Yes. At this point, everyone wins. That's the beauty of it. Men can stay MGTOW and women can go 4b and everyone can have peace and finally be on the same page 🙏 👏👏👏
@@globalnationalismyoutubeAnd the rest of the Earth can go back to flourishing. You sound upset like you expect to live another 200 years here yourself lol. You'll be extinct by then too
Lol, and yet y'all are. Not to mention sucking down boxed wine, ambien, and sadly anti depressants like pez. Y'all can flex all you want trying to cope by putting down men but that's the exact reason y'all are alone. Men are done with thst 3B energy y'all exude
Really? because there's a bunch of videos of women crying and complaining about men not approaching them. what platform you may ask? lol take your pick. oh and for your information this 4b movement is virtually a carbon copy of MGTOW.
Aww, how cute a other feminist hiding behind a faceless troll account because they don't want anyone to see what they look like going around trying to bodyshame others. It's hilarious and sad at the same time to see them use these, let's just call them weak tactics in a desperate attempt to get attention and validation in hopes it will make their lives better. Too bad they'll never figure out that it only makes it worse, which is why they keep doing it.
good lord sometimes the internet just amazes doesn't it. To make a statement on an account declaring "you are not showing your face" when there's literally HUNDREDS of video's on said channel showing my face... well you just can't make this stuff up can you 🤣🤣🤣
It's crazy you see it as winning and losing and they're women out here really trying to be safe😢😢😢😢 One of my best friends was shot because she did not want to give her number to a guy and he was embarrassed You should be ashamed of yourself for making this video but I know you won't be😢😢
You said it best. I’m so very sorry for your loss, my heart breaks for every victim of feminicide. I truly hope you are happy and thriving now, you deserve it. Stay safe out there♥️
Lmao. Ya gotta live feminist mindset how they come into a men's space to attack then lose their minds when the men respond. Assigning all sorts of made up thoughts and emotions to the man which in reality are theirs. It's hilarious too that they can't see that all their comments are just easier fodder to show others just how toxic, childish and narcissistic feminists, indeed all womem are
@@MenNeedToBeHeardYou're awfully old to be acting so childish, emotional and seemingly insecure for saying things like all women are narcissistic childish and toxic while you aren't behaving much differently
this is so funny to me. the 4b movement was created by women in south korea and its been becoming so successful that entire 1st grade classrooms r empty in their schools. they have an insanely low birth rate and now their government and men r freaking out because their economy relies on young bodies to keep working and producing.
And yet the entire movement is about 4000 women out of a population of 25 MILLION. 🤣🤣 Even funnier is these Western women who clearly have no clue are harassing South Korean women when they are explaining that reality. Calling them names and telling them that they (the Western women) know better than the woman who actually live there 🤣🤣 Kinda like they literally believe they know how men think and feel better than men do. It's freaking hilarious to see
1) men couldn't care less about low birth rates 2) they don't take teaching jobs because the risk from women and girls who make false allegations is simply too high. In fact, EVERY woman is a risk, and they're the ones teaching young girls to make false allegations As to your whole pay argument, it's a joke. Teachers work on average less than 200 days a year. They have weekends, holidays, summers, and a host of other time off. Yet they get paid MORE on average than police officers and firemen. Ones whose lives are at risk every minute they are on the job. Ones who work holidays, weekends, summers, oh and overnights as well. All while being demonized and unappreciated by those who want to make heroes out of teachers. So, your entire argument is flawed and unfactual. In fact, that's all it is an "argument" P.s. the "wage gap" isn't a just a myth its an outright lie and has been debunked for decades yet here y'all are still clinging to it because well "feels over facts"
@@MenNeedToBeHeard im only going to respond to the part about teachers as someone who’s parent has been a teacher for over 25 years and myself who has been a substitute teacher and worked in a daycare for kids with autism, down syndrome, and other developmental disabilities. i currently work in a mental health residential treatment center for teenagers. it is really frustrating to see people belittle teachers. the vast majority of teachers in many states are underpaid and over worked. in theory they have weekends and summers and holdiays off but a lot of them work over 40hours a week from home and lot of them put in their own hard earned money to provide for kids in their classrooms. they should be making good money that is livable. my parent who is a teacher worked 2-3 jobs my whole childhood to make ends meet. they always taught summer school, did tutoring after school, paid extra for their kids to have nice things, etc. teachers are expected to function their classrooms as daycare, therapy, crisis intervention, disability specialists, and now w the rise of school shootings and other violence they are expected to be okay with possibly having to handle a shooting. i dont care if the teacher is a woman or a man, they deserve better respect and pay. when u sign up to be a teacher u dont necessarily realize u r also signing up to be a therapist or crisis intervention or disability specialist. this past monday an undergraduate university student committed suicide on campus. that is the second suicide that has happened at my college while i have been a student. education is in shambles and we as a society want to blame teachers when what do we expect to happen when teachers are swamped with test scores and paperwork and too worried about X regulation placed on them to be able to address the fact that their 3rd grader is reading and writing at a kindergarten level but was pushed through the system because the school needs government funding and holding them back looks bad. yes, police officers are placed in danger everyday and they are working extremely hard jobs, but pitting police officers against teachers is not going to help either the police or the teachers.
Funny Cause I worked in K-12 and I know the realities and they are the ones the unions want to portray. Education is in a shambles that is true but its BECAUSE teachers aren't held accountable, aren't teaching the basics and are instead focused on pushing an agenda and aren't willing to acknowledge that THEY largely created the problem. That IS the reality. Maybe instead of trying to push their social agenda they could start teaching reading, writing and arithmetic
@@MenNeedToBeHeard teachers dont have time to push an agenda, they have to focus on teaching to a test reading, writing, math, etc. are there some shitty teachers? hell yes, just like there are some shitty people in every profession. the vast majority of teachers are not “pushing an agenda” because if they cant get the majority of their class to pass the test then the school looses funding and their jobs and livelihoods are on the line. this is the case especially for teachers at title I schools who’s funding relies solely on test scores and attendance.
