The 21st Century Black Sox
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AKA: Beating a Long Dead Horse Into the Ground. The Chicago White Sox are an unserious franchise. That word might be a compliment. This video digs into the problems that beset this apathetic and chaotic team. All you have to do is go just below the surface. The problems are more than apparent (i.e. everything).
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They’ve set their sights on 2093. It is tradition for the White Sox to wait 88 years between titles.
If the world still exists then.
@@MartYtraM1983that’s what I’m saying 😂
if the mlb even still exists at that point
if chicago still exists by then
I remember as a Red Soxs fan seeing Yankee fans with a sign in the 2005 season saying "Congrats on ending the curse Boston. Here's to your next tile in 2090"
This team is the FTX of Baseball:
An entity that rose high in a short amount of time and then revealed themselves to be completely fraudulent.
Winning comment. Everyone else go home.
Amen. I had high expectations for the White Sox in 2022 yet they just crashed down.
Sounds more like the Cowboys tbh.
@@cronorosthe cowboys didn't come crashing down. everyone knows they're frauds year in and year out
@@cronorosSure but that’s beating a dead horse, FTX is honestly a great, original analogy
If it werent for Michael Jordan and the World Series run in 05, we'd be talking about Reinsdorf as one of the worst owners in sports history.
*If he hadn't inherited Jordan from the previous owner
Thanks to Jordan, Reinsdorf is a hall of fame owner.
@@alanpeel1981 I would tell Jordan to just buy the Sox and Bulls from Reinsdorf, but then I remember the Charlotte Hornets
He already is
Learning that the White Sox have two (2) members of their analytics staff and their office is basically a broom closet made everything about that team make sense
That sounds about right.
As a Rockies sort of fan that would be a drastic improvement
You didn’t even mention Reinsdorf has the gall to ask for public money for a new stadium in the midst of a historically bad season.
And fumbled a fan-favorite announcer to a division rival because he personally doesn’t like him. The only guy that made the broadcast watchable.
at least you still have Steve Stone. cubs fans still miss him dearly
@@diggsfather Not bringing Benetti back might drive Steve Stone into retirement, given the cringey try-hard dude he now shares the booth with.
Insanity. Pure fucking insanity. Jerry Reinsdorf is 88 years old, worth $2.1 BILLION between the Sox and Chicago Bulls, and right before he dies; wants the taxpayers to fund a new stadium that he may not even be alive to see complete! Put a trough urinal on that tombstone, cause there is going to be a LINE to piss on it.
A stadium that he may not even be ALIVE TO SEE. I don't understand how billionaires can be so close to the end, yet totally unwilling to spend a cent of it to renew SOME goodwill to their legacy as a person. Why is Chicago just FULL of sports owners like "Dollar" Bill Wirtz, Reinsdorf, and Virginia Halas-McCaskey, so agitated at the thought of spending money to make money?
He wants $1 billion in public funding. L-fucking-mao
Ownership absolutely stinks.
Facts
Across the league, honestly.
No lies.
Speaking of stinks, anyone remember The Critic? Now there’s a show that deserves a reboot more than most
It's on par with the Oakland A's ownership.
Baseball in Chicago is so cursed, cubs waited 108 years for their title and the white Sox’s waited 88 years for their title
But they’ve had the 21st century Bulls and Bears to look forward to at least…. Oh wait
Feels like in the past decade almost sports in general in Chicago is super cursed
What the fuck is going on. We're supposed to be a huge market and yet our teams are so shit that they're making worst of all time histories left and right.
@@NoXp3rtthe Blackhawks show at least some hope.
@@NoXp3rt other than the Cubs having a period of highly competitive baseball and a WS win, it's basically been hopeless.
As a White Sox fan, this was long, long, LONG overdue.
I swear on my MOTHERS GRAVE, that when the algorithm suggested a video about the White Sox’s ineptitude, last night; I said…
“I want to see Tree post a video about the Whitesox.”
Then the like a fucking SpongeBob gag card; he releases a video about the Sox, the next fucking day!
Ask and you shall clearly receive!
Thanks for your request
Like a SpongeBob gag card...
*One
Day
Later*
@@michaeltaylor6765 Of course!
I’m glad my ‘wish’ brought joy to many people, and hope my future ones may do the same.
@@chaosgreyblood Precisely.
I always guess based on the most recent trends in Baseball, and I asked and received as well.
It's amazing how teams like the A's, Rockies, Pirates are run like shit yet even somehow they still look like major league baseball teams
Meanwhile the White Sox somehow look like a Tee-ball team & even somehow that still feels too generous of a description
The Pirates were definitely this bad back in the mid aughts. Dave Littlefield has much to answer for.
At least the White Sox have a few World Series championships, most recently the amazing 2005 championship.
