@@69adidas Horribly low range is their Achilles Heel (death blow). Nobody, NOBODY can handle being out on their bike for a medium length Saturday cruise & run low on range / out of juice. For "Urban ONLY" motorcyclists I think the EV bikes could work. But thats a pretty small crowd to market to - Motorcyclists are way in the minority + ones who care about EV, even less. Being the so called "climate crisis" is 98.5% illusory, there's just no broad call for EV bikes. I will say that E-Bikes have their place - be they Fat Tire MTB style or Road Bike style - but they're replacing / augmenting Bicycles NOT Motorcycles ! I may be the rare person that has both Motorcycle (ADV Suzuki V-Strom 650) and Mountain bike & Road bikes. Love anything on 2 wheels !
There is a segment for electric motorcycles, like small commuting scooters, but the prices are as insane as in the auto EV segment. Look at the Gogoro in Taiwan. That concept of easily swappable batteries looks smart, but I dont know the fees and the sustainability.
Stop making the superbikes that we can't ride legally on the road to their full potential, and make economic practicable all rounders that we can afford to buy, insure, maintain, and run, fit comfortably, with reasonable performance. And not electric!
They are doing just that. The most successful brand, Royal Enfield, has rolled out a series of small , affordable and feature rich bikes that are selling top young and old alike.
Ich hab Royal Enfield Meteor 5 Monat gekauft. Fahrspaß Genießen. ❤❤❤❤ Ich brauche keine Rennmotorrad. Wofür,andere Große Motorrad Harley viel zu schwer Gewicht. Nix kaufen.
Its very simple. The new generation do not ride bikes. Back in the day 9 out 10 kids would have their first bike at early teens or earlier. Now 1 out of 10 and if. The out of reach prices its a big factor. For the same money a teenager can buy a used car. The choice its obvious.
@@ranchodeluxe1 I just replaced my 2003 100th Anniversary Ultra that had 135K miles with a 2012 Ultra Classic with 20K miles. I kept my choice earlier than 2014 to avoid the TV screens and also the diminishing of so much trim detail. The 2025 Ultras now have a screen that totally eliminates all real gauges. When the bike is off it simply looks like crap. Like you I'll buy used. I think riders are trading in these bikes and not replacing them. The used market is flooded, which is keeping new bike sales way down.
@@halnwheels My local dealer's 25 miles from Sturgis. They probably make more on used bike sales than new. My shop is just down the street so I get quite a few guys who just want a quick used bike inspection. Guys are coming by here with older touring bikes with 30k miles, perfect shape and in the $5k range. That's a lot of cheap miles if your ego can handle an older bike. Back when 95 ci big bore kits and 103 conversions were the rage, I ratholed several sets of brand-new cylinders, pistons, rings, heads, lifters, flywheels, etc. I did this knowing that I'll be able to run those older Touring bikes for the rest of my riding life and keep them going for virtually nothing but gaskets, seals and oil.
Too many stupid extras, too expensive, too bad a reputation, too many models... and now too many idiots on bikes. Lots of baby boomers are dying and passing on their motorcycles...
I did my part, I recently bought a new V7. Of all the 25 motorcycles I have ever owned, I like it the most. The quality of the parts and attention to detail puts the Japanese bikes to shame.
@louislopez55 Good man! V7 was always my dream bike. Bought a '21 V7 Special and shortly after traded my R6 for a Griso, couldn't be happier with both of them. Sure I'll only get more, best bikes around imo.
350ccm honda can cost about 6000 or 7000€. bigger bikes are 9000€ and more. plus gear and insurance.... like buying good second hand car. why is this happening is not even a relevant question
In the 1980s a moped was 3 to £400.00 on finance it was £500.00 now it's over £1000.00 for the moped and over £1000.00 for the insurance, a crash helmet and kit your looking at around 2.5 k all in that's driving lesson money, use public electric scooters until they pass their driving test and motorbikes get ignored.
