I'll be heading to the Renault dealer as soon as they have test cars. Having had an MG4 for two years and wanting rid of it (its been a pain of constant niggles - wouldn't buy another MG) I have been on the verge of going back to ICE as there was nothing else at the price point that wasn't an SUV (the Born and ID.3 lose me on the infotainment system) and the Mini had too short a range. If this car works perfectly from day 1, it will be a winner.
This is the second EV I would love to have (the first one was Ioniq N). But this one makes it to the top of my list for its small size and weight. I have a soft spot for smaller vehicles which can be rtaken not too seriosuly. And anyways, you don't need 1000 horse powers to have fun on public roads. I'd rather have a lighter car with less power than other way around.
@@jukeboxjohnnieGo get the twingo once it comes out if you want old r5 size, making something that small nowadays into a 5 door hatchback requires a size increase
I think it's a lovely looking wee car though point of note whilst the original MK1 Renault 5 finished in 1985 it actually didn't stop being made until 1996 as there was a MK2 made from 1985-1996.
I'm old enough to remember that. Apparently inn all the styling clinics people voted for the car that looked similar to the old model. Then when it came out people didn't realise it was a completely new car as opposed to a minor facelift. Hence the Clio being markedly different when that came out,
Hi Tish a brilliant review as ever and it makes me so pleased to see the return of the Renault 5 I loved my super cinq (series 2) and campus which I had just fantastic cars to drive and always put a smile on my face now for the lottery win to purchase one! All the best and keep up the hard work Daniel
I have test driven it and definitely love the car. I'm missing more colour - options though - that car would look good in orange, red or blue as well...
Much better concept to reality than Honda E. I like the look of it in yellow. I know it is smaller than the Ionic 5 but it does still appear to have that oversized hatchback look that doesn’t quite sit right somehow.
Hello Tish! Could you please mention in your videos if there is a frunk or not, whenever you review EVs - and/or - just open the bonnet to show if maybe it could have been? Cheers ☺ IMHO ALL EVs should have frunks, where one should put ones charging cables.
@@thomasespeland8343 Renault 5 does not exactly have a designated frunk but it does get an accessory which is a storage section which slots under the bonnet to fit the cables.
Great review and great car 👍. A bit sad you did not use the train rather than flying, about 600 kg of CO2 rather than 20 kg by train. Sure it takes more time, but you can work in the train (rather than back at the office) and probably enjoy a better view compared to your office. And honestly, airports are awful. Sorry to bother you but electric mobility is all about reducing emission, and we will not reach net zero by just driving electric.
Still looking hot tish lol That Renault 5 does look nice think will be a very popular car Maybe not as popular as the original classic Renault5 but for a city car think it will be popular in the future x
With 50 kWh, a nice charging curve topping at 100 kW, battery pre conditioning, and Google as a trip planner, you can go everywhere in Europe. So not just a city car. But sure, a Megane E Tech or a Scenic E Tech (to stay in the same brand) will be more comfortable for long trips, especially with the whole family.
That’s a wonderful modern version of the Renault 5 it has so many features that are iconic with the original. It’s the most exciting small EV I’ve seen!
@@gazzaman28- Is a 3 cylinder turbo hybrid really heavier than an electric car? I doubt that. Complicated yes I agree the hybrid is definitely more complicated. Compromise... An electric car is definitely more compromised than a hybrid. In terms of usability.
The flattened steering wheel is embarrassing. And what's worst is that this lousy solution is extended to the whole group Renault. 👎 And I'll explain it a bit. Car as a very useful invention has over 100 years of existence. Some of its features are well thought from the begining (like the steering wheel, the gas pedal and the brake pedal, too ... also the warning horn) ... some of them appeared later (like three points safety belt, ABS, airbag s.o.). Well, in my opinion, every device or gadget of the car has to submit to the number one priority: safety. Of the driver, of the car occupants, of the people outside the car. And a decisive element for this safety is driver's attention. Therefore, anything that can distract driver's attention is a potential hazard. So, is it the shape of the steering wheel of new Renault cars such a disturbing factor ? Well, it's sure that it is not as disturbing as the stupid shape of some of the steering wheels of some Tesla models. But what it is ? It's a little paradox. Which reminds to the driver ... every minute ... that he/she drives a French car ... and "we, the French are original" ... 😀 Also, the steering wheel doesn't slide through the hand when the driver lets it free after an U turn, for instance ... as easy as if the steering wheel is a perfect circle. So, "if it works - don't fix it ! " it's a totally decent approach. The same type of discussion with physical buttons versus on the screen commands ... the "Christmasy" ambient lights ... or the stupid door handles. 😏
Very good review. I think that it will be a big seller. But I don't think that it is the car for me because I would prefer something a little bit bigger with LFP batteries. The Dolphin remains the top candidate at the moment.
@@MrDuncl Tish liked the Dolphin when she reviewed it and I thought that she was going to mention it. It seems that it didn't create a big impression on her.
Less than twice the price of the cheapest new car (Dacia Sandero at £14000). Anyway you aren't supposed to buy these new. Either lease one (my prediction is £200 a month on salary sacrifice) or pick up an ex lease one for about £10000 in three years time.
