I swear trends drive prices up. The OG hoya heads are the ones really hurt by these prices. I know I am 🥺😭 I love this video, Your realness is what keeps me coming back to your channel . People panic because they just paid rent or mortgage money on a cutting of carnosa lol
I feel towards Hoya retusa as you feel about Hoya compacta. Except I also feel that way about Hoya compacta. Also I agree about Hoya serpens. I really did my best and it never did well, even in high humidity. I would only buy it again if I could keep it in a large cloche or terrarium. I loved that at the end of this, you brought attention to how many things you could buy with that money besides plants that are susceptible to dying from numerous ailments.
You will never forgive me for loving Hoya retusa and sending you that pic once, will you? 😂 I really don't like most of the Hoyas from this list. And I certainly wouldn't buy them at those prices. But hey, who asked me? I have serpens in cloche now, but it's too small. SH helps, so we will see. I won't buy one again if it dies, let alone for $100. And I agree. You could buy the entire setup - decent camera, decent lights, probably editing software, some external hard drives and have money left for Roquefort cheese.
I actually tried one in a terrarium. Nope, did NOT like that. So, growing in a pot under lights, 6-70% humidity. It's my room. In the summer it can get up to 85-90* in here, but in winter, I am keeping it wound 72-75*. Which is way too warm for me, but anything for my cheap hoya. Hopefully, they will all live and thrive. If not, well, I did not pay those kinds of prices for them!
@@bonnieharris8855 I am actually keeping my serpens right now under a glass cloche, but it's a bit too small. I think I need a bigger one. It's growing roots all over the place!
Finally, someone else who doesn't like the compacta 😅. I'm much too practical for that twisted variety. I always think about pest nightmares on that plant🕷🐜
Plus it's really and truly the epitome of man-made ugly pride. The Shar-Pei dogs of the Hoya world, they seem to have been overbred for one purpose only; to bring more suffering to the world - both for being tortured creatures and in the eyes of the beholder!
Nope. I just don't get it 😂 I bought mine because I had 2 hoyas at that time and it was the first time I saw it being sold. You know, kinda that FOMO moment.
@@BasiePlants :D I still don't know why people are so obsessed with them :D I look at them I feel so uncomfortable. Why would a plant curl its leaves in such an uncomfortable position. its like with all the bulldog breeds - they have hard time breathing :D so I get the same vibe from c.compacta :D
I just have a Hoya Crimson Queen. It's my first Hoya and to be honest I do really love it, but I wouldn't go out my way to find rare and different varieties of them just because I love them. Love how they grow, but I don't want every variety out there. Being content to me has become more important than having many plants that I can't take care of correctly. Just trying to appreciate the plants I have and celebrating the growth they have. It's actually helped a lot and when I see a new plant I don't feel like i need to buy it or want it.
You are so entertaining to watch and listen too, and, you’re so right on these plants. And now they’ve doubled in price because people are actually paying the prices. Who would have thought!!!! ❤️
Hi Miro, from Bucharest! I totally agree with you! Hoyas prices go crazy. I' ve read about compacta sold in Australia at 6500 AUD. In my view compacta is prone to have mealy bugs. Keep learning us in a very pleasant way! The best hoyas school in Europe is yours! Sincere and very informative-intuitive.
I saw some Australian prices couple of days ago and I can't believe how much they are asking! It is outrages. Hoya australis ssp. tenuipes 'Lisa' for $600 AUD? That plant is 5 euros in Euope. My compacta only now got mealybugs after year or so of having it. I really don't love it anyways. Thank you! 💚
Great video !! I think all plants are being overpriced right now because that’s what trending, once the trend starts to fade away people will regret paying those crazy prices for those “rare” plants
I just wonder when will that happen. It doesn't seem it will be anytime soon. Just as I think this is it, the price can't go absolutely higher than this, it does 😂
Happy New Year, Miro! Love your overpriced Hoya video 😁 Please keep making videos in 2021 and I hope that Hoya prices come down, but I’m not holding my breath. So far I have not killed any Hoya plants, but would be concerned about buying only one node too. I have lost other plants in 2020.
I am also not holding my breath for that. I am glad you are keeping your hoyas alive. I am sorry about other plants though. I lost some this year too. Happy New Year to you as well and I will definitely make videos in 2021 as well :)
I've had a carnosa and pubicalyx for probably just over 5 years and they are so easy to care for that I recently started picking up a few more. I bought a wayetii and sigilatis a few weeks ago and picked up a crassiopetulata cutting today from someone that posted them for $10 on Facebook marketplace. She showed me her huge collection of plants and told me she had some other cuttings and she wanted to give me one and it was a Hoya AH074. I knew nothing about the plant and have limited space, but I thought that her giving me a free cutting in addition to the one I was buying was such a nice gesture that I took her up on the offer. I didn't realize it was an expensive plant. 😯
unfortunately as a grower and a reseller, my prices have double and tripled since covid. The main growers are taking advantage of this rise in plant popularity. Reminds me of the tickle me Elmo from 1996!
