As a history teacher who plays Paradox games, I'm so glad I found your channel this week! You're awesome. Thanks for advancing history education in a fun way
As soon as a french speaking people industrializes, you can actually hear "L'Internationale" in the background. Slowly but firmly getting louder. Love it.
Madagascar is also good, one of the hardest starts. No tech and no money. Positive no one is invading you through the gameplay. Start building a port, Increase diplomacy with Dutch or even better Brits and focus on trade. Focus on Intelligentsia or however they are called. After, the sky is the limit with trade and tech. After 8-10 times starting over in few years I got around 4mil ppl and around 6mil gold in reserves!
I wish I had thought of joining a different market as Belgium. I just waited until I was more powerful that Spain and made them join my market. No idea what I was doing but hey we are #1 in the world so hey that's a win :)
This does work pretty damn well but the British republic excommunicated me, I became the top power because of being set free but still go into default in the year 1911. It’s a reverse brexit
The downside of joining the British market appears to be its dependence on using A LOT of convoys requiring equally large amounts of hardwood to construct. So if the market starts to lack wood, the whole thing collapses due to reduced market access.
In my fist vicy 3 game I've been playing Belgium it's 1890 and I have the world's highest GDP of 500 million as long as you can snap up the raw resource production you can be the powerhouse of the world
fun fact about Belgian superiority so we start of in the medieval times where the duchy of Flanders is one of the biggest trading states in the world with its insane production of cloth then we get to the 80 years war where the Spanish siege down Antwerp and the city is under siege by the Spanish in about 12 years 40% of the city leaves for more northern cities like Rotterdam(this is how Rotterdam got rich) then nothing interesting happens for several hundred years and boom Belgium is independent the dutch king tried to exclude all votes of people who where catholic in an election for one thing or another so we said fuck that war is fought many lands are gained like dutch limburg and the modern day country of Luxembourg but Belgium has to give those back in return for the Netherlands giving up their claim to the nation then we get some rich English guys who are like 'hey this is a nice place with coal and iron' and boom just like that the industrial revolution came to the newly independent Belgium after which it became one of the biggest economies in the world up until 1914 at which point Belgium produced 75% of all cars had a big colonial empire and had invested in other countries like the English did to it way back one of these countries being Russia where Belgium invested 550 million gold franks (the total investment was 800 million franks but this was also with France, great Britain, Germany and Switzerland involved) so Belgium brought the industrial era to these previous wild lands and modern day disputed territories until the soviets came along kicked all the Belgians out (this made it so that Belgium only recognized the soviet union as a state in 1923) while the main land of Belgium was getting rapped, bombed and shelled by the Germans that was about it for Belgian dominance on the continent and in the world until ww2 when Belgium got the chance to contribute to the Manhattan by sending over thousands of tons of uranium from the Congo but after that that Belgium has been in internal conflict and turning more and more into a rump state as the industry that once made it big is leaving the country to go to cheaper places a sad fate
Love seeing how min maxing an economy just causes your balance to have a heart attack (In the right direction)! I bet a lot of investors around before 1851 followed suit heart wise.
1:22 they didn't break free due to the Napoleonic sheit happening, they broke away due to dissatisfaction with the Dutch royalty. Though it has been mended it's impact is still here today. Also Napoleon was involved in it due to the Dutch invading Belgium after their declaration of independence, hence it may have confused you. So it was Napoleon that managed to make it permanent till WW2 and afterwards, but he wasn't the cause of it.
good video, i suggest you make save games every 5 years ish due to you being in the british market. i had a game as australia where i built my entire economy around the british market like you did and then britain had a civil war which then caused my economy to plummet from like #10th to #20th worldwide. i then had no save game to revert back to and even after a few years of playing my economy still was struggling
was messing around with Belgium following loosely what you did with textile, started ww1 with Netherlands in 1846, uk ,France ,and me vs Prussia, Luxemburg, Netherlands, and Austria, we trounced them over a heavy war defending Flanders, send peace deal and confirmed me taking over Netherlands and Luxemburg, forget to add wargoals to peace deal and white peace, 40k dead and a hour wasted for nothing.
You also must realize, debt isn't a void factor like EU4, instead, the interest of the debt you gain is paid back to your own pops, as it is your pops that you borrow from.
Note that Mechanizing your production is a double edged sword, you aren’t employing nearly as many people so you need to expand your rural buildings to ensure those people have livelihoods
I played as Belgium, became a British protectorate, got 500M GDP, biggest in the world. Decided to break free, wins the war easily, loses 100M in GDP and falls into a debt spiral. 10/10 fun game
Belgium was superior because the Dutch Invested heavily in industrialization in those regions only to lose it when Belgium revolted. So it’s not really an insult to the Dutch to say Belgium was better off. It’s more of an unfortunate circumstance.