I am proud Renault takes the 2035 deadline seriously. And I am not sure why they should have any shame about that, especially with equivalent petrol cars for people who are not ready (eg Clio and Capture). Maybe you can explain.
I think you do not realize what a petrol car costs, including the petrol and the maintenance and later the repairs. Furthermore little does not mean cheap, if you want a cheaper car you can wait for the Renault Twingo E Tech, or depending of your needs the new Renault/Mobilize Twizy (80 km/h, 160 km of range, AC, aibag, 2 seat) for half the price.
@@didierpuzenat7280- You shouldn't include petrol in that metric as not everyone can charge at home whereas everyone can refuel their car at a petrol station. My car by the costs of how much petrol it needs for a mile is cheaper than what the public chargers cost. Even the dreadfully slow 7KW chargers.
This car reminds me of Honda e it is a stylish EV with not so great range. It has a better range than Honda, but the problem is MG4 offers more value for money.
There are still plenty of hybrids and other polluting petrol cars in Renault lineup, eg the Clio and Capture. But automakers wont be 100% electric in 2035 if they continue investing in petrol cars in 2025. And a car last easily 15 years, so 2035 is the deadline to reach net zero in 2050. Going electric is not just about the car but also the factories and retraining the work force, so 10 years is already quite a challenge. Furthermore, this car would not be as good if it was not designed to be only electric.
@@PassportToPimlico- Moving from the horse has obvious improvements like the stench of horse manure not filling the streets. The move to electric is actually a downgrade to most people as they will see reduced range, higher car prices, longer 'top up' times etc over their current petrol cars. So I don't think it's unreasonable for someone to ask for a petrol version.
@@mr8I7 Except that just as the internal combustion engine is what saved London from drowning in horse manure, the EV is to save us from climate change.
@@didierpuzenat7280 - So many car companies are going to go bankrupt because of this. Anyone who isn't a homeowner won't buy an EV until they absolutely have to. i.e in about 30-40 years when these cars start to become impossible to repair.
@@mr8I7 Do only "homeowners" have garages where you live ? Furthermore even if you rent your home or your apartment you can install a charge point, in my country (France) you can do it even if your owner does not agree. Anyway, there are *plenty* of charge points nowadays, so if charging at home is the best way it is definitely not the only way. And you do not even have to wait, you just plug where you have to be. When on vacation all over Europe I just use public charging and it is just perfect. And you miss the point, we *must* reach net zero in 2050, but it does not mean we all must drive EVs in 2050. In my city I could already live happily without owning a car, and alternatives to cars are increasing at a very high pace. So sure, maybe some car companies are going to go bankrupt, but who cares ? The employees will just find better jobs to build EVs, PVs, tramways, trolley buses, electric buses, metros, trains, etc.
I'd love to better understand Renault's Life Cycle Assessment of the new R5. France and the EU are famously pushing back on Chinese built EV because the embodied carbon emissions are high, with much of China's industry creating parts, mining, refining, is heavily based on fossil fuels. Tish, as a legend, can you be the first English speaking journo to get Renault to publish an LCA report and discuss it with you. I assure you, this is a critical part of the R5 story, but also it's really important stuff for buyers to understand. This isn't just throwing shade on the Chinese. But if Renault has focused on slashing the cradle to grave emissions, they tell their story in detail. Production emissions in tons CO2e please. Let's ensure they don't just state 30% lower than our ICE cars as they have in the past, which doesn't at all give a critical understanding of sustainability.
IMHO most drivers are just interested in saving money while having a reasonably cool car. Governments are interested in preserving jobs and not letting dumping of subsidised Chinese cars destroy local companies.
@@MrDuncl Most drivers have lost sight of why we're transitioning off of fossil fuel cars. It's important that we not reduce the whole situation to personal choice or business as usual for car makers. Because there won't be much of anything left soon if we continue to ignore the impacts that all cars have on emissions (including EVs). It's the job of journalists (though they might not understand or accept it as such) to remind people why we're doing this, and who's doing it well and who's just shifting much of the emissions from the tailpipe to the mining and industrial sectors. The USA is definitely failing in that regard, releasing 9,000 lb. EV pickups with 212 kWh batteries, with no impact reporting about the vehicles' LCA.
@@karlInSanDiego There are two approaches. The Tesla Model 3 has sold very well in the U.K. Mainly because the cool factor, 0-60 etc but also because of taxation. Taking another EV, choosing a Mustang Mach E as a company / lease car will cost someone £30 a month tax while the ICE Mustang will cost them well over £300. In the end people choose with their wallets. p.s. Fun fact of the type Journalists should be promoting. One turn of the U.K's largest wind turbine will power a Tesla for 800 miles !
This EV costs less than the average price of a new car in Europe, and since it is electric it costs 1,5 € in electric for 100 km WLTP at least in France, with almost zero maintenance. But sure, you can find a 10 years old Zoe (battery included) for one tenth of the price, or just use a bicycle and trains for long trips. EVs are the future of cars, but cars are not the future of mobility.
