Thats NOT a "Leaky" propane tank putting everyone in DANGER.... The SAFETY valve was working properly. It's DESIGNED to "Cook off" and it did that very well.When the tank gets close to its rated pressure the valve lets the fuel out at a controlled rate and it burns off usually without exploding. THIS IS NORMAL!
As a firefighter myself I was some what perplexed by it taking them 3 minutes to get any water pumped. They did seem to take along time getting gear on and getting scba on. Once on scene it should not have taken that long to get water on the fire.
For those complaining about fire department/brigade response time, remember that that is on I-90 on the east approach to Snoqualmie Pass in Washington state, about an hour east of Seattle - a very remote place. No fire hydrants (all water must be trucked in or drawn from a nearby body of water), long distances from emergency services stations, etc. For where that is, that response time is excellent. And with the propane tanks on board, the safest course for all concerned at that point is literally to let the motorhome burn out and worry about the wildfire.
+Grey Jay Three minutes from final positioning until water flowed to two firefighters properly dressed for the job. For a vehicle fire with no structures threatened. Not bad. I'll take all the time it takes for my crew and I to suit up properly, internet experts be damned.
+n1dp surely the crew should be suited up before arriving having all that time to actually get to the scene. Totally unacceptable for crew to be suiting up when arrived at a scene
+mgk920 Their set up time at the scene was unacceptable. I run a fire division so I know what I'm talking about here. Take that long on one of my scenes to get set up and you'll look for work elsewhere.
I can tell you at our FD the firefighters the always put their gear and SCBA on right after leaving the station, and arriving on scene it doesn't take 30 seconds to have the 1st attack line out and wet on red
death85E nailed it! All you arm chair experts I suggest since you're such experts on fire suppression go join a Volunteer department or go try out for a career spot. Also how many of you know where this is? The closest response would be from Cle Elem 30 mins away NOT running code. If it was a Volunteer rig that means they had to get to the house then respond. So getting bunker gear on at the scene actually saves time and same for a career rig ( for this scenario). Also getting water on the fire was the priority as it was solely a offensive situation meaning it was a total loss already ( which most vehicle fires are) and there was no rescue needed. They did a fantastic job at controlling a GRASS fire not a " wild land fire" as the person reffered to. The tree line more than likely would've caught even if they teleported themselves there. That area is known for fires, a squirrel can rub his nuts wrong and it will ignite during summer months. As for the propane tanks...they weren't " blowing up" they were doing exactly what they are designed to do. They have release valves to prevent them from blowing. I say kudos to the FD but go ahead and give the pros your Twinkie Doritos mouth stuffed arm chair advice. But what do I know
Just keep in mind that this may have happened in a State/District where FFs are prohibited to gear up while driving (because they would be un-seatbelted for a period of time). I have no clue where this took place, just thought that may be why they didn't arrive already completely geared.
I agree,I worked for Paradise Fire Dept as a Volunteer back in the early 80's, and if my memory is correct, we had 43 second's from the first Tone Out, to jump into our Turnouts!! and climb on the tailboard d of the Engine...or you walked..I remember getting called out on a structure fire one night,and My pick-up was down..so I geared up with full turnouts and road my Honda 250 to the call. You all Be safe, Also,Thank you Dad,R.I.P. Martin "Ray" Howell Paradise Fire Battalion Chief 3. wemissu
You'll are to dramatic, FD sucked cause they should have been dressed and packed up before getting on the scene. The propane tank is venting like it should when it gets to hot. Explosin was probably the tires.... WOW is all I can say for that FD
As a professional career fire fighter for 28 + years I cannot believe what I am watching. We have every right to criticize the incident commander or lack of on this incident.I would have solved this problem by terminating every fire fighter on this scene. What a joke !!!.
the firefighters need very long until they start extinguishing the fire.... in germany we won´t need so much time, when we arrive at scene we are completely suited up with our bunker gear, scba, infrared camera etc, we only have to take the nozzle and then we can start working............ good video and sorry for my worse english....