I disagree - I did a lot better in my run-through the Belgium, without joining the British market. You can control domestic prices much easier through trade routes/constructing industry.
Belgium was already more industrialised than the Dutch. I am sure there is a reason but the Austrians somehow fostered a conducive environment. Edit: There are a lot of Catholics in the Netherlands, the country had a bifurcated educational, entertainment and social life until the '60s. So technically, this is just reorganisation.
i havent played other paradox games so im a fresh person who first noticed the diplomacy system and prettty ui, which made me interested. I got in love with this game, and pretty UI is part of that. EU4 and alike are just too old school for me to digest those graphics, just like millenia. i think this UI chosen will attract a lot of new non-paradox players.@@pramitpratimdas8198
Start of the game, set taxes to max, setup some consumption taxes (no grain) lower gov and military spending and maybe setup some wood and tool trade if you're country doesn't produce any. After building is done lower taxes This can be done as any nation (obviously dont overdo the construction sectors at the beginning)
This game does hint that the Belgium playthrough is more interesting than the Dutch one in this era. Even the United Netherlands formable nation flag is based on the flag of the Austrian Netherlands with the colours of the Vatican. Victoria 3 is probably the least favourite installment of Paradox Games according to Dutch gamers lol. But I agree, Belgium was interesting during the industrial era.
Stak what do you honestly think about the game I like how Vicky 2 was but i have heard the only difference between nations is starting point would you wholeheartedly recommend this game
Dont underestimate what that means. The mechanics are so intermingled with every aspect of gameplay that a different starting situation is enough to make a completely different game. There isnt any flavor modifiers like they did in their past games though.
Finally a TH-camr other than Bittersteel doing a game as Belgium in a strategy game, thank you
I want to do so many more
@@historyofeverythingpodcast what about an episode as Sweden in Vicky 3 soon?😁
ISP?
@@lia4667 I don't know him
@@thatguywith3nationalities IsorrowP?
You are finally making vids about Belgium, I as a Belgian thank you! I thought our country was too boring
As a Dutch man i do not
Belgium still better tho
@@uiashduhsauduasdsuh belgium do be better
Because every single country is boring. There’s nothing that differentiates one from another.
It can be really spicy
Nice seeing you expand and not limiting yourself with HOI4 keep it up
Thank you I want to be able to play more
As a history teacher who plays Paradox games, I'm so glad I found your channel this week! You're awesome. Thanks for advancing history education in a fun way
Bring Fries to the world! Would love to see full Belgium Vicky 3 campaign
yeah I agree with you I would watch that
25:26 *the Dutch wont let that sink in*
I am letting you know that I NEED a part two on this. It’s amazing
As someone who is trying to learn more about the game as Belgium, please do a part 2
I used Belgium to learn the game, they’re in such a good spot for their economy to explode at the start and a great nation to learn the game as
I would love to see a multipart series around Belgium that'd be pretty cool
As a Belgian, I implore you to continue this series.
Definitely wanna see more of this run
0:56 “easy to manage” tell that to our government lol
Which one tho? Cus we have a few too many
As a belgium, this video is cool
As a Belgian i'm pleased to see you do a video playing as us, i'd also love it if you were to cover some of our history.
As soon as a french speaking people industrializes, you can actually hear "L'Internationale" in the background. Slowly but firmly getting louder. Love it.
Stak: I'm going to put all my eggs in this basket.
Game: *shakes basket*
Stak: Don't you dare mess with my only source of income!
xD
I love the little quips he has towards certain counties.
I'd absolutely love to see where this goes
"the moment you are producing wealth you could do anything" yeah that tracks irl
I don't know what's worse, that same 1 musical tune on constant repeat OR THE FACT THAT IT'S STUCK IN MY HEAD NOW
Madagascar is also good, one of the hardest starts. No tech and no money. Positive no one is invading you through the gameplay. Start building a port, Increase diplomacy with Dutch or even better Brits and focus on trade. Focus on Intelligentsia or however they are called. After, the sky is the limit with trade and tech. After 8-10 times starting over in few years I got around 4mil ppl and around 6mil gold in reserves!
Yo Great video ay really like you Videos stakuyi you hew my support from serbia dawg👍👍
Absolutely need to see a part 2!
As a belgian myself i would love to see a part 2
I wish I had thought of joining a different market as Belgium. I just waited until I was more powerful that Spain and made them join my market. No idea what I was doing but hey we are #1 in the world so hey that's a win :)
italian soldiers POV:
When Belgium wants to conquer Luxembourg, so you, an Italian, now have to fight Russians and Chinese in the Netherlands
Thank you for making this. The learning curve is so high, but I am loving it!