As bad as things sometimes feel in Cleveland... there's always a reminder of how much worse it can get.
Imagine the A’s are now being used as the measuring stick to show how ass a team is.
I am Chicago native and have been a diehard White Sox fan my entire life. When I tell you this has been the most depressed and hopeless I have felt for this team I have ever felt, I mean it. Reinsdorf is a cancer and needs to sell the team. Give us someone who actually cares and wants to win.
Let me tell you, I pull for that team cause that fanbase absolutely deserves to see a winner again like 2005.
Last two years have honestly been the worst I've ever seen them get. I don't know what in the world that front office see's in Pedro Grifol?
The stories what Keynan Middleton talked about last year about the "no rules" culture Grifol runs in that clubhouse is just absolutely disgraceful and was shocked they chose to bring him back after 2023.
He just shows absolutely no leadership in how to run a team and Reinsdorf doesn't even care because he doesn't want to admit he made a mistake in this hire.
Maybe we can swap owners: you can have pizza boy Illitch from Detroit and we will take your owner!
As a Cubs fan I've got nothing but sympathy for you guys, the White Sox deserve better
As a fellow Chicago native and diehard Sox fan, I couldn’t have worded it better myself. The problems start with Riensdorf, he needs to go asap. Whoever his replacement is needs to punch in the nuclear codes and blow it all up, I’ll treasure the 2021 season, the playoffs, the Field of Dreams game. But to see such a fall from grace in such a short time hurts.
Hire Joe Girardi as manager
I haven’t started this yet, but the fact that “Berto” of that White Sox Rant was like, “if Chris Getz becomes GM, then you’ll hear from me again in 2038”
And then Chris Getz became GM
Getz gets some blame. Reinsdorf gets most of the blame.
“The Sox are the equivalent of a Mom and Pop shop” No, Mom and Pop shops put actually love and care into their product unlike the White Sox
Some mom and pops don't give a shit. Most do, but some are up their own ass.
@@UrinatingTreeyet those shitty Mom and Pop shops still give more of a shit than the White Sox
As a White Sox fan everything you said was right on the money
Sad but true
This video makes me want a full vid on reinsdorf himself
I once asked him to do one but he said he’d do one specifically on the white Sox rather than the bulls. Maybe one day if the bulls disastrously fall apart lol
That 2005 master team feels like an eternity ago... Which may be because I was 8-9 years old in 2005, but that's neither here nor there. Unserious franchise indeed.
The White Sox are so bad I literally forgot they've won the World Series in my lifetime.
Tree posted this when I'm about to head to the ballpark to see the Dead Sox is a blessing from the sports gods
Maybe the food will be good?
@@davesecx The food is outstanding. So is the beer selection.
Just stay in Milwaukee. They're a real team with a better park (worse food, but not by much) and already have a great rivalry with the Cubs! They choke every year in the playoffs but at least they develop players and stay active in free agency and the trade market in an effort to compete!
At least the Dead Sox won a series against the Deadbirds earlier in the season. Both teams are cringe.
I remember that back in February I interviewed with the White Sox for a ticket sales trainee. I ended up getting rejected. Looking back, I'm glad that I didn't get the job because I definitely would've struggled selling tickets lol
Whoever they hired sure as heck hasn't been getting the job done!
@@MGAF688 Yeah I definitely dodged a bullet lol
They really had something special going in the mid-late 2000s. For as mercurial as Ozzie Guillen was, he did deliver this franchise's best moment. Those mid-late 2000s teams didn't always play up to their potential but they were a fun and chaotic group.
The 2005 ChiSox team is such an underappreciated WS champion. That pitching staff was crazy good that year. They took their foot off of the gas pedal at the beginning of August and it didn't even remotely matter. And then they only lost one postseason game.
I'm a Cubs fan, but Ozzie is HANDS DOWN my favorite White Sox manager. Just such a character. I love it
And that didn’t last
@@brycemcneil4404 I wouldn't quite say that - the Sox were 15 games up after winning on August 1 - 7.5 weeks later Cleveland had whittled this divisional lead down to 1.5 games, with 10 games left. The Cubsessed local sports media was largely drooling over arguably the biggest late-season collapse ever happening.
Then karma hit those douchenozzles, the Sox got hot and didn't look back, finishing the season 8-2, or 19-3 playoffs included.
The White Sox make the A's look competent... And I don't even need to get into details about the A's...
With how the White Sox aren they make the current day As look like those teams that had Reggie Jackson & Catfish Hunter
@@MazeDaGr8
The White Sox look like the MC Hammer A’s
Thank you Tree for sharing how us Sox and Bulls fans feel. Jerry is the root of all of this mess and nothing will change until he’s gone.
