5 months In with this machine best coffee I ever made in my life. I had another inexpensive espresso machine previously. I learned the tricks using that now I am a pro with my barista pro, I absolutely love this machine.. I don't trust other baristas in shop coz I make better coffees than most of them with fine latte art. My beans are local shop imported dark roast Nicaraguan and another lighter blend Columbian. Secret for good extraction for me is grind size 7 with 14.5 seconds grind time. Depending on some beans I use pre infusion works best on my Nicaraguan. And I go manual for 22 second extraction on the Columbian.
@@gosman949 interesting :) never thought of that. what machine would you recommend that comes with a larger portafilter? In the domestic range i saw few videos on one the Gaggia manual espresso machines models can't remember exact model
@@gosman949 the portafilter still has a similar volume, it's just deeper. La Spaziale also uses a 53mm basket. While 58mm is the most common there are many machines that use different sizes, it's not set in stone. What matters most I think is the end result in the cup
I've had this machine for a few weeks now and it's a very good machine. After I dialled in the beans and adjusted the grinder times it pours perfect every time. I passed on the silvia due to the warm up time being 30+ minutes which was a deal breaker for me. were the pro warms up in minute's which comes in real handy in the morning.
Ive been watch all sorts of Expresso Coffee Machine Chanels one good advice is to run the Hot water through the portafilter to warm it first then dry it before the actial brewing. It also offers many ways to tweak it to our desire for the Best Expresso Coffee possible!
Thanks for that, very enjoyable easy to watch the video. We have only ever owned Nespresso pod top end machines but after two years they seem to play up our last machine was $900 and the same issues, so we are thinking about going down the Breville Barista path
Just ordered this and it should be here tomorrow👏🏻 I’ve had the Barista express for years and loved it. I’m really excited for the new steam wand feature.
I don’t understand the interest of this machine as you have to heat the portafilter. Is this an improve from the Express ? For me it’s a constraint. The damper blue is handsome !
Glad you do a review on this, but really wish it has automatic frothing like oracle or barista touch, but love it actually do volume base than time base as barista touch. Might want to see you compare those two Barista Pro vs barista Touch vs Express
@@Christofinity I have not heard anything as of yet. I doubt it will be this year. I was at a Breville event recently and for this fall they are introducing some new colours and the Barista Pro just came out. I didn't see anything else. At least not here in Canada. New products always launch on Breville's home country Australia so I would keep an eye on what's happening there
That gauge on the express is more of a "roundabout" measurement. Not anymore or less accurate than the volume/time measurement this machine gives you. Let's be honest, if you are making coffee in these priced machines, you should know whether or not you are choking out the machine or if the shot is running too fast. A double shot should take 32-37 seconds from all the baristas i've seen use this machine.
Just ordered my Pro! excellent video and explanation on how to make different drinks. Some questions: 1. is it needed to warm the portafilter before use? 2. Is it better to wait until steam goes out before frothing the milk?
Hi, congrats on your purchase. Yes to both, it's better to have a warm portafilter, the espresso will taste better and it's also good to purge any initial water that may come out before steaming
the machine may be ready in 3 seconds, but the brew head and portafilter will still be cold, I have a sage barrista Express, it is a great machine and start up time is pretty quick, but the the brew head is still cold, the pro will be no different. To be honest, i prefer the look of the barista express,
That's true, you do need your portatilter and group to be hot but if you are in a hurry you can just run hot water through it to heat it up. You can go from cold to making coffee very quickly with this machine
There are some nice design changes with this, but that chrome backsplash just looks bad. Total finish look, I prefer the Barista Express as well. To warm up group head and portafilter, I run hot water through it a couple times.
Intuitive review! Have my eye on the Pro. Out of stock locally and recommended the Touch with a super discount. On a dilemma. Having had the experience with both which one would you recommend?
Go with the pro. Its a newer machine then the touch. Pro has the new 3s thermo Jet heating system. The touch does not allow you to control temperature which is a big downside for me. You will get more control on the pro.
gavin Anthony damn ! i just bought the touch, it's been shipped yesterday, havent received it yet... i hesitated a lot between those two. And you know what, i read today that the touch suffers from low brewing temp, around 160 degree or so, dammit ! bought it pretty much because of the automatic froth and my girlfriend wanted those presets. It seems they still need some tweaking though. i thinl im gonna return it as soon as it arrives and get the Pro.