Hi Happy New Year! I just found your video. I agree with you on not paying the high prices for a tiny cutting that might not live. I’m not into the rare or expensive plants. I find the more common ones do not stress me out and I enjoy them. I am just getting into wanting a few Hoya’s. I have been adding plants to my home in California USA since 2012. The most I have ever paid for a full large plant was $32.00 US dollars. Thank you for stating fact the plant prices have gotten too expensive.
Some prices are justified, but in my opinion none of these are. And I also don't think we should own every plant under the sun. Especially rare ones. There are people who are true collectors, but I think a lot of people have these 'rare' plants just because they can.
That sounds like a good idea! I don't know the prices for all of them as some were received in a bundle, and they changed a lot. But it could be good to compare them to what they were and to how much they cost now.
Thanks for another great video. I absolutely love your content. I have one of these overpriced silver hoyas, and the price has more than doubled since I got it in the spring. I don't regret getting it. But my regular old pubicalyx has incredible silver markings, which is equally beautiful and cost me only $12.00 (USD).
Which one do you have? 🙂 Hey, I also have the undulata, and love it to death. But if I was looking at prices now, I would probably skip it. The price went up crazy in the last 2 months. I also have nice and splashy pubicalyx that I like so that will have to do in terms of silver for me.
@@BasiePlants Great video 😀 Plant prices are super crazy, you can buy a full grown adult, flowering sized, healthy, relatively rare orchid species for £20-£30, I don't get it 🤷♀️ also, I'm with you on species vs colour forms. Species are so much more interesting.
I think so too! I did forget to mention that plant community kinda goes through these craze periods. I mean, collecting orchids was an extreme sport once.
Omg I just discovered you in my suggested and you are hilarious! I completely agree with you though, the prices are ridiculous! They’re even worse in the US. A cutting of grey ghost is easily $200-with no roots 🤦🏼♀️ like no ma’am. Plants should not cost as much as your mortgage or rent
Oh yes! And serpens is crazy expensive there. I saw some ridiculous prices in the US and I was floored. Couldn't get up for days. True story 😂 But they are even worse in Australia now.
@@BasiePlants for 2 nodes of Serpens it’s around $80. One of my friends sent me a cutting of hers for free. They grow so fast it’s appalling how much people charge
I collect hoyas as a hobby. In Poland, some varieties cost a lot. Often these are unstable varieties that regress if not properly maintained. Fortunately, I was able to buy cheap beautiful species such as h. davidcummungii, h. incrassata, h. diptera. For me phenomenally bloom and are undervalued. :)
You're right on the money (pun intended). Prices for these plants have gone astronomical. Until people stop paying these ridiculous prices the prices will continue to increase. It's all about supply and demand. Once the demand stops, sellers, in order to get rid of their inventory, will be forced to reduce the price, thereby driving prices down, either that or be left with excess inventory. Unfortunately, people being greedy and having the "I have to have it mentality" will continue to pay these outrageous prices. I saw an auction the other day. The seller said bidding starts at $20 - the first bid on the page, the very first one, from someone who "had to have it" bid $125! They didn't win, nor even come close as other bidders continued to drive prices up exponentially. It was very disheartening to see this. So - you are 100% correct - many hoyas are waaaayyy over priced. I couldn't agree with you more. Have a great new year and I wish you the best of luck in the coming year, and look forward to seeing more of your videos.
It is really becoming crazy. And yes - I was thinking the same. We should ALL stop buying these plants and the prices will come down. But of course, not everyone will do that. There will always be people who will think "Oh now there is less demand so I can actually get that plant" and they will still buy it. I think we will see some price increase in the next year as well.
Undulata is fairly cheap here maybe because it's our native plant 😅nurseries here also propagate undulata like crazy since the price is slowly increasing in domestic market (and surely way more expensive when it comes to export). but well rooted plant with 1 node 2 leaves normally costs less than 15 usd.
Miro, can I just say it's liberating to hear from another hoya lover that they don't like Compacta. I have never really liked it, and I just don't understand why so many people are in love with it. I do like Grey Ghost and AH074 but I would not pay a crazy price for either of them. For Wilbur Graves I've seen and heard a lot of things about it that make me think that it's possibly a scam. I have seen several that start with that beautiful variegation and then revert to very little or no splash. Others say it needs special LED lights to keep the splash. I'm not enough in love with it to spend money on that one. I'd prefer a Pubicalix Splash, or something else. My favourite hoya purchase so far has been Callistophylla and I got it early enough that it wasn't overpriced, and the cutting I bought had 7 leaves, with multiple nodes.
I honestly bought my compacta because that was the first time I saw it offered for sale. So it was one of those FOMO moments. But I dislike them. I wouldn't pay that money for AH074, Grey Ghost or Wilbur Graves either. Yes, splash can increase/ decrease in relation to the light and more consistent light will give you better splash = LED light. I love calistophylla! It is one of my favorites. Now, that's a stunner.