At least the White Sox gave the world perhaps one of the most glorious moments of 21st century baseball: MLB At Field of Dreams.
True, but also their 2005 World Series championship was amazing too, after 88 years.
@@RB01.10yup, absolutely dominated that post season too
Let's not forget DeWayne Wise's miracle perfecto-saving catch in 2009.
It's really fucking sad that the biggest moment this franchise has had in recent memory was in a cornfield in the middle of August in a series against the Yankees that they didn't even win..
@@jackhammer2506 They did win that game.
100 losses; you are being generous.
Thats their floor
@@Bu11yMagu1re
I think you meant ceiling
@@warlordofbritannia no 100 losses is the minimum hence the floor. Ceiling would be 110+ losses.
@@Bu11yMagu1re
Oh, I get it 😂
I don't know how the hell this team went 11-8 in the 19 games following their 3-22 start. Damn this team for teasing me with that.
1:43 The only time in baseball history a long title drought was broken and nobody cared.
Fun fact about the 2005 White Sox:
In the ALCS, their starting pitchers threw four complete games in one playoff series vs the Angels.
The only time that’s ever happened in a playoff round before the World Series, and I don’t think it’ll ever happen again.
I’m 85 percent certain the 2005 World Championship White Sox didn’t actually happen, that it’s a massive Mandela effect
Tbh i dont think anyone ever has celebrated a single moment of joy at mobile phone park @warlordofbritannia
And we couldn’t even make it a series (houston) I mean it could’ve gone to 6 or 7 but I wanna say they just got lucky late in games
Another fun fact: The day after the Sox won, the Sun-Times ran an editorial talking about when the Cubs will win the World Series. They’re so silver medal they can’t even be remembered when they get gold
"The White Sox and Bulls are definitely the teams in the MLB and NBA"
*SeatGeek emails about another sponsored video*
Tree: " Time to roast another poor fan base!"
One more element to add: the Sox let play-by-play announcer Jason Bennetti go. Obviously, this doesn't actually affect the quality of the team, but it hurts the fan experience. He was nearly universarlly loved and respected by Sox fans. He was their bright spot. He was well thought enough to also get national gigs. But one person didn't like how he called games: Reinsdorf. ANd just like he hires LaRussa because all that matters is his own opinion, Reinsdorf didn't want an announcer who would miss so many games because he had a national profile. Again, doesn't affect the quality of the team, but sure symbolizes the rotten fan experience with this owner.
I'm right there with you, because my first thought was "there was no mention of Jason Benetti leaving for division rival Detroit? DETROIT?!?"
He wasn't just loved by Sox fans. I'm a Cubs fan and you can insert any non-Sox fan's disdain for Hawk Harrelson here.
But, of course, Reinsdorf has never been one for the "fan experience," case in point being that "cheap seats can't integrate" upper-deck policy at Comiskey. I'm not even going to mention the last 25 years or so of Bulls basketball. That, as has been mentioned multiple times in the comments already, is destined for a "Legacy of Failure" video.
Jason is also a lifelong Sox fan from Homewood, IL, right in the core of the Sox SW suburban fan base 🙄
Coming from a history buff, that john tyler reference is much appreciated, plus the fact he was born in the 1790s and still has a living grandson. Also my cubs might be in a skid but we're not the sox at least
Thank the great pitcher in the sky for small miracles. Our Cubbies might be bad, but we’re not White Sox Bad.
Funny enough up until playing the Sox they were the only team worse from May 1 on than the Sox were
To be fair Crochet looks like to be a future ace, but he will be traded in the next three years.
Berto's call to 1000AM will be evergreen
Do the Bulls next. Same Reinsdorf incompetence
At least with the Bulls, they can justifiably point to injuries.
Injuries that happen *every gorram year* but, hey, best I can do for Pennygrubber Reinsdorf.
@@TumbrelsAndDrumbeats having Lonzo back won’t really change much for the team when they already have their backcourt of the future with Ayo and Coby. They need to trade Zach, Demar, and Vuc
@@TumbrelsAndDrumbeats Injuries have also been a huge part of the problem for the last 5 years of the Sox, an issue this video does not ignore. And up until the late 2010s, the Sox had for the entirety of Rein$dorf's ownership tenure the most out-of-shape possible dude as head athletic trainer, Herm Schneider.
The 4 Sox seasons preceding 2005 also featured enough injury problems to get most head trainers fired, but Rein$dorf values loyalty over competence so Herm stayed. I don't think it's a coincidence that their World Series win came courtesy a roster with an unusually high number of players in their 1st year with the broader organization.
