitimacy and of his birth for it was through the medium of the Holy Spirit through the Father in a complicated two in one efforts, that led to Mary carrying Jesus. But back to yh the Trinity where the Holy Spirit is not the Father and the Father is not Jesus and Jesus is not the Holy Spirit but somehow they are all considered three distinct divine planes of existence each existing seperately but all are One God seems stretching logic and rationality a bit too far. In fact, too far.
Yet another contradiction and conflicting statements in the Bible. "And God said to Moses He is Yehweh. I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob as El-Shaddai-‘God Almighty’-but I did not reveal my name, Yahweh, to them". - Exodus 6:2 & 3 But Abraham who lived some 400 yrs before Moses named a mountain as Yehweh-Yireh . "Abraham named the place Yahweh-Yireh (which means “the LORD will provide”). To this day, people still use that name as a proverb: “On the mountain of the LORD it will be provided.”. - Genesis 22:14 , If God revealed His name (Yehweh) to Moses for the first time, how Abraham who lived long ago knew that name 'Yehweh'?
Christians tend to punctuate sentences with a full stop when it is convenient for them. . Video 36:10 the Christian claims that in John 10:30 Jesus ended his words with "I and my father are One" Wrong!!! the verse continues, Jesus explains to them the miss understanding: 30 I and the Father are one.” 31 Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him, 32 but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?” 33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.” 34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”’[? 35 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came-and Scripture cannot be set aside- 36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?
if you just follow what your bible tells you, and put aside whatever your opinions are, you'd find out that Jesus is a human being, which miracles given by God to him as proof that he is the truth, tells you to worship God, not Jesus himself. put aside your opinions and list out the facts. and know that modern bibles are simply unauthenticated translation of the lost real Gospel of Jesus in Aramaic language.
Hmm. I wonder whom this previous prophet point to when they spoke about this? Jesus use the old testament too point himself when he spoke too the Jews. Child is born, Son is given, HE WILL BE CALLED MIGHTY GOD.😊 Hosea 6:1-2 “Come, let us return to the Lord. He has torn us to pieces but he will heal us; he has injured us but he will bind up our wounds. 2 After two days he will revive us; on the third day he will restore us, that we may live in his presence. Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Daniel 7:13-14 13 “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man,[a] coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all nations and peoples of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.
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Hashim: Malkesedek had no mother or father and no genealogies. Jesus, however, had a mother and 2 genealogies. Which is better ?
Christian: Jesus
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Brother what happening there Allah hafiz ❤️
I can't believe I turned off the Germany vs Spain game to watch this. Reflecting on how far I've come, it's surreal. Once, I couldn't imagine missing a minute of such a high-stakes match between two football giants. But now, my priorities have shifted, and I find myself drawn to something even more significant. This moment marks a profound change in my journey, illustrating the growth and evolution in my interests and values. From fervently following every goal and play to narrowing my focus on what truly matters, it's a testament to how much I've matured.
Don’t want the Germans to win!
Me too. Only watching the live score😅
@@11bover 🤣🤣 love it
👌🏾👌🏾
Allahumma barik ahki! May Allah continue to strengthen your iman Ameen!
Hashim is unbelievable 😂😂😂 ma sha Allah
Islam always the truth❤
Islam is a load of bollox
@@ThePixey1000 only satan who hate islam, satan is enemy in islam (quran surah 35:6)
@@ThePixey1000 only satan who hate islam, satan is the enemy in islam (surah 35:6)
@ThePixey1000😂you misspelled Christianity
Hashim is the Tiger of Speakers corner...no one ever defeat him from day one till now !
Christians believe Jesus to be not only the son of god, but a high priest, a king, a messenger, a prophet, the messiah and god. Talk about Blasphemy! WOW.
Respectful guy but not sincere . May the God OF Jesus PBUH guide Tom 🤲
No Trinitarian is sincere
Agreed
Hashim has crushed this guy sooo badly
when he was swaying in a daze, you can see his trauma - may Allah guide him and give him a good life
Ameen.