I don't understand why you dislike Hoya Carnosas so much. I have a huge one. I grew it from a one leaf cutting and have had it for about 11 years now. I love it and it flowers regularly and does not need much attention at all. If you let the strings go wild and do their own thing they will grow bushy and beautiful. I never took cuttings from it except for once after a move when a few strings got damaged and needed to be removed. The vines are about 2m long and I am very, very proud of this plant. I am trying to grow other kinds of Hoya now :)
I don't dislike carnosa at all. I dislike the hype around silver carnosas and the crazy prices. Since I made this video, the price for a cutting of Jody's silver jumped to $2500.
I was skeptical clicking on this because in my mind, if you like it, want it, and buy it. Whatever. People spend money on worse. But, the farther you got down your list, the more shocked and appalled I became 🤣
I do agree, your money, you can spend it on whatever you want. Some hoyas in this video are far more expensive. The silver compacta, for example, is $2500 for one node now :) I think it is not the worst thing for people to know that in 2019, before hoyas got some major attention, this Hoya was $200 per cutting. :D
I startet with compacta and i love it. Looks like a mad medusa to me. The sad thing about ghost/silver/variegated plants is, that they are not stable :/ I love your sarcasm btw xD
Ghost are unstable anyways. Sometimes you see them, sometimes you don't. 😂 I am glad you do! :) I am still unsure about the compactas. Regular one included. 👀
I mean... I wouldn't even pay 100€ for a plant lmao. I can't understand how a single node can cost 300€+, it's insane to me. They're plants!! Jesus Christ. I think I'd understand these prices better if they sold big plants for that price, you know?
I would definitely not pay 100 euros for a cutting. It's just not for me. Maybe that price is realistic for some (certainly not these as it increased greately over time for some of them), and if a plant is more than 100 euros... Well, maybe it just is not a plant for me. 🤷🏻♂️
@@BasiePlants ok. TYSM for your precious time and suggestions. I was told to keep in shade. And so did I. And already one leaf lost the splash. Will put it back in sun in the west side of my house.
Well, this was recorded over 2 years ago. Prices have changed since then :) Most of these prices for these hoyas were actually pretty standard in the US, some were even much more expensive in the US than what I said in the video.
So…, I’m late here. But! I fully agree with you on any compacta. I never had one and never will. I saw Betsy’s comment and I tried retusa briefly once but no… I don’t think will go there again (even if that no is not as firm as it is for compacta 😅). Where I don’t agree is the carnosa ‘Argentea’. Have you seen that one IRL? It’s spectacular! ✨
Hoyas like Wilbur Graves do produce more silver under constant, even light, such as LED light. So it can vary greately. I am not sure what causes the silver in Grey Ghost, but it is an interesting topic for research.
Wow I just purchased a small Hoya Mathilde Splash for $20 Aus dollers in Australia which isn't bad as I've heard it's fast grower so in theory, my plant will get to a decent size in the next year.
Pretty sure I could fit a top quality sewing machine, a laptop, a tablet, and a projector in that budget, and maybe even spare some. I truly love hoyas but this is just madness. PS I heard H. Polyneura is also very expensive in the US, but I find it inexpensive here in Belgium.
Oh yes! Hoya polyneura goes for $30 or more for a cutting in the US. It's crazy, it's nowhere near that in EU. I like that you would buy a sewing machine. You can make clothes for yourself in the zombie apocalypse. That is the most useful thing.
And I’m crying every time someone buys a wet stick for 50 or 70 eur… I saw offers with grey ghost for 50-70 in early 2022, so probably prices are going down again 😆
I think you should wait a bit more for Grey Ghost :) I would give perhaps 30 euros for it :) Now, Nova Ghost, and others are a different story. I don't think those will come down in prices any time soon.
@@BasiePlants I have a rule- not paying more that 25 eur for plant- exempt it’s something soo huge, beautiful and beyond say no. One leaf cutting for even a hoya- big no no😀 (because I can spend it at least on 3 Hoya cuttings))
Great video idea, we need to share this to help others out 💪 Those who throw shade should also be spilling tea 😉 I was hoping for the Undulata price! Transparency will help all of us 🌈 but it is your decision ofc! I saw an Undulata cutting yesterday and it was 175 euros. 😱
As always an entertaining video! Honestly what's with those prices!? I personally, don't care for all the Hoyas on this list. I also prefer the colour green over silver. There are so many other beautiful Hoyas out there that aren't as pricey. Unfortunately, prices of Hoyas are going up. :(
I know! The prices are crazy! I would rather rent an apartment in NYC, thank you very much. Well, maybe not there, as it could probably give me several months of rent in some other places. I love just "normal" hoyas. Green leaf and all that plain stuff. I agree, there are so many hoyas out there that are not pricey, but I think those will be pricier soon as well, unfortunately.
Honest! 😂 I could never be mean 👀 Well, I wouldn't want other hoyas to have higher price, so I am glad it's only for the silver ones. They can have those.
Lol in my area, there are a lot of people who propagate these rare hoyas and sell them on facebook marketplace for high amounts of $, I think some do it for a living, but to see a picture of a plant with one leaf in a little plastic cup for $300 is ridiculous.
😂 Well, that is good for you! You got them when the prices were good :D I mean, even AH074 was quite reasonably priced not so long ago. But alas, the market changes, apparently with every minute.