@johnnykATL Thats why you put the gear on before you get on the truck, we have to be buckled at all times where im at, but you can still put the scba straps on, hang the mask, buckle the straps so all you have to do is pull the cord hop out and tighten the straps and your ready to rock.
@bwalte03 I completely agree with you, I just mentioned that in response to the people commenting as to why they didn't gear up enroute. Also, that's assuming that they responded from quarters in which case there's no excuse for arriving without gear on, I was just thinking that maybe they were already on the road when they got dispatched (like returning to quarters from a medical call). Anyways, stay safe out there brotha!!
modern day Propane tanks are so safe that a controlled venting such as this is really about the worse that can go wrong. It does not "explode" as you see in the movies, short of hitting it with an AP round. The vent is a spring loaded port that only opens when a certain pressure is reached. Hence the intermittent release. Good job on the FF to take a defense strategy in a windy day like this.
I hate it when people say wheres the fire dept, because Scottie aboard the Enterprise didn't beam them to the fire they decided to drive the old fashion . The nerve of those firefighters.
Be nice, these men deserve some serious credit for this fire. This is not their first due area, the response time is long no matter what, not to mention the issues with calling 911 from a cell phone. Good job brothers.
We're a small department, but when we step off the engine at a fire scene, we're ready to go. It was at least 3 and half minutes of on scene time before they could get water flowing.
Sometimes when there is a fire on an interstate it takes longer to get to. Just saying. Lived with a fireman for 7 yrs and it happens, it depends on where fire is and where fire station is
I agree, in our department everyone would have geared up and packed up in route and water would be in the fire within 40 seconds of arriving on scene and under no circumstances would a command engine roll before an engine. That's poor coordinating right there.
We have a policy in place that says, you must be fully clothed PPE wise prior to getting on the truck. Seatbelts must be in place period. You have to put on everything else while belted in. It seriously sux, however with practice it works. I am a big guy 6'4" and I emplore every FF to do this not only for your safety, but so you dont have to answer to anyone why you where not belted in when you get into a wreck. P.S. your SCBA mask and belt straps can wait till you get on scene. That is all.
Great Video, but next time first make sure that your camera is in focus, and then try to keep it as steady as possible. A steady camera always makes for a better video! Otherwise another example of how slow a fire crew can be in getting water on a major fire.
Sorry if I'm in the wrong but it takes them 4 minutes to get water on the fire after turning up and they aren't even already wearing their gear. Seems quite slow in my opinion.
@me4u they were dispatch during there down time down time is when they go and get lunch or something and they were on their way back to the station so they could get geared while on route so they gear up on scene
A gang of untrained Girl Guides with a couple of buckets would have done a better job of tackling the fire. I am so very glad I don't live in America and have to rely on those rank amateurs to protect my family and property from fire.
This is exactly why I believe all pumpers should have water cannons top mounted which can be operational in seconds upon arrival while the crew spends 10-minutes getting into gear and pulling lines. Water should've been on that fire in less than a minute but clearly with this dept, that didn't happen. They show up to an active fire scene with street clothes on.
Everyone, chill. This was uploaded purely as an entertainment video (or uploaded by the owner of the RV), and we have no right as emergency services PROFESSIONALS to critique the response of the Fire Department in this video. Every department has different procedures, and we can't interject ourselves into this call. So, once again, I call on the armchair Incident Commanders to exercise some command judgement, and work on problems you CAN solve. That is all.
What the hell good is this and many other F/Depts it takes them for ever to get there then thy stand around picking their butts until the hill side catches fire. I see this all the time. I think at heart they are pyromaniacs that just love to see shit burn. Until the fore gets out of control they are not interested in putting it out. Like cops they need drama I guess.
johnnyohness I am a firefighter ( private) and I also get amazed for the time I see in most of the videos in US they take too long to get water or foam in the fire By the time they took here to put water I would have the fire knocked down already. Firefighters could be from a volunteer FD but they should act professionally not like amateurs.
