Racing a Fuel Injected Twin Cylinder Hybrid Dirt Bike!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- We go racing on a one of a kind Triumph Twin Cylinder Fuel Injected Dirt Bike vs Big Bore 2 Strokes! This might just be the most unique MX bike in the world, it really does have to be seen to be believed...
Last year we made a popular video with pro racer Lewis Trickett all about a very special Triumph powered Twinshock motocross bike built by the team at BNH Racing. Things have just got even crazier with BNH developing a hybrid fuel injected version of the twin cylinder engine crafted into a modern KTM chassis. This bike is as special as it gets. We joined Ex-GP racer and industry legend Jeff Perrett as he took to the line at the UK Evo MX championship to do battle with a full line up of classic big bore two strokes. This is Motocross heaven at it's best! Enjoy guys :-)
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The sound is reminiscent of all the Triumph and Norton and Yamaha 650 sidecars I grew up watching. Pure nostalgia.
Edward Turner would be so proud, the first Speed twin was designed in 1937 and it's still a force to be reckoned with. I had the pleasure of riding a friend's Tiger 100 in a Cheney frame, sounded like that bike, and was smooth as a turbine. Great work you engineers, what a fabulous project and hats off to you Jeff, what a chanp.
Cheers Baz, the bike sounds incredible and Jeff is amazed how well the bike puts the power to the ground. thanks for watching.
@@999lazer did you ever take the megalosaurus (megalodon) on the hill climb ?? Lol
Jeff did a really fantastic job! Still got the speed🔥
Love early triumphs, at 17 had a job at a dealership, 73 750, 70 650 Bonnie still in possession. They make good power a 9k rpm.
Have to love you guys across the pond, not afraid to make anything you want!! Sounds great!
We may be over later this year to do a few things:)
The main reason I watch your videos is for the unique bikes. They are awesome Keep it up!
Great to hear that. There is plenty more crazy stuff to come :) cheers Max
It's a shame that honda doesn't combine the CRF450L chassis with the CBR500 engine to make a modern one for the road.
My son put a CB500 engine into a CRF250L Rally bike. Rides it all over the trails in NoCAL and single track. Sheet Iron this weekend. (May 21).
It can be done.
@@dickwest6018 that would be a sweet ride.
@@dickwest6018 any videos?
Having Jeff banging bars on that machine is absolutely EPIC!!!!!!!!
the team has so much passion its always a good day working with them :)
Aw man i gotta respect that he put his all into that race and kept up with proven, tested, reliable Japanese machines with something he built in his garage. He almost got third. Very good rider too.
I'm all about those single cylinder, simple, reliable, japanese motors. But i gotta say that bike did surprisingly good while it lasted. Taken out by a simple wiring issue. An awesome experiment and build. If they cleaned up the wiring a bit it would have won 3rd for sure. The 2nd place victory was great too, but i think if you just put him on a YZ250 or CR500 he would win first place. But this more so an exercise in craftsmanship and the build than it was about winning a race.
Thanks for watching and such a great comment. Cheers Max
The motorcycle companies have straight up FAILED consumers by not offering proper 350cc and 500cc twin cylinder dedicated dirt bikes,, with super heavy flywheels and glassy smooth twins with counterbalanced engines, electric start and the beautiful sickening roar of a 180 degree parallel twin. A twin cylinder engine can be run down to 700 rpms with glassy tractor smoothness, going at a snails pace through the heaviest of brush and trees. You can run a paralell twin much, much slower than a single, and you can also run it at much higher RPM's. A twin simply works better in all conditions, because there are twice as many engine pulses, making traction better, power is more linear, and the engine inertia is much less due to the parts being 50% smaller, with smaller valves, smaller connecting rods, and smaller pistons, meaning less vibration, and much better high RPM performance. But the sound, is the single most important thing. If you've ever heard a Honda CB360 with 34 horsepower. The CB360 is one of the meanest, nastiest sounding engines ever. The single cylinder bikes bike sound like.... They sound awful.
I like the 3 cylinder 2 strokes. The second of heaven! But yes I agree with you!
It was straight up free market, moral free market, that replaced the 4 stroke engine with 2-stroke singles, and the price of a bike went down a lot.
It is government economic fascism/force, that forced the new 4-stroke on the industry,--no matter what the cost.
Twins (esp 4-strokes), are too heavy in comparison and more costly to make. But you make a good point on the kind of power it can make.