Not very exciting but if I had the $3,000 I would pay for the new garage door that I just ordered. Miro, I always enjoy watching your videos. You are absolutely adorable and pleasant. 🤗
That is still a good and very useful way to spend that money. Certainly better than plants (which I do love to death). Thank you Ava, glad you're having a good time 💚
Yikes. I’m too cheap for this ish. I often wonder how many carnosas people can have. Silver hoyas are gorg, don’t get me wrong. But I would rather have MOAR HOYA than pay so much for one. The video game sound gave me life btw. Am I done commenting? Maybe, maybe not 😂
With so many people selling Hoyas on FB, Etsy, eBay, and other sites, at some point the market will be flooded, the plant hoarding frenzy will stop and these exorbitant prices will start to drop.
Yes, that is true. The questions is, when will that happen? And will people who purchase a cutting for $100 later sell it for $20? Who knows. I think we are still going to see some increase in prices.
Im not into hoya compacta as well 🙈 with 3k euros I would save it and probably go on a trip to Japan or something when the whole global situation is over.
What would you buy for 3000 euros? Cause I kinda want to play a baby grand piano with a diamond tiara now. 👀 👁👄👁 👑
You'd look glorious 🎹 👑
@@TheOrchidRoom I agree 😂 Swarowski and Yamaha should sponsor me so I can make that video.
Probably light setting I guess for half and half hoyas...this way I can than sustain these hoyas 😂
@@alona270 You would have a lot of money left 😂
I would spending it traveling to Paris, staying in a nice hotel, enjoying food and life there! Great video!
I swear trends drive prices up. The OG hoya heads are the ones really hurt by these prices. I know I am 🥺😭
I love this video, Your realness is what keeps me coming back to your channel . People panic because they just paid rent or mortgage money on a cutting of carnosa lol
So much shade in this video I became vitamin D deficient. Love it!
😂 Sorry. I will try not too shade too much, we still need some sun. But I mean, sometimes shade is necessary.
I feel towards Hoya retusa as you feel about Hoya compacta. Except I also feel that way about Hoya compacta. Also I agree about Hoya serpens. I really did my best and it never did well, even in high humidity. I would only buy it again if I could keep it in a large cloche or terrarium. I loved that at the end of this, you brought attention to how many things you could buy with that money besides plants that are susceptible to dying from numerous ailments.
You will never forgive me for loving Hoya retusa and sending you that pic once, will you? 😂 I really don't like most of the Hoyas from this list. And I certainly wouldn't buy them at those prices. But hey, who asked me? I have serpens in cloche now, but it's too small. SH helps, so we will see. I won't buy one again if it dies, let alone for $100. And I agree. You could buy the entire setup - decent camera, decent lights, probably editing software, some external hard drives and have money left for Roquefort cheese.
I actually tried one in a terrarium. Nope, did NOT like that. So, growing in a pot under lights, 6-70% humidity. It's my room. In the summer it can get up to 85-90* in here, but in winter, I am keeping it wound 72-75*. Which is way too warm for me, but anything for my cheap hoya. Hopefully, they will all live and thrive. If not, well, I did not pay those kinds of prices for them!
@@BasiePlants Loved this one, Miro. Love your sense of humor-and your intelligence.
@@bonnieharris8855 I am actually keeping my serpens right now under a glass cloche, but it's a bit too small. I think I need a bigger one. It's growing roots all over the place!
@@bonnieharris8855 Thank you Bonnie. You are a sweetheart. 💚
Intro "it's time to shade some hoya's" - YEAH IT IS!!!!!!!!! WOOT WOOT! *grabs tea*
😂 I am really sad I didn't have tea prepared for this video.
Finally, someone else who doesn't like the compacta 😅. I'm much too practical for that twisted variety. I always think about pest nightmares on that plant🕷🐜
It just looks like it is always struggling. I don't need to see that 😂 But, I must admit, I have one. It is kinda... far away from sight.
Hahaha I know I thought the same thing I just thought to myself omg what a chore no way!! Hahaha
Plus it's really and truly the epitome of man-made ugly pride. The Shar-Pei dogs of the Hoya world, they seem to have been overbred for one purpose only; to bring more suffering to the world - both for being tortured creatures and in the eyes of the beholder!
My compacta was a mealy bug magnet so it went bye bye.
@@amberclear7016 Yup, that would be adding insult to injury in this case.
Your videos are always informative. And this one was fun! Love your sense of humor.
I am glad you enjoyed it! :)
Hello Miro,
I enjoy your videos so much! You have a great sense of humor. I’m looking forward for your next one 😀
I am happy you enjoyed it! And you won't have to wait too long for the next video 👀
Omg I though I'm the only one who doesn't like/doesn't get it carnosa compacta :DDD
Nope. I just don't get it 😂 I bought mine because I had 2 hoyas at that time and it was the first time I saw it being sold. You know, kinda that FOMO moment.
Same!