Why is there no sportbike that goes 0-60mph or 100kph in 4 seconds and a topspeed around 100mph/160kph. Don't need no 1000cc 4 cilinder bike. Fun sporty riding don't need 200hp..
The 'delayed' transition to electric has nothing to do with this slump. The reasons behind it are simple. One, younger people don't ride as much as we do. My nephew wants a bike, I don't know of any other kids who want one, it's not even on their radar. Two, the bikes cost too damn much for what you get. Harley is a particular offender here. There's only so much you can, and should, jam on to a bike technology-wise. Indian offers a bit more than Harley for the price, but this goes to number three. Three, say I buy a nice bike with navigation and safety features, what good is the navigation if the bike is built for an anorexic midget contortionist, and has about 120 miles of range, give or take? What good are the safety features when the main causes of bike accidents are solo accidents by people riding WAY past their skill level, and moron drivers turning into my right of way? If they want to sell more bikes, they need to do a few things. One, marketing. They're preaching to the choir in most cases, they need new riders. Two, reasonable pricing, especially to get those new riders. There will always be middle aged men and women willing to drop 20-30K on Harley, it's the lower end that needs attention. Three, if you're going to sell bikes in the US stop making them to fit Peter Dinklage as comfortably as possible. He's a good actor and seems like a decent dude, but he's not the median when it comes to the build of the target audience. I'm 6'3", and I know I'm tall, but I am NOT that far out of the bell curve in terms of height that sitting on any bike other than a super moto should put me into a full squat. For the love of god, please put an engineering hat on and come up with some stock adjustability for taller people. Four, put a bigger tank on the damn thing. I expect range limitation from crappy electric bikes, gas is ENERGY DENSE as hell, so please get an extra gallon or so on to the bike so we can RIDE. Five, address some basics that really should have been addressed a long time ago, like self canceling turn signals. How many bikes still have manual? This is not a challenge, and on a bike it's a major safety concern. They've taken their eye off the ball. Harley thought they would never run out of dentists in their mid forties ready to drop 30K on a toy, and they may not, but they and all the other manufacturers keep making bikes with 100 miles of range and that are engineered for Peter Dinklage, adding 'safety' features of questionable value, and pumping up the prices such that the 'entry level' is beyond what most people who WANT to ride are willing to pay. Of course there's a slump, who wants to buy a bike they can't ride comfortably and that won't go very far even if they could, and that's loaded down with features that no one seems to really want? I have navigation on my phone, music on my phone, so give me a USB port and a mount and you can ditch 90% of the Buick sized fairing, AND take it off the damn price.
People just aren't willing to pay 10k+ for a bike anymore, and neither am I. Right now, I ride a Brixton 500XC that I got new for 6k. Chinese bikes like CFMoto 700MT, 800NK or 675SRS are just insane when it comes to technology and costs under 8k new.
Energica went out of business and entered into liquidation sales back in October 2024. I purchased a lightly used 2024 Experia with a market value of USD 23,000. I was able to get it discounted to $17,000 USD. However, the financing interest rate was 13%. I went in knowing the risk of purchasing a defunct manufacturer brand and model. You should pay off the loan as quickly as possible to minimize the interest paid.
When Harley-Davidson was really thriving, we left sales on the table knowing that alone would keep the product desirable. That's not what EVERY MBA is taught in business school, but it was very obvious to those of us with a real passion for more than money.
@spartanx169x I just meant that most of what the video said, I've also observed to be true locally (East Texas). Not every single thing. Most videos don't cite sources - but you're free to verify.
Harley couldn't make enough ultras in the 90s when boomers retired with whole lot of disposable income. Now they're too old to ride and dying with new retirees still working to pay debts. They now can't move road glides with 10k+ off.
For information, the early 1980s were also terrible for bike sales. I recall Yamaha, for example, having a huge stockpile that took a long time and heavy discounts to clear, especially in America.
If 100 new bikes are sold there will not 100 old bikes crash or being trashed and disappear in the same time. I wonder already without crisis, where all the motorbikes are, since they always seem to increase in number?! Any ideas on that?