@@BG.994 They don't need to. They can use this as a throwaway year and retool after. Contractually and strategically, it does work out best that way imo
As a die hard White Sox fan I needed to hear this
White Sox fan since day one… this video is the best thing to happen this season. I went to a recent home game and the highlight of the game was seeing an opposing foul ball decimate a $15 beer. It was half of the offense generated that afternoon.
As always, Let’s Go White Sucks!
Fun fact about the 2005 White Sox:
In the ALCS, their starting pitchers threw four complete games in one playoff series vs the Angels.
The only time that’s ever happened in a playoff round before the World Series, and I don’t think it’ll ever happen again.
That’s why they’re so forgettable. Pitching so dominant and a 1 year wonder for the team
That’s why they’re so forgettable. Pitching so dominant and a 1 year wonder for the team
No way haha!
@@MustacheDLuffy They may have not returned to the playoffs the next year, but they still won 90 games in 2006 (in a year the WS champ had only 83 wins), and won the division again in 2008. That's not exactly 1-year wonder-land
I know that from SRS.
The fact that the A’s and White Sox had a playoff series against each other a few years ago is crazy
Comprising Oakland's most recent 3 home playoff games, the fact that no fans were in attendance seems normal - even long before one recalls that it was in 2020.
Being a sox fan who was very young when they last won in 05 and thus has no memories of the good times, only the awful, its about time we got ripped to shreds, this franchise, and especially ownership and front office are completely unserious, being worse than the openly tanking Oakland Atheltics is bad but whats even worse is that despite being located in the 3rd largest American city we still never bother to splurge on top free agents, and even if most in the city are cubs fans, there is a very devoted sect of the population who love the sox and this team, when they are good, can get asses in the seats and thus, money to spend, this team also cant develop prospects, the one time we had a top farm system we called everyone up and immediately went to have an awful farm system, and not to mention the majority of our prospects have been busts. The day Jerry is gone might be a better day for Chicago than when Dollar Bill bit the dust.
4:04 “DOWN GOES ANDERSON! DOWN GOES ANDERSON!”
I was at the game....despite the loss it was DAMN beautiful
For fucks sake no wonder why the White Sox can’t win this year, we benched our goon now who will take the fights for us
@@SpiralSine6 He's gone because his performance went immediately into the toilet when he started having marital problems, and hasn't recovered since.
Probably also worth mentioning Reinsdorf wants a new stadium. He has said they need more parking. They don't need it.
Dude they have so much damn parking you could build another stadium on it
@@UrinatingTree tell the Bears that.
@@route2070 They’ll still demand billions for it; as if, they’re still not in debt for the abominable 2003 renovation of Soldier Field…
@@UrinatingTree And it wasn't even full during 2005 World Series games 1 or 2.
The parking footprint has remained roughly the same since the 1990s when the stadium had a 44.3K capacity; after a brief increase to 47K coinciding with the 2003 All-Star game (lower level seating was permanently expanded), it's been 40.6K since 2004 when they chopped off the much maligned top portion of the upper deck that seemingly reached to the stratosphere.
@@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734 ....even though the State of Illinois already owns all that property, so they could get it for little if not free!
I thought getting rid of Tony La Russa was gonna help them. Nope. They got worse somehow.
Daily reminder that this is owned by the same dude who runs the Bulls. Yeah.
Reinsdorf was/is an MJ merchant.
Of course they’d be even worse if LaRussa was still hanging around. Imagine that.
Rein$dorf is the one dude that proves that an owner can win 7 championships to his name in spite of himself. See also: why Jerry Jones has 3 championships as an owner.
@@wheeliebeast7679 And yet Bulls fans boo Jerry Krause's widow and not Reinsdorf. Even though it's pretty obvious that Reinsdorf was holding the purse strings and Krause got the tag of "bad guy" thanks to The Last Dance.
Fans are the worst. Sometimes.
Jordan was right about him after all.
I fondly remember the 05 World Series mostly because I lived in South Florida and we were in the aftermath of Hurricane Wilma. Getting an *actual* baseball game on a portable battery-operated TV instead of endless local news was a godsend
The Tommy Pham incident against the brewers has to be the funniest sad baseball moment I’ve seen in a minute
As a former WhiteSox season ticket holder, I’ve waited over a year for this video. I was starting to wonder if Tree would just wait until the WhiteSox break the 1962 Mets’ modern record for most losses in a season of 120. At 15-43 & on a 9 game losing streak, it’s definitely in play.
They have the 5th toughest schedule in the league. At some point they will win against weaker teams. It’s hard to break the 1962 Mets.
@@aidenawe9359 Which is funny, because I’ve been told for years now how easy and winnable the AL Central is.