The Barista touch had the automatic milk frothing/texturing. This is a nice feature for people who like automation and milk drinks because it does a good job of it. The Pro has great speed and a more hands on milk frothing experience.
@@jessybwoy8677 Have you received the machine yet? The touch may be easier to use because of the automation of milk frothing but I still think the pro is a better choice. If the price is much cheaper with what you got then you may want to just keep it.. I own the pro and its not hard to use. You will need to practice using the milk frothing but you get the hang of it quickly. It does heat the milk quite fast so practice using the washing liquid and water method to create micro foam and then move onto milk. Many you tube vids. Hope you get your machine soon..
I got this machine yesterday.. I had to practice heaps of shots till I got it correct for my beans... I noticed you are using grind size at 30 what beans are you using? For my grind size at 7 with 13 second grind time produced a great double shot
We roast coffee in house so we use that in our videos. I do not recall the exact coffee I used in this video but it is usually Daterra Espresso Yellow or Sweet Collection.
Hi, thanks for the review! I’m thinking of switching from my nespresso machine to this one. I just wonder, how many grams of coffee approximatively do you use for an espresso ? Thanks
Great upgrade! That’s actually how I was, I was a Nespresso user and moved to this. This grinder uses time, and its 9.5- single, 13- double. Not sure about weight.
Can you please explain if we did volume based extraction and not time based, at what volume would you say the coffee will still have the right quantity with crema please?
It depends on how advanced you want to get. A common ratio for a double espresso is 2 to 1. So if your coffee weight is 18 grams you would extract 36 grams of coffee. The volume this coffee takes up will be greater because of the crema. 2 to 1 is a good place to start, but it can be changed based on preference.
The drinks you made looked luke warm no steam coming from the cups and the Americano looked like it took an age to make you even stopped it half way through its cycle.
The in cup temperature of an espresso is about 80 degrees which is not going to steam. It's hard to judge temperature by site. I would estimate that the water for an Americano will take about 30 to 40 seconds to dispense for a 10oz cup. We do cut some of shots for brevity
Hi Slawek, I have enjoyed watching some of your videos on coffee. I bought Breville Barista Pro BES878 and want to know how to change the settings to factory defaults. I have not seen any video on this and the user manual is not very clear. Can you do a video or point me to any video with this information? Have a good day.
@iDrinkCoffeeCanada - Were you using a custom brew time, or is the longer extraction simply due to your grind/tamp? I'm not having much success with my pro so far.
2k5b6quattro He had his grind too small and too full therefor not allowing water to pass through easily. Double espressos should pull in 20 seconds total time
Hi, the extraction time is directly related to the fineness of the grind. The tamp has some effect on extraction time but less than the grind. If you want to slow down your extraction grind your coffee finer, you should aim for about 22-30 seconds depending on preference.
Well, it's a little different. First with the dual boiler you don't have the grinder. Second you have boilers and not thermoblocks, this allows you to steam and draw espresso at the same time on the Barista Pro you have to do each step separately. The dual boiler also has a 58mm portafilter vs 53 on the Barista
Hi, the bambino plus has automatic frothing on the barista pro the process is manual so it is up to the operator to froth the milk to their preference. You can get more or less froth depending on how much air you let in.
This model has a new type of thermoblock that heats up very quickly. It is ready to make coffee within a few seconds and also it is ready to steam in a few seconds. Also the grinder has been upgraded and now has stepless grind adjustment.
iDrinkCoffeeCanada thank you for responding. Do you know if you can use filtered coffee instead of beans? I understand it defeats the purpose but I’m just curious? Say to replace a filtered coffee machine but also have the option to use beans. Thanks again
If it does not have a pressure gauge it is a waste of money! I have the Pro Grinder and the older Barista Express, but without a pressure gauge I would go to The Infuser or an other Company's Espresso machine. Breville has enough internal build quality issues.@@iDrinkCoffeeCanada
30 is in fact the coarsest setting on the machine. But this can be adjusted, I found that on my machine which was brand new I had to go all the way to 30 to get a good extraction. I subsequently adjusted the grinder to give myself more room for adjustment.
yes, although for frothing different amounts of milk I do suggest changing the pitcher. It's harder to froth a smaller amount of milk in a large pitcher.