Expand your investigation. Environmentally motivated politics force manufacturers to make stupid decisions. Since (in Europe) existing models are allowed, but new engines need to meet new limits, they choose to slap new plastic on existing bikes to replace older models that lost their cool. For instance the best tourer Honda had, the 1300ST Pan European was kept in production for a long, long time. Customers wanted to buy a new one, but it remained the same model. Those potential buyers left Honda, and looked elsewhere. In desperation they took the Africa Twin, cut off its balls and called it a tourer. All of a sudden the buyer was force fed the believe in a chain instead of a maintenance free driveshaft, a back seat the size of a postage stamp and a two-cylinder 1100CC thumper instead of a powerful V4 1300.. They call this "crimpflation" Pay more, get less. And how about Suzuki. Seen any new models lately? So it seems the bottom line is that sales are declining because we should buy shit like an electric Goldwing the size of a moped. Politics kills motorbike riding.
I blame insurance costs and technology, there is a prepensity to write everything off for the most minor piece of damage after an accident raising the costs of insurance for everyone.
Not entirely true, as some markets in Asia growing quite strongly, India up by 9%. These markets aren't buying luxury bikes, but commuters mainly and Harley owners are dying and they have lost the youth market.
So the manufacturers increased their prices during an economic crisis, in the brink of a World War. 😂 This is a real mistery to solve. It looks like the same monkeys lead the motorcycle companies than the autoindustry.
millennial here, for me its just the cost i have nothing against buying used its just i don't trust people specially when it comes to vehicles cause they never mention small problems that can lead to bigger problems which most of the time is the reason why its trying to be sold. got a few i have my eye on im gonna save up for bmw r18 b or roctane,honda rebel 1100 and the honda fury
Zero want £24,500 for a bike with 135 mile range (they say) ? I was in a bike shop in Bristol and even with a £7,500 discount no one was buying ????????????????????????????
Click baity title. The motorcycle industry is not facing competition from electric bikes. Energica went tits up last year and hardly anyone is buying Live Wires. There is a shift in what buyers want and the smart manufacturers are catering to that. Triumph's new 400s are selling like crazy. KTM is on its ass. They're not gaining market share at all. They have 260,000 unsold motorcycles on dealer floors around the world. They've halted production. They're "restructuring" and their CEO just stepped down.
Remember, chinese bikes are rising alarmingly. The reason why Japanese and European bikes are decreasing their prices because of the chinese bikes, selling cheap prices. The problems of chinese bikes are reliability, durability, affordability and low maintenance cost. Chinese bikes are threats in the motorcycle industry. I would rather buy Japanese bikes than chinese bikes
The economic crisis is being covered up with inflation, but it can't be hidden. Inflation is yet to come. The rich are even richer, but it's a small market, especially for motorcycles, most ordinary people have less money than they did ten years ago. A large part of motorcycling has become a luxury because it costs 5-6 times as much as a car, and in times of crisis, people first give up luxury items. In addition, cheap motorcycles "for transportation" are mostly made in China because price is the most important parameter. There is currently a 5-7% decrease in sales, but I believe that this will grow to 10-20%, possibly even more. Reduced demand means smaller series, which means higher prices per unit, which in turn reduces demand and it will be a closed loop.
Chinese bikes have entered marked, they are cheaper than traditional brands. This was not the case in my country just few years ago. So it`s still possible to get affordable bike.
No wonder, kidz now grown up, were brain washed that they would be hurting the planet if riding anything else but pedal bikes, but they rather develope olympic thumbs that go out do something else, plus prices of a bike now is like a regular car of not so long ago....then HD went woke....we havent reach bottom yet
The golden age of huge ,.heavy expensive bikes 🏍 is over.. new generation of mid size easy to maneuver, maintain, reasonably priced parts and non snobbish dealerships... Yep 😊
Riding is between me and my machine. Not high tech bull shit that i never asked for,...and only adds to the list of what can possibly break down. Give me a 25/30 year old $2000 basic machine anyday. And then once you start adding political correctness into the frey, phk off !