@@markgillespie8842and one supposes you are fully aware of the footprint of oil extraction and combustion, as well as the efforts currently being put into battery recycling?
It will make a good second car if you can afford it. With the world and his dog pushing ECO why does any car have a sport mode? In Britain traffic is mostly slow so I always run my diesel in ECO mode and I get 67mpg. Learn to drive like a chauffeur and you will get there swiftly and economically.
I assumed it is obvious but an EV emits zero pollution or CO2 what ever the mode, super eco or eco or sport or super sport. Furthermore, a powerful petrol engine means more consumption (and pollution) even at low speed, while a powerful electric motor will consume (and weight) about the same as a basic one. In fact, the power on an EV depends of the capacity of the battery, since the more cells the more total output power. But sure, even with an EV, driving smoothly save energy.
You buy a car because it matches you needs, not because it as the best absolute value. I own a model 3 AWD but because the whole family use public transportation on a daily basis, me included, otherwise I would change happily for the R5 E Tech since the Tesla is not so practical in an old French city. Or maybe even have a second car eg the new Renault Twizy aka Mobilize Duo (80 km/h, 160 km of range, AC, aibag, 2 seat) . BTW, the cheapest R5 E Tech costs far less than 30 k€, this price is for the 50 kWh middle trim version.
After buying a corsa e from new I'm not going to bother going electric till i don't have a choice. Public charging is a rip off and crap the further north you go. I have a home charger but the odd time I've had to public charge it's been way to expensive! The worst thing about an EV which no one talks about is depreciation! My corsa e PCP ends at the end of next year and is already worth way less than the optional (balloon) payment! I'll go petrol for my next car until it becomes a better option financially and practically. I'll let others be the guinea pigs. I did consider a second hand EV but most have a 8 year warranty on the battery which would have ended come resale. I can see the value of those cars hitting rock bottom once the battery warranty has gone. Some dealers (main and independent) refuse to take an EV in part ex because used sales of them are so slow too
I have been driving an EV for the last 20 years, starting with a PSA 106 electric, now driving a Tesla model 3 AWD since 2018 with no plan to change until it dies (or I die !). And it has always been perfect. But I do not live in the UK, in France I have plenty of chargers all around me with quite affordable prices. Not to mention it costs me 1.5 € per 100 km when I charge at home so 95% of the time. So maybe you should lobby your government about the charging infrastructure if you want some progresses. Regarding depreciation, cars are indeed not an investment, nothing new, if you want to minimize depreciation (or event profit of depreciation) just buy a second hand EV. Or if you buy a brand new EV, just keep it as long as it matches your needs, if you see the car market as fast fashion you will just be another victim of planned obsolescence. Up to you.
@MrDuncl you couldn't when I bought mine several years ago, I pay £230 a month on PCP Lease deal was £240a month with the same up front cost I was hoping it would be worth at least £1k to £2k more than the balloon payment at the end. It's worth what the balloon payment will be at the end of next year currently on trade in!
@@MrDuncl Depreciation comes from the fact that people now view cars as a fashion item, thanks to automakers making small changes every years. Idem for "journalists" blaming models that stay the same over the years. It is just another kind of planned obsolescence. I keep my cars till they do not anymore meet my needs, so most of the time until they die. My previous EV was a "106 electric" produced in the 90, and since 2018 I drive a model 3 and I plan to drive it as long as possible. Sure I could sell it and buy a new EV, but why ?
Good little car but its taken too long to come to market and expectations have been somewhat deflated. Price is the best thing about the car but charging speed is disappointing.
Charging is not just about max power, and 100 kW is not bad. The real world charging speed also depends on the battery automatic conditioning, a good charging curve and a good planing tool and Google automotive is very good. So this R5 with 50 kW should be fine for long trips. But of course a 60 kWh Megane will be more suitable for frequent long trips, or the 80+ kWh Scenic, or any Tesla . And of course, on a daily basis, charging any EV just takes 4 seconds, eg the time to plug. And even for a long trip, the car is often ready to continue before the driver and the passengers so charging also just takes 4 seconds of your time, while fueling a petrol cars takes at lest 5 minutes and is quite disgusting. At least it is my experience in Europe and Ireland, I haven't been driving so much with my EV in UK since I am more used to come visit by train (from France).
The camera is on wide and just by my left shoulder, so it appears that my arms are a lot further stretch than they are. No need to wince, I’m close enough.
If you drive 400 km without any break you are just dangerous, but you may think you are different. BTW why going to London if you do not plan to stay their at least 30 minutes ? But sure, some people need more range, and it may be your case, that's why automakers don't sell just one model, the Megane E Tech has 470 km WLTP range and the Scenic E Tech more than 600 km. And there are of course other brands, the new model 3 available in Europe (at least in France) has more than 700 km WLTP of range, diapers not included.
@@TonyMontana-zl8pz The car needs 30 minutes to charge but it takes the driver less than a minute to charge on a public charge point, and even less than 5 seconds if it is a Tesla supercharger (thanks to the plug & charge protocol). Idem at home, less than 5 seconds. I definitively spend far less time charging my EV than your *waste* time and money fueling your car. But I don't expect you to understand...