Great now I I have to buy a better machine lol was wanting the original but that costs as much as what John Lewis is selling it for and the pro model is slightly like nearly £600 but it costs £1000 elsewhere
Half of what he says is a lie. It’s not a stepless grinder. It’s not true volumetric. Depending on your grind, dose and tamp pressure you get a wind range of yields. For a 19g dose you can get from 35 to 58g of espresso. How does it decide how much water to put through when it doesn’t know the weight of the dose your using. Also it doesn’t warm up in three seconds. It produced hot water in three seconds like any other cheap on demand water heater. In three seconds your group head, portafilter and basket are at room temperature. If it produces 9 bar why did they remove the pressure gauge so you can see it working.REMEMBER THIS IS NOT A REVIEW THIS IS AN ADD.
@@iDrinkCoffeeCanada Okay, thanks for the reply. I would wonder if there are any disadvantages, which are rarely mentioned, like that the new heating has a lower max temp?
I really dislike these videos as appearances are deceiving. How does it taste not just look, my machine made several that looked great some even in expected timing but the results were bad sour, bitter, etc
Half of what he says is a lie. It’s not a stepless grinder. It’s not true volumetric. Depending on your grind, dose and tamp pressure you get a wind range of yields. For a 19g dose you can get from 35 to 58g of espresso. How does it decide how much water to put through when it doesn’t know the weight of the dose your using. Also it doesn’t warm up in three seconds. It produced hot water in three seconds like any other cheap on demand water heater. In three seconds your group head, portafilter and basket are at room temperature. If it produces 9 bar why did they remove the pressure gauge so you can see it working.REMEMBER THIS IS NOT A REVIEW THIS IS AN ADD.
5 months In with this machine best coffee I ever made in my life. I had another inexpensive espresso machine previously. I learned the tricks using that now I am a pro with my barista pro, I absolutely love this machine.. I don't trust other baristas in shop coz I make better coffees than most of them with fine latte art. My beans are local shop imported dark roast Nicaraguan and another lighter blend Columbian. Secret for good extraction for me is grind size 7 with 14.5 seconds grind time. Depending on some beans I use pre infusion works best on my Nicaraguan. And I go manual for 22 second extraction on the Columbian.
That's awesome feedback, I'm glad you are enjoying your machine so much. ☕
you don't mind the smaller portafilter?
@@gosman949 interesting :) never thought of that. what machine would you recommend that comes with a larger portafilter? In the domestic range i saw few videos on one the Gaggia manual espresso machines models can't remember exact model
@@gosman949 the portafilter still has a similar volume, it's just deeper. La Spaziale also uses a 53mm basket. While 58mm is the most common there are many machines that use different sizes, it's not set in stone. What matters most I think is the end result in the cup
I've had this machine for a few weeks now and it's a very good machine. After I dialled in the beans and adjusted the grinder times it pours perfect every time. I passed on the silvia due to the warm up time being 30+ minutes which was a deal breaker for me. were the pro warms up in minute's which comes in real handy in the morning.
I totally agree on that!
Waiting for longer then 5 minutes for a machine to heat up in the morning is a total no go for me as well :-)
InstaBlaster...
Just bought it . Enjoy it every time I use it, from the beginning till I drink it ☕️ cheers
How is it holding up after 7 months?
@@Aaron-hype very good. I have it almost a year .
Ive been watch all sorts of Expresso Coffee Machine Chanels one good advice is to run the Hot water through the portafilter to warm it first then dry it before the actial brewing. It also offers many ways to tweak it to our desire for the Best Expresso Coffee possible!
Thanks for that, very enjoyable easy to watch the video. We have only ever owned Nespresso pod top end machines but after two years they seem to play up our last machine was $900 and the same issues, so we are thinking about going down the Breville Barista path
Just ordered this and it should be here tomorrow👏🏻 I’ve had the Barista express for years and loved it. I’m really excited for the new steam wand feature.
I don’t understand the interest of this machine as you have to heat the portafilter. Is this an improve from the Express ? For me it’s a constraint. The damper blue is handsome !
wow those shots look amazing.