You're making a mountain out of a molehill, 4% drops and 6% drops year-on-year for individual models is to be expected. Plus you don't cite any source. This is fake news, basically. For clicks. You need to do better.
Young people want light electric motorbikes. Like the Surron. The big manufacturers are still making motorbikes with old technology for a declining population.
Not precisely true. The Sur Ron is a whole diff category of bike. It's a lightweight EV Motocross bike, period - for short spurts off road. EV bikes are a disaster for long distance / touring / unknown locations. IE if you don't have outlet or time to wait for charging, oops !
@@psalm2forliberty577 I would not say a disaster. I have an eletric motorcycle myself. For anything lower than 400km per day it is way better than any fuel bike. An electric motor is fundamentally better than a combustion engine. But you are right that rides above 400km a day require indeed more planning. But let's face it: how many riders do these kinds of rides very regularly.
@mmistermusic I think at 240 miles / 400km you're either a very special case, go really slow or are exaggerating. What speed are you riding at ? The longest range at USA Highway speeds 70 - 80 mph I've ever heard of is 90 miles Then requires a 2-4 hour charge lol. That's worse than a bad joke. Back to what I said: EV Motorcycles are NOT going to succeed in the USA generally - only in tiny urban enclaves. We're not running out of Oil Reserves & there is no "Climate Crisis". BUT if you can hang within their limitations & can afford to pay far more to have them, go for it.
@@psalm2forliberty577 I meant 400km a day. Not in one go. You do 200km, take a short break to charge. Ride another 100km. Take another short break to charge. In my experience doing 400km is easy to plan. I agree it depends on the region. In europe it is easy to plan a 400km trip. There are AC charger everywhere. About cost: For me, and electric motorcycle is cheaper. I have free solar electricity and pay less tax. For me it is the cheaper option, not the more expensive one.
why would i buy an electric motorcycle when my e bicycle gets me round the inner-city faster? [checkout the latest Micheal Michael movie 'the killer'] with no number plate so no fines, 25p for a full charge equals a penny a mile and i can use dedicated cycle lanes, if you count e bicycles as motorcycles then the number taking up motorcycling is going up, 6 motorcycles in the garage when i want a ride to the coast
Electrification is not the answer for motorcycle future...
@@69adidas
Horribly low range is their Achilles Heel (death blow).
Nobody, NOBODY can handle being out on their bike for a medium length Saturday cruise & run low on range / out of juice.
For "Urban ONLY" motorcyclists I think the EV bikes could work.
But thats a pretty small crowd to market to - Motorcyclists are way in the minority + ones who care about EV, even less.
Being the so called "climate crisis" is 98.5% illusory, there's just no broad call for EV bikes.
I will say that E-Bikes have their place - be they Fat Tire MTB style or Road Bike style - but they're replacing / augmenting Bicycles NOT Motorcycles !
I may be the rare person that has both Motorcycle (ADV Suzuki V-Strom 650) and Mountain bike & Road bikes.
Love anything on 2 wheels !
There is a segment for electric motorcycles, like small commuting scooters, but the prices are as insane as in the auto EV segment. Look at the Gogoro in Taiwan. That concept of easily swappable batteries looks smart, but I dont know the fees and the sustainability.
motorcycles are very expensive now...that is why sales are low
Stop making the superbikes that we can't ride legally on the road to their full potential, and make economic practicable all rounders that we can afford to buy, insure, maintain, and run, fit comfortably, with reasonable performance. And not electric!
@@MonochromaticLightsource exactly that...amen
Speak for your damn self. Go buy a Honda groom.
They are doing just that. The most successful brand, Royal Enfield, has rolled out a series of small , affordable and feature rich bikes that are selling top young and old alike.
Ich hab Royal Enfield Meteor 5 Monat gekauft. Fahrspaß Genießen. ❤❤❤❤ Ich brauche keine Rennmotorrad. Wofür,andere Große Motorrad Harley viel zu schwer Gewicht. Nix kaufen.