This is insensitive bc the 4b movement started in south korea where theres a huge gender equality gap and the women there are tired and understandably so. Women are tired of relationships and childbirth and all these other things that come with being with men and i still stand by the fact that men definitely benefit more from relationships. No one has ever forced them to be in relationships but women have always been expected to bear children at some point and theyre tired of how modern men are disrespectful and insensitive. If we could live in a society where we didnt have to interact, id be glad
There's literally hundreds of videos by South Korean women saying this so-called "movement" is less than 4k out of millions of women. It is a radical hate movement that DOES NOT SPEAK FOR THEM. Curiously, it's others like you attacking and demeaning these women telling them they're wrong and to shut up. These Western feminists are calling them every name in the book and then some. The utter hypocrisy of it all is astounding, and what's truly insensitive
As a Korean, majority Koreans even don't know what 4b movement is.. This is popular only in some website which is minority. And Korean gender gap was severe in old generaion but it isnt now..
@@MenNeedToBeHeardtypical arrogant American thinking the world revolves around you. The culture in South Korea is vastly different. There reasoning is not the same, Sir.
I mean women did it in Chicago due in the gang wars too,if you wanna play who did it first. But also, women aren't saying their doing this and then whining about how much they miss men so......
lol WHAT! You seriously think women are choosing the 4B movement cuz men adopted the MGTOW movement??? 😂😂😂😅 that’s insane lol I guess choose whatever delusion that will help you cope with the male loneliness pandemic lol 😂😂😂 Women are choosing the 4B movement cuz men refuse to be good human beings. They’re choosing it so they don’t have to deal with the abuse and use of their femininity but you know what? You tell yourself whatever you need to in order to leave them alone. That’s the fucking point lol 😂😂😂
Both groups are kinda weak tbh. In the MGTOW community you have men quoting women about what some women do bad, and calling that a reason to stay away from women. Completely oblivious that the women mature enough to recognize the flaw IS a mature women 😅
Did you see the pettiness of that XY Twitter thread with all of the secret hatred towards their girlfriends. Those cowards don't want her reading those tweets or they'd be homeless.
Of course I am. People don't like hearing the truth. They want to live I'm their little bubble/echo chamber thinking it makes them superior and thus it's their job to demean, dehumanize and dismiss anyone who dares to point out the fallacy of their beliefs. It's not them I care about or who I am talking to they will never change. It's to the men that have been and continue to be villanized for simply being men that I speak to, and they are listening, which I'd why they flame me and try to silence me.
Oh, but they have... from relationships. Congrats, ladies. You've succeeded in unraveling all the work 60s and 70s feminists did Men now understand that for today's women, it's a business transaction for women. Nothing more, nothing less. Amd it's far FAR cheaper to rent than buy
@@MenNeedToBeHeard If you've walked away from women, then why are you here on a woman's channel trying to convince us that you're done with us? Why aren't you at the "He-Man Woman-Hater's Club" having fun? Seriously, dealing with some of you is like shooting fish in a barrel. It's way too easy. You make me feel guilty, like I'm taking advantage of a child. 🤣
@@MenNeedToBeHeard Women don't want relationships with you anymore. They don't want anything from you. They just want you to go away and leave them alone. Try it. Just leave this channel right now and never come back. Maybe then I'll believe you when you say you've given up on women. The longer you hang over here trying to get our attention, I'm inclined NOT to believe you because actions speak louder than words. Bon Voyage, brave soldier. 🤣
here on a women's channel? You do realize you're on MY channel making these comments 😂😂. So either you're completely delusional or so full of rage, misandry and hate of all things make it blinds you to reality.. oh wait they're the same thing 😂😂. So no I'm not going to leave my own channel LOL. As to your attention lol you're the one screaming and raging trying to get mine. So there's that also.. You have a nice day!
Saying things about a person you know nothing off does not give you a winning response. It's just confirming my suspicion that you just say stuff without actually knowledge.
Hilarious coming from someone who's came her and hurled an insult "incel talking" at someone you know nothing of. Oh the double standards and hypocrisy of it all 🤣🤣
4B movement or MGTOW movement I don’t think it’s about men or women winning or loosing it is a personal choice. There’s nothing wrong with a person who want to be married, have kids or date. There’s also nothing wrong if a man or woman don’t want that
whatever you say boss, but in Korea and Japan the situation is pretty serious. Nations literally going extinct within a couple decades because women refuse to procreate. Lets see who gets ahead or wins in this matter.
Lmfao and yet Korean women, ya know the ones that actually live there have stated that it isn't because of 4B. In fact, the numbers of so-called 4B'ers number less than 4000 out of a population of 25 MILLION women. That takes the term statically insignificant to a whole new level. Even funnier is how white liberal Western women are attacking the Korean woman telling the truth and showing their true racist beliefs while doing so. But hey, if living in that fantasy of being a 4B makes you happy, so tell us, will you be shaving your head completely and enshewing all makeup, or are you only culturally appropriating certain parts of the movement? We men would prefer it if you'd shave your heads. I mean, we don't want you anyway cause we've walked away, but it would make it much easier for us to avoid you entirely, not just on relationships if you did. 🤣
LOL because it makes it easier for other men to know. I get that's a difficult concept for some to grasp but it sure would help those men to avoid the toxic mindset these 3B'ers display
LMFAO, hate to break it to you but it's not men who are "dictating it" it's your fellow women. Ya know the ones you CLAIM to be in solidarity with. But as always when western women culturally appropriate things from other cultures THEY want to dictate the terms, the ones that will be followed because THEY think they're the ones that get to be in charge now not the people they stole the idea from
Single, childfree women are the happiest demographic. Single men are the most miserable. And they're always whining about loneliness. Nobody's "dealing with that", we just finally aren't being pressured to make ourselves miserable for the sake of your happiness. So we're doing what we always wanted to do. Much love. ❤
I got the answer lads! MGTOW started over a decade ago. In the past 3 years, women have been vocalising their concerns about it, not being able to find a man becsuse of it. So now, these 30+ single women need a good reason for why they're still single. And many women are going through this same issue because of MGTOW. ...so they jump on a foreign trend from korea (which actually many korean women arent even aware of; its spoken more from tge western side, specifically on social media no doubt) Its a coping mechanism. Nothing more. Nothing less. They need a catalyst. A reason. For ehy they are still single at 30.