This does work pretty damn well but the British republic excommunicated me, I became the top power because of being set free but still go into default in the year 1911. It’s a reverse brexit
omg a video about belgium. yes finally i feel happy
Great video! lol, had to laugh at the volcano in Flanders.
The downside of joining the British market appears to be its dependence on using A LOT of convoys requiring equally large amounts of hardwood to construct. So if the market starts to lack wood, the whole thing collapses due to reduced market access.
When someone says “I can make Belgium filthy rich” and doesn’t choose the way they did it lol
We definitely need a part 2 my guy! I accidently burned down Belgium in my first ever game because I didn't know what I was doing
The alt-history Belgium the Kaiser wouldn't mess with.
We need a Belgium spanning the world!
ANOTHER STAKUYI VIC3 VIDEO, TODAY IS GREAT!
The world must burn to fuel the stoves for Belgian waffles
In my fist vicy 3 game I've been playing Belgium it's 1890 and I have the world's highest GDP of 500 million as long as you can snap up the raw resource production you can be the powerhouse of the world
Prussia sure consolidated slowly... I fully formed Germany on my first play through in late 1850s
The gold is it the details, and in the quotes...
That would be an incredible series
Need a full playthrough man, Belgium must take over!!
Continue please, I wanna see a Belgium world conquest lol.
The irony of Brussels being in the British customs union is palpable…
Love your work man hope you make more vids
Thank you much appreciatef
game looks interesting i want to see more
would love to see you do britain as well as a part 2 where Belgium conqures europe
Would love another part, this video was great!
fun fact about Belgian superiority
so we start of in the medieval times
where the duchy of Flanders is one of the biggest trading states in the world with its insane production of cloth
then we get to the 80 years war where the Spanish siege down Antwerp and the city is under siege by the Spanish in about 12 years 40% of the city leaves for more northern cities like Rotterdam(this is how Rotterdam got rich)
then nothing interesting happens for several hundred years
and boom Belgium is independent the dutch king tried to exclude all votes of people who where catholic in an election for one thing or another so we said fuck that
war is fought many lands are gained like dutch limburg and the modern day country of Luxembourg but Belgium has to give those back in return for the Netherlands giving up their claim to the nation
then we get some rich English guys who are like 'hey this is a nice place with coal and iron' and boom just like that the industrial revolution came to the newly independent Belgium after which it became one of the biggest economies in the world up until 1914 at which point Belgium produced 75% of all cars had a big colonial empire and had invested in other countries like the English did to it way back one of these countries being Russia where Belgium invested 550 million gold franks (the total investment was 800 million franks but this was also with France, great Britain, Germany and Switzerland involved) so Belgium brought the industrial era to these previous wild lands and modern day disputed territories until the soviets came along kicked all the Belgians out (this made it so that Belgium only recognized the soviet union as a state in 1923) while the main land of Belgium was getting rapped, bombed and shelled by the Germans
that was about it for Belgian dominance on the continent and in the world
until ww2 when Belgium got the chance to contribute to the Manhattan by sending over thousands of tons of uranium from the Congo
but after that that Belgium has been in internal conflict and turning more and more into a rump state as the industry that once made it big is leaving the country to go to cheaper places
a sad fate
Love seeing how min maxing an economy just causes your balance to have a heart attack (In the right direction)!
I bet a lot of investors around before 1851 followed suit heart wise.
keep going with this series so fun to watch
1:22 they didn't break free due to the Napoleonic sheit happening, they broke away due to dissatisfaction with the Dutch royalty. Though it has been mended it's impact is still here today. Also Napoleon was involved in it due to the Dutch invading Belgium after their declaration of independence, hence it may have confused you. So it was Napoleon that managed to make it permanent till WW2 and afterwards, but he wasn't the cause of it.
23:00 that was the literal reaction of all european union nations when poland joined EU and all the plumbers and builders migrated to EU countries
I would love to see a part 2 !
Yes PART 2 BELGIUM CONQUERS EUROPE PLS
good video, i suggest you make save games every 5 years ish due to you being in the british market. i had a game as australia where i built my entire economy around the british market like you did and then britain had a civil war which then caused my economy to plummet from like #10th to #20th worldwide. i then had no save game to revert back to and even after a few years of playing my economy still was struggling
I want to see you struggle with Greece. It would be very fun
was messing around with Belgium following loosely what you did with textile, started ww1 with Netherlands in 1846, uk ,France ,and me vs Prussia, Luxemburg, Netherlands, and Austria, we trounced them over a heavy war defending Flanders, send peace deal and confirmed me taking over Netherlands and Luxemburg, forget to add wargoals to peace deal and white peace, 40k dead and a hour wasted for nothing.
not for nothing. wasnt it fun experience?