Aamin ☝️
😂😂😂😂 Christian theology is a whole of mess !!! May Allah guide the Christians 😢😢😢
@@ismailatiamiyuabdulsalam9496 says the muslim...okay. cool
A true conversation of facts vs feelings. Brother hashims knowledge of the bible is better than the majority of Christian’s living today seems like😂😂☝🏽
You guys need a marker board so the trinitarians can explain via picture. Then they can be held to a point as its right there in front of everyone rather than dodging left and right ad infinitum
Yeah. I really want to see them do it. So the christian cant evade or jump to another point. Really frustrated when they do mental and word gymnastic plus christophilsophy just to answer one question. Brrrr. Alhamdulillah for islam. We dont have this kind of confusions. Our theology really clear.
Maybe dozens of the boards. Doubt if the explanation would come to a conclusion. Probably ot will end as 'you just need to believe and no question anymore please'😂
Should draw the cross with the almost naked man attached to it on the board n pointing to the top, left n right of the cross to prove trinity.
this is very good Dawah❤❤
He admitted it was “multiple gods”
It is not the eyes that are blind, but it is the hearts that are blind - In Surah Al- Hajj, verse 46
I'm watching from the US, i have subscribe to your channel, Hashim. may Allah coninue to bless you and all the ummah. I'm happy to be born a muslim, nothing on earth will change me.
One thing that I have always pondered about is why the disciples knowing that Jesus said he was going to die and rise again were all surprised that it happened. This is someone they had walked with for 3 years. There seem to be somthing missing in the narratives. Like in mark going to the tomb and then just going home. That act alone is strange. As if to say someone is trying to push a narrative in the other gospels.
Great video and Brother Hashim looks good with the shaved head!!!
Alhamdulillah
Indeed it’s not the eyes that are blind but the heart is
❤❤❤❤I love you brother hesham may Allah bless you
At 6:34 he(christian) is using himself as an example of a person but to make his point, he said we cannot equate the person hood of a man to a divine deity😂.
One thing I'll say is this. If Christians can remove one thing from their scripture to make their claim more palatable, it's the removal of concept of 1 god. To remove the verses where Moses, Jesus claims about the unity of God. Cause that's where they are stumped on. They'll gladly say 3 Gods if those verses are not in their scripture.
Every attempt to explain the Trinity goes against the unity of God. A heresy.
الله يطول بعمرك يا هاشم على فعل الخير
baraka ALLAHU fikoum
AmeenYaRabbilA'lameen!
When the heckler came to spoil the conversation, this very nice christian willingly goes away from him with Hashim to continue their converstion
I am 35min into the video,thank u for the headsup.I wont be suprised when the Heckler appears
what an hour load of verbal gymnastics!! these pagan christians are nuts!!
alhamdulillah for islam ❤
جزاكم الله خيرا ،الله يهديه ، للانصاف شاب محترم 🇲🇦المغرب
26:28 that little boy understood and smiled. That was beautiful 😊
This guy speaks good english, but when it comes to understanding written english in their Bible, he's all over the place in order to justify his narative and this is a very common issue with the Christians.
Right? And he was trying to make it seem like Hashim doesn’t know English well. Very insincere Christian
Christians have a different English dictionary than the rest of us
Christianity has made this Christian confused...He seems not to realise what he is saying!!
Great conversation and educational from brother Hashim
Mashallah
”I love john 17, beautiful chapter😁” 😂😂😂 27:41
Watching from India
I hate the annoying voice of that self-proclaimed ex muslim, very irritating
I thought I was the only one traumatised by that annoying voice😂
12:35 you nailed debate over
Muslims point of view is CRYSTAL Clear ☝️
Such people no longer know what a person is. Every person is a being, but every being is not a person.
Three persons cannot be one being except in a psychiatric institution.
😄😄😄😄
Hashim has to explain to this young man that we, the Muslims, do believe that the Holy Spirit doesn't speak on his own. Also, Jesus conveys what God tells Him.
I love Siraj 😂😂..
This Guy is cool give him Quran Kareem May ALLAH swt give him hidayah Salam
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May Allah guide him to the truth
Another one. Alhamdulillah
40:00 It’s okay, we’re used to teaching Christians their Bible 😂😂😂
And I thought Sam Samoan was the middle guy. HAHAHAHA.
Im in father means Father believed in him for serving his purpose. The father is in me means his heart is filled with the thoughts and love for the Father
It is not only a matter of freedom but of knowledge. The Holy Spirit does not know what God knows nor can he say what he has not heard from God.