The 4B Movement is actually a very tiny fraction of the Korean Population, the issues with Birthrate over there are really because it's too expensive to have Children.
Not even a "tiny fraction" but a tiny fraction of a tiny fraction. The cost is just an excuse. More prosperous a country becomes, more self-oriented people become. It's the same trend that most Western cultural nations face.
Lol, what's hilarious is we DO get it. We simply don't care. Why would we? It's just a bunch of 3Bs (broke bitter bitches) trying to make themselves feel better by claiming its them taking control when the reality is they've been utterly rejected by men. They know they have literally nothing to offer except a toxic mindset, and men see that immediately and walk away. Go have your lil movement. Men don't really care it just makes it easier for us to avoid y'all, especially if you actually do conform to the movement by shaving your heads 🤣🤣
I'm 4B but I'm not against men. I have a few men that are very important to me, my brothers mainly. I just don't want to date anymore, don't want to get married, or have kids. It's literally too dangerous for women out here rn, NYC women getting randomly punched in the face because of a discord server. Just yesterday a man drove up next to me going 40mph and tried to wave at me and smile at me, while we're both driving 40mph towards an intersection. I didn't know this guy. Terrifying.
Good lord, we get your homophobic and hate gay men. You've made that point quite clear since you keep trying to imply anyone you don't like must be gay. To the point you've become obsessive about it. It is a trait of feminism though Maybe y'all should join us in 2024 instead of wallowing in 1624
It's been quiet a long time since I stopped buying in the stores in my hometown so I wouldn't have to interact with unfriendly vinegar faces of the feminist saleswomen.
Well, I always thought a good movement should have the ability to pass it on to the next generation - like traditional societal values and family. This one, is a one and done that'll have to endlessly recruit new members... or die down through time like the Shakers have...
Know what? I'm willing to give it to them. Congratulations, men, you had a good idea. Now let's never meet or deal with each other ever again. K? Cool.
Well said. I do not know any men who oppose the 4b movement. On the contrary, most are in favour. The number increases if women choose to move somewhere else in order to be truly independent.
I thought American men had a problem with American women being independent. I thought American men expressed their disdain for American women saying that they are masculine, not fine fit or feminine, don’t cook don’t clean, are not traditional, are not submissive, And American men held up passports saying that THEY were leaving going to other nations to find wives, So why in the world would American women need to leave and go anywhere else? And since American men hate American women so much, why do you American men care so much about what American women are planning to do or don’t do? You sound bothered by what they got going on in THEIR LIVES. 🤣😂😆🤪😜
Men built the infrastructure that women benefit from every day. Medicine, farming, transport, education, manufacturing (including handbags and makeup). To be truly independent of men they can leave and build their own. By their own reasoning, that should be liberating. Let them be liberated. On another note, ad hominem is an indication of emotional incontinence. Something popularly associated with women.
Sad to think that todays women LOVE to make assumptions and generalize ALL men while at the same time screaming ITS NOT FAIR when their very own generalizations and assumptions are applied to them These women are dangerous and pose every bit the risk to men that they claim mem are to them. Plus the added bonus of them potentially filing a false allegation based on said assumptions and presumptions. Any hoo....
@@queene7206 😂That is also my point, I’ll even take what you just said more seriously. Until then I’m still waiting on a Chick-Fil-A order decision. Thank God it’s Sunday 😂😂😂😂
He the man ! Speaks truth and has women mad 😂 we walk away and they “create” 4b 😂 that’s how they “cope”. Cause hey ladies who builds the buildings you get your nails done in who made the house you’re living in a MAN . Men will always walk out on top.
A measure of a man or woman is how they deal with heartbreak. I was bullied my whole life. I became addicted to books and became a doctor. Be better and do better. Luv ya!!
@@DrJacquelineNunez I’m also schizo and was actually bullied my whole life. You were just bullied probably up to your undergrad studies. I was bullied while trying to do better by going into trades. It’s kind of hard to do that if the instructors mock you and call you the R word because of a speech impediment. I tried college and got mocked there too. I got mocked for 20 years while working a blue collar job. I got mocked, humiliated, and financially used by every woman I dealt with. I’m 44 years old. I’m done trying to do better. I looked at your videos. You look and speak normal. I don’t. You were not bullied like I was. I bet my life on that. I have other physical conditions that I wouldn’t wish on my worse enemy. I got the type of physical condition that would make an average person consider unaliving themselves on a daily basis. I’m being about as strong as anyone can possibly be.
@@DrJacquelineNunez I was bullied because I have medical problems that can never be resolved. No amount of money can ever repair what is wrong with me. I got mocked by teachers, school counselors, other students, even the school bus drivers. I can’t go into the detail of the bullying, because youtube keeps censoring my comments. The bullying during adulthood was something I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. I am now completely numb. Nothing graphic, violent, sickening, or vile makes me cringe. The thought of having to socialize with strangers makes me cringe. The thought of a serious intimate relationships makes me laugh controllably and not in the funny way. Just be grateful I am not one of those people who do extremely bad things to others. I also resorted to my new lifestyle, because I wasn’t getting any respect while working. I strongly dislike getting out of my bed unless I am good and ready. The fact that I don’t get taken seriously prevents me from wanting to be productive.
Recently it seems that women are becoming increasingly… how would i put it? Yes, very adventurous when it comes to sleeping around. At first glance that doesn’t seem too bad, right? Well, I’ve seen a few studies that claim women after having a body count of 7+ have a hard time staying loyal to a single man and end up having an affair. When affairs occur, married people more often than not end up becoming divorced. In which women gain at least 50% of the man’s assets, the house and car (The kid too if they had one). So to sum it up. Due to the 4b movement men don’t really have to worry about marriage and child support. So men win more from the movement than women overall
and yet they aren't. Many of them aren't grasping even when we outright tell them that we are parodying their very own words and videos. It's mindboggling to say the least
How many men have you assaulted? How many have you graded? It's a legitimate question since women do those things every day therefore it's perfectly justified to assume you've done those things as well. But you'll of course deny it. You'll scream it's unfair to generalize you that way while you generalize all men You demand men hold other men accountable (which they, in fact, do) while women excuse, support, and make justifications when women do it to men and even school-age boys. So how about you admit your guilt and that of all women. How about you hold yourself to the very same standards you hold men? Yeah we know you won't. The hypocrisy is astounding
Unfortunately this is bad for the government and our society because it just means less kids being born which in turn leads to increase of immigration and loss of he original society as it dies off. No more America just Mexico 2.0 or something else in the long run. Hopefully you saved up for retirement.