I must see more angry Belgium
You also must realize, debt isn't a void factor like EU4, instead, the interest of the debt you gain is paid back to your own pops, as it is your pops that you borrow from.
Note that Mechanizing your production is a double edged sword, you aren’t employing nearly as many people so you need to expand your rural buildings to ensure those people have livelihoods
Odd that Belgium was having trouble in Africa. I'd heard that they were pretty... handy at that kind of thing. o7
I need more of this. Belgium needs to conquer Europe
Yes, unleash the fury of the Belgian empire!
That GB map hurts my sould as an Irishman
Where are my hands Leopold . . . ?
I played as Belgium, became a British protectorate, got 500M GDP, biggest in the world. Decided to break free, wins the war easily, loses 100M in GDP and falls into a debt spiral.
10/10 fun game
The Belgian stole the spice trade
You look like you are having fun so keep doing what you like man
Are you up for doing a Japan save down the line? I learned quickly it's one of the toughest saves in this game by far.
Dismantling the British empire and liberating Wales, Scotland, and Ireland sounds based, let's do it
We need to see belgium take over the world!!!
Belgium was superior because the Dutch Invested heavily in industrialization in those regions only to lose it when Belgium revolted. So it’s not really an insult to the Dutch to say Belgium was better off. It’s more of an unfortunate circumstance.
I’m loving you doing this game on top of hoi4
REPPIN MY NATION yo. this goes hard
Hmm yes lore of Vic 3 momentum 100
this is likely going to become my new favorite paradox game, it’s so cool
One of the best thing is to get in to the British market in the game
I disagree - I did a lot better in my run-through the Belgium, without joining the British market. You can control domestic prices much easier through trade routes/constructing industry.
So he turned Belgium into... WW2 Germany....
Belgium was already more industrialised than the Dutch. I am sure there is a reason but the Austrians somehow fostered a conducive environment. Edit: There are a lot of Catholics in the Netherlands, the country had a bifurcated educational, entertainment and social life until the '60s. So technically, this is just reorganisation.
13:10 Netherlands part of the Russian market
I want to watch Belgium start the world
War. Which I assume is how your game is going to go.
We are being a spicy waffle
Victoria 3 feels more like a reskinned Crusader Kings 3 rather than Victoria 2.
Felt the same way when I played v2. The ui was too similar to ck2
i havent played other paradox games so im a fresh person who first noticed the diplomacy system and prettty ui, which made me interested. I got in love with this game, and pretty UI is part of that. EU4 and alike are just too old school for me to digest those graphics, just like millenia. i think this UI chosen will attract a lot of new non-paradox players.@@pramitpratimdas8198
Yeah keep going i can’t tell you how much i go crazy when you dont finsh completely
Yes please, part 2.
I found the east india company really easy to start with
as a Belgian, I support Stak's statement on Belgium compared to the Netherlands
Part 2 is necessary
The one thing that keeps tripping me up is when to build construction sector and not tanking the economy
Start of the game, set taxes to max, setup some consumption taxes (no grain) lower gov and military spending and maybe setup some wood and tool trade if you're country doesn't produce any. After building is done lower taxes
This can be done as any nation (obviously dont overdo the construction sectors at the beginning)
Finally please give us a 2nd episode
Hello Stakuyi, could you after check out Victoria 3 or in Victoria 3 play as Spain, and make a big Empire, thank you Stakuyi love your videos
That’s one that I would like to
We need a part two
wow you finally fixed the green screen 😅
Yup about time
This game does hint that the Belgium playthrough is more interesting than the Dutch one in this era. Even the United Netherlands formable nation flag is based on the flag of the Austrian Netherlands with the colours of the Vatican. Victoria 3 is probably the least favourite installment of Paradox Games according to Dutch gamers lol. But I agree, Belgium was interesting during the industrial era.
As a Dutch: “ree” that’ll be all
You should conquer the Netherlands as Belgium then take Greenland and Iceland
Stak what do you honestly think about the game I like how Vicky 2 was but i have heard the only difference between nations is starting point would you wholeheartedly recommend this game
Dont underestimate what that means. The mechanics are so intermingled with every aspect of gameplay that a different starting situation is enough to make a completely different game.
There isnt any flavor modifiers like they did in their past games though.
@@Wasthere73 Thats what i meant and its really easy to become a great power in this game aswell
i would wait to see how the game progresses as annoying as it is it is probably the smart way to spend your money.
Just thinking through the inaccuracies in the game and deciding, fuck it. It's a game, doesnt matter that the economy doesn't make much sense irl.
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