It's funny how the English man don't understand a simple English sentence all of the sudden.
Plot twist he's actually an English teacher.
I have never heard any christian answer hashim's question at minute 2.35
Have you been invited to the weeding 😂😂😂 Bro Hashim you too much😂
Counting to 3 is a difficult exercise apparently!
39:00 Alhamdulillah. An idea just popped up my head. This never occurred to me before 😂 Before Abraham I am. I am what? So what if Jesus was before Abraham. Abraham came after alot of Prophet's. So what are they saying? And they can't attribute that to God. They better not please! Because we can easily, easily refute that.
الله يهديه للحق
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Poor guy, he's not even willing to say "he is in God and God is in him" like he believes because he doesn't claim to be God, but he asked br Hashim 3 times to say that phrase despite knowing fully well br Hashim never claimed to be God 🙄 The confusion and dishonesty of this guy is unbelievable
Hashim semakin bersinarr sejak kehilangan rambutnya😅
First of all it was very fruitful conversation; Second thing is that I am watching all debates of speakers corner; I saw one thing which I really loved which is; Whenever someone sincere like this young guy comes and who really wants to seek the truth they don’t get hyper and they don’t ruin the debate and also the Muslims like Hashim hijab shaikh Uthman etc who are doing debate they enjoy the convo with a big smile and at the end they Make dua Also; that may ALLAH SWT give him/her/them or all Humans from now on till the day of judgement hidayah along with us on which we all say AMEEN SUM AMEEN; That is love ❤ MAY ALLAH SWT give hidayah to us and all humans who will come to this world till the last hour AMEEN SUM AMEEN
How did Jesus exist from the beginning and at the same time he was begotten? At what stage was he begotten? To be begotten it means you didn’t exist from the beginning, before he was a human was he a spirit? Or was he always human?
In the Beginning?? So God had a beginning.
What did you expect from the oldest still working Scam ?
38:05 in the mother of his mother 😂😂
💯👍
Hashim cooked him, Christian is a good person.
Hes rude for interrupting. Why didnt he 1 to 1 with hasyim?
Why did the Disciples and especially Thomas refuse to accept Jesus had returned from the dead after crucifiction? Had Jesus not taught them that his whole purpose was to be God in the flesh who would be crucified, die and resurrect and thereby take away their sins and the sins of the World? Clearly not! Paul and his Church made all this up.
1:04:42 he realised it this can't be it.. May Allah guide him
Kevin De Bruyne receiving Dawah.
The christian intern from the christian hecklers association is annyoing
@12:12 he would expect the bible to use such explicit language in this instance, yet he and many other christians are completely fine with taking implicit language and extrapolating it to have such great depth. hypocrisy.
There is no mention in the bible that the glory Jesus had with the father is divine. It definitely was a glory befitting him as a prophet. The proof is that later Jesus says he has shared that very glory he received from the Father with the disciples...
Which proves jesus is not a god.
@@peace4045 Definitely
Bro's intellect struggling😵😵 with church's trinitarian lenses😂
the biblical Jesus is maybe the most incompetent person ever. This is God himself yet...his religion is full of the sayings of others and putting words in his mouth.
This is what JESUS said in The Bible "John 10:30
I and my Father are One."
So if you see JESUS (GOD The Son), You have seen The FATHER. As They are ONE .
And This is HIS COMMANDMENT for Us to obey "John 13:34-35
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another."
He urge Us to Follow PEACE after All Man
"Hebrews 12:14
Follow PEACE with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:"
And read This also "Matthew 5:8
Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God."
If AnyOne wants to See God, Enter His House of Heaven, Live Your Life PURE and HOLY as what GOD Commanded You to do.
There's no such impure, filty, sex in HEAVEN, Do not be deceived My Brothers. GOD Bless, HALLELUIA, AMEN 🤗🤗🤗😇😇😇🙏🙏🙏
I like how you glossed over the rest of the verse. Jesus also said in the same verse, “just like the father and I are, you and I are one”. He was speaking to his disciples, so by your logic, the disciples are also God.
@charsikhan9753 gods (small letter) NOT God (Capital Letter).
That's what Bible Teach Us Christian.
