Chain Hacks: Using Chain to Brace and Straighten a Building
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- I have been asked to create a video showing how to brace a building with chains, as well as how we use them for straightening the structure before we install our metal skin. To me this has to be the best chain hack for a guy in the trades! This job will be coming to youtube as soon as I get the time to edit it, so make sure you hit that subscribe button and turn on notifications. You won't want to miss it!.
I have used chains since the start, and taught that chains are always your best bet . I have used this set of chains for over 6 years now. you buy once, cry once. It was an investment, probably $1000 at the time... maybe more or less, but I don't worry about one breaking and we very easily secure our structures, as well as use our chain to straighten our buildings.
If looking for chain like I use, all my chains are 50' long and mostly 1/4". Laclede Chain specifically said they didn't want or need me to say anything about them, rather use their chain and keep educating people on building and how chain can be utilized. I am still going to help them out. Tim the owner is a good guy and they are American Made. Their product can be bought on line at www.tulsachain.com
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I am sure I didn't cover everything about chains...feel free to drop a comment I will keep my eye out for them!
Where did you get that size chain bucket? Love the chain Container but haven't found one that size ? Thanks Kyle !
They are old jugs off the farm. A corn based hydraulic lubricant came in them so they are a fairly clean bucket to start with
what kind of belt is that? looks different that DB. Also why ditch the hammer holster?
Just out of curiosity I've seen people use come-alongs all the time because they have very precise movements have you ever tried that in his chain a better option love your videos Man they've been super helpful I'm hoping to build a pole frame house in the near future
What work boots do you wear
For me, the ideas in th-cam.com/users/postUgkxy_pn55PK60wAV3X_C_RoLS_67mNonoCE Plans were a starting point for building different sheds . Ryan gives ideas that allow an individual to draw nicest conclusions into the design and building of his or her own shed.
Awesome as usual.
Thanks Greg, very good👍 for the video."..
Yes get ratchet binders bro great job anyway love ya work peace ✌🏾 from Queensland Australia
Thank Kyle. Great vid
nice job like always
thanks for share Kyle
very nice info
Really cool video kyle!
Good job camera guy. Should get a pay raise.
Brilliant
Thanks Kyle
great video
Thanks for tips! Great Job!
Very interesting,
I'm getting ready to have a 50'x60' shop built in southwest VA. After watching the detail and quality you dedicate to each project, they're gonna hate me.
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Verdad.
@@rualert1602 siiiii
Cracking stuff
Seeing as I am only doing one build and it will only be with 8 foot walls and 4/12 pitch roof. We don't have 100s of feet of chains to secure the structure and will do so with lumber bracing. SO.. any tips on most critical locations and temp layouts that won't make necessary work in area inhibitive. Thx! I am learning a ton from your helpful videos and am excited to get started....FINALLY...this spring.
I like it man! Thanks for the helpful tips
I use 2 binders in pairs to tighten the chains, one pulled in and other one to ratchet.
Yes that works great too
To get the in between with those chain binder, tighten up or spoken up a link on the connection going around the beam that it’s hooked to
The OutDoorsMen this comment was added a lot. My only worry is that the chain would be more able to turn around the post that way. For some of the chain installs that could be a big failure
I used to work for Laclede steel our department the rod mill made the rod for Laclede rope and chian.
That’s awesome!!
MASTER OF CHAIN
Thanks for the video. I love your method.
I like your technique. I am glad we live in the area (n IL). You are on my short list of builders for when I put my next pole building!
Thanks john where you at
getting ready to do 32x48x14 myself you are great ,a big help
Awesome glad to hear it
Hell yeah dinner will have to wait.
Why not use ratchet binders?
You do masterful work. How did you learn your trade?
Mostly learned by doing... had a few people come in and out of my life to steer me. Have to remember it’s been 13 years in the making so far. Lots of time to mess up and learn from those mistakes
What size chain should be used for this?
So Kyle for this bild, how many chains did you use to lock the entire bilding ?
Is it possible to add larger windows in this type of building? Say 4'X8', have seen you install smaller ones.
Kyle, my son just dropped off 450' of brand new hardened 3/8" chain he got for free this morning from an industrial supply house that is closing it's west coast branch. I heard you say 50' seems to be about the right length. Do you keep any that are longer? Good to bounce off you before I start cutting.
If you need some fine adjustment you calm move the chain that loops and it’s like moving “1/2 a chain link”
now i understand the chain thing thanks. ya know if you keep this level of edjamication for your subscribers i may be able to put up a pretty good diy pb myself. if you have time to answer ??? i have one for you. for us poor slobs that dont have lifts and skid steers etc. any idea what could be used for a chain anchor and how much it should weight. don't know if it matters but i plan to do a 60x32x12 pb.