@@lutzrosi I have habe 30 Fahrrader; nur drei stammer aus diesem Jahrhundert! BMW R90T, Moto Guzzi V7, und Suzuki GSXR1000K2.
Its very simple.
The new generation do not ride bikes.
Back in the day 9 out 10 kids would have their first bike at early teens or earlier.
Now 1 out of 10 and if.
The out of reach prices its a big factor.
For the same money a teenager can buy a used car.
The choice its obvious.
Maybe riders don’t want to pay for wide screen tv displays mounted on the handle bars. KLR and DR 650 get the job done
On my 5th KLR650 now...I want simplicity not a fkng computer room I have that at work I don't want it on my bike.
That's why I'm riding a 24 -year-old Ultra Classic.
@@ranchodeluxe1 I just replaced my 2003 100th Anniversary Ultra that had 135K miles with a 2012 Ultra Classic with 20K miles. I kept my choice earlier than 2014 to avoid the TV screens and also the diminishing of so much trim detail. The 2025 Ultras now have a screen that totally eliminates all real gauges. When the bike is off it simply looks like crap. Like you I'll buy used. I think riders are trading in these bikes and not replacing them. The used market is flooded, which is keeping new bike sales way down.
@@halnwheels My local dealer's 25 miles from Sturgis. They probably make more on used bike sales than new. My shop is just down the street so I get quite a few guys who just want a quick used bike inspection. Guys are coming by here with older touring bikes with 30k miles, perfect shape and in the $5k range. That's a lot of cheap miles if your ego can handle an older bike. Back when 95 ci big bore kits and 103 conversions were the rage, I ratholed several sets of brand-new cylinders, pistons, rings, heads, lifters, flywheels, etc. I did this knowing that I'll be able to run those older Touring bikes for the rest of my riding life and keep them going for virtually nothing but gaskets, seals and oil.
Weniger ist mehr.
All boils down to a broken economy across the board. Everyone has lost spare cash on what is now deemed to be a non essential hobby.
WEF is against us all. Everyone is feeling the pinch.
There is no demand for electric bikes. No one wants them.
Too many stupid extras, too expensive, too bad a reputation, too many models... and now too many idiots on bikes. Lots of baby boomers are dying and passing on their motorcycles...
this has been happening to most sector. people are getting poorer and they cant afford to buy and maintain stuff
Just let Moto Guzzi survive.
I did my part, I recently bought a new V7. Of all the 25 motorcycles I have ever owned, I like it the most. The quality of the parts and attention to detail puts the Japanese bikes to shame.
@louislopez55 Good man! V7 was always my dream bike. Bought a '21 V7 Special and shortly after traded my R6 for a Griso, couldn't be happier with both of them. Sure I'll only get more, best bikes around imo.
The BIKES ARE JUST WAY TOMUCH MONEY IN CANADA .I think that's why not selling .
Zu viel Elektronik, zu teuer und wer braucht auf der Straße mehr als 120 PS? Und bitte keine E motorräder
People aren’t buying electric motorbikes, they are buying or using public electric scooters
350ccm honda can cost about 6000 or 7000€. bigger bikes are 9000€ and more. plus gear and insurance.... like buying good second hand car. why is this happening is not even a relevant question
In the 1980s a moped was 3 to £400.00 on finance it was £500.00 now it's over £1000.00 for the moped and over £1000.00 for the insurance, a crash helmet and kit your looking at around 2.5 k all in that's driving lesson money, use public electric scooters until they pass their driving test and motorbikes get ignored.
Why is there no sportbike that goes 0-60mph or 100kph in 4 seconds and a topspeed around 100mph/160kph.
Don't need no 1000cc 4 cilinder bike. Fun sporty riding don't need 200hp..
try the Triumph Speed Twin 900......
@amicus1479 too heavy. 160kg top.