Well the good news for me at least is I did save up for retirement, built and sold 3 businesses and am now semi-retired enjoying life and able to do what I love doing best.. helping raise awareness on the issues men and boys face in todays society. Which I hope is something more and more men do. Focus on themselves, stop playing the provider role and yes plan for their future because I agree with you except I'd argue that society isn't going to die off, it already has we just don't know it yet
Lmfao y'all crack me up with the thinking we care if the go 4B. Especially those of us who have something they'll never have..a happy healthy relationship. These women claiming to be following 4B are in reality 3B's...broke bitter bitches 🤣🤣
@@melchiorlise2466 I have been looking into curries and indian food quite a bit lately! Very tasty, but also quite hard to get a good texture going on without it either turning mushy, soggy or too rough cut. I try out new recipes in the weekend or fridays, and just do hot pots, stir fries or pasta dishes in between. Been helping out with cooking, cleaning, laundry, home maintenance and renovation tasks ever since I was 6 or 7 years old. Its also just nice to do chores together with people sometimes, especially cooking. Its also nice when someone else does the dishes and I towel dry them to put them back in the racks. You can just catch up and talk while doing that. I think overall men AND women that argue "well I can just hire a maid/mechanic/handyman to replace you" are totally missing the point of what a partnership means. Flat tire? Let us both figure out how to fix it. Very hard dish to cook? Let me cut the vegetables while you worry about stirring the pot. You do the laundry in the washing machine? Sure I will put it in the dryer later. Basically just take burdens off each others shoulder where you can. Make each others life easier. It doesn't have to be perfect or professional. Just seeing the person you like get better at what they do and invent new things exclusively for you is just nice to be with in your life.
Yes. At this point, everyone wins. That's the beauty of it. Men can stay MGTOW and women can go 4b and everyone can have peace and finally be on the same page 🙏 👏👏👏
And humanity risks extinction.
@@globalnationalismyoutubeAnd the rest of the Earth can go back to flourishing. You sound upset like you expect to live another 200 years here yourself lol. You'll be extinct by then too
@@globalnationalismyoutubeeh pish posh. We will survive somehow. Society though… 😅
Amen
@@globalnationalismyoutube
So be it.
this man is so delusional, he still carries comb in his pocket
LITERALLY
It's the "You didn't break up with me because I broke up with you first." Excuse.
Exactly...
Women aren't the ones moping about a loneliness epidemic.
Lol, and yet y'all are. Not to mention sucking down boxed wine, ambien, and sadly anti depressants like pez.
Y'all can flex all you want trying to cope by putting down men but that's the exact reason y'all are alone. Men are done with thst 3B energy y'all exude
@MenNeedToBeHeard
That's just redpill propaganda.
lol, all those tic-toc videos and news article I've seen. I have to differ.
Really? because there's a bunch of videos of women crying and complaining about men not approaching them. what platform you may ask? lol take your pick. oh and for your information this 4b movement is virtually a carbon copy of MGTOW.
@@MenNeedToBeHeard cope 💀
Why is there an insecure thumb on my screen?
Aww, how cute a other feminist hiding behind a faceless troll account because they don't want anyone to see what they look like going around trying to bodyshame others. It's hilarious and sad at the same time to see them use these, let's just call them weak tactics in a desperate attempt to get attention and validation in hopes it will make their lives better.
Too bad they'll never figure out that it only makes it worse, which is why they keep doing it.
@@MenNeedToBeHeard all of that just sounds like projection
Ah yes the standard troll retort "it's all projection". Too freaking funny 🤣🤣
good lord sometimes the internet just amazes doesn't it. To make a statement on an account declaring "you are not showing your face" when there's literally HUNDREDS of video's on said channel showing my face... well you just can't make this stuff up can you 🤣🤣🤣
@@MenNeedToBeHeard take your meds grandpa
It's crazy you see it as winning and losing and they're women out here really trying to be safe😢😢😢😢
One of my best friends was shot because she did not want to give her number to a guy and he was embarrassed
You should be ashamed of yourself for making this video but I know you won't be😢😢
You said it best. I’m so very sorry for your loss, my heart breaks for every victim of feminicide. I truly hope you are happy and thriving now, you deserve it. Stay safe out there♥️
Ohhh men walked away from us? I’ll have that in mind next time I’m harassed by one
Another 3B heard from 🤣🤣
Men aren’t even concerned about you.
There just there to F you they’re not there for you .
oh yeah, just saying hello is harassing, so fragile these days...
Y’all walked away? Can you walk further cause I didn’t notice…
@@MacaldaReye 😂😂
Brutal 😅
LMAO PERIOD
Why is he so angry? Men win right
Angry? 🤣🤣🤣 . The projection is real with this one obi-wan
@@MenNeedToBeHeardYour need to respond to every comment says otherwise
Lmao. Ya gotta live feminist mindset how they come into a men's space to attack then lose their minds when the men respond. Assigning all sorts of made up thoughts and emotions to the man which in reality are theirs.
It's hilarious too that they can't see that all their comments are just easier fodder to show others just how toxic, childish and narcissistic feminists, indeed all womem are
@@MenNeedToBeHeardYou're awfully old to be acting so childish, emotional and seemingly insecure for saying things like all women are narcissistic childish and toxic while you aren't behaving much differently
He doesn't seem angry at all. Obviously this video triggered you.
this is so funny to me. the 4b movement was created by women in south korea and its been becoming so successful that entire 1st grade classrooms r empty in their schools. they have an insanely low birth rate and now their government and men r freaking out because their economy relies on young bodies to keep working and producing.