@@BasiePlants :D I still don't know why people are so obsessed with them :D I look at them I feel so uncomfortable. Why would a plant curl its leaves in such an uncomfortable position. its like with all the bulldog breeds - they have hard time breathing :D so I get the same vibe from c.compacta :D
It’s really had lately to find a really good compacta...so most of them now are ugly...when it’s good...the curly leafs are...amazziiingggg imo
@@alona270 Omg if I figure out how to send you mine, it's all yours 😂
So funny. I love that you tell it like it is!! Loved this!
Glad you liked it! We definitely need to talk more about plant prices.
Again, I love your sense of humor! I sure needed to smile and chuckle today.
I am glad I made you smile :)
Watched this one again. And.... laughed again. Thanks.
I want a tiara now, to wear when I water my $10 plants. 😂 But, then again I could buy a 100 books for $3K. Decisions, decisions.
You would look awesome with a tiara. But books are a good purchase too. 😂
I just have a Hoya Crimson Queen. It's my first Hoya and to be honest I do really love it, but I wouldn't go out my way to find rare and different varieties of them just because I love them. Love how they grow, but I don't want every variety out there. Being content to me has become more important than having many plants that I can't take care of correctly. Just trying to appreciate the plants I have and celebrating the growth they have. It's actually helped a lot and when I see a new plant I don't feel like i need to buy it or want it.
There are a lot of hoyas out there that are cheap and lovely to have. I wouldn't pay for any of these in the video 😂 Too cheap.
I like your shady side! Will make a cup of tea to watch your "tea" :P
It's not me, it's the expensive hoyas. Oh tea! I should have made tea for the video. DANG IT! 😂
You are so entertaining to watch and listen too, and, you’re so right on these plants. And now they’ve doubled in price because people are actually paying the prices. Who would have thought!!!! ❤️
The prices are way steeper today than in this video 6 months ago :(
Here’s hoping prices come back down eventually. And yes, I did laugh watching this today! Thanks
I am sure they will. Hopefully, this year. But, I wouldn't hold my breath 😂 Thank you for watching! :)
Miro (spelling sorry) I just love your channel! I must say some of the other people’s videos put me to sleep. I rally enjoy yours👍keep going😊
Thank you 💚 I appreciate that!
Hi Miro, I enjoyed your video and got a lot of chuckles . Thank you and have a wonderful and safe new year! Cheers :)
Glad it made you smile :D Happy New Year to you as well!
Hi Miro, from Bucharest!
I totally agree with you!
Hoyas prices go crazy. I' ve read about compacta sold in Australia at 6500 AUD. In my view compacta is prone to have mealy bugs.
Keep learning us in a very pleasant way! The best hoyas school in Europe is yours! Sincere and very informative-intuitive.
I saw some Australian prices couple of days ago and I can't believe how much they are asking! It is outrages. Hoya australis ssp. tenuipes 'Lisa' for $600 AUD? That plant is 5 euros in Euope. My compacta only now got mealybugs after year or so of having it. I really don't love it anyways. Thank you! 💚
Your videos crack me up so much! Love the non-specific hand motions to describe the crazy H. carnosa compacta!! (P.s. I completely agree)
That's what happens when you're at the loss for words. xD
Informative and funny video! 😃 thanks and well done! 👍
Glad you liked it 😄
Great video !! I think all plants are being overpriced right now because that’s what trending, once the trend starts to fade away people will regret paying those crazy prices for those “rare” plants
I just wonder when will that happen. It doesn't seem it will be anytime soon. Just as I think this is it, the price can't go absolutely higher than this, it does 😂
Happy New Year, Miro! Love your overpriced Hoya video 😁 Please keep making videos in 2021 and I hope that Hoya prices come down, but I’m not holding my breath. So far I have not killed any Hoya plants, but would be concerned about buying only one node too. I have lost other plants in 2020.
I am also not holding my breath for that. I am glad you are keeping your hoyas alive. I am sorry about other plants though. I lost some this year too. Happy New Year to you as well and I will definitely make videos in 2021 as well :)
So glad I started my hoya collection almost 3 years ago 🤓 when they were affordable 🙃
Even the ones that used to be cheap are expensive. I paid $16 for my meredithii, and recenly I saw it for $170. And I bought mine only last year.
Holy crap! $16 for a meredithii 🤯
I've had a carnosa and pubicalyx for probably just over 5 years and they are so easy to care for that I recently started picking up a few more. I bought a wayetii and sigilatis a few weeks ago and picked up a crassiopetulata cutting today from someone that posted them for $10 on Facebook marketplace. She showed me her huge collection of plants and told me she had some other cuttings and she wanted to give me one and it was a Hoya AH074. I knew nothing about the plant and have limited space, but I thought that her giving me a free cutting in addition to the one I was buying was such a nice gesture that I took her up on the offer. I didn't realize it was an expensive plant. 😯
Another great vid, love your content, always cheers me up ☺️
I am glad to hear that!
unfortunately as a grower and a reseller, my prices have double and tripled since covid. The main growers are taking advantage of this rise in plant popularity. Reminds me of the tickle me Elmo from 1996!
That is sad to hear. I am aware this is happening, but I don't think it's only COVID related. But COVID does take a big part in it, that's for sure.
Do you remember Cabbage Patch Dolls?