This team made the playoffs with like 90+ wins not even 4 years ago btw
a tree video on the white sox? god i needed this
As a long time subscriber and a suffering White Sox fan, thanks for the video, Tree! This is a long awaited video. Watching the White Sox is a masochist's dream. Channeling my inner masochism, I watched them last week against the Orioles. Initially, the Sox were up 3-0 (yes, they were leading). My question is not even if, it is when they are going to blow the lead. Then, glass cannon Michael Blow-pe... I mean Kopech allowed the game winning run. After the game and dinner in Chinatown (Chinatown is close to Guaranteed Rate Field), I manage to find Orioles fans, and tell them, "Do you know the Orioles MVP is? Michael Kopech!" Sadly, that is the most fun thing I did for that day. Now, we will see if Jerry Reinsdorf can even one down against the John Fisher and move the team somewhere as a big middle finger to Sox fans.
This was my grandpa's team and it always hurts seeing them suck so bad. Glad he got 2005
I married into both my White Sox and Bears fandom, and I can say with almost absolute certainty that the McCasky family thanks god in their prayers every night for Reinsdorf making them look like goddamn geniuses by comparison
*Mccrapskey
Reinsdorf has made the late Dollar Bill Wirtz look like Mark Cuban...you know how impossible that is?
Was wondering why you didn't make a video on the White Sox last year, but seeing the state their in now, I think it makes sense.
you are everywhere
When two of my favorite sports teams are the White Sox and Commanders it's a wonder why I still continue to watch sports
how in the hell did that happen? honestly the bears aren’t much better than the commanders so we’re in the same boat here
As a fellow self hating Washington fan I feel you. I’d say I have the dodgers but they just fill in the one area Washington can’t: playoff futility
3 of the 5 teams in Chicago are run through senility and inbreeding. Makes one sad to think forced euthanasia is a possibility to saving the Bears, White Sox and Bulls and yet, here we are.
It is worth noting they did once spend the most money ever on a player back in 1996: Albert Belle. Ah, those were the days... well, not really. He was cancer in the locker room, but I'll give him this: The man produced on the field.
The Reinsdorf and McCaskey teams
Leaves the Cubs and then the Blackhawks. The cubs used to be just as bad as the white Sox in the front office as recently as 2011
The Cubs and Hawks might not be winning teams right now but at least they're trying unlike the Bulls, Bears, and Sox
If it wasn't for the Cubs winning it all in 2016, and the Sox in '05, would Chicago sports really have any homework to turn in for this century? Bears had one run in 2006 and failed at that, while also doinking away 2017, Bulls have been mid since Jordan retired, and the Blackhawks, well, their leaders are corrupt.
@@AaronAlexanderOfficial I think the Bears are trying. Or at least Poles is. His moves are a bit all over the place, but he's trying to build an infrastructure.
@@proa007 yeah... A little.
I think that number one overall is Ryan Leaf and Antonio Brown's lovechild
i grew up a white sox fan all of my life, born and bred. i’m 21 years old now and have been a diehard fan since i was 11. no more. they don’t care anymore, jerry doesn’t care, grifol doesn’t care, nobody cares. jerry reinsdorf has genuinely killed my love for the game of baseball.
i won’t scream, i won’t yell, i’m just gonna quietly pack up and move my fandom north side.
Switching to a cubs fan?
I too become a Brewers fan when the Sox get me too depressed
@@hlmfromdao Us Sox fans would largely self-immolate before doing that, and I don't mean that 100% jokingly. Such behavior is highly unusual.
This is true. Which just goes to show how truly bad this situation is, and how there is no light at the end of the tunnel.
I'll probably remain a fan myself but honestly, I don't care anymore. If they stay, or move, or win, or lose, or whatever, fine with me. And if this makes me a non-fan (as one fo ol told me some time ago on another video), okay, I'm a non-fan. I couldn't care less about his opinion of me.
I guess... go Sox(?)
Their ownership is shit
It rivals that of the Pirates
Lol. Attempt to trigger the attention of UT himself: Failure
Wish we could fire the owners. Where I live, we are being held hostage by Bill DeS**tt and his ilk.
They literally just gave up 23 hits tonight. Should have been 20+ runs if my Brew Crew didn’t leave 14 runners on base
Also almost 45 year anniversary of the MLB's most notable hooliganism event: Disco Demolition Night!
Either that or 10 Cent Beer Night in Cleveland
@@leifopstad2972 LOL that turns 50 today!
I love the Impractical Jokers reference. This team is the biggest dumpster fire in North American Sports right now.
As a tigers fan I can’t tell how much better the AL Central is as a whole because each team gets 20 free wins vs the white sox
Here I thought the Royals were the worst team in the AL Central.
I can't think of a single organizational quality the White Sox are decent at. They suck at scouting, player development, minor league instruction, asset management, team cohesion.... And their solution was to look at the post-championship Royals under Dayton Moore and say "yep, that's the organization I want to emulate". Only reason the Royals are good now is that they got rid of Dayton and brought in a bunch of folks from Cleveland and Tampa to get better at scouting and player development.