And yet the entire movement is about 4000 women out of a population of 25 MILLION. 🤣🤣
Even funnier is these Western women who clearly have no clue are harassing South Korean women when they are explaining that reality. Calling them names and telling them that they (the Western women) know better than the woman who actually live there 🤣🤣
Kinda like they literally believe they know how men think and feel better than men do.
It's freaking hilarious to see
1) men couldn't care less about low birth rates
2) they don't take teaching jobs because the risk from women and girls who make false allegations is simply too high. In fact, EVERY woman is a risk, and they're the ones teaching young girls to make false allegations
As to your whole pay argument, it's a joke. Teachers work on average less than 200 days a year. They have weekends, holidays, summers, and a host of other time off. Yet they get paid MORE on average than police officers and firemen. Ones whose lives are at risk every minute they are on the job. Ones who work holidays, weekends, summers, oh and overnights as well. All while being demonized and unappreciated by those who want to make heroes out of teachers. So, your entire argument is flawed and unfactual. In fact, that's all it is an "argument"
P.s. the "wage gap" isn't a just a myth its an outright lie and has been debunked for decades yet here y'all are still clinging to it because well "feels over facts"
@@MenNeedToBeHeard im only going to respond to the part about teachers as someone who’s parent has been a teacher for over 25 years and myself who has been a substitute teacher and worked in a daycare for kids with autism, down syndrome, and other developmental disabilities. i currently work in a mental health residential treatment center for teenagers.
it is really frustrating to see people belittle teachers. the vast majority of teachers in many states are underpaid and over worked. in theory they have weekends and summers and holdiays off but a lot of them work over 40hours a week from home and lot of them put in their own hard earned money to provide for kids in their classrooms. they should be making good money that is livable. my parent who is a teacher worked 2-3 jobs my whole childhood to make ends meet. they always taught summer school, did tutoring after school, paid extra for their kids to have nice things, etc.
teachers are expected to function their classrooms as daycare, therapy, crisis intervention, disability specialists, and now w the rise of school shootings and other violence they are expected to be okay with possibly having to handle a shooting.
i dont care if the teacher is a woman or a man, they deserve better respect and pay. when u sign up to be a teacher u dont necessarily realize u r also signing up to be a therapist or crisis intervention or disability specialist.
this past monday an undergraduate university student committed suicide on campus. that is the second suicide that has happened at my college while i have been a student.
education is in shambles and we as a society want to blame teachers when what do we expect to happen when teachers are swamped with test scores and paperwork and too worried about X regulation placed on them to be able to address the fact that their 3rd grader is reading and writing at a kindergarten level but was pushed through the system because the school needs government funding and holding them back looks bad.
yes, police officers are placed in danger everyday and they are working extremely hard jobs, but pitting police officers against teachers is not going to help either the police or the teachers.
Funny Cause I worked in K-12 and I know the realities and they are the ones the unions want to portray. Education is in a shambles that is true but its BECAUSE teachers aren't held accountable, aren't teaching the basics and are instead focused on pushing an agenda and aren't willing to acknowledge that THEY largely created the problem. That IS the reality. Maybe instead of trying to push their social agenda they could start teaching reading, writing and arithmetic
@@MenNeedToBeHeard teachers dont have time to push an agenda, they have to focus on teaching to a test reading, writing, math, etc. are there some shitty teachers? hell yes, just like there are some shitty people in every profession. the vast majority of teachers are not “pushing an agenda” because if they cant get the majority of their class to pass the test then the school looses funding and their jobs and livelihoods are on the line. this is the case especially for teachers at title I schools who’s funding relies solely on test scores and attendance.
we already know they gave up on being a good partner. he’s not telling us anything knew.
This is insensitive bc the 4b movement started in south korea where theres a huge gender equality gap and the women there are tired and understandably so. Women are tired of relationships and childbirth and all these other things that come with being with men and i still stand by the fact that men definitely benefit more from relationships. No one has ever forced them to be in relationships but women have always been expected to bear children at some point and theyre tired of how modern men are disrespectful and insensitive. If we could live in a society where we didnt have to interact, id be glad
There's literally hundreds of videos by South Korean women saying this so-called "movement" is less than 4k out of millions of women. It is a radical hate movement that DOES NOT SPEAK FOR THEM.
Curiously, it's others like you attacking and demeaning these women telling them they're wrong and to shut up. These Western feminists are calling them every name in the book and then some. The utter hypocrisy of it all is astounding, and what's truly insensitive
As a Korean, majority Koreans even don't know what 4b movement is..
This is popular only in some website which is minority.
And Korean gender gap was severe in old generaion but it isnt now..
@@MenNeedToBeHeardtypical arrogant American thinking the world revolves around you. The culture in South Korea is vastly different. There reasoning is not the same, Sir.
@@user-cnksi223your birth rates says different.
@@user-cnksi223It's growing quickly in the US, though.
I mean women did it in Chicago due in the gang wars too,if you wanna play who did it first. But also, women aren't saying their doing this and then whining about how much they miss men so......
lol WHAT! You seriously think women are choosing the 4B movement cuz men adopted the MGTOW movement??? 😂😂😂😅 that’s insane lol
I guess choose whatever delusion that will help you cope with the male loneliness pandemic lol 😂😂😂
Women are choosing the 4B movement cuz men refuse to be good human beings. They’re choosing it so they don’t have to deal with the abuse and use of their femininity but you know what? You tell yourself whatever you need to in order to leave them alone. That’s the fucking point lol 😂😂😂
Both groups are kinda weak tbh. In the MGTOW community you have men quoting women about what some women do bad, and calling that a reason to stay away from women. Completely oblivious that the women mature enough to recognize the flaw IS a mature women 😅
@@yougotOWENd men go mgtow literally because they're weak incels.
You broads choose those types of men.
Did you see the pettiness of that XY Twitter thread with all of the secret hatred towards their girlfriends. Those cowards don't want her reading those tweets or they'd be homeless.