I think there are two reasons the USFD take an age to get water going. 1, their pumps are to complicated.I watched a pump training vid...they had to engage this, and put that into gear, wait for some gauge to balance then prime Some thing else..2. their hose lines are to long, they pull a heap off then need to run out yards of it...The cant shorten them, as unlike ours which snap together, theirs are screw joins..so the cant waste time screwing hose together..they don't have high pressure hose reels for a quick delivery...so you have to wait while hoses are spread out and pump primed,,,All take a lot of time.
I can't understand why it took these firefighters so long put on there turn out gear, and air packs, let alone how long to advance a hose line. No wonder the woods started up ? This dept. needs a lot more training !!!!!
Maybe im too calm but I say the fire department did just fine. You cant engage a pump until you are parked... they pulled what appeared to be a pre-connected hoseline and "flaked it out " and they put the fire out. The fire was a total loss on arrival and Oh no a tree might burn..... As for the gear issue maybe they were responding from a run that didnt require gear..... and personally I dont put my s.c.b.a. on until arrival either. Just the thoughts of a guy from Pa. Be safe..
Injury or mistakes are much more likely when one hurries. I contend that since there were no lives in imminent danger (if anyone was still in that RV they were well beyond saving before the first firetruck arrived) there was no need to hurry. There was no need for urgency, maybe 1 out of 10. I dropped your class.
well, I am confused. Was that a fire truck arriving at 5:00 (or so)? One guy getting out and moving away from the scene - some other people getting their jackets on and put their helmets on in somewhat two minutes time... I am not a fireman myself. I just think how I would react, if there was a fire in front of my house. Getting some clothes on: 30 sec - running to get the water hose from the cellar: 30 sec - finally having water spraying to the fire: 60~90 seconds.
I have been slow to criticize here, but as a 30 yr FF and chief, there is no excuse for not being prepared. Yes, this rig was a loss, but if this had been a situation that mattered, there could have been life loss. You ALWAYS have your gear on and be aired up when you get off the rig. They saw that header from their station, so they should have hit the ground ready. It was a multi minute response, and volunteer or no, that cab is big enough to put your gear on. Some retraining is in order...
@greasybentwrench COMMAND DUDE?!? And the reason they're "wasting water on a tree" is that it's easier to put out a moter home that's almost all burnt up than an entire mountain forest.
Deck gun would be ok if you had a hydrant. Location of this makes it hard to get to and water is not readily availiable. No firefighter gets to a scene in full ppe with scba especially if these guys are volunteers. I say good job on making sure that the woods were isolated.
To prevent the fire spreading perhaps, to get the road back open, to assure all the bystanders (and film-makers) that the fire department is efficient and quick in their response regardless of the type of fire. There was no sense of urgency about that operation, 3 out of 10, see me after class...
It was over before fire dept got on scene anyway, the guys needed water on it before this video even started, if the fire dept was at least 5 min sooner there would've been a chance to save it.
This has to be one of the worst extinction were carried out. They park the fire truck at 5:00 and is not even finished when dressed for the effort. The time 8:11, then the first stream of water running down 3 min 11 sec after arrival. Disastrously poorly done. One should, given the long run-time has been dressed for the effort and the water should have been at the maximum already after 30 seconds. Very very poorly done and are you so bad at this in America so poor you!
they should have been fully dressed and completely packed up with their air packs even before they got on scene, its common sense. but dont bash them because they didnt jump right on putting the fire out if they see if its a complete loss they should only focus on the woods. dont risk your life if it isnt worth it. dont run your mouth if your not in the fire dept. because you dont know what its like, you think you can do better fill out an application and then maybe you can have room to talk
It was good responce time on the FD getting to the scene with the traffic, but i will agree with others they should have been ready to fight with in 15 seconds or less of getting off the truck
Damn right we have to be combat ready in 90 seconds from the first tone. they should have been off the rig breathing air. I mean the driver takes forever to give get the pump running. they should have used the deck gun on the trees too as well as main KD on the motor home, if nothing else this is the prefect example of what not to do.
to the owners... preventative maintenance will severely help avoiding these situations and don't drive up a mountain like a bat out of hell and you won't overheat the exhaust manifold and turbo, also wiring is important to check . and to the fire dept... tire explosions, propane pressure relief venting, trees on fire.... HURRY THE FUCK UP!!!!