@@TonyMontana-zl8pz As expected, you don't understand how to use an EV. I guess you will understand when you will own one, or maybe you will wait hours in your garage at home looking at your car slowly charging !
Do you ever give a bad review of anything? Admit I only watch cars that appeal to me. I've watched other reviews of this car but yours was as per type... Sorry
It is gorgeous with decent range for its size. For me, the Best Buy for a small city EV. Ah, and thank god, not an SUV.
Very interested, currently leasing a e-208 and that is nice looking car. This knocks it out of the park though. Well done Renault 👍
Looks like Renault have a winner I like both colours and the very competitive pricing
The race France/europe vs China has begun for electric city car. The battle for the best price will be hard.
You forgot South Korea
Buying a Chinese car is like financing your enemy
@@seanlive6975 I've sat in the Hyundai Inster. It's a revelation for room.
@@DoubtingTom Not sure seeing the biggest car market as "the enemy" will save the European car industry.
@@DoubtingTom you definitely have absolutely NOTHING in your home that was made in China.
I'll be heading to the Renault dealer as soon as they have test cars. Having had an MG4 for two years and wanting rid of it (its been a pain of constant niggles - wouldn't buy another MG) I have been on the verge of going back to ICE as there was nothing else at the price point that wasn't an SUV (the Born and ID.3 lose me on the infotainment system) and the Mini had too short a range. If this car works perfectly from day 1, it will be a winner.
This is the second EV I would love to have (the first one was Ioniq N). But this one makes it to the top of my list for its small size and weight. I have a soft spot for smaller vehicles which can be rtaken not too seriosuly. And anyways, you don't need 1000 horse powers to have fun on public roads. I'd rather have a lighter car with less power than other way around.
Rensults designers have hit jackpot
Its a fat mess, lacking delicacy of the original
@@jukeboxjohnnieGo get the twingo once it comes out if you want old r5 size, making something that small nowadays into a 5 door hatchback requires a size increase
I think it's a lovely looking wee car though point of note whilst the original MK1 Renault 5 finished in 1985 it actually didn't stop being made until 1996 as there was a MK2 made from 1985-1996.
Correct I had three Renault 5 vans, an 1988 a 90 and a 91 1.6 diesel, all ex An Post, (Irish Postal Service)
I'm old enough to remember that. Apparently inn all the styling clinics people voted for the car that looked similar to the old model. Then when it came out people didn't realise it was a completely new car as opposed to a minor facelift. Hence the Clio being markedly different when that came out,
Je confirme. Je suis un des premiers propriétaires dans ma région et elle juste GENIALE
Hi Tish a brilliant review as ever and it makes me so pleased to see the return of the Renault 5 I loved my super cinq (series 2) and campus which I had just fantastic cars to drive and always put a smile on my face now for the lottery win to purchase one! All the best and keep up the hard work Daniel
Fun fact. In 1986 a friend could only get a 2.5 x salary mortgage because he had had the audacity to buy a used Renault 5 using a car loan.
Excellent review. Thanks ! I subscribe to this TH-cam channel 👍... Renault R5 = future 2025 Car of the year, for sure !
Brilliant review Tish!
Thank you so much! ☺️
I have test driven it and definitely love the car. I'm missing more colour - options though - that car would look good in orange, red or blue as well...
thank you so much! you did a very good review
Another great review, love your channel.
@@chrisabbott683 thank you for watching Chris and glad you liked it!
Love this car. Next car Im buying
Cracking review as always Tish. The one review I've been waiting for with excitement.
it’s nice to finally see someone in the back who’s average height instead of a massive giant.
There were two gen. of the r5 and it was producet until 1996
Much better concept to reality than Honda E. I like the look of it in yellow. I know it is smaller than the Ionic 5 but it does still appear to have that oversized hatchback look that doesn’t quite sit right somehow.
Excellent review Trish…thank you…
Great review 😊
Thank you! 🤗
I know which legend I prefer, 1 of a kind.. Great video
good review a fresh new channel to me . good job
Welcome aboard! Thank you for watching!
wish they had them in the states.
Nice, but few people buy the already available small EVs in the US, so I understand very few European automakers take the risk.
Love the intro!
Hello Tish! Could you please mention in your videos if there is a frunk or not, whenever you review EVs - and/or - just open the bonnet to show if maybe it could have been? Cheers ☺
IMHO ALL EVs should have frunks, where one should put ones charging cables.
@@thomasespeland8343 Renault 5 does not exactly have a designated frunk but it does get an accessory which is a storage section which slots under the bonnet to fit the cables.
do you mean under the bonnet and the boot?
I grew up with the original Renault 5 and this car does not make my heart sing in the same way. But it's certainly a nice wagon.
Great review and great car 👍. A bit sad you did not use the train rather than flying, about 600 kg of CO2 rather than 20 kg by train. Sure it takes more time, but you can work in the train (rather than back at the office) and probably enjoy a better view compared to your office. And honestly, airports are awful. Sorry to bother you but electric mobility is all about reducing emission, and we will not reach net zero by just driving electric.