They brought in Josh Barfield, Brian Bannister, Paul Janish.
Not only is he seeking public dollars for a new stadium, he's moving the Sox and Bulls (and piggybacking the Blackhawks) to a new regional sports network starting this fall...when most of them (RSN's)are going bankrupt!
Ah yes President William Van Buren
Don't forget Martin Harrison. Just 30 days in office
Not to be confused Henry Harding
Ain't he the one that croaked after eating cherries? What kindof a way to go is that? Imagine living in a time when you could get bumped off by some cherries. Skill issue
Thats how forgettable Van Buren was lol
@@TacitusKilgore165
Nah, that was Zachary Tyler, not to be confused with John Taylor.
As an aspiring horror director, I wanna make a torture themed movie where the main character is a White Sox fan. I think that alone is pretty scary.
Makes me glad my Grandma was from Minnesota and not Illinois. We have had bad seasons, but nothing quite this bad.
Tony La Russa with his hat titled to the right, that sums up the White Sox' last competitive window perfectly.
Jerry is like my grandfather. Aside taxes and gas prices, hasn't changed since the 90s
trust me, us sox fans are just ready for jerry to kick the bucket, the only way this organization will gain some kind of respect
I think he may have pulled a Virginia McCaskey and put his soul into a phylactery so that he too can become an eternal lich.
I think Chicago sports are just cursed in general.
The Bears have never had a franchise QB to call their own.
Outside of a few seasons, the Bulls have been largely irrelevant since MJ left.
The Cubs needed over a 100 years just to win a World Series title and probably went back to being mediocre.
The White Sox are a flaming dumpster rn and their 2005 title has to be the most forgettable title in sports.
And finally the 2010’s Blackhawks dynasty was overshadowed by the horrible Kyle Beach scandal.
The city can’t catch a break.
Even as a cubs fan I generally feel bad for the Sox🙁
Thank you Cub fan.
Same here, I know we suck but all my uncles and grandparents I feel bad for cuz they’re die hard Sox fans
I really wish we could find some way to have a random fan run a team for a year. In reality it wouldn't work due to logistics. But in theory you gave them the important decisions like hiring/firing and all player decisions, you could probably easily build a middle of the pack team. Sucking this bad is hard to do.
As a Bulls fan, the word continuity has haunted me these past 2 seasons
9:27
And even with the Rockies, fans will go see them. Ownership there sucks ass, but the fans are loyal. Gotta give them that.
White Sox fans are loyal but they know the white Sox don’t care about winning
Everyone come quick! U-Tree posted!
Jerry reinsdorf needs his own video
Long overdue and well deserved, but as a White Sox fan, it still makes me sad. 😢
I don't know which team I have less hope for the bulls or the Sox. Neither has a future nor a present while Jerry is stuck in the past.
The bulls. Sox have a good farm system.
You need a video for Jerry alone.
Vaughn hasn’t panned out but shows flashes of promise. Korey Lee has been my favorite current player but that’s scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Being a White Sox, Bulls, and Bears fan has been horrifically rough these past 5-10 years
I feel sorry for you all up there. It seems like Chicago has generally fallen into rack and ruin as a whole. We're not doing any better down here in St. Louis, though. Maybe I-55 is the Highway to Hell after all.
as a white sox fan, i was waiting for this video for a long... long... time
Go Go White Sox!!!
I live close enough I can see the fireworks go off whenever they hit a home run here on the South Side. Unfortunately that’s about all they have left is the fireworks… sell the team Jerry and the Bulls as well since we’re bringing it up!
Can we just gawk at the fact the AL central is actually the best division in Baseball right now
I remember the absolute depression on my dads face when we looked up footage of the 2005 World Series and the first result was about how it’s the most forgotten world series
Also was gonna show this to my dad but then I got to the 10 minute mark 😬
Why would it be remembered. The white Sox just vanished after it occurred. Their pitching was so dominant to the point where there was no drama. A blink of the eye and you miss it
Or 2007 very close! They’re 11-1 record does give them more recognition.
@@Brandon-qd2lb And winning Game 2 of the Series on a walkoff HR by a dude who had zero homers in the regular season, only World Series game to end like that
@@MustacheDLuffyI think the real reason it is forgotten is because the White Sox are not as popular as the Cubs, in addition to their scandal 105 years ago.
As an Astros fan, I was expecting a Stros video. Heck, since the White Sox ripped my heart out in 2005, they've melted down faster AND worse than the Astros did in those 16-plus years. I'm still expecting an Astros video, but this will do.