@firefghter19 You might want to review the devastation that Texas has had this year with wild fires, not to mention the California wildfires that seem to go on without end and destroy countless homes and take lives. Prioritizing the Wildland fire above the RV is one of the few things i would not change about this response had I been in their place.
Uh... just got to say something.... the place where this is burning is in the middle of NO WHERE. That looks like the Cle Elem fire department, 30 mins away at highway speed. It might be the Snoqualmie Pass FD, 10+ mins away. SP has maybe 1,000 people in the area. The area in which it is burning is very, very, very dry, who cares about a total loss motor home? This could have turned into a huge forest fire just as easily as it went out.
I was a firefighter in Wa State before mooveing to Philly.And I know we were not tought this shit at NorthBend. You get to the fire bunker gear on get out and get a handline and the Driver should have hit it with the deck gun for a sec or two to get a knockdown. Come on guys you know better than this
I am so glad these amateur 'Keystone Firemen' do not work at a busy airport. Maybe they figure that if they stuff around long enough the fire will go out by itself.
Well, I guess had they been faster - and seriously, that took like an age until they had water on it - the fire might NOT have spread to the trees.....
What happened to the way you see it in the movies when the firemen have their suits set out by the truck and they jump into them and head out. These guys took over 2 minutes just getting dressed.
No rush guys,,, just the woods about to catch on fire
All I can say is thank God you both got out alright,
You both are more important than the stuff you had in that RV.
Thats NOT a "Leaky" propane tank putting everyone in DANGER....
The SAFETY valve was working properly. It's DESIGNED to "Cook off" and it did that very well.When the tank gets close to its rated pressure the valve lets the fuel out at a controlled rate and it burns off usually without exploding. THIS IS NORMAL!
Oh my god a bad fire😩😩😩😩😩🔥🔥😵😵😵😵
As a firefighter myself I was some what perplexed by it taking them 3 minutes to get any water pumped. They did seem to take along time getting gear on and getting scba on. Once on scene it should not have taken that long to get water on the fire.
@MrZulu2065 Cool, thanks, I was wondering where that was, totally beautiful country too!
Whooop Whooop Whoop. Larry, Curley and Mo show!
Damn. Love their sense of humor about this. Wish I was the same way about stuff. And also, all tanks just filled...yep, worst case scenario. lol
For those complaining about fire department/brigade response time, remember that that is on I-90 on the east approach to Snoqualmie Pass in Washington state, about an hour east of Seattle - a very remote place. No fire hydrants (all water must be trucked in or drawn from a nearby body of water), long distances from emergency services stations, etc. For where that is, that response time is excellent. And with the propane tanks on board, the safest course for all concerned at that point is literally to let the motorhome burn out and worry about the wildfire.
+Grey Jay Three minutes from final positioning until water flowed to two firefighters properly dressed for the job. For a vehicle fire with no structures threatened. Not bad. I'll take all the time it takes for my crew and I to suit up properly, internet experts be damned.
+n1dp surely the crew should be suited up before arriving having all that time to actually get to the scene. Totally unacceptable for crew to be suiting up when arrived at a scene
+mgk920 Their set up time at the scene was unacceptable. I run a fire division so I know what I'm talking about here. Take that long on one of my scenes to get set up and you'll look for work elsewhere.
+Brett Swampy and what exactly are they going to save? the Pistons in the motor block? I see nothing wrong with there response.