The 'delayed' transition to electric has nothing to do with this slump. The reasons behind it are simple. One, younger people don't ride as much as we do. My nephew wants a bike, I don't know of any other kids who want one, it's not even on their radar. Two, the bikes cost too damn much for what you get. Harley is a particular offender here. There's only so much you can, and should, jam on to a bike technology-wise. Indian offers a bit more than Harley for the price, but this goes to number three. Three, say I buy a nice bike with navigation and safety features, what good is the navigation if the bike is built for an anorexic midget contortionist, and has about 120 miles of range, give or take? What good are the safety features when the main causes of bike accidents are solo accidents by people riding WAY past their skill level, and moron drivers turning into my right of way?
If they want to sell more bikes, they need to do a few things. One, marketing. They're preaching to the choir in most cases, they need new riders. Two, reasonable pricing, especially to get those new riders. There will always be middle aged men and women willing to drop 20-30K on Harley, it's the lower end that needs attention. Three, if you're going to sell bikes in the US stop making them to fit Peter Dinklage as comfortably as possible. He's a good actor and seems like a decent dude, but he's not the median when it comes to the build of the target audience. I'm 6'3", and I know I'm tall, but I am NOT that far out of the bell curve in terms of height that sitting on any bike other than a super moto should put me into a full squat. For the love of god, please put an engineering hat on and come up with some stock adjustability for taller people. Four, put a bigger tank on the damn thing. I expect range limitation from crappy electric bikes, gas is ENERGY DENSE as hell, so please get an extra gallon or so on to the bike so we can RIDE. Five, address some basics that really should have been addressed a long time ago, like self canceling turn signals. How many bikes still have manual? This is not a challenge, and on a bike it's a major safety concern.
They've taken their eye off the ball. Harley thought they would never run out of dentists in their mid forties ready to drop 30K on a toy, and they may not, but they and all the other manufacturers keep making bikes with 100 miles of range and that are engineered for Peter Dinklage, adding 'safety' features of questionable value, and pumping up the prices such that the 'entry level' is beyond what most people who WANT to ride are willing to pay. Of course there's a slump, who wants to buy a bike they can't ride comfortably and that won't go very far even if they could, and that's loaded down with features that no one seems to really want? I have navigation on my phone, music on my phone, so give me a USB port and a mount and you can ditch 90% of the Buick sized fairing, AND take it off the damn price.
Agree, 6ft4 here with 36" inseam. The focus on low seat height and high footpegs (lean angle) makes modern bikes unsuitable for tall people.
Have you looked into the BMW 1250GS ?
Very large & tall bike - my 6'5" buddy fits him perfect.
People just aren't willing to pay 10k+ for a bike anymore, and neither am I.
Right now, I ride a Brixton 500XC that I got new for 6k.
Chinese bikes like CFMoto 700MT, 800NK or 675SRS are just insane when it comes to technology and costs under 8k new.
Hardly anyone grows up riding bikes now....
Energica went out of business and entered into liquidation sales back in October 2024. I purchased a lightly used 2024 Experia with a market value of USD 23,000. I was able to get it discounted to $17,000 USD. However, the financing interest rate was 13%. I went in knowing the risk of purchasing a defunct manufacturer brand and model. You should pay off the loan as quickly as possible to minimize the interest paid.
When Harley-Davidson was really thriving, we left sales on the table knowing that alone would keep the product desirable. That's not what EVERY MBA is taught in business school, but it was very obvious to those of us with a real passion for more than money.
Harley went crazy with it’s prices… A sales decline was to be expected
Not a single reference to any source.
It’s a clickbait title. They capitalised the buzzwords that will make people watch the video without questioning the information
Yet it's essentially correct.
Amazing !
@@psalm2forliberty577 But how do you know? Do you have a source?
@spartanx169x
I just meant that most of what the video said, I've also observed to be true locally (East Texas).
Not every single thing.
Most videos don't cite sources - but you're free to verify.
Harley couldn't make enough ultras in the 90s when boomers retired with whole lot of disposable income. Now they're too old to ride and dying with new retirees still working to pay debts. They now can't move road glides with 10k+ off.
For information, the early 1980s were also terrible for bike sales. I recall Yamaha, for example, having a huge stockpile that took a long time and heavy discounts to clear, especially in America.