@@BridgetWalker-xu8sw I hate zoomers.
bro you are getting flamed in your own comment section
Of course I am. People don't like hearing the truth. They want to live I'm their little bubble/echo chamber thinking it makes them superior and thus it's their job to demean, dehumanize and dismiss anyone who dares to point out the fallacy of their beliefs.
It's not them I care about or who I am talking to they will never change.
It's to the men that have been and continue to be villanized for simply being men that I speak to, and they are listening, which I'd why they flame me and try to silence me.
😂😂😂
The truth is men never walked away from women because THEY CAN'T.
Oh, but they have... from relationships.
Congrats, ladies. You've succeeded in unraveling all the work 60s and 70s feminists did
Men now understand that for today's women, it's a business transaction for women. Nothing more, nothing less.
Amd it's far FAR cheaper to rent than buy
@@MenNeedToBeHeard If you've walked away from women, then why are you here on a woman's channel trying to convince us that you're done with us? Why aren't you at the "He-Man Woman-Hater's Club" having fun? Seriously, dealing with some of you is like shooting fish in a barrel. It's way too easy. You make me feel guilty, like I'm taking advantage of a child. 🤣
@@MenNeedToBeHeard Women don't want relationships with you anymore. They don't want anything from you. They just want you to go away and leave them alone. Try it. Just leave this channel right now and never come back. Maybe then I'll believe you when you say you've given up on women. The longer you hang over here trying to get our attention, I'm inclined NOT to believe you because actions speak louder than words. Bon Voyage, brave soldier. 🤣
Yes we can ,tf are u on grandma?
here on a women's channel? You do realize you're on MY channel making these comments 😂😂. So either you're completely delusional or so full of rage, misandry and hate of all things make it blinds you to reality.. oh wait they're the same thing 😂😂.
So no I'm not going to leave my own channel LOL. As to your attention lol you're the one screaming and raging trying to get mine. So there's that also..
You have a nice day!
Saying things about a person you know nothing off does not give you a winning response. It's just confirming my suspicion that you just say stuff without actually knowledge.
Hilarious coming from someone who's came her and hurled an insult "incel talking" at someone you know nothing of.
Oh the double standards and hypocrisy of it all 🤣🤣
MGTOW men never seem to actually go. Move on. Evolve.
Lol and yet the facts show otherwise
4B movement or MGTOW movement I don’t think it’s about men or women winning or loosing it is a personal choice. There’s nothing wrong with a person who want to be married, have kids or date. There’s also nothing wrong if a man or woman don’t want that
cope…ok “win” all you want and quit talking to us!
and yet her you are desperately seeking attention and validation from men, lol
No she isn’t. She is pitying your dumb moves hahaha
Stop talking about men.
whatever you say boss, but in Korea and Japan the situation is pretty serious. Nations literally going extinct within a couple decades because women refuse to procreate. Lets see who gets ahead or wins in this matter.
Lmfao and yet Korean women, ya know the ones that actually live there have stated that it isn't because of 4B. In fact, the numbers of so-called 4B'ers number less than 4000 out of a population of 25 MILLION women. That takes the term statically insignificant to a whole new level.
Even funnier is how white liberal Western women are attacking the Korean woman telling the truth and showing their true racist beliefs while doing so.
But hey, if living in that fantasy of being a 4B makes you happy, so tell us, will you be shaving your head completely and enshewing all makeup, or are you only culturally appropriating certain parts of the movement?
We men would prefer it if you'd shave your heads. I mean, we don't want you anyway cause we've walked away, but it would make it much easier for us to avoid you entirely, not just on relationships if you did. 🤣
You’re absolutely right. South Korea has the lowest birth rate in the world for 6 consecutive years. The fertility rate is 0.68 children per couple.
LOL because it makes it easier for other men to know. I get that's a difficult concept for some to grasp but it sure would help those men to avoid the toxic mindset these 3B'ers display
LMFAO, hate to break it to you but it's not men who are "dictating it" it's your fellow women. Ya know the ones you CLAIM to be in solidarity with.
But as always when western women culturally appropriate things from other cultures THEY want to dictate the terms, the ones that will be followed because THEY think they're the ones that get to be in charge now not the people they stole the idea from
@@MenNeedToBeHeard what a sad little man
Single, childfree women are the happiest demographic. Single men are the most miserable. And they're always whining about loneliness.
Nobody's "dealing with that", we just finally aren't being pressured to make ourselves miserable for the sake of your happiness. So we're doing what we always wanted to do.
Much love. ❤
Since men have already walked away we don’t even know women have given up because we don’t care.
I got the answer lads!
MGTOW started over a decade ago.
In the past 3 years, women have been vocalising their concerns about it, not being able to find a man becsuse of it.
So now, these 30+ single women need a good reason for why they're still single.
And many women are going through this same issue because of MGTOW.
...so they jump on a foreign trend from korea (which actually many korean women arent even aware of; its spoken more from tge western side, specifically on social media no doubt)
Its a coping mechanism.
Nothing more.
Nothing less.
They need a catalyst.
A reason.
For ehy they are still single at 30.
You nailed it
Sounds like, "You can't fire me, I quit" type of logic.😂
I thought 4B was a Bingo number....🤨🤔😆
Incell talking
🤣🤣🤣 look we get it you're broke and have nothing to offer, you don't need to keep proving it
The 4B Movement is actually a very tiny fraction of the Korean Population, the issues with Birthrate over there are really because it's too expensive to have Children.
Exactly though some refuse to believe it and are attacking South Korean women who are telling them it's only about 4000 women out of 25 million
Not even a "tiny fraction" but a tiny fraction of a tiny fraction. The cost is just an excuse. More prosperous a country becomes, more self-oriented people become. It's the same trend that most Western cultural nations face.
4B is in USA now
the fact that NO ONE in this comment section can state and back up a fact with a CREDIBLE and RELIABLE source blows my absolute MIND. GROWN ADULTS.
It’s similar to when a person quits and the boss or company lies to others and says I fired him.