Hi Happy New Year! I just found your video. I agree with you on not paying the high prices for a tiny cutting that might not live. I’m not into the rare or expensive plants. I find the more common ones do not stress me out and I enjoy them.
I am just getting into wanting a few Hoya’s. I have been adding plants to my home in California USA since 2012. The most I have ever paid for a full large plant was $32.00 US dollars. Thank you for stating fact the plant prices have gotten too expensive.
Some prices are justified, but in my opinion none of these are. And I also don't think we should own every plant under the sun. Especially rare ones. There are people who are true collectors, but I think a lot of people have these 'rare' plants just because they can.
Thank you Miro. Might be good too if you have a video on hoyas in your collection and what we should expect to pay
That sounds like a good idea! I don't know the prices for all of them as some were received in a bundle, and they changed a lot. But it could be good to compare them to what they were and to how much they cost now.
this was SO FUN, love you! and it would totally buy a golden clarinet with Swarovski buttons
I once tried to learn how to play a clarinet. How the heck do you get a sound out of it?! It wouldn't even make a peep for me.
@@BasiePlants you actually play this instrument because you want to suffer (or you dad wants you to entry the church musicians)
@@karatefishman It all makes sense now 😂
Very interesting and fun to watch, I take cuttings of plants from work. I have two Hoya's that are cuttings, growing great and we're free.
Free plants are the best plants.
Thanks for another great video. I absolutely love your content. I have one of these overpriced silver hoyas, and the price has more than doubled since I got it in the spring. I don't regret getting it. But my regular old pubicalyx has incredible silver markings, which is equally beautiful and cost me only $12.00 (USD).
Which one do you have? 🙂 Hey, I also have the undulata, and love it to death. But if I was looking at prices now, I would probably skip it. The price went up crazy in the last 2 months. I also have nice and splashy pubicalyx that I like so that will have to do in terms of silver for me.
@@BasiePlants I have a nova ghost. It came with 4 leaves and several nodes. It is growing really well for me, and I love the fuzzy silver leaves.
@@katyaleblanc5418 I am glad you enjoy it :) I will enjoy it in 10 years or so when the price goes down 😂
@@BasiePlants I have 3 Publicalyx, Red Buttons, Royal Hawaiian, Silver splash, I love them they were cheap when I got them,now they're ridiclous😨
Brilliant, a real artist Miro Thank you 💕
The artist thanks you very much for that kind comment. 😂💚
You are soo funny. The best plant tuber 💚🌿
You are way too sweet 😭💚
I love you 😍 you are so funny 🤣 happy new year !
Thank you for that nice comment! Happy New Year to you as well 🥳
I love the compacta!! I'd love another one!!
Many people do :D I think there are more interesting ones out there :)
I'm here for your shady hoya chat 😉💗
Well, tbh, they deserved it. 😂
@@BasiePlants Great video 😀 Plant prices are super crazy, you can buy a full grown adult, flowering sized, healthy, relatively rare orchid species for £20-£30, I don't get it 🤷♀️ also, I'm with you on species vs colour forms. Species are so much more interesting.
I think so too! I did forget to mention that plant community kinda goes through these craze periods. I mean, collecting orchids was an extreme sport once.
I've been wanting a H. Mathilde sooo badly!! I'm just waiting for them to come down to my price range. I think I'd go on vacation for that $3000!
Vacation is a great idea! Once the world stops ending 🙃 'Mathilde' is so cheap in Europe!
Omg I just discovered you in my suggested and you are hilarious! I completely agree with you though, the prices are ridiculous! They’re even worse in the US. A cutting of grey ghost is easily $200-with no roots 🤦🏼♀️ like no ma’am. Plants should not cost as much as your mortgage or rent
Oh yes! And serpens is crazy expensive there. I saw some ridiculous prices in the US and I was floored. Couldn't get up for days. True story 😂 But they are even worse in Australia now.
@@BasiePlants for 2 nodes of Serpens it’s around $80. One of my friends sent me a cutting of hers for free. They grow so fast it’s appalling how much people charge
@@plantymomma3980 Ouch. That's a pricey serpens. I would pass 😂 Maybe for $8.
I love your channel!! ❤️
I collect hoyas as a hobby. In Poland, some varieties cost a lot. Often these are unstable varieties that regress if not properly maintained. Fortunately, I was able to buy cheap beautiful species such as h. davidcummungii, h. incrassata, h. diptera. For me phenomenally bloom and are undervalued. :)
A lot of them are so underappreciated! But I like it that way, it means I can (still) afford them.
I live for the sarcasm in this video
On the other hand, I died because of the prices. 👁👄👁
You're right on the money (pun intended). Prices for these plants have gone astronomical. Until people stop paying these ridiculous prices the prices will continue to increase. It's all about supply and demand. Once the demand stops, sellers, in order to get rid of their inventory, will be forced to reduce the price, thereby driving prices down, either that or be left with excess inventory. Unfortunately, people being greedy and having the "I have to have it mentality" will continue to pay these outrageous prices.
I saw an auction the other day. The seller said bidding starts at $20 - the first bid on the page, the very first one, from someone who "had to have it" bid $125! They didn't win, nor even come close as other bidders continued to drive prices up exponentially. It was very disheartening to see this.