I am really interested how the new triumph Motocross Bikes are going to turn out. I hope they go for an exciting alternative route, as they also do with many of their other bikes. (Like 3 cylinder Enduro for example). I personally have wondered for a long time why no manufacturer looks into twins (either V or parallel) for Motocross anymore, so maybe a return of the V2 mx bike like the Aprilia back in the day would be cool. Also but this is just a dreamer speaking, maybe they actually have the guts to build a 500 two-stroke just for the fun of it. I mean if I had to pitch that internally to the high ups, I'd just show them prices for clapped out KX500s from 91 on eBay... If used bikes are more expensive than new ones, one should like to think there might be a demand there
That Aprilia v-twin 450 sounded so awesome 😍
@@dylanduff9645 i would like to buy one some day just for the fun and thrill of it
gas gas just brought out a 500 cc mx bike for the 2023 season. it's f*πking fantastic. gas gas is run by the ktm group so expect more !
happy days if so.
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@@yinyangyin the 500 two stroke cylinder is an aftermarket kit, not OEM
Peter. The AMA doesn't allow twin cylinders, that kind of killed it. You also have to have a production bike, meaning more than 500 are made. It was set to reduce the price of racing. They didn't want the factory race bike to be one off million dollar bikes. It was good and bad. A new bike can almost compete with the factory race bikes.
I would love to see a twin cylinder race bike. I'm also excited that triumph might have some new technology.
Absolute Classic Video boys really enjoyed watching that and the Hybrid is just insane what a thrill to see it up with the front runners you guys are an inspiration thanks so much for sharing mate cheers Happy Trails
It is not a hybrid. The word in the title is out of context, and if we don't pay attention to that stuff, our grand children will be trying to communicate with grunts and clicks.
Some tight racing there, really had me on the edge of my chair. That hybrid is a beast, but when I saw them KX 500's, I knew The hybrid had met it's match.
Thanks for another great video Max 👍
no problem, thanks for watching
The Triumph BSA and Norton Twins sound really cool. Sounds like it is a 500 CC Twin .. Why 1950's technology? Did Triumph never upgrade anything after 1950"
They put an extra cylinder on the 500 twin to make a 750cc triple, and the 500 twin got enlarged to 650, then 750.
But apart from that, no.
Keep it up. Thoroughly enjoy seeing your footage and commentating
Thanks a lot Mark :-D
Jeffs talent and style beaming through the gristle and bristle just as fresh as when he was 5.
its amazing how a good rider never loses their style :)
@@999lazer Yeah I bet he feels 30 years old when hes on the bike but 60 when he gets off it, same as me lol
@@RIPPERTON you're not wrong. Although I'm starting to feel 60 on a daily basis. Come to think of it, I'm only 10 years off that! Bloody hell...
Hell have to treat the ignition switch like the gas as far as remembering to turn it off but I still love watching the vintage racing. When I get my CR 125 1990 DONT I may try to get back to the track myself !!!!!! Good work and AWESOME CHANNEL MAX !!!!!!!! God BLESS YOU MATE !!!!!!!!!
Thanks Gary, really appreciate your comment. Cheers Max
That was some very good racing on a really cool and unique bike. Loved the classic battling. That's some great stuff.
We all thought Bill Barlow was insane back in the late 70s he mounted a triumph twin onto an MX frame. He would blast that monster around Indian Dunes Shadow Glen MX track in So. Cal. Up to the mid 80s.
It had long suspension and crazy fast on desert enduro’s.
I really miss that place! Now no history of it. Just an open field. Always trying to figure out where it was when driving by. A lot of good memories😊
I have a good friend, (62 years old now), who would show up at the track with a bike he put together with wild suspension and such for the early time. I met him in 84 when he brought a Mt. Bike with his front suspension on it for us (Nuke Proof in Michigan back then), to make and sell. He then offered to Harley, (but they turned it down), and today, built and owns a 60,000 sq/ft building and makes all the Indian motorcycle gas tanks and tins, (along with other customers).
It all started when he was 8 years old, and his Mother would not let him have a dirt bike. But he could not keep up to the older kids on the new dirt bikes, so he put together his won mini bike in the garage. No brakes, a string around his thumb for a throttle cable, and his Mother sees him riding around the yard with it. Her thoughts, moral thoughts? "I can't take it from him. He built it." A real hero was born that day.
I met him in 94,---correction
We had some Triumph engined specials in the 60s and 70s in the days of Dave Bickers, Vic Eastwood etc. I raced one for a while, and its underlying characteristic was how quickly it would spin the rear wheel, so not great for grip out of a corner. Lots of fun though, and great for plowing through deep mud with a plume of said mud spouting ten feet into the air behind you.
Absolutely loved it, this is what club mx feels like little battles between people on track that most don’t notice, and Jeff riding real well on that awesome bike 👏
( ps put a little light on the bars to show when the ignition is on )
Thanks Gazza. The UK evo events always have a great buzz to them and this bike is right at home amongst the old smokers.
@@999lazer how about a look at Aprilia's 100kg mxv450 & supermoto sxv550 v twins.. now there's angry
Great job its so cool to see people at this age still kicking roost all over.