😂Woooooooooooooow!😂😂 hurt knuckle heads just don’t get😆😆😆😆
Lol, what's hilarious is we DO get it. We simply don't care. Why would we? It's just a bunch of 3Bs (broke bitter bitches) trying to make themselves feel better by claiming its them taking control when the reality is they've been utterly rejected by men. They know they have literally nothing to offer except a toxic mindset, and men see that immediately and walk away. Go have your lil movement. Men don't really care it just makes it easier for us to avoid y'all, especially if you actually do conform to the movement by shaving your heads 🤣🤣
The 4B movement.
Brown Bears 🐻
Black Bears 🐻
Bad Bears 🐻
Baby 🐻
Men might have been doing ot for years but women haven't.
@@wyleecoyotee4252 Yea women haven't been doing it for years because they've been walking away for DECADES 😂
I'm 4B but I'm not against men. I have a few men that are very important to me, my brothers mainly. I just don't want to date anymore, don't want to get married, or have kids. It's literally too dangerous for women out here rn, NYC women getting randomly punched in the face because of a discord server. Just yesterday a man drove up next to me going 40mph and tried to wave at me and smile at me, while we're both driving 40mph towards an intersection. I didn't know this guy. Terrifying.
How can I who is an antinatalist who practices the 4B principles....lose?....please explain
You'll figure it out in a few years
@@MenNeedToBeHeard lol at my age...I am glad I never had children...the only regret I have had is meeting the men I did...
and I'd bet he has the very same regret so the point?
Good lord, we get your homophobic and hate gay men.
You've made that point quite clear since you keep trying to imply anyone you don't like must be gay. To the point you've become obsessive about it. It is a trait of feminism though
Maybe y'all should join us in 2024 instead of wallowing in 1624
You can't lose with this movement. Single women live longer then single men. Married men live longer then married women. You do the math 😂
Apart from the fact that stealing the idea from South Korea is cultural appropriation.
Please do.
Win
Win.
lol the Korean chick I work with says 4B would let be a thing if they had access to American men
It may nit be brandnew but its damn sure becoming more and more popular by the day. . We dont want men now , more then ever ! No Thanks !
Ok well on behalf of men we're grateful but really you don't need to keep announcing it. Just go already we're good 👍
In the US, 4B stands for Big Back Betty Behemoth. 4B.
Young Men Should Be Taught To Liberate Themselves From The Marriage Paradigm. Let Empowered Women Marry Amongst Themselves 😅😅😅
I think men lose out on alot more then women.
MGTOW = Peace & Quiet, Money, Freedom & No Divorce Ripoffs. Marriage = You Lose
All Of The Above & Get Rippedoff.
"suddenly materialize out of nowhere" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It's been quiet a long time since I stopped buying in the stores in my hometown so I wouldn't have to interact with unfriendly vinegar faces of the feminist saleswomen.
Well, I always thought a good movement should have the ability to pass it on to the next generation - like traditional societal values and family. This one, is a one and done that'll have to endlessly recruit new members... or die down through time like the Shakers have...
Didn't they used to call that spinsterhood?
I think it's called living in denial
@@ronaldshewbridge4295
They call it freedom now
Know what? I'm willing to give it to them. Congratulations, men, you had a good idea. Now let's never meet or deal with each other ever again. K? Cool.
Well said. I do not know any men who oppose the 4b movement. On the contrary, most are in favour. The number increases if women choose to move somewhere else in order to be truly independent.
There are many. And women for decades were always shamed for not associating with men.
I thought American men had a problem with American women being independent.
I thought American men expressed their disdain for American women saying that they are masculine, not fine fit or feminine, don’t cook don’t clean, are not traditional, are not submissive,
And American men held up passports saying that THEY were leaving going to other nations to find wives,
So why in the world would American women need to leave and go anywhere else?
And since American men hate American women so much, why do you American men care so much about what American women are planning to do or don’t do?
You sound bothered by what they got going on in THEIR LIVES. 🤣😂😆🤪😜
Men built the infrastructure that women benefit from every day. Medicine, farming, transport, education, manufacturing (including handbags and makeup). To be truly independent of men they can leave and build their own.
By their own reasoning, that should be liberating. Let them be liberated.
On another note, ad hominem is an indication of emotional incontinence. Something popularly associated with women.
Oh no! You mean we don’t get to have all that sassy toe bottom?
Sad to think ot has anything to do with "WINNING ". Its a personal choice. Also just because YOU left her alone it doesn't mean other men has. Any hoo
Sad to think that todays women LOVE to make assumptions and generalize ALL men while at the same time screaming ITS NOT FAIR when their very own generalizations and assumptions are applied to them
These women are dangerous and pose every bit the risk to men that they claim mem are to them. Plus the added bonus of them potentially filing a false allegation based on said assumptions and presumptions.
Any hoo....
😂😂😂Man have given up on God, that the problem
Typical male viewpoint 😂
Are you the Bitter Bachelor ?
Anything but. Sorry to burst your bubble 🤣🤣🤣
Powerful “Argument” 😅
😂 they think they are brilliant
When women can make a decision of what they would like to eat when asked, then I’ll take it seriously.
That is the whole point… you never have to ask that question again with 4B!!!😂
They make their own descisions without you
@@queene7206 😂That is also my point, I’ll even take what you just said more seriously. Until then I’m still waiting on a Chick-Fil-A order decision. Thank God it’s Sunday 😂😂😂😂
You don't have to worry about that anymore 😂 with this movement. Go get the Pickmeisha I'm pretty sure they don't mind 😂
@louveniawilliast9178 The only reason people like you don't like the so-called " pick me " women is because they call you out on you're alls bs.
Facts!
He the man ! Speaks truth and has women mad 😂 we walk away and they “create” 4b 😂 that’s how they “cope”. Cause hey ladies who builds the buildings you get your nails done in who made the house you’re living in a MAN . Men will always walk out on top.
Nice try😂
I got virtual reality, drugs, booze, weights, and cycling. I don’t need or want a woman.
Hey buddy I'm a woman and got weights and cycling too !
But I don't drink, do drugs or smoke.
@@wyleecoyotee4252 I only took up weed and alcohol in order to cope with women always calling me ugly or treating me like I was a piece of trash.