So - you are 100% correct - many hoyas are waaaayyy over priced. I couldn't agree with you more.
Have a great new year and I wish you the best of luck in the coming year, and look forward to seeing more of your videos.
It is really becoming crazy. And yes - I was thinking the same. We should ALL stop buying these plants and the prices will come down. But of course, not everyone will do that. There will always be people who will think "Oh now there is less demand so I can actually get that plant" and they will still buy it. I think we will see some price increase in the next year as well.
And also - Happy New Year! :)
The SHADE! I’m here for it!!! LOL the Jodi/Jody comment 😆
New subbie, love your content! 🤗💕
😎 Well, they should really agree on the spelling 👀 Thank you for subscribing! 💚
Undulata is fairly cheap here maybe because it's our native plant 😅nurseries here also propagate undulata like crazy since the price is slowly increasing in domestic market (and surely way more expensive when it comes to export). but well rooted plant with 1 node 2 leaves normally costs less than 15 usd.
Miro, can I just say it's liberating to hear from another hoya lover that they don't like Compacta. I have never really liked it, and I just don't understand why so many people are in love with it. I do like Grey Ghost and AH074 but I would not pay a crazy price for either of them. For Wilbur Graves I've seen and heard a lot of things about it that make me think that it's possibly a scam. I have seen several that start with that beautiful variegation and then revert to very little or no splash. Others say it needs special LED lights to keep the splash. I'm not enough in love with it to spend money on that one. I'd prefer a Pubicalix Splash, or something else. My favourite hoya purchase so far has been Callistophylla and I got it early enough that it wasn't overpriced, and the cutting I bought had 7 leaves, with multiple nodes.
I honestly bought my compacta because that was the first time I saw it offered for sale. So it was one of those FOMO moments. But I dislike them. I wouldn't pay that money for AH074, Grey Ghost or Wilbur Graves either. Yes, splash can increase/ decrease in relation to the light and more consistent light will give you better splash = LED light. I love calistophylla! It is one of my favorites. Now, that's a stunner.
You shoulda worn shades for your shade. 😂 But I love the new glasses.
Oh, I broke my shades! Sadly. Another glass purchase I need to make 😂
I don't understand why you dislike Hoya Carnosas so much. I have a huge one. I grew it from a one leaf cutting and have had it for about 11 years now. I love it and it flowers regularly and does not need much attention at all. If you let the strings go wild and do their own thing they will grow bushy and beautiful. I never took cuttings from it except for once after a move when a few strings got damaged and needed to be removed. The vines are about 2m long and I am very, very proud of this plant. I am trying to grow other kinds of Hoya now :)
I don't dislike carnosa at all. I dislike the hype around silver carnosas and the crazy prices. Since I made this video, the price for a cutting of Jody's silver jumped to $2500.
Honestly my plain green carnosa is more beautiful than these carnosa variants and it cost $15
Yup. I will keep my regular carnosas and the money 😂
I’ve got a 13 dollar krimson princess in 8” pot. It’s huge. It was cheap. It’s easy care. Win win.
I hear that
I was skeptical clicking on this because in my mind, if you like it, want it, and buy it. Whatever. People spend money on worse. But, the farther you got down your list, the more shocked and appalled I became 🤣
I do agree, your money, you can spend it on whatever you want. Some hoyas in this video are far more expensive. The silver compacta, for example, is $2500 for one node now :) I think it is not the worst thing for people to know that in 2019, before hoyas got some major attention, this Hoya was $200 per cutting. :D
You are so very funny! Thanks for making me laugh, Miro! If I could, I'd buy you a baby grand piano.
I startet with compacta and i love it. Looks like a mad medusa to me. The sad thing about ghost/silver/variegated plants is, that they are not stable :/ I love your sarcasm btw xD
Ghost are unstable anyways. Sometimes you see them, sometimes you don't. 😂 I am glad you do! :) I am still unsure about the compactas. Regular one included. 👀
Miro I would LOVE an updated version in 2022 🤭
Would love to see a comparison with what prices are now…less then a year later and most of these are drastically higher!
They are drastically higher! Jody's silver is $2500 for a node, $4000 for 2 nodes right now. It was $300-600 6 months ago.
With that much money I'd buy a gaming PC or more camera equipment. :D
You could probably get both 😂 Which says a lot.
Miro please do a video on spider mites on hoyas ie how you noticed and what you did
I will definitely have to! I should do a preventative treatment soon too 😂
I mean... I wouldn't even pay 100€ for a plant lmao. I can't understand how a single node can cost 300€+, it's insane to me. They're plants!! Jesus Christ. I think I'd understand these prices better if they sold big plants for that price, you know?
I would definitely not pay 100 euros for a cutting. It's just not for me. Maybe that price is realistic for some (certainly not these as it increased greately over time for some of them), and if a plant is more than 100 euros... Well, maybe it just is not a plant for me. 🤷🏻♂️
Hi. What induces more splash in Wilbur graves - shade or sun?
It seems that more light does it.
@@BasiePlants ok. TYSM for your precious time and suggestions.