+we tolow they are going to save a forest from catching fire and then maybe even someone's life and or property
Deck Gun?
I can tell you at our FD the firefighters the always put their gear and SCBA on right after leaving the station, and arriving on scene it doesn't take 30 seconds to have the 1st attack line out and wet on red
They did a good job putting that one out. Talk about explosions holy cow. Good job guys!
death85E nailed it! All you arm chair experts I suggest since you're such experts on fire suppression go join a Volunteer department or go try out for a career spot.
Also how many of you know where this is? The closest response would be from Cle Elem 30 mins away NOT running code. If it was a Volunteer rig that means they had to get to the house then respond. So getting bunker gear on at the scene actually saves time and same for a career rig ( for this scenario). Also getting water on the fire was the priority as it was solely a offensive situation meaning it was a total loss already ( which most vehicle fires are) and there was no rescue needed.
They did a fantastic job at controlling a GRASS fire not a " wild land fire" as the person reffered to. The tree line more than likely would've caught even if they teleported themselves there. That area is known for fires, a squirrel can rub his nuts wrong and it will ignite during summer months.
As for the propane tanks...they weren't " blowing up" they were doing exactly what they are designed to do. They have release valves to prevent them from blowing.
I say kudos to the FD but go ahead and give the pros your Twinkie Doritos mouth stuffed arm chair advice. But what do I know
Just keep in mind that this may have happened in a State/District where FFs are prohibited to gear up while driving (because they would be un-seatbelted for a period of time). I have no clue where this took place, just thought that may be why they didn't arrive already completely geared.
I agree,I worked for Paradise Fire Dept as a Volunteer back in the early 80's, and if my memory is correct, we had 43 second's from the first Tone Out, to jump into our Turnouts!! and climb on the tailboard d of the Engine...or you walked..I remember getting called out on a structure fire one night,and My pick-up was down..so I geared up with full turnouts and road my Honda 250 to the call. You all Be safe, Also,Thank you Dad,R.I.P. Martin "Ray" Howell Paradise Fire Battalion Chief 3. wemissu
You'll are to dramatic, FD sucked cause they should have been dressed and packed up before getting on the scene. The propane tank is venting like it should when it gets to hot. Explosin was probably the tires.... WOW is all I can say for that FD
Los Angeles FD and FDNY is way quicker and better than these guys!
As a professional career fire fighter for 28 + years I cannot believe what I am watching.
We have every right to criticize the incident commander or lack of on this incident.I would have solved this problem by terminating every fire fighter on this scene. What a joke !!!.
wow, crazy fire!
the firefighters need very long until they start extinguishing the fire....
in germany we won´t need so much time, when we arrive at scene we are completely suited up with our bunker gear, scba, infrared camera etc, we only have to take the nozzle and then we can start working............
good video
and sorry for my worse english....
@johnnykATL Thats why you put the gear on before you get on the truck, we have to be buckled at all times where im at, but you can still put the scba straps on, hang the mask, buckle the straps so all you have to do is pull the cord hop out and tighten the straps and your ready to rock.
well im going to say "sack the camera man he missed the 2 best explosions"
@bwalte03 I completely agree with you, I just mentioned that in response to the people commenting as to why they didn't gear up enroute. Also, that's assuming that they responded from quarters in which case there's no excuse for arriving without gear on, I was just thinking that maybe they were already on the road when they got dispatched (like returning to quarters from a medical call). Anyways, stay safe out there brotha!!
Kinda looks like something ghost rider would drive! Best Thing Ever
Was that a tire that let go at 6:20?
Because you can start a FORREST FIRE thats why they needed to hurry
modern day Propane tanks are so safe that a controlled venting such as this is really about the worse that can go wrong. It does not "explode" as you see in the movies, short of hitting it with an AP round. The vent is a spring loaded port that only opens when a certain pressure is reached. Hence the intermittent release.