The 2024 downturn was not unexpected.
If 100 new bikes are sold there will not 100 old bikes crash or being trashed and disappear in the same time. I wonder already without crisis, where all the motorbikes are, since they always seem to increase in number?!
Any ideas on that?
Harley prices will bury them. Dealers still have 2024 and some 2023 bikes in showroom.
Expand your investigation. Environmentally motivated politics force manufacturers to make stupid decisions.
Since (in Europe) existing models are allowed, but new engines need to meet new limits, they choose to slap new plastic on existing bikes to replace older models that lost their cool. For instance the best tourer Honda had, the 1300ST Pan European was kept in production for a long, long time. Customers wanted to buy a new one, but it remained the same model. Those potential buyers left Honda, and looked elsewhere. In desperation they took the Africa Twin, cut off its balls and called it a tourer. All of a sudden the buyer was force fed the believe in a chain instead of a maintenance free driveshaft, a back seat the size of a postage stamp and a two-cylinder 1100CC thumper instead of a powerful V4 1300..
They call this "crimpflation" Pay more, get less.
And how about Suzuki. Seen any new models lately?
So it seems the bottom line is that sales are declining because we should buy shit like an electric Goldwing the size of a moped. Politics kills motorbike riding.
The St1300 and the ST1100 last a long long time.
Electric bikes are not on the rise. Quite the opposite. The whole electric bike/car industry is dying on it's arse! 😂
I blame insurance costs and technology, there is a prepensity to write everything off for the most minor piece of damage after an accident raising the costs of insurance for everyone.
Not entirely true, as some markets in Asia growing quite strongly, India up by 9%. These markets aren't buying luxury bikes, but commuters mainly and Harley owners are dying and they have lost the youth market.
There is no reason to believe anything said in this video. Too many youtubers make all kinds of wild claims and never a source.
200 mph motorcycles in a era that cop cars do 154 and have cameras is futile.
Small Chinese motorcycles and scooters are the future as cars become unaffordable.
KTM , not looking good , at the moment
So the manufacturers increased their prices during an economic crisis, in the brink of a World War. 😂 This is a real mistery to solve. It looks like the same monkeys lead the motorcycle companies than the autoindustry.
millennial here, for me its just the cost i have nothing against buying used its just i don't trust people specially when it comes to vehicles cause they never mention small problems that can lead to bigger problems which most of the time is the reason why its trying to be sold. got a few i have my eye on im gonna save up for bmw r18 b or roctane,honda rebel 1100 and the honda fury
The market is saturated. Harley saturated their market back in 2003 for the 100th anniversary and they’ve been on the decline ever since.
Manufacturers need to start listening to riders. Royal Enfield gets it.
wenn ich mit meiner alten Maschine neben einer neuen stehe, hör ich die nicht mal beim anfahren, so ohne jeden Sound würde ich die auch nicht kaufen
Zero want £24,500 for a bike with 135 mile range (they say) ? I was in a bike shop in Bristol and even with a £7,500 discount no one was buying ????????????????????????????
Click baity title. The motorcycle industry is not facing competition from electric bikes. Energica went tits up last year and hardly anyone is buying Live Wires. There is a shift in what buyers want and the smart manufacturers are catering to that. Triumph's new 400s are selling like crazy. KTM is on its ass. They're not gaining market share at all. They have 260,000 unsold motorcycles on dealer floors around the world. They've halted production. They're "restructuring" and their CEO just stepped down.
Remember, chinese bikes are rising alarmingly. The reason why Japanese and European bikes are decreasing their prices because of the chinese bikes, selling cheap prices. The problems of chinese bikes are reliability, durability, affordability and low maintenance cost. Chinese bikes are threats in the motorcycle industry. I would rather buy Japanese bikes than chinese bikes
The economic crisis is being covered up with inflation, but it can't be hidden. Inflation is yet to come. The rich are even richer, but it's a small market, especially for motorcycles, most ordinary people have less money than they did ten years ago. A large part of motorcycling has become a luxury because it costs 5-6 times as much as a car, and in times of crisis, people first give up luxury items. In addition, cheap motorcycles "for transportation" are mostly made in China because price is the most important parameter. There is currently a 5-7% decrease in sales, but I believe that this will grow to 10-20%, possibly even more. Reduced demand means smaller series, which means higher prices per unit, which in turn reduces demand and it will be a closed loop.