I enjoyed watching the video, on Tuesday the New Renault 4 will be revealed at the Paris Motor Show 😊
You are a legend , Tish.
You are a legend!
Absolutely stunning ❤ looks amazing and just looks so much fun 👌
The car looks good as well! 😂
@@gadgetman36😏
Still looking hot tish lol
That Renault 5 does look nice think will be a very popular car
Maybe not as popular as the original classic Renault5 but for a city car think it will be popular in the future x
With 50 kWh, a nice charging curve topping at 100 kW, battery pre conditioning, and Google as a trip planner, you can go everywhere in Europe. So not just a city car. But sure, a Megane E Tech or a Scenic E Tech (to stay in the same brand) will be more comfortable for long trips, especially with the whole family.
I'd like to see a yellow or green without the red line.
That's the techno version. But it has the denim and ochre upholstery that I find a bit dull...
That’s a wonderful modern version of the Renault 5 it has so many features that are iconic with the original. It’s the most exciting small EV I’ve seen!
Love this
This is on my list of wants. Yes I agree I do not like the red strip. Otherwise I love it both inside and out.
Here... only and only for tishh ❤
If only there would be a petrol version
Your opening patter was lol good
Just look at the original 5 Turbo alloys !!!!!!
That wireless charging is nice! So you won't even have to plug it in anymore! 😁
@@FéargalO Oh, the phone.....
There are buses around here that charge on charging plates which is kinda wireless.
So it's kinda possible.
17 inch wheels would improve ride.
Looks great but where is the GT turbo?
I don’t think they’ll be a GT Turbo for the Renault, I think they’ll leave the sporty models for the Alpine
You need an ice engine to have a turbo😅😂😅
There's the alpine A290 coming
@@deanpayne1068 You probably need to let Porsche know
You are a legend in my eyes Tish!
Haha thank you!!
@@AutoSocialUK I agree with gadgetman36, with the bonus being how gorgeous you are! ❤
I'm an only child and I will use your sentence about rebirthing a legend.
Nice car, but you are right about the red line, it looks out of place.
Absolutely stunning , great looking with perfect curves...
The Car not bad too..❤x
Car i can take or leave but as my mums only child that intro was 10/10 and I may use it myself 😂
Of course you can change the color of that bars
It looks great and it's different
It would be interesting if they also launched it as a hybrid
Hybrid means more weight, more complication, more compromise. 52kWh battery should be over 200 miles range, reasonable for the size of car.
@@gazzaman28- Is a 3 cylinder turbo hybrid really heavier than an electric car? I doubt that.
Complicated yes I agree the hybrid is definitely more complicated.
Compromise... An electric car is definitely more compromised than a hybrid. In terms of usability.
Hi, Tish 💙
The flattened steering wheel is embarrassing. And what's worst is that this lousy solution is extended to the whole group Renault. 👎
And I'll explain it a bit. Car as a very useful invention has over 100 years of existence. Some of its features are well thought from the begining (like the steering wheel, the gas pedal and the brake pedal, too ... also the warning horn) ... some of them appeared later (like three points safety belt, ABS, airbag s.o.).
Well, in my opinion, every device or gadget of the car has to submit to the number one priority: safety. Of the driver, of the car occupants, of the people outside the car. And a decisive element for this safety is driver's attention. Therefore, anything that can distract driver's attention is a potential hazard.
So, is it the shape of the steering wheel of new Renault cars such a disturbing factor ? Well, it's sure that it is not as disturbing as the stupid shape of some of the steering wheels of some Tesla models. But what it is ? It's a little paradox. Which reminds to the driver ... every minute ... that he/she drives a French car ... and "we, the French are original" ... 😀
Also, the steering wheel doesn't slide through the hand when the driver lets it free after an U turn, for instance ... as easy as if the steering wheel is a perfect circle. So, "if it works - don't fix it ! " it's a totally decent approach.
The same type of discussion with physical buttons versus on the screen commands ... the "Christmasy" ambient lights ... or the stupid door handles. 😏
top car !
Really nice looking car such a shame we don't get a petrol version.
Idiot !
If you have an idea for a zero emission petrol car I am sure Renault will be interested, because you know, 2035.
I wonder if they have made provision for one like Jeep did with the Avenger ?
Very good review. I think that it will be a big seller. But I don't think that it is the car for me because I would prefer something a little bit bigger with LFP batteries. The Dolphin remains the top candidate at the moment.
It would be interesting to see a comparison. Working next door to a BYD dealer I was thinking of the Dolphin when Tish was talking about SUVs.
@@MrDuncl Tish liked the Dolphin when she reviewed it and I thought that she was going to mention it. It seems that it didn't create a big impression on her.
Me too i prefer hybrid or petrol , cheers from Lisbon 🇵🇹
so you can't charge near home?
@@NisseOhlsen- Charging is more expensive than buying petrol and far slower.
Unless you're a rich homeowner and then money is not a problem anyway
Will never want electric, but it's a cool looking car. Agree with that red trim. Should match the roof.
Get an electric and go ,'vroom vroom'. You'll be fine.