Glad you do a review on this, but really wish it has automatic frothing like oracle or barista touch, but love it actually do volume base than time base as barista touch. Might want to see you compare those two Barista Pro vs barista Touch vs Express
I will do a comparison video of all three machines in the barista series soon. I've added it to my list.
Have this machine, and I love it to death!
you don't mind the smaller portafilter? You get a nice strong extraction?
Jay G. No, I don’t at all. I can still get 18 grams in very easily. Not hard.
Could you please do a video tutorial on how to flush and descale the Barista Pro please? Thanks and have a great day :)
Hi,
once the lockdown ends and we can start shooting again I will add this to the list. Thank you for the suggestion.
I wonder if they will release a infuser pro since I have a nice grinder already
I haven't heard anything as of yet but it makes sense, the infuser is due for an upgrade too.
Is there going to be a successor to the Dual Boiler BES920 coming in the near future? As it's like 6 year old model now.
@@Christofinity I have not heard anything as of yet. I doubt it will be this year. I was at a Breville event recently and for this fall they are introducing some new colours and the Barista Pro just came out. I didn't see anything else. At least not here in Canada. New products always launch on Breville's home country Australia so I would keep an eye on what's happening there
At barista express, the analog pressure dial is very helpful for biginners to adjust the machine. How can you do the same with Barista Pro?
That gauge on the express is more of a "roundabout" measurement. Not anymore or less accurate than the volume/time measurement this machine gives you. Let's be honest, if you are making coffee in these priced machines, you should know whether or not you are choking out the machine or if the shot is running too fast. A double shot should take 32-37 seconds from all the baristas i've seen use this machine.
Just ordered my Pro! excellent video and explanation on how to make different drinks. Some questions: 1. is it needed to warm the portafilter before use? 2. Is it better to wait until steam goes out before frothing the milk?
Hi, congrats on your purchase. Yes to both, it's better to have a warm portafilter, the espresso will taste better and it's also good to purge any initial water that may come out before steaming
Would love to see a time test to bring 4/6/8oz of milk up to temp. That and the grinder were my biggest gripes with the BBE.
the machine may be ready in 3 seconds, but the brew head and portafilter will still be cold, I have a sage barrista Express, it is a great machine and start up time is pretty quick, but the the brew head is still cold, the pro will be no different.
To be honest, i prefer the look of the barista express,
That's true, you do need your portatilter and group to be hot but if you are in a hurry you can just run hot water through it to heat it up. You can go from cold to making coffee very quickly with this machine
There are some nice design changes with this, but that chrome backsplash just looks bad. Total finish look, I prefer the Barista Express as well. To warm up group head and portafilter, I run hot water through it a couple times.
@@Pickupmanila u be able to polish crime lol
Intuitive review! Have my eye on the Pro. Out of stock locally and recommended the Touch with a super discount. On a dilemma. Having had the experience with both which one would you recommend?
Go with the pro. Its a newer machine then the touch. Pro has the new 3s thermo Jet heating system. The touch does not allow you to control temperature which is a big downside for me. You will get more control on the pro.
gavin Anthony
damn ! i just bought the touch, it's been shipped yesterday, havent received it yet...
i hesitated a lot between those two. And you know what, i read today that the touch suffers from low brewing temp, around 160 degree or so, dammit !
bought it pretty much because of the automatic froth and my girlfriend wanted those presets. It seems they still need some tweaking though.
i thinl im gonna return it as soon as it arrives and get the Pro.
The Barista touch had the automatic milk frothing/texturing. This is a nice feature for people who like automation and milk drinks because it does a good job of it. The Pro has great speed and a more hands on milk frothing experience.
@@jessybwoy8677 Have you received the machine yet? The touch may be easier to use because of the automation of milk frothing but I still think the pro is a better choice. If the price is much cheaper with what you got then you may want to just keep it.. I own the pro and its not hard to use. You will need to practice using the milk frothing but you get the hang of it quickly. It does heat the milk quite fast so practice using the washing liquid and water method to create micro foam and then move onto milk. Many you tube vids. Hope you get your machine soon..
can i ask about how many frequency 50 or 60 or both .. thanks
“And you can see we are getting a nice extraction” he says as we watch droplets fall for a shot time of 37 seconds...