This is My last for You I hope,
*Hebrews 12:14*
"Seek peace with all people, and the holiness without which no one can ever see the Lord." HALLELUIA, AMEN 🙏🙏🙏😇😇😇❤️❤️❤️
@@rinaldotapangan3465 I like the little dance you did there to avoid the implication.
Christians like you use John 10:30, specifically the line “I and the father are ONE” to try and prove jesus’s divinity.
If that is true, then from John 17:11
11And I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, keep them in your name, which you have given me, that they may be one, even as we are one.
In jesus’s own words, he and the disciples are one, just as the father and Jesus are one, ergo, your logic would make the discuiples Gods.
@@charsikhan9753
Romans 12:16
Be of the same mind one toward another. Set not your mind on high things, but condescend to things that are lowly. Be not wise in your own conceits.
❤️😇🙏
@@rinaldotapangan3465 keep skirting the issue without actually answering it 😂. Just strengthens the Islamic position.
Boy did not read his bible. So he had to look up John 4:24
11:26 this man is not sincere and just wants to follow his desires. He said from God and then he said he is God. How does that make sense? It’s like calling the messenger of the queen the queen just because he carries her message. SMH
36:20. He's still not getting it. That's why they told him to read the whole passage again. The jews claimed that Jesus said he is God. And then at the end (where he stopped reading) Jesus said (paraphrasing) you guys are called gods and I say I am the son of God, how is that blasphemy. Basically he's telling them which is worse? Being called god or son of God.
it makes more sense that the holly spirit is the angel gabriel ???
Zeeshan ❤
I’m on minute 15. The Christian is being very insincere. He wants to seem intelligent, but it’s not going good.
On minute 50 now. The Christian claiming to know English well, stumbles to answer “who preceded who”. Needing Hashim to elaborate
God emptied himself of his divine attributes yet he remained fully God hhhhhh
Why call the father and son, if they' a One person from begining and how they spread entitys if they' One ?
The absurdity is that the Holy Spirit is supposed to be God but cannot speak on his own; How can God not speak on his own? This is nonsense! The more he tries to defend the nonsense, the more absurd examples he comes up with. Its painful to watch. Ouch!
Mathew 28:16-20....Jesus was speaking to Mathew himself who wrote this gospel is the christian claim.
Jesus tells him and the 10 others to go and preach to the whole world. Yet, Christians never asked themselves why the apostles had no clue Jesus gave them the green light to preach to all people. Was Jesus such a terrible teacher or were the apostles such terrible students?
Read acts 10 and 11. What convinces the apostles to follow Peter and start preaching to gentiles?
Christians don't think. They believe wholeheartedly first ann that is why it's so easy to just quote a verse and take it out of its context. It needs to fit the beliefs first. Usually, we read and then follow.
trinity is such a mess that even god was scared to explain it in all his wisdom LOL
Befroe we jump to 17:3, we should ask Christians what was jesus' intention in john 16 when he said he wont speak in parables? Ask them if Jesus was competent and intelligent enough as a human to express himself correctly or do they think he needed to be guided like a child? eg how we tell them it's borrow , not lend.
why is this important? we see what his followers understood he was right after he explains to them in a clear and concise manner who he is. was he god in flesh or a man sent by god that's a huge difference. if god in all his wisdom speaks clearly and without ambiguity ... and his followers say something that fits muslim beleifs ...then if you're an honest person...ypu'd as yourselves questions. he then goes on to say only the father is the only true god.
christians don't think. that's what i have seen. look at how often they will quote emanuel prophecy in isaiah 7 or 9. Ask them what happened in Luke when Jesus went missing? were the actions of mary ( panic , worried and scolding jesus ), teh actions of someone who really thought she had given birth to God?
how can't this guy don't use his brain, but he study philosophy
Tom is ok.. he's very Christian, I mena the way he thinks.. but he's better than many of his fellow..
The baptism formula is not the equivalent of the Bible saying that God is the Father the son and the holy Spirit Ya BS ter.