I want to make something like this, and haven't seen anyone else properly do this! I'm excited
i don't understand why there aren't more twin cylinder dirt bikes. The Tenere 700 shows you how popular they would be... the t700 is just 100 lbs too heavy...
I totally agree, there's definitely MX potential with that T700!
I am among the oddballs that prefer 2 cylinders over single cylinders. I know that there are advantages to single cylinders but I prefer two over one.
This motorcycle is something that interest me very much.
Twin cylinder engines cost more than single cylinder engines, pretty sure.
@@EarthSurferUSA
I know 2 cylinders cost more than 1. I worded that wrong, because of my bad habit.
Great quality video with good editing and story. Great series of videos you are doing.
Thanks For such a great comment. Appreciate it - cheers Max
That old YZ250 had just enough power and they handled like cadillacs just like they still do!
Great video Max, the hybrid triumph was fantastic, there was a great field of fantastic bikes we would all love to own, is your megladon eligible to compete in it. Great work again max.
Thanks as always Kevin! I'm not actually sure it the Meg is eligible for these Evo events, i think they usually do it by the year of the chassis. But the UK Evo series is very relaxed so it could be a possibility...and i do know some guys keen to race it!
Really cool! Would love to ride it on a course like that!
Great racing, i always find myself moving around in my chair watching stuff like this
Haha, me too. Thanks for watching. cheers Max
There was another very cool 2 cylinder off road bike: Yamaha TDR 250, 2 stroke.
Using the similar engine as the Yamaha RD350 with YVPS.
Would love to have a simple fast track like that near me
Nothing sounds as cool as 500 Triumph.
Hey Max, what an incredible Machine.. another great Video like always...you Rock..
Thanks Darren, appreciate the comment :)
Great video! Thought I saw you there filming, that bike is impressive I love watching them and looking forward to round 3 at the weekend!
When you letting Nev race the meg at 1 of these events?
Great video! Jeff seems like such a genuine nice guy!
100% , thanks for watching
Awesome race this one thanks 999Lazer !
Put a motocross bike killswitch on it, so you can't leave the bike, without cutting the power. Really cool bike! I'd like to see it explained!
Great riding! So RAD! That bike is awesome!
Kenny kaplan mentioned ur 700cc beast on a new video of various maicos he just got! 👍💙 Great videos
Hi max Jeff guys great vlog and Jeff he's still a champion and great rider rember watching him in90 s and 2000s race GPS racing British championships as well magic 😉 guys look forward to next video
Cheers Chris
describe Jeffro in one word: BAMF .
Jeff is a tuff guy👍. Very good rider.
Cheers Larry. He's a class rider for sure.
They should have put an air cooled RD350 and tuned it to well above double the standard 32bhp or maybe you could make the Meg a smaller brother ?
Great video, keep up the great work
Yep! or a RD400 or RZ350 YPVS
Water Cooled Weapon! I'd like to Stick a Kawasaki Twin Cylinder 2 Stroke 650 Jetski Engine into a Modern MX Chassis, That Would be a Frightening Combo! 👍🍺
@@purebloodheretic4682 yes but fitting all the belt driven torque converter (or whatever its called) would be a bit tricky to squeeze in a MX without lengthening it a large amount, but if that could be sorted a larger 900CC triple yamaha jetski engine would be on my build list
In America they tune the 350 twins upto 100HP ,they have them in Banshee Quad bikes, think the kits by Cheetah 🐆, over 400cc of ported madness that wheelies in 5th no problem
What a great bike & a bummer Jeff wasn't able to get all 3 motos in. 🤞 Going forward. Enjoyed that, will have to try to find an evo event near me
Like the guys said it's all a learning process with the bike, i think they'll definitely get it all worked out before the season ends. :-D I couldn't recommend these events enough, such a fun day at the track!
Probably the crazyest dirtbike i have ever seen! Sad that one little switch made so much problems!
it sure is, they are already on the case of making sure the switch cant cause issues again :)
@@999lazer 🙂👍
Jeffrey can still ride a bike great viewing . Big kaplin America gave your monster 700 2stroke a mention get Jeff on it.
Thanks Mervyn. You might see Jeff on it at a little race coming up in June ;)
Man, that cool, I like weird stuff like this haha
Haha, so do we :)
Love that bike almost impossible to go ez on it🤟
Thanks guys and yes please for the hill climb.
Thanks for watching Dean. We're digging the hill climb idea :)
Cool bike and awesome sound. But what else would you expect when you race it with Japanese bikes?
I love your channel keep up the good work it brings back memories.