Good job on the FF to take a defense strategy in a windy day like this.
did this get totaled or did the insurance repair it?
It was repaired...they took it to that water restoration place...it looks brand new today..amazing
how about a quick blitz with the deck gun to knock some of it down???
What caused the fire?
Those things burn two ways. Hot and Fast.
Chief would have our asses if we showed up to a scene without full turnout gear on....
nice video.....those 3 firefighters did a great job
I hate it when people say wheres the fire dept, because Scottie aboard the Enterprise didn't beam them to the fire they decided to drive the old fashion . The nerve of those firefighters.
Be nice, these men deserve some serious credit for this fire. This is not their first due area, the response time is long no matter what, not to mention the issues with calling 911 from a cell phone. Good job brothers.
We're a small department, but when we step off the engine at a fire scene, we're ready to go. It was at least 3 and half minutes of on scene time before they could get water flowing.
slowest fire depo i have ever seen wowwww
Middle of nowhere. Probably volunteer or coming up from Ellensburg. Their only concern is the brush fire, and not even that too much.
Sometimes when there is a fire on an interstate it takes longer to get to. Just saying. Lived with a fireman for 7 yrs and it happens, it depends on where fire is and where fire station is
Yea, You should be in full PPE and Donned in SCBA before you arrive on scene to go in service immediately.
hmmm ariving on scean with a crew cab an ur not already geard up ?
@Harleybum
well said!
I agree, in our department everyone would have geared up and packed up in route and water would be in the fire within 40 seconds of arriving on scene and under no circumstances would a command engine roll before an engine. That's poor coordinating right there.
We have a policy in place that says, you must be fully clothed PPE wise prior to getting on the truck. Seatbelts must be in place period. You have to put on everything else while belted in. It seriously sux, however with practice it works. I am a big guy 6'4" and I emplore every FF to do this not only for your safety, but so you dont have to answer to anyone why you where not belted in when you get into a wreck. P.S. your SCBA mask and belt straps can wait till you get on scene.
That is all.
This motorhome is Scaring Wild Life
@@Rj-yr1br I know
Great Video, but next time first make sure that your camera is in focus, and then try to keep it as steady as possible. A steady camera always makes for a better video! Otherwise another example of how slow a fire crew can be in getting water on a major fire.
Sorry if I'm in the wrong but it takes them 4 minutes to get water on the fire after turning up and they aren't even already wearing their gear. Seems quite slow in my opinion.
@me4u they were dispatch during there down time down time is when they go and get lunch or something and they were on their way back to the station so they could get geared while on route so they gear up on scene
A gang of untrained Girl Guides with a couple of buckets would have done a better job of tackling the fire.
I am so very glad I don't live in America and have to rely on those rank amateurs to protect my family and property from fire.
what caused the fire.?
Mice with matches
A little smoke damage, it's drivable
os bombeiros demoram uma eternidade p chega e quando chega anda fica dez minutos se arrumando porque ja nao chega arrumado ?
This is exactly why I believe all pumpers should have water cannons top mounted which can be operational in seconds upon arrival while the crew spends 10-minutes getting into gear and pulling lines. Water should've been on that fire in less than a minute but clearly with this dept, that didn't happen. They show up to an active fire scene with street clothes on.
@jimmiandfunny we have water on fire fire 30 seconds or less after we get on scene. we are suited up before we get to fire.
Love it. But i need some help should i do fire fighting i want to but not sure.
"Oh hey, look a fire" "What do we do?" "I don't know, maybe PUT SOME TURNOUT GEAR ON!!!
Using the Urban-Wildland Interface engine, I could have effectively fought this fire without ever leaving the cab.
Everyone, chill. This was uploaded purely as an entertainment video (or uploaded by the owner of the RV), and we have no right as emergency services PROFESSIONALS to critique the response of the Fire Department in this video. Every department has different procedures, and we can't interject ourselves into this call. So, once again, I call on the armchair Incident Commanders to exercise some command judgement, and work on problems you CAN solve. That is all.