Drill a hole and pour it with ready mix... then throw a look of rebar into it
¡Awesome explanation!
what brand pants/work boots?
What do you think about that new right side Mule tool pouch compared to the Wrangler pouch?
Only thing I miss is the extra pockets but it’s been good
Switching to winter mode this week... what brand pants are those? Haha
Do you sell merch so I can support the channel
Ever consider selling kits for the diyer? Maybe a dozen different sizes for 2-3 car garages/workshops?
You've watched these videos, and your thought is "DIY"?
lordaleksandre some of us watching are capable. If your not, sit back and watch.
I'd like to know how you maneuver those huge blocks around.
Skid loader or telehandler
Hey man, like your work. wondering if I see your sign on the side of the road almost daily. Not sure how to pm, doesn't seem to be an option anymore. Don't want to blow up your spot either so... maybe you know how to pm...get at me.
My email is kstumpenhorst@gmail.com
just a FYI, you can adjust by 1/2 link by moving the hook
1 link @ the loop around the post or anchor point
I was going to comment the same thing. Because the chain is 2 parted around the post you can move the hook 1 link and it's the equivalent of moving it a 1/2 of a link. I use this trick every day moving equipment
I see the outside foundation is insulated. Is this gonna have a heated floor too ?
Yes
Where do you get those green chains? Also, can you get them in grade 70 or higher in 5/16 or 3/8?
Laclede chain and they are g100
We use cables and come alongs on ours
me being a hiker i know how the ground can wear out shoes, but you guys walking in the gravel I would imagine you go through quite few pairs of shoes, what are your shoe/boot of choice?
Currently rocking keen San Jose... good boot
Kyle, Love the video series. Cant say enough good things about you and what you do to help promote true craftsmanship but something in this video disappointed me... You have a brand new chain, perfect coating, high viz green, and you put ole rusty the chain binder on it.... I would have though for someone who always strives for perfection you would have caught this.
Only bugging ya, I cant wait to build my new farm shop and use all the tricks you're teaching! I love the fact that you're all about investing in yourself and investing in the proper tools to get the job done right and done efficiently.
Lol Garret people don’t miss anything do they
Dude ur a stud!U inspire me U got things figured out! Im an aspiring business owner.. Just bit the bullet n quit my day job and jumped in feet first. I like the jug idea with the chains. I keep mine in a army can but those jugs seem so much moe usable. Are they just 5qt oil jugs? Hard to tell size in video
2 gallon jugs I believe
Can you use chains on a residential build (houses)?
I think it would be impractical, this is a pretty big building, it may make it hard for you to maneuver around while building the house, and you would have to buy a bunch of chains, when you can just use some crap twisted lumber that you cant use for building.
Go to a truck-stop and ask a trucker how they use binders. They use a tool that makes that a lot safer and they are cheep. If the cost of ratchet binders was not so expensive that would be the way to go.
So where can I get the giant concrete block?
Most ready mix plants
I was watching a guy chaining a tractor to a trailer and if one link is too much, dont move the binder, move the anchor point hook. Because it goes around the post it would be equal to half as much of moving the binder.
Yes totally agree
What grade of chain? It's not passing link. :-)
I can hear that screaming eagle cordless framing gun lol
when is this building going to be featured i want to see how you tie the two together
After work shop
Hi Kyle enjoy your channel and toolsday not much for commenting but I run a fleet of heavy haul trucks and we have to use the threaded binders to be dot legal didn’t like them at first but now wouldn’t use anything else infinitely adjustable might work great for you???
Dan Anderson wonder if the loads are high enough to use threaded.
Can you demonstrate “pushing a chain”? Curious to see how that works lol
I was wondering about that also, then I remembered the CVT transmissions with pusher chains. No way he is using that design tho, he just misspoke I guess.
Like working with some guys I know. Can’t push a rope
I think push is actually pull in the opposite direction - that’s what I gathered from the one the guy needed to go the other direction.
My son plays farm simulator on the computer all the time, i don't see RR sign on the buildings storing all his tractors. could be another avenue for ya. Keep on building
Haha that would be awesome
@@RRBuildings relatively easy to do, just need the logo and some building info and I could build one up and put it in the game
Enjoy all your videos. Helpful hints and ideas
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More chains than a bondage parlour 😂👍🏻🇬🇧
What size chain do you recommend?
he uses 1/4" Laclede g100 in 50' lengths
Track saw or circular saw and guide?
If you have the money and do enough precise sheet goods cutting a track saw will pay for itself
@@loganpatterson4674 agree love track saws
Very educational !
I like the high viz chain, way better chance of not getting Clothes-lined !!
Since the chain has barely any tension on it, could a smaller diameter be used ?