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Stubborn guy hahahaha
So why left holly spirits in this conversation.. it's a God also right😂
The confusion that Christians have with regard to their views of God is simply mind boggling. I don't know how they try to rationalize the Trinity. They say Jesus is not the Father, that the Father is not the Holy Spirit and that thr Holy Spirit is not Jesus but they say they are of One God. In the beginning, I thought the Father that Jesus referred to often is God but then according to this man and Christians, the Father is not God but just his essence or nature. So why was Jesus not praying to God then? Why did he pray to a Father who, by all rationalisation is the one who "impregnated" miraculously Mary with Jesus. Why would God need the Father nature or essence to impregnate a human being when all He had to do is Command? When Jesus was crucified, he called to his "Father" why he forsook him. He never prayed to God it seems but just that so called paternal like nature of God the Christians concoted to rationalise Jesus' birth. If the Holy Spirit is indeed the one who was responsible for the miraculous creation of Jesus and the pregnancy of Mary, what need is there of the Father? Why would the Father outsource his paternal duties to yet another divine nature to impregnate Mary? So did the Father or Holy Spirit impregnate Mary and if both, then surely that would be ludicrous. If God simply commanded the miraculous pregnancy and birth of Jesus, that would have been an easier explanation and one which Muslims believe in. But to create the Trinity, a complex web of confusion is spun where the Father is Jesus' father as in one who have divine entanglement with Mary but that which the Father could not achieve on his own but required the services of the Holy Spirit to actualise the pregnancy of Mary and then there is Jesus who is the son but then became a God but is never explicitly claimed to be a God but that he is "One with his Father" which raises the question, what about the Holy Spirit? His role got removed after the miraculous pregnancy of Mary and hardly ever got mentioned much except that Jesus supposedly warned not to criticize or mock the Holy Spirit warning of damnation but that he could be criticised. There in is a strange tale of a despotic nature of Jesus where he allows criticism of himself but not the Holy Spirit. He prayed to the Father but never the Holy Spirit but doesn't like the criticism of the HS. Is it because it casts doubts on his legitimacy and of his birth for it was through the medium of the Holy Spirit through the Father in a complicated two in one efforts, that led to Mary carrying Jesus. But back to yh the Trinity where the Holy Spirit is not the Father and the Father is not Jesus and Jesus is not the Holy Spirit but somehow they are all considered three distinct divine planes of existence each existing seperately but all are One God seems stretching logic and rationality a bit too far. In fact, too far.
Yet another contradiction and conflicting statements in the Bible.
"And God said to Moses He is Yehweh. I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob as El-Shaddai-‘God Almighty’-but I did not reveal my name, Yahweh, to them".
- Exodus 6:2 & 3
But Abraham who lived some 400 yrs before Moses named a mountain as Yehweh-Yireh .
"Abraham named the place Yahweh-Yireh (which means “the LORD will provide”). To this day, people still use that name as a proverb: “On the mountain of the LORD it will be provided.”.
- Genesis 22:14
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If God revealed His name (Yehweh) to Moses for the first time, how Abraham who lived long ago knew that name 'Yehweh'?
Christians tend to punctuate sentences with a full stop when it is convenient for them.
. Video 36:10 the Christian claims that in John 10:30 Jesus ended his words with "I and my father are One"
Wrong!!! the verse continues, Jesus explains to them the miss understanding:
30 I and the Father are one.”
31 Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him,
32 but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”
33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”
34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”’[?
35 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came-and Scripture cannot be set aside- 36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?
christian gymnastics
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The christians, men and women, are the bride and Jesus is the bridegroom hhh
if he watches this video , then he will definitely know how dumb he sounds when he was talking about three divine beings but one god
if you just follow what your bible tells you, and put aside whatever your opinions are, you'd find out that Jesus is a human being, which miracles given by God to him as proof that he is the truth, tells you to worship God, not Jesus himself. put aside your opinions and list out the facts.
and know that modern bibles are simply unauthenticated translation of the lost real Gospel of Jesus in Aramaic language.
Hmm. I wonder whom this previous prophet point to when they spoke about this? Jesus use the old testament too point himself when he spoke too the Jews. Child is born, Son is given, HE WILL BE CALLED MIGHTY GOD.😊
Hosea 6:1-2
“Come, let us return to the Lord.
He has torn us to pieces
but he will heal us;
he has injured us
but he will bind up our wounds.
2 After two days he will revive us;
on the third day he will restore us,
that we may live in his presence.
Isaiah 9:6
For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Daniel 7:13-14
13 “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man,[a] coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all nations and peoples of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.