What the hell good is this and many other F/Depts it takes them for ever to get there then thy stand around picking their butts until the hill side catches fire. I see this all the time. I think at heart they are pyromaniacs that just love to see shit burn. Until the fore gets out of control they are not interested in putting it out. Like cops they need drama I guess.
johnnyohness I am a firefighter ( private) and I also get amazed for the time I see in most of the videos in US they take too long to get water or foam in the fire By the time they took here to put water I would have the fire knocked down already. Firefighters could be from a volunteer FD but they should act professionally not like amateurs.
I think there are two reasons the USFD take an age to get water going. 1, their pumps are to complicated.I watched a pump training vid...they had to engage this, and put that into gear, wait for some gauge to balance then prime Some thing else..2. their hose lines are to long, they pull a heap off then need to run out yards of it...The cant shorten them, as unlike ours which snap together, theirs are screw joins..so the cant waste time screwing hose together..they don't have high pressure hose reels for a quick delivery...so you have to wait while hoses are spread out and pump primed,,,All take a lot of time.
I can't understand why it took these firefighters so long put on there turn out gear, and air packs, let alone how long to advance a hose line. No wonder the woods started up ? This dept. needs a lot more training !!!!!
Maybe im too calm but I say the fire department did just fine. You cant engage a pump until you are parked... they pulled what appeared to be a pre-connected hoseline and "flaked it out " and they put the fire out. The fire was a total loss on arrival and Oh no a tree might burn..... As for the gear issue maybe they were responding from a run that didnt require gear..... and personally I dont put my s.c.b.a. on until arrival either. Just the thoughts of a guy from Pa. Be safe..
FOCUS!
Injury or mistakes are much more likely when one hurries. I contend that since there were no lives in imminent danger (if anyone was still in that RV they were well beyond saving before the first firetruck arrived) there was no need to hurry.
There was no need for urgency, maybe 1 out of 10. I dropped your class.
well, I am confused. Was that a fire truck arriving at 5:00 (or so)?
One guy getting out and moving away from the scene - some other people getting their jackets on and put their helmets on in somewhat two minutes time...
I am not a fireman myself. I just think how I would react, if there was a fire in front of my house. Getting some clothes on: 30 sec - running to get the water hose from the cellar: 30 sec - finally having water spraying to the fire: 60~90 seconds.
That FD must not get many calls. That response was poor at best.
I have been slow to criticize here, but as a 30 yr FF and chief, there is no excuse for not being prepared. Yes, this rig was a loss, but if this had been a situation that mattered, there could have been life loss. You ALWAYS have your gear on and be aired up when you get off the rig. They saw that header from their station, so they should have hit the ground ready. It was a multi minute response, and volunteer or no, that cab is big enough to put your gear on. Some retraining is in order...
This is got to be one of the biggest screw ups any department could pull off What a disgrace to the fire service.
@greasybentwrench COMMAND DUDE?!? And the reason they're "wasting water on a tree" is that it's easier to put out a moter home that's almost all burnt up than an entire mountain forest.
use foam if your going to try and put out the camper
1:43 ambulances crews are not first responders, I wonder what they are then?
Deck gun would be ok if you had a hydrant. Location of this makes it hard to get to and water is not readily availiable. No firefighter gets to a scene in full ppe with scba especially if these guys are volunteers. I say good job on making sure that the woods were isolated.
@jimmiandfunny when we arrive at a fire we have water going within 30seconds we are allready suited up and everthing.
To prevent the fire spreading perhaps, to get the road back open, to assure all the bystanders (and film-makers) that the fire department is efficient and quick in their response regardless of the type of fire.
There was no sense of urgency about that operation, 3 out of 10, see me after class...
Was that the Nascar fire Dept. SLOW.......
Seriously guys, have your gear on when you arrive on SCENE!!! Scott'ing up after you get there makes you look bad for one, and you loose so much time.