@@AlanTov it's the second hand trade in price that kills you. Cousin owes 15k still on a EV golf and it's worth 8k lol.
The trim comes in Gold, red and black, The red only really works with the yellow and black body colours.
@@markgillespie8842 That is because you can lease an ID3 for about £220 a month (unless the rules get changed in the budget).
@@markgillespie8842He bought a VW. What do you expect?
In the history bit near the start you said production ceased in 1985. That's definitely wrong.
Kinda wrong and right - the mk1 ended production in 1985. The mk2, or supercinq was launched, which I reckon the Etech looks most like.
I really hope that intro was satirical...
@@henryklaus5593 lighten up Henry
You said nothing about ride quality.
I like the red bar
Think I will keep to my Megan E Tec
Could have been a 0.1 sec video as £23,000 is all we need to know...
Yes, a very affordable EV.
Less than twice the price of the cheapest new car (Dacia Sandero at £14000). Anyway you aren't supposed to buy these new. Either lease one (my prediction is £200 a month on salary sacrifice) or pick up an ex lease one for about £10000 in three years time.
Shame it's not got an ICE version.
I am proud Renault takes the 2035 deadline seriously. And I am not sure why they should have any shame about that, especially with equivalent petrol cars for people who are not ready (eg Clio and Capture). Maybe you can explain.
23 K for a little car, still not cheap by any means!!
Are you sure. Have you seen how much small cars are now. Base model 208 Puretech 1.2 Petrol is £22.5K. So £23K for this seems spot on.
I think you do not realize what a petrol car costs, including the petrol and the maintenance and later the repairs. Furthermore little does not mean cheap, if you want a cheaper car you can wait for the Renault Twingo E Tech, or depending of your needs the new Renault/Mobilize Twizy (80 km/h, 160 km of range, AC, aibag, 2 seat) for half the price.
@@didierpuzenat7280- You shouldn't include petrol in that metric as not everyone can charge at home whereas everyone can refuel their car at a petrol station.
My car by the costs of how much petrol it needs for a mile is cheaper than what the public chargers cost. Even the dreadfully slow 7KW chargers.
15:48 me tooo
Renault. Bringing Microsoft Clippy to you car....
This car reminds me of Honda e it is a stylish EV with not so great range. It has a better range than Honda, but the problem is MG4 offers more value for money.
If it was a hybrid, I would buy it
There are still plenty of hybrids and other polluting petrol cars in Renault lineup, eg the Clio and Capture. But automakers wont be 100% electric in 2035 if they continue investing in petrol cars in 2025. And a car last easily 15 years, so 2035 is the deadline to reach net zero in 2050. Going electric is not just about the car but also the factories and retraining the work force, so 10 years is already quite a challenge. Furthermore, this car would not be as good if it was not designed to be only electric.
Hey Reno
Looks lovely, a pity RenaultSport don't exist and can't make a proper engined version
there will be Alpine 290 versions of this renault 5
If you want a sportive vehicle, just buy a bicycle 😁.
Need a, 5 turbo
It will be the R5 E Tech Alpine.
Did you scream while driving?
@@sunrise7236 scream?
Looks great, would consider a petrol version
will never happens, the platform was designed for electric.
@@vaudou74 Do you think that when Henry Ford revealed the first Model T, someone asked him for a horse drawn version?
@@PassportToPimlico- Moving from the horse has obvious improvements like the stench of horse manure not filling the streets.
The move to electric is actually a downgrade to most people as they will see reduced range, higher car prices, longer 'top up' times etc over their current petrol cars. So I don't think it's unreasonable for someone to ask for a petrol version.
@@mr8I7 Except that just as the internal combustion engine is what saved London from drowning in horse manure, the EV is to save us from climate change.
If they put a petrol engine in it, I'd buy one.
Fat chance. Carmakers can't invest in petrol car in 2025 and have a 100% electric line up in 2035.
@@didierpuzenat7280 - So many car companies are going to go bankrupt because of this. Anyone who isn't a homeowner won't buy an EV until they absolutely have to. i.e in about 30-40 years when these cars start to become impossible to repair.
@@mr8I7 Do only "homeowners" have garages where you live ? Furthermore even if you rent your home or your apartment you can install a charge point, in my country (France) you can do it even if your owner does not agree. Anyway, there are *plenty* of charge points nowadays, so if charging at home is the best way it is definitely not the only way. And you do not even have to wait, you just plug where you have to be. When on vacation all over Europe I just use public charging and it is just perfect. And you miss the point, we *must* reach net zero in 2050, but it does not mean we all must drive EVs in 2050. In my city I could already live happily without owning a car, and alternatives to cars are increasing at a very high pace. So sure, maybe some car companies are going to go bankrupt, but who cares ? The employees will just find better jobs to build EVs, PVs, tramways, trolley buses, electric buses, metros, trains, etc.