This channel is full of bull sh***
Chinese bikes have entered marked, they are cheaper than traditional brands. This was not the case in my country just few years ago. So it`s still possible to get affordable bike.
No wonder, kidz now grown up, were brain washed that they would be hurting the planet if riding anything else but pedal bikes, but they rather develope olympic thumbs that go out do something else, plus prices of a bike now is like a regular car of not so long ago....then HD went woke....we havent reach bottom yet
I had to restart the video, Harley-Davidson associated with engineering excellence and innovation ? We live on very different planets, my friend.
When my Harley went wrong, I part disassembled it to look for the fault. I found a sticker saying "made by union labor". I rest my case m'lud.
The golden age of huge ,.heavy expensive bikes 🏍 is over.. new generation of mid size easy to maneuver, maintain, reasonably priced parts and non snobbish dealerships...
Yep 😊
The Chinese are penetrating the market hard.
Boomers are aging out of the market.
7 minutes in and I cannot listen to any more ???????????????
Riding is between me and my machine. Not high tech bull shit that i never asked for,...and only adds to the list of what can possibly break down.
Give me a 25/30 year old $2000 basic machine anyday. And then once you start adding political correctness into the frey, phk off !
What ? KTM are bust gone finito they are not gaining market share ??????????????????????????
You're making a mountain out of a molehill, 4% drops and 6% drops year-on-year for individual models is to be expected. Plus you don't cite any source. This is fake news, basically. For clicks. You need to do better.
You have NO idea.
Euro 4 and 5 nonsense.
Make no frills bikes
Greed!!!
Young people want light electric motorbikes. Like the Surron. The big manufacturers are still making motorbikes with old technology for a declining population.
Not precisely true.
The Sur Ron is a whole diff category of bike.
It's a lightweight EV Motocross bike, period - for short spurts off road.
EV bikes are a disaster for long distance / touring / unknown locations.
IE if you don't have outlet or time to wait for charging, oops !
@@psalm2forliberty577 I would not say a disaster. I have an eletric motorcycle myself. For anything lower than 400km per day it is way better than any fuel bike. An electric motor is fundamentally better than a combustion engine. But you are right that rides above 400km a day require indeed more planning. But let's face it: how many riders do these kinds of rides very regularly.
@mmistermusic
I think at 240 miles / 400km you're either a very special case, go really slow or are exaggerating.
What speed are you riding at ?
The longest range at USA Highway speeds 70 - 80 mph I've ever heard of is 90 miles
Then requires a 2-4 hour charge lol.
That's worse than a bad joke.
Back to what I said:
EV Motorcycles are NOT going to succeed in the USA generally - only in tiny urban enclaves.
We're not running out of Oil Reserves & there is no "Climate Crisis".
BUT if you can hang within their limitations & can afford to pay far more to have them, go for it.
@@psalm2forliberty577 I meant 400km a day. Not in one go. You do 200km, take a short break to charge. Ride another 100km. Take another short break to charge. In my experience doing 400km is easy to plan. I agree it depends on the region. In europe it is easy to plan a 400km trip. There are AC charger everywhere.
About cost: For me, and electric motorcycle is cheaper. I have free solar electricity and pay less tax. For me it is the cheaper option, not the more expensive one.
why would i buy an electric motorcycle when my e bicycle gets me round the inner-city faster? [checkout the latest Micheal Michael movie 'the killer'] with no number plate so no fines, 25p for a full charge equals a penny a mile and i can use dedicated cycle lanes, if you count e bicycles as motorcycles then the number taking up motorcycling is going up, 6 motorcycles in the garage when i want a ride to the coast