You do realize there is a pre-infusion phase that lasts 7-8 seconds right?
Nate pre infusion counts as shot time dude
The pre infusion is counted on the total time. The shot was over extracted
@@anapple998 it absolutely does not count as shot time
firts shot was not so good but the second one was better
Would you choose this one over a Lelit Grace or Ascaso Dream PID with a separate grinder? great review!
Michał Andrzejewski i m wondering the same thing about the Ascaso🤔
Why the removed the pressure gauge i don't understand !
I got this machine yesterday.. I had to practice heaps of shots till I got it correct for my beans... I noticed you are using grind size at 30 what beans are you using? For my grind size at 7 with 13 second grind time produced a great double shot
We roast coffee in house so we use that in our videos. I do not recall the exact coffee I used in this video but it is usually Daterra Espresso Yellow or Sweet Collection.
@@iDrinkCoffeeCanada great thanks.
13 second grind time just can get 14g coffee,usually for double,should be 18-20g right?
Hi, thanks for the review! I’m thinking of switching from my nespresso machine to this one. I just wonder, how many grams of coffee approximatively do you use for an espresso ? Thanks
Great upgrade! That’s actually how I was, I was a Nespresso user and moved to this. This grinder uses time, and its 9.5- single, 13- double. Not sure about weight.
Hello, the machine is multivoltaje?
Hi, no it is not. You have to purchase it in the appropriate voltage for your region.
Can you please explain if we did volume based extraction and not time based, at what volume would you say the coffee will still have the right quantity with crema please?
It depends on how advanced you want to get. A common ratio for a double espresso is 2 to 1. So if your coffee weight is 18 grams you would extract 36 grams of coffee. The volume this coffee takes up will be greater because of the crema. 2 to 1 is a good place to start, but it can be changed based on preference.
The drinks you made looked luke warm no steam coming from the cups and the Americano looked like it took an age to make you even stopped it half way through its cycle.
The in cup temperature of an espresso is about 80 degrees which is not going to steam. It's hard to judge temperature by site. I would estimate that the water for an Americano will take about 30 to 40 seconds to dispense for a 10oz cup. We do cut some of shots for brevity
Hi Slawek,
I have enjoyed watching some of your videos on coffee. I bought Breville Barista Pro BES878 and want to know how to change the settings to factory defaults. I have not seen any video on this and the user manual is not very clear. Can you do a video or point me to any video with this information? Have a good day.
@iDrinkCoffeeCanada - Were you using a custom brew time, or is the longer extraction simply due to your grind/tamp? I'm not having much success with my pro so far.
2k5b6quattro He had his grind too small and too full therefor not allowing water to pass through easily. Double espressos should pull in 20 seconds total time
Hi, the extraction time is directly related to the fineness of the grind. The tamp has some effect on extraction time but less than the grind. If you want to slow down your extraction grind your coffee finer, you should aim for about 22-30 seconds depending on preference.
How bar is it machine?
My yields very little crema??
Steam and brewing 5 second stop,what the solution?
It's hard to guess, you probably have to get it serviced.
Is this machine good for a small restaurant?
No, this is a domestic product and should not be used in a commercial setting
How does the machine compare to the dual boiler?
Well, it's a little different. First with the dual boiler you don't have the grinder. Second you have boilers and not thermoblocks, this allows you to steam and draw espresso at the same time on the Barista Pro you have to do each step separately. The dual boiler also has a 58mm portafilter vs 53 on the Barista
The milk doesn't seem as thick as the Bambino Pro makes...
Hi, the bambino plus has automatic frothing on the barista pro the process is manual so it is up to the operator to froth the milk to their preference. You can get more or less froth depending on how much air you let in.
i like the water spout posititon better on the express
I've had both this works better in the long run.
What is the main difference between this model and the BES870XL
This model has a new type of thermoblock that heats up very quickly. It is ready to make coffee within a few seconds and also it is ready to steam in a few seconds. Also the grinder has been upgraded and now has stepless grind adjustment.
iDrinkCoffeeCanada thank you for responding. Do you know if you can use filtered coffee instead of beans? I understand it defeats the purpose but I’m just curious? Say to replace a filtered coffee machine but also have the option to use beans. Thanks again
Hello,
What is the difference between this and the touch? Is this based on an updated platform minus the touch screen and auto-foam?