It was over before fire dept got on scene anyway, the guys needed water on it before this video even started, if the fire dept was at least 5 min sooner there would've been a chance to save it.
This has to be one of the worst extinction were carried out. They park the fire truck at 5:00 and is not even finished when dressed for the effort. The time 8:11, then the first stream of water running down 3 min 11 sec after arrival. Disastrously poorly done. One should, given the long run-time has been dressed for the effort and the water should have been at the maximum already after 30 seconds. Very very poorly done and are you so bad at this in America so poor you!
they should have been fully dressed and completely packed up with their air packs even before they got on scene, its common sense. but dont bash them because they didnt jump right on putting the fire out if they see if its a complete loss they should only focus on the woods. dont risk your life if it isnt worth it. dont run your mouth if your not in the fire dept. because you dont know what its like, you think you can do better fill out an application and then maybe you can have room to talk
that is the relief valve on the propane tank opening so it doesnt bleve
LOL "Ghost Rider Vehicle"
It was good responce time on the FD getting to the scene with the traffic, but i will agree with others they should have been ready to fight with in 15 seconds or less of getting off the truck
Damn right we have to be combat ready in 90 seconds from the first tone. they should have been off the rig breathing air. I mean the driver takes forever to give get the pump running. they should have used the deck gun on the trees too as well as main KD on the motor home, if nothing else this is the prefect example of what not to do.
ONE SUPER HOT DEAL. USED MOTORHOME 50 CENTS!!! j/k What caused the fire? Overheated engine?
to the owners... preventative maintenance will severely help avoiding these situations and don't drive up a mountain like a bat out of hell and you won't overheat the exhaust manifold and turbo, also wiring is important to check . and to the fire dept... tire explosions, propane pressure relief venting, trees on fire.... HURRY THE FUCK UP!!!!
@firefghter19 You might want to review the devastation that Texas has had this year with wild fires, not to mention the California wildfires that seem to go on without end and destroy countless homes and take lives. Prioritizing the Wildland fire above the RV is one of the few things i would not change about this response had I been in their place.
Uh... just got to say something.... the place where this is burning is in the middle of NO WHERE. That looks like the Cle Elem fire department, 30 mins away at highway speed. It might be the Snoqualmie Pass FD, 10+ mins away. SP has maybe 1,000 people in the area.
The area in which it is burning is very, very, very dry, who cares about a total loss motor home? This could have turned into a huge forest fire just as easily as it went out.
Yes, but does it really matter? That RV was a total loss long before they arrived. What's the point of hurrying?
Show up ready to go to work..
Salute brother
That fire department has all the urgency of a sloth.
Lucky, if that was Utah, half the state would be burnt. During summer (dry season) even a spark could set the woods on fire.
I was a firefighter in Wa State before mooveing to Philly.And I know we were not tought this shit at NorthBend. You get to the fire bunker gear on get out and get a handline and the Driver should have hit it with the deck gun for a sec or two to get a knockdown. Come on guys you know better than this
esta bien grabado el video pero la parte de los bomberos al no llegar bestidos al servicio esta mal
I think this video is more about the world's slowest fire department
The fireman too slow in this case lead to terrible consequences.
I like the guy complaining about the 20 minute wait for the fire dept. Look around!
No reason to hurry. Just let it burn away -- nothing to save there except the trees.
I am so glad these amateur 'Keystone Firemen' do not work at a busy airport. Maybe they figure that if they stuff around long enough the fire will go out by itself.
Push the focus button please.
Well, I guess had they been faster - and seriously, that took like an age until they had water on it - the fire might NOT have spread to the trees.....
The motorhome catching fire is bad enough you need a wild fire too
What happened to the way you see it in the movies when the firemen have their suits set out by the truck and they jump into them and head out. These guys took over 2 minutes just getting dressed.
just curious how you could not realize you were out of focus the whole time
It's called Adrenaline & probably a bit of inattention added into the mix.