I'd love to better understand Renault's Life Cycle Assessment of the new R5. France and the EU are famously pushing back on Chinese built EV because the embodied carbon emissions are high, with much of China's industry creating parts, mining, refining, is heavily based on fossil fuels. Tish, as a legend, can you be the first English speaking journo to get Renault to publish an LCA report and discuss it with you. I assure you, this is a critical part of the R5 story, but also it's really important stuff for buyers to understand. This isn't just throwing shade on the Chinese. But if Renault has focused on slashing the cradle to grave emissions, they tell their story in detail. Production emissions in tons CO2e please. Let's ensure they don't just state 30% lower than our ICE cars as they have in the past, which doesn't at all give a critical understanding of sustainability.
IMHO most drivers are just interested in saving money while having a reasonably cool car. Governments are interested in preserving jobs and not letting dumping of subsidised Chinese cars destroy local companies.
@@MrDuncl Most drivers have lost sight of why we're transitioning off of fossil fuel cars. It's important that we not reduce the whole situation to personal choice or business as usual for car makers. Because there won't be much of anything left soon if we continue to ignore the impacts that all cars have on emissions (including EVs). It's the job of journalists (though they might not understand or accept it as such) to remind people why we're doing this, and who's doing it well and who's just shifting much of the emissions from the tailpipe to the mining and industrial sectors. The USA is definitely failing in that regard, releasing 9,000 lb. EV pickups with 212 kWh batteries, with no impact reporting about the vehicles' LCA.
@@karlInSanDiego There are two approaches. The Tesla Model 3 has sold very well in the U.K. Mainly because the cool factor, 0-60 etc but also because of taxation. Taking another EV, choosing a Mustang Mach E as a company / lease car will cost someone £30 a month tax while the ICE Mustang will cost them well over £300. In the end people choose with their wallets.
p.s. Fun fact of the type Journalists should be promoting. One turn of the U.K's largest wind turbine will power a Tesla for 800 miles !
If they put a combustion engine in it, it would be an interesting car, but this way it's just another fashion toy for the rich.
This EV costs less than the average price of a new car in Europe, and since it is electric it costs 1,5 € in electric for 100 km WLTP at least in France, with almost zero maintenance. But sure, you can find a 10 years old Zoe (battery included) for one tenth of the price, or just use a bicycle and trains for long trips. EVs are the future of cars, but cars are not the future of mobility.
@@didierpuzenat7280 - He's right though. EVs are only for the rich. Because only homeowners get any benefits from them.
the combustion version would sell like crazy. it, like the electric Abarth, will be too expensive and will end up as a curiosity.
Should've been hybrid
It is a shame that such a cool car is being reserved for those who have the luxury of a home charger ect but honestly I think it works best as an EV.
@@AutoSocialUKit'll be more of a shame if we don't do something about climate change.
@@AlanTov you do know how the batteries are made don't you?
@@markgillespie8842and one supposes you are fully aware of the footprint of oil extraction and combustion, as well as the efforts currently being put into battery recycling?
I agree
It's lovely but should have been RWD, why make a ground up EV front motor?
Original 5 is FWD that's why.
the original idea was for a RWD version but the development cost would have been too high.
I guess packaging? The Honda-e was RWD, and the tradeoff was a tiny boot.
How they going to turbo that!!! I like the green but thats about it i'm afraid.😒
It will make a good second car if you can afford it.
With the world and his dog pushing ECO why does any car have a sport mode?
In Britain traffic is mostly slow so I always run my diesel in ECO mode and I get 67mpg.
Learn to drive like a chauffeur and you will get there swiftly and economically.
I assumed it is obvious but an EV emits zero pollution or CO2 what ever the mode, super eco or eco or sport or super sport. Furthermore, a powerful petrol engine means more consumption (and pollution) even at low speed, while a powerful electric motor will consume (and weight) about the same as a basic one. In fact, the power on an EV depends of the capacity of the battery, since the more cells the more total output power. But sure, even with an EV, driving smoothly save energy.
Hype hype hype
It’s ok but just that the Ev market has become very bland
The car looks great, but that's almost all about it. It has too small size battery and the rear seat is a joke.
Small and expensive city car over 30.000€ in Finland. Tesla is the only one that can make reasonably priced cars.
You buy a car because it matches you needs, not because it as the best absolute value. I own a model 3 AWD but because the whole family use public transportation on a daily basis, me included, otherwise I would change happily for the R5 E Tech since the Tesla is not so practical in an old French city. Or maybe even have a second car eg the new Renault Twizy aka Mobilize Duo (80 km/h, 160 km of range, AC, aibag, 2 seat) . BTW, the cheapest R5 E Tech costs far less than 30 k€, this price is for the 50 kWh middle trim version.
Waiting 2 years for the M3 with city sizes.😱
I mean 2 years waiting….
Definitely not reborn as they forgot the turbo charged engine sadly 😢😮😢
Maybe Google or Renault will add an app for you to hear a petrol engine within the car, as long at the car stays almost silent outside it is fine.
What a desperate attempt to get people on to EV. I'll stick with my Diesel, with DPF ripped out and EGR blanked 😊
After buying a corsa e from new I'm not going to bother going electric till i don't have a choice.
Public charging is a rip off and crap the further north you go. I have a home charger but the odd time I've had to public charge it's been way to expensive!