This is an updated platform. I actually just shot a video showing all three machines in the barista lineup. It should be up tomorrow.
When you stamped down the coffee. What is this mat your using? Thanks
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Price?
The retail price of the BES879 is $1099 in Canada.
is there a pressure gauge in this like the barista express?
No, this version no longer has the pressure gauge
If it does not have a pressure gauge it is a waste of money! I have the Pro Grinder and the older Barista Express, but without a pressure gauge I would go to The Infuser or an other Company's Espresso machine. Breville has enough internal build quality issues.@@iDrinkCoffeeCanada
Your first drink you made it looked like your grind setting was at 30? Wouldn't that be too fine?
But his later shot looks much better and still at 30 setting on grind, so maybe he tamper the first one too hard.
@@AlexanderLong I tried at 30 but it didn't seem to flow as well. Will keep playing with it
30 is the coarsest setting. Smaller numbers = finer grind.
30 is in fact the coarsest setting on the machine. But this can be adjusted, I found that on my machine which was brand new I had to go all the way to 30 to get a good extraction. I subsequently adjusted the grinder to give myself more room for adjustment.
@@AlexanderLong I also slightly reduced the dose.
How much price in Dubai?
You would have to contact a local dealer, we are in Canada, I'm not familiar with pricing in other markets
Just bought mine last night from icoffee in Deira Citycenter. The Regular price is 3900AED and theiir giving 5% off. The staff are very accomodating..
Can you steam 12oz?
yes, although for frothing different amounts of milk I do suggest changing the pitcher. It's harder to froth a smaller amount of milk in a large pitcher.
@@iDrinkCoffeeCanada I ended up buying the Breville Barista Pro and a 20oz frothing pitcher. It's the BEST!
Is the upgrades worth the extra money over the barista express
That's for the individual to decide. I do like the super fast heat up and improved grinder.
Great now I I have to buy a better machine lol was wanting the original but that costs as much as what John Lewis is selling it for and the pro model is slightly like nearly £600 but it costs £1000 elsewhere
Half of what he says is a lie. It’s not a stepless grinder. It’s not true volumetric. Depending on your grind, dose and tamp pressure you get a wind range of yields. For a 19g dose you can get from 35 to 58g of espresso. How does it decide how much water to put through when it doesn’t know the weight of the dose your using. Also it doesn’t warm up in three seconds. It produced hot water in three seconds like any other cheap on demand water heater. In three seconds your group head, portafilter and basket are at room temperature. If it produces 9 bar why did they remove the pressure gauge so you can see it working.REMEMBER THIS IS NOT A REVIEW THIS IS AN ADD.
In Germany 80% of the videos are paid reviews, in english-speaking TH-cam it seems 100%
I'm not compensated by the manufacturer in any way for the videos I produce
@@iDrinkCoffeeCanada Okay, thanks for the reply. I would wonder if there are any disadvantages, which are rarely mentioned, like that the new heating has a lower max temp?
@@nixxblikka I would Like to know that. I like the americano coffee really hot
I really dislike these videos as appearances are deceiving. How does it taste not just look, my machine made several that looked great some even in expected timing but the results were bad sour, bitter, etc
Price range?
The price is $1099 CAD in Canada
You can catch promotional price for 869.97 which was on sale a month ago and I got it for that price!
is this good for a small cafe?
Hi, no this machine is not suitable for or rated for commercial use. It is a domestic product
Half of what he says is a lie. It’s not a stepless grinder. It’s not true volumetric. Depending on your grind, dose and tamp pressure you get a wind range of yields. For a 19g dose you can get from 35 to 58g of espresso. How does it decide how much water to put through when it doesn’t know the weight of the dose your using. Also it doesn’t warm up in three seconds. It produced hot water in three seconds like any other cheap on demand water heater. In three seconds your group head, portafilter and basket are at room temperature. If it produces 9 bar why did they remove the pressure gauge so you can see it working.REMEMBER THIS IS NOT A REVIEW THIS IS AN ADD.