A measure of a man or woman is how they deal with heartbreak. I was bullied my whole life. I became addicted to books and became a doctor. Be better and do better. Luv ya!!
@@DrJacquelineNunez I’m also schizo and was actually bullied my whole life. You were just bullied probably up to your undergrad studies. I was bullied while trying to do better by going into trades. It’s kind of hard to do that if the instructors mock you and call you the R word because of a speech impediment. I tried college and got mocked there too. I got mocked for 20 years while working a blue collar job. I got mocked, humiliated, and financially used by every woman I dealt with. I’m 44 years old. I’m done trying to do better. I looked at your videos. You look and speak normal. I don’t. You were not bullied like I was. I bet my life on that. I have other physical conditions that I wouldn’t wish on my worse enemy. I got the type of physical condition that would make an average person consider unaliving themselves on a daily basis. I’m being about as strong as anyone can possibly be.
@@DrJacquelineNunez I was bullied because I have medical problems that can never be resolved. No amount of money can ever repair what is wrong with me. I got mocked by teachers, school counselors, other students, even the school bus drivers. I can’t go into the detail of the bullying, because youtube keeps censoring my comments. The bullying during adulthood was something I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. I am now completely numb. Nothing graphic, violent, sickening, or vile makes me cringe. The thought of having to socialize with strangers makes me cringe. The thought of a serious intimate relationships makes me laugh controllably and not in the funny way.
Just be grateful I am not one of those people who do extremely bad things to others. I also resorted to my new lifestyle, because I wasn’t getting any respect while working. I strongly dislike getting out of my bed unless I am good and ready. The fact that I don’t get taken seriously prevents me from wanting to be productive.
It looks like Goldman Sachs predicted the rise of the (She Economy) right.
MÞIEWG
Ya except creating a MGTOW group on riddit is banned. You can't even use the phrase. But it's womens rights we need to worry about... right?
Isn't it called a Boycott?
What do the men win?
The thing that men want above all else and never get in 90% of all relationships.... PEACE
Recently it seems that women are becoming increasingly… how would i put it?
Yes, very adventurous when it comes to sleeping around. At first glance that doesn’t seem too bad, right?
Well, I’ve seen a few studies that claim women after having a body count of 7+ have a hard time staying loyal to a single man and end up having an affair.
When affairs occur, married people more often than not end up becoming divorced. In which women gain at least 50% of the man’s assets, the house and car (The kid too if they had one).
So to sum it up. Due to the 4b movement men don’t really have to worry about marriage and child support. So men win more from the movement than women overall
@@Jon_Fury😂😂😂😂😂😂 your "study" is seriously flawed
Violence and chaos
@@MenNeedToBeHeard thats the most boomer shit iv'e ever heard lmao. Take your meds old man.
WGTOW 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This shit is so funny and sad. The lack of accountability is fking crazy.....women need to learn.
and yet they aren't. Many of them aren't grasping even when we outright tell them that we are parodying their very own words and videos. It's mindboggling to say the least
How many men have you assaulted? How many have you graded? It's a legitimate question since women do those things every day therefore it's perfectly justified to assume you've done those things as well.
But you'll of course deny it. You'll scream it's unfair to generalize you that way while you generalize all men
You demand men hold other men accountable (which they, in fact, do) while women excuse, support, and make justifications when women do it to men and even school-age boys.
So how about you admit your guilt and that of all women. How about you hold yourself to the very same standards you hold men?
Yeah we know you won't. The hypocrisy is astounding
Loooooool
Unfortunately this is bad for the government and our society because it just means less kids being born which in turn leads to increase of immigration and loss of he original society as it dies off. No more America just Mexico 2.0 or something else in the long run. Hopefully you saved up for retirement.
Well the good news for me at least is I did save up for retirement, built and sold 3 businesses and am now semi-retired enjoying life and able to do what I love doing best.. helping raise awareness on the issues men and boys face in todays society. Which I hope is something more and more men do. Focus on themselves, stop playing the provider role and yes plan for their future because I agree with you except I'd argue that society isn't going to die off, it already has we just don't know it yet
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Men: Manosphere
Women: We Must Copy That.
Women had feminism long before men had their manoswamp
Lmfao 😂 I guess these goofys forgot about the feminist group that was started back in the day.
😂😂😂😂😂
Haha love this. It’s a wonder how women just assume this is a legit movement with legit grievances.
Please stay way, that is perfect. And now you want to give women advice? Keep it, when you get a chance 🪩look in the mirror.
Lmfao y'all crack me up with the thinking we care if the go 4B. Especially those of us who have something they'll never have..a happy healthy relationship.
These women claiming to be following 4B are in reality 3B's...broke bitter bitches 🤣🤣
Most women can't even change a flat tire! This is gonna be good!😎🦜🍿🥤
They will just learn or pay someone to do it like a repair shop?
Im a man also not knowing how to change a tyre. 🤷♂️
Most men can't change a flat tire either
@@melchiorlise2466 I have been looking into curries and indian food quite a bit lately! Very tasty, but also quite hard to get a good texture going on without it either turning mushy, soggy or too rough cut. I try out new recipes in the weekend or fridays, and just do hot pots, stir fries or pasta dishes in between. Been helping out with cooking, cleaning, laundry, home maintenance and renovation tasks ever since I was 6 or 7 years old.
Its also just nice to do chores together with people sometimes, especially cooking. Its also nice when someone else does the dishes and I towel dry them to put them back in the racks. You can just catch up and talk while doing that.
I think overall men AND women that argue "well I can just hire a maid/mechanic/handyman to replace you" are totally missing the point of what a partnership means. Flat tire? Let us both figure out how to fix it. Very hard dish to cook? Let me cut the vegetables while you worry about stirring the pot. You do the laundry in the washing machine? Sure I will put it in the dryer later.
Basically just take burdens off each others shoulder where you can. Make each others life easier. It doesn't have to be perfect or professional. Just seeing the person you like get better at what they do and invent new things exclusively for you is just nice to be with in your life.
We can just pay someone else to do it 😂
@@louveniawilliast9178 you’re going to pay another woman to change your tire?