The worst thing about an EV which no one talks about is depreciation! My corsa e PCP ends at the end of next year and is already worth way less than the optional (balloon) payment!
I'll go petrol for my next car until it becomes a better option financially and practically.
I'll let others be the guinea pigs.
I did consider a second hand EV but most have a 8 year warranty on the battery which would have ended come resale.
I can see the value of those cars hitting rock bottom once the battery warranty has gone.
Some dealers (main and independent) refuse to take an EV in part ex because used sales of them are so slow too
I have been driving an EV for the last 20 years, starting with a PSA 106 electric, now driving a Tesla model 3 AWD since 2018 with no plan to change until it dies (or I die !). And it has always been perfect. But I do not live in the UK, in France I have plenty of chargers all around me with quite affordable prices. Not to mention it costs me 1.5 € per 100 km when I charge at home so 95% of the time. So maybe you should lobby your government about the charging infrastructure if you want some progresses. Regarding depreciation, cars are indeed not an investment, nothing new, if you want to minimize depreciation (or event profit of depreciation) just buy a second hand EV. Or if you buy a brand new EV, just keep it as long as it matches your needs, if you see the car market as fast fashion you will just be another victim of planned obsolescence. Up to you.
Did you not have the option to lease ? The reason for the massive depreciation is that you can lease a Corsa e for £211 a month.
@MrDuncl you couldn't when I bought mine several years ago, I pay £230 a month on PCP
Lease deal was £240a month with the same up front cost
I was hoping it would be worth at least £1k to £2k more than the balloon payment at the end.
It's worth what the balloon payment will be at the end of next year currently on trade in!
@@MrDuncl Depreciation comes from the fact that people now view cars as a fashion item, thanks to automakers making small changes every years. Idem for "journalists" blaming models that stay the same over the years. It is just another kind of planned obsolescence. I keep my cars till they do not anymore meet my needs, so most of the time until they die. My previous EV was a "106 electric" produced in the 90, and since 2018 I drive a model 3 and I plan to drive it as long as possible. Sure I could sell it and buy a new EV, but why ?
No we DONT all want it because its an EV, and Renault (Dacia) is a junk brand 🙂
So what's a good car brand then?
Good little car but its taken too long to come to market and expectations have been somewhat deflated. Price is the best thing about the car but charging speed is disappointing.
Charging is not just about max power, and 100 kW is not bad. The real world charging speed also depends on the battery automatic conditioning, a good charging curve and a good planing tool and Google automotive is very good. So this R5 with 50 kW should be fine for long trips. But of course a 60 kWh Megane will be more suitable for frequent long trips, or the 80+ kWh Scenic, or any Tesla . And of course, on a daily basis, charging any EV just takes 4 seconds, eg the time to plug. And even for a long trip, the car is often ready to continue before the driver and the passengers so charging also just takes 4 seconds of your time, while fueling a petrol cars takes at lest 5 minutes and is quite disgusting. At least it is my experience in Europe and Ireland, I haven't been driving so much with my EV in UK since I am more used to come visit by train (from France).
Make mine a petrol.
Your driving position is dangerous,your arms are too stretched out and going around those corners made me wince please take heed
The camera is on wide and just by my left shoulder, so it appears that my arms are a lot further stretch than they are. No need to wince, I’m close enough.
For £23k what you want that or a b8.5 Audi rs4?.
I wouldn't pay £9,995 for that!!.
I'd take the R5, Audis have an image problem these days.
@@MrHabushi not Basing it on image I'm Basing it on the price.
I just checked on Autotrader and you can get an RS4 for £12995. 178000 miles though so you aren't comparing like with like.
I would not pay 5k for an Audi, never mind 10k for some crappy Audi.
What garbage 250 miles, can't even make it to London and back
If you drive 400 km without any break you are just dangerous, but you may think you are different. BTW why going to London if you do not plan to stay their at least 30 minutes ? But sure, some people need more range, and it may be your case, that's why automakers don't sell just one model, the Megane E Tech has 470 km WLTP range and the Scenic E Tech more than 600 km. And there are of course other brands, the new model 3 available in Europe (at least in France) has more than 700 km WLTP of range, diapers not included.
@@didierpuzenat7280 nobody has 30 mins to waste of their life for a stupid charge
@@TonyMontana-zl8pz The car needs 30 minutes to charge but it takes the driver less than a minute to charge on a public charge point, and even less than 5 seconds if it is a Tesla supercharger (thanks to the plug & charge protocol). Idem at home, less than 5 seconds. I definitively spend far less time charging my EV than your *waste* time and money fueling your car. But I don't expect you to understand...
@@didierpuzenat7280 stop lying, tesla website states supercharger 15mins 200 mile
@@TonyMontana-zl8pz As expected, you don't understand how to use an EV. I guess you will understand when you will own one, or maybe you will wait hours in your garage at home looking at your car slowly charging !
Do you ever give a bad review of anything? Admit I only watch cars that appeal to me. I've watched other reviews of this car but yours was as per type... Sorry
They only find fault when the next car from that manufacturer comes along. It's all one big advert really.
The cars great. The presenter is rubbish