EDIT: This video ends like the Yankees' video did: With Altuve crushing your team's chances of winning along with the baseball.
Well at least you guys got revenge on them in 2021.
@@RFE812 I don't consider it 'revenge' since by that time, Bagwell and Biggio were long gone. I do, however, think of it as a moment much like the 2015 wild card game, where you could see a franchise die right in front of our eyes.
As a CLE fan I’m always happy to see the Sox on my schedule and they make easy wins for my team in our division glad they’re in it 😂😂😂
You forgot the best part, this team wants a new Stadium and wanted the public to pay for the whole thing. All 1.7 Billion of it.
I heard the bargain price of only $1 billion. Did he change it?
@@UrinatingTree I think its still $1 billion the Sox are asking for, but some reports in April said Jerry was willing to propose to help pay for part of the stadium with his own money which knowing how cheap this a-hole is, its probably gonna be like 40% or lower while the state foots the rest of the bill.
@@UrinatingTree I think that was thrown about due to The 76 project.
@@Hiei2k7 *78, not 76. The name is based on it being an unofficial addition to Chicago's 77 official Community Areas, some of which correspond to actual neighborhoods, some of which don't. (And even when they do match they often have weird and/or obsolete names, just look up the official names for Pilsen and for Little Village).
As an Astros fan, I remember the '05 Sox. Crushed some dreams.
But yeah, what happened South Side? Thanks for another great video Tree.
This team cut MIKE MOUSTAKAS!!!
My favorite posting notification on YT! God bless U-Tree
This team is insane. I can’t believe how fast they rose and fell. Mets are right behind them and back to normal
I do find it kind of sad that people actually forget that the White Sox ended their world series curse with a victory in 2005. I actually remembered it but that might be because that was at the time when I first really got into watching baseball or even sports in general. As a kid in the '90s I don't know I guess that was too into playing Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis and N64 and PS1 that I just didn't really have interest in watching sports. Not to mention I love watching the nicktoons of the time as well as the Simpsons since it was such a great show back then.
I remember the 2005 Chicago White Sox being a really dominant team. 99 wins leading the American League and being the second most wins in all baseball. Completely dominating the playoffs. Sweeping the Red Sox would ended their world series cursed a year before and then beating the Angels with ease in five games in the ALCS all to sweep an Astros team that actually put up a fight in the world series despite the fact that the White Sox would sweeten them. I mean that Astros team overcame the one and only team that had a better record than the White Sox that year which was the Cardinals and they beat them in six games in the NLCS.
This was a really dominant team and this is coming from an Oakland A's fan. I also remember that despite the Oakland days who at one point a season would not stop winning which was awesome too bad that day had lost so much prior to that point that even though they kept winning they were still playing catch up, but ultimately they ended the season with 88 wins and missed the playoffs but amazingly despite how dominant the Chicago White Sox were that year the opened A's actually dominated them and kept beating them anyway.
So sad for the Chicago White Sox that they are so forgotten for their incredibly dominant 2005 world series run So much to the point that on wheel of Fortune when there was a crossword for contestants to figure out about championship teams in Chicago, the White Sox weren't even mentioned. I mean that is such a slap in the face right there.
This year’s team should be renamed the White Flags.
I've been a diehard Chicago White Sox fan for nearly 40 years. I say that with the very express intent of sharing my deep and undying love for this team. And my call is rooted in heartbreak, not anger. Don't get me wrong, I'm angry, but it is a byproduct of a dysfunctional, abusive relationship with the front office and the ownership of the Chicago White Sox. I also want to say I have defended this rebuild. I liked what the team did with the trade. I defended Yasmani [Grandal] and Dallas [Keuchel]. I didn't understand the La Russa hire, but I gave them the benefit of the doubt. I forgave the free agents they let go. I was befuddled by the Benintendi and Clevinger signings. But you know what? I said I'm going to give them one last shot. And when they canceled Soxfest, like the cowards they are, I knew something was up. But now we know, obviously the experiment is over. The vast majority of the prospects have been busts. The product on the field is pathetic. We have exactly two players of excellence on this roster, Dylan Cease and Tim Anderson. Everyone else is nowhere near the kind of player they need to be to make this a winning team.
You'd think that would be enough to wake this organization up. But yesterday, Kenny Williams had the gall to say that he's not in a good place right now, and accountability is not an issue. You're right, he's not in a good place. He's not in a job he should have. Think about all the promises that Rick Hahn made, mired in mediocrity, that he bragged about Romy González in Spring Training, and I'll trade him if I get the right price. Think about the things Grifol said, "Come to the park, we're going to kick everyone's butts." They must have been talking about the fans! Not the other teams. The entire lineup is batting under .220. The best hitter on the team is Jake. Burger! We're a Triple A team. Our right fielders are hitting .180 with a weighted runs created plus (wRC+) of 28! I don't even need to tell you about the pitching staff. Katz has got to go. Moncada, TA, Eloy, Yas, Joe Kelly - it's week 4! They've all already been hurt! Tens of millions of dollars on replacement level players while stars go elsewhere. We're 11 games under .500. The Bears needed six months to get 11 games under .500. We needed three weeks.