The radiator was jumping all around, kept thinking it was going to fly off
I noticed that in the edit, it was dancing around big time wasn't it! Thanks for watching Mark :-D
kx500 n yz asserting that dominance i love it
Cracking video Max. 👍
Thanks Phil. Glad you enjoyed it. Really appreciate the super thanks too :)
Would love to see a custom made mx bike with the old RD 350 motor in it
I agree, thought way back of the xr 500 engine honda produced with a smaller botton end and at the time the new flat slide carbs.
Then build one.
This was so fun to watch
Move the switch to the bars !!
What a sound Helt fantastiskt
its awesome to hear in real life, totally different to anything else on the track. Thanks for watching. Cheers Max
That 2nd Moto was lovely!
Good race luv. To see the old bull dogs ride!...🦾💯🤳
You can’t beat a special and that’s one hell of a special 😎😎
Wicked bike , we need to know what there running in that motor as it strong and it revs .... stock piston and rod ? sounds fantastic and the old boy can peddle it !!!!
I thought about the rods/pistons also. I know at one time Carillo made rods for BSA and triumph. Think about the twin electronic injection. This would require strong, lightweight valves also.
He was going so well on the backyard shed built English treasure!!
Ricky Carmichael signed on with triumph last year I think. I wonder if this is what they're working on? Hope so.
Off the track, and much to my disappointment, RC is a moron. He is no leader off the track, and is following anybody who will hire him, like communist NBC, and the economic fascism of Triumph electric bikes. RC is a tool actually, for communism, and he is not sharp enough to see it.
Excellent machine! Greetings from Socal.
Thanks Roland.
Una cebra en moto es una cebra feliss!!
Very nice, great bike, 👏🤘👊.
Do I have to watch the whole video until they say how many cc is the capacity of the bike, or it isn't mentioned at all?
very cool love the concept
Thanks for watching Rich. Cheers Max
hey, how much direct technical development have those other bikes got over the BNH....given the same evolutionary development it won
Triumph makes fast bikes" aren't very reliable tho" 👏👏💪🤙✌🏻🇨🇦❤️ He did a great job tho!! 👏👏💪🤙✌🏻🇨🇦
Good morning
That bike has some nuts I'd love to ride it
Thanks for watching Shawn, it sure is a crazy bike and sounds incredible in person.
I would change it over to a kill switch on the handlebars off position to run position
Super filmik.
2 STROKE RULES 👍👍
Could we try a Banshee engine on this same platform?
Sure you can.
@@EarthSurferUSA I was addressing the Creator but I do appreciate your enthusiasm.
Very nice!
As a real two-strokeaholic, I must point out that the twin cylinder motor, should have been a cub RZ-350.(425cc/ 100 HP!) 😃👍
bloody brilliant 🏍🏍🏍🏍
Thanks Rumpel
You know what this race really lacks? A 700 mega, if only someone had one...
now there's a thought.....
Another interesting thing project.
The triumph sounds like the first generation of the yz250f
Another great vid max loads of info as usual keep up the good work and glad i finally got to meet you at washbrook last weekend and my dog lol
Great to meet you as well bud, keep that little CR twisted! ;-D
@@999lazer lts blag with the little white dog lol u know the 54 year old child on a big wheel 85 husky
Cool Bike, I wonder would the Old '50's Triumph 500 would Out Perform a Suzuki GS500 Twin? Maybe Someone could wack a GS500 into a Modern MX Chassis? But Unless it was Highly Modified it Wouldn't have Near the Power of a Modern 450 MXer! It would be Pretty Reliable though -Cheers👍🍺
Such good people in the mx community, and max does a great job of bringing it all together for us to see.
Thanks for your comment. I really appreciate it.
Is the radiator 4.42 a oil cooler
That exhaust routing looks like it is cooking the shock.. 🤔
Honestly!! How in the world can it be fuel injection with no battery or electric starte!!?!?🔔🔥🙌😳🤯
How many CC’s is it?
Fantastic Vid as usual! I'll be making the trip across The Pond in late June, hope to meet you at Farleigh King Of The Castle, 3 July!
thats cool Marc, think we will be there on the Sunday .
That was so fucking awesome !!!
Thanks. Appreciate the comment :)
@ 999Lazer … What model & yr , was that 250 Yamaha that was smoking 🚬 !! 😂 Nothing gonna beat the Green Goblin 500KX !!
I could have told you what YZ it was if you were not too lazy to post the time it is in the 26 min vid.
Figure it out yourself.
Stone age engine but much more reliable than the Aprilia abortion of not too long ago....top job...
Thanks for watching Marc
im much more amazed by that yz 250 lol
Haha He had that thing dialed i reckon, it was flying! Thanks for watching :-)
do you have any 85cc 2 stroke yamaha/honda/suzuki dirt bike engine for sale
Bring that badboy to A1
wow!
She's a crazy machine, right?! Thanks for watching!
Didn't triumph develop a twin cylinder nicknamed a 3 stroke? Is this one of them?