How many miles of chain do you think you have ? lol
Where's the singing from Greg, we miss it ?
Sorry for all the questions. Thumbs up !
no singing this time i guess
Retired carpenter I really like the chain idea wish I had thought of that 40 years ago
How many chains do you use on the building, this one for instance? 20?
Yeah I’d say about
That’s my next investment!
Such a simple, elegant, and reusable solution. The best kind of engineering. Thanks for sharing!
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I notice that you’re wearing a different belt with your diamond back bags. What is it called, how do you like it and would your recommend it?
Build pro belt and I’m trying it because it’s recommended for back support and backed by the Australian chiropractic association. So far it’s been good
What kind of belt is he wearing? not the bags but the actual belt @Kyle
It’s a build pro
@@RRBuildings I didnt much care for my DB belt, do you think i'd like that one better? seems comfy
Make sure no ones under you when drop jug🤕
Tip: Get a load of ratchet binders and sell your lever binders. It'll be better than wedging boards under the chains.
When you are straightening the ends of the trusses are they bolted to the column at that point or just temporarily nailed? Also love your videos great content and great info, your attention to miner details and over all passion to do the best you can at every point in the job is how I wish every contractor would be. Keep up the good work.
Not bolted til roof is done. We want it as perfect as possible before final bracing and connections are in
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Turn buckles with lumber bracing, and come along chains/cables if needed is how I skin this cat. The ratchet really helps, along with x braces.. Also straighten out your fascia board on the side of the building that's most visible first... Another great video by RR 👍
Hello Kyle. Nice video , I like to use 2” ratchet straps they are lightweight and can adjust easily . They are only 30’ long though
I'm afraid of a big wind kicked up the sheer force could snap some nylon straps
I would not recommend using Grade 30 or proof chain, you should use at least Grade 43 and not more than 70 (transport) for this type of use, due to safe work load limits and winds can get strong. You should have mentioned the grade you are using, Kyle.
Grade 60 is most of it and I have some g100
Really?? What a dip everybody got to be so critical. Show us one of your videos. Lol that’s what I thought. Great video thanks Kyle.
@@tyler6865 I am not criticizing, simply am just recommending/suggesting the minimal and maximum grade (the higher the grade the more the chain will weigh) you would want to use based on the fact you are going to crank on it and as he said he is in a wind prone area as one can see themselves. Simply also just suggested he posted what grade he uses in which he replied. Calling me a 'dip' makes who that is one here?
Joshua79C C Kyle obviously knows what he's doing and it shows it in his videos. Everybody who watches knows this and when you come in with critical details like you did makes you looks like a dip #^
I definitely like the chain method over lumber braces
Dude I already told you a ratchet binder will give you better control than a lever binder. Why didn’t you listen to me LOL
But so much slower.
Kyle, can you not use a come along to help square? Shifting a chain in a boomer can be a pain if you loose your place.
Thank you for going into detail on the small parts of the builds.
My dad deals with chains on the farm all the time...love the pro-tip on the chain bucket 👌
That bucket is a huge tip
looks easer then using cables
Very easy I think
The chain gang.lol
Just started using chains on our most recent build after watching it here. Sooo much easier than the wood. Just sucks to walk into Menards and buy them out of chain and binders. Thank Kyle for sharing
At least your buying something that will last a lifetime.
Got a tip for you if you move the chain a full link and that to much use a 1/2 link by moving the chain a full link that is around the post = half link on the chain length.
Love the video. When I first started watching your stuff it was hard for me to follow. The only reason is different terminology, now there's no problem at all. Love the chain storage in the jugs!
George Reiss had the same problem. Greetings from Norway Koos
To make those fine adjustments and instead of investing in ratchet binders, you can simply add some “twist” to the chain. Twisting the chains will shorten them up.
Too bad last year I tossed 14 pairs of ratchet binders, from my old days of truck driving.
Using the plastic jugs as part of your chain 'management' system - a bit brilliant.
Don't know how easy it would be but you can also twist the chains to shorten the length. Might make fine adjustment easier.
Brilliant. Great explanation on why and how you use the chain. I can see so many advantages of using the chain method over using 2X. Thanks for sharing and I would be willing to bet there will be a lot of post frame building contractors copying your idea. Like that HiRes chain. Really like that its made in America, great shout out. Keep the vids coming. Thumbs up to you and your crew.
I wish I could afford to have you guys build me a shop. You are the best!
How do you know we are too expensive
Let me rephrase that. I wish I could afford to have a shop built. I would have you guys build it.
Being so systematic and open if you get into politics you will change the rules of the game in better.
Dying turtle?
no idea....
Greetings from Australis . I must say I love your knowledge and the safety element you bring to you work site.