In the 15 years of Rick Hahn, we have been a constant experiment that has never panned out. In the 25 years of Kenny Williams, we had exactly one season of excellence with a perfect storm of players that has not once come even close to being the same. I don't want to hear about the strength of schedule in April. With the money we spent, the players we have, playing .500 ball should be underachieving. Not 11 games under .500! We keep going after players that Rick Hahn liked five years ago. Lance Lynn, over the hill. Yas, over the hill. Benintendi, he wanted him in the draft six years ago. He's got a 0.1 WAR. Clevinger isn't just a clubhouse cancer, and a disgusting human being, he's a horrendous pitcher! Joe Kelly has been useless! We signed Vince Velasquez! Give me a break. John Jay, Yonder Alonso. Between [all of] them, that's 200 million on a bunch of black holes and an ERA of 240!
The entire organization is poisoned. The entire way that they go about their business is a failure. Firing Rick isn't enough. Firing Kenny isn't enough. If Chris Getz gets promoted and we have to sit through another 15 year retool/rebuild, you're just going to hear from me again in 2038!
I don't care if we go on a torrid winning streak in May and June and somehow get back to .500 ball, and then we scooch our way into the postseason in the Wild Card only to get bounced right away by a team that's actually good. We have no depth in our organization. One injury and we are done. This process isn't working. Our farm system has been in the bottom 10 for 45 years, aside from the one frame of time when they traded all our talent away and graduated them all right up - and then we were the worst again! There is one solution. In his final years, Jerry Reinsdorf, who, by the way, wouldn't even have the reputation he had if he hadn't have lucked upon Michael Jordan at #3 in 1984, has the courage to get rid of the yes men around him and fire everyone. He bought into the Chicago Bulls and the White Sox for $20 million. He's worth two billion now! He needs to use a fraction of that money he made on the backs of Chicago's blue collar baseball fans and pay for a front office to come and rebuild everything.
Rick Hahn and Kenny Williams cannot be trusted to rebuild this team again. They need to retire and go off into the sunset and play golf with the millions of dollars they made on their cushy paychecks for a job that they had a longer leash for than any executive in the history of the modern era of baseball. Let someone qualified come in and run this team. At this point, we would need a historic turnaround to even be mildly relevant. Everyone said the AL Central was weak, and it might be in comparison to others. But the Sox aren't better than the Guardians or the Twins. We're not even better than the Royals! And the fact that we're only incrementally better than the Tigers is exactly the indictment on this organization that we need. The lack of success that this roster has [had] is a referendum of what we've already seen in 2006, 2007, 2011, 2013, 2015 and 16. And the excruciating last seven years that only led to this. I mean, [Steve] Stoney is more worried about Lance Lynn eating a salad than the entire organization not knowing how to teach Major League prospects how to hit a baseball!
To be fair, they have good food 🍱 at White Sox games
It might be No, Cubs, No, but it could be worse. It could ALWAYS be worse...
Just fyi here’s where certain rough past teams stood after 58 contests:
1916 Athletics: 17-41
1935 Braves: 18-40
1962 Mets: 16-42
2003 Tigers: 16-42
And now here’s your
2024 White Sox: 15-43
Tied with the 1952 Pirates 😱
I’m surprised this wasn’t a package deal with the Bulls
As a life-long Indians/Guardians fan I despise the Sox with every fiber of my being. But I can't hate their fans. I feel bad for them, honestly. They deserve so much better than what Reinsdorf is giving them.
As a Rockies fan, I'm so jealous of the losing pace that the White Sox are on this year.
Watching teams play like this makes me grateful that I support the teams that I do. The Astros might be ass this year but we’ve been spoiled with success for nearly a decade now
The Astros will barely make the WC. But at least they ain't shit like the White Sox have been for 15 years.
As a White Sox’s fan, this season is like watching the last season of Game of Thrones, but so much more depressing.
I’ve been waiting for Tree to talk about my pathetic White Sox and he did not disappoint me! Been a fan since I went to my first game back in 1993, I was 5 years old. Seen the highs and lows since and this is the ultimate low I’ve seen this franchise. Haven’t watched a game this season and I don’t plan on at all. Jerry has ruined this franchise for the next 5 years likely. Until he dies or by some miracle he sells the team while he’s still alive, all White Sox fans including myself will have something to celebrate.