I was told to keep in shade. And so did I. And already one leaf lost the splash. Will put it back in sun in the west side of my house.
Gosh! Those prices are over the top...here in the USA cuttings are abundant you can find cuttings @ $2-$6 per cutting
Well, this was recorded over 2 years ago. Prices have changed since then :) Most of these prices for these hoyas were actually pretty standard in the US, some were even much more expensive in the US than what I said in the video.
What a great video thanks Miro... 👍👍👍😂😍
I am glad you liked it! :D
So…, I’m late here. But! I fully agree with you on any compacta. I never had one and never will. I saw Betsy’s comment and I tried retusa briefly once but no… I don’t think will go there again (even if that no is not as firm as it is for compacta 😅). Where I don’t agree is the carnosa ‘Argentea’. Have you seen that one IRL? It’s spectacular! ✨
I just love your ‘SHADY’ comments😉😉. I just love watching your video.
Well, if people can demand such prices for these cuttings, I guess we can shade them a bit. 👀
Hs was a fun watch. Thank you for this nice (shady)share...lol😊😊 Happy New Year, My Friend.
Happy New Year! Glad you enjoyed it 😎
Loved your analysis...2650 USD is big lot of money..
I agree!
Miro come to South Africa and you will be amazed how reasonable the Hoya prices are here. Compared to Europe!
Europe is nothing 😂 US hoya prices are insane!
Silver on leaves is an adaptation, so sun stressing would create more silver. It's a con, anyone can do it on a Hoya will silver specks.
Hoyas like Wilbur Graves do produce more silver under constant, even light, such as LED light. So it can vary greately. I am not sure what causes the silver in Grey Ghost, but it is an interesting topic for research.
Wow I just purchased a small Hoya Mathilde Splash for $20 Aus dollers in Australia which isn't bad as I've heard it's fast grower so in theory, my plant will get to a decent size in the next year.
You can count yourself lucky! They are much pricier in Europe these days.
You are so funny. Thanks for making me laugh 😅
Pretty sure I could fit a top quality sewing machine, a laptop, a tablet, and a projector in that budget, and maybe even spare some. I truly love hoyas but this is just madness.
PS I heard H. Polyneura is also very expensive in the US, but I find it inexpensive here in Belgium.
Oh yes! Hoya polyneura goes for $30 or more for a cutting in the US. It's crazy, it's nowhere near that in EU. I like that you would buy a sewing machine. You can make clothes for yourself in the zombie apocalypse. That is the most useful thing.
😂😂😂 love your videos its getting more funny
And I’m crying every time someone buys a wet stick for 50 or 70 eur…
I saw offers with grey ghost for 50-70 in early 2022, so probably prices are going down again 😆
I think you should wait a bit more for Grey Ghost :) I would give perhaps 30 euros for it :) Now, Nova Ghost, and others are a different story. I don't think those will come down in prices any time soon.
@@BasiePlants I have a rule- not paying more that 25 eur for plant- exempt it’s something soo huge, beautiful and beyond say no. One leaf cutting for even a hoya- big no no😀 (because I can spend it at least on 3 Hoya cuttings))
You def made me laugh 😂! I’d rather use 3000 euros for 100+ larger hoyas than just 10 hoyas with 1-2 leaves each 🙃🙃
I would buy A LOT of hoyas for 3000 euros 😂
Hahaha I love your tude towards silver hahaha cracks me up
How about hoya spartoides? How do you feel about that? A cutitmg is sold for $200-$300 here in the US. It just looks like sticks to me. Lol
Well, you are not far from it being a stick. It's a stick I like though 😂 $300 though? That hoya was WAAAAAAY cheaper. 😩
Great video idea, we need to share this to help others out 💪 Those who throw shade should also be spilling tea 😉 I was hoping for the Undulata price! Transparency will help all of us 🌈 but it is your decision ofc! I saw an Undulata cutting yesterday and it was 175 euros. 😱
Well, if you listen carefully, I think it's clear I paid half as much as the lowest price I found. So, around 50 euros. 😉
As always an entertaining video! Honestly what's with those prices!? I personally, don't care for all the Hoyas on this list. I also prefer the colour green over silver. There are so many other beautiful Hoyas out there that aren't as pricey. Unfortunately, prices of Hoyas are going up. :(
I know! The prices are crazy! I would rather rent an apartment in NYC, thank you very much. Well, maybe not there, as it could probably give me several months of rent in some other places. I love just "normal" hoyas. Green leaf and all that plain stuff. I agree, there are so many hoyas out there that are not pricey, but I think those will be pricier soon as well, unfortunately.
@@BasiePlantsOther than one month rent at NYC one can start a sizeable plant collection with that kind of money!
@@samias_jungle Especially if you get a good deal on the rent :D
Jody’s silver cuttings now sell for multiple thousands of dollars in the USA
Love this.
Glad you enjoyed it! :D
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I dont think you have a Hoya problem 😉
I would probably buy some different Hoya's but with todays prices who knows.
I don't think I have a hoya problem either 👀 I will never admit to it. I would also prefer some other hoyas, thatr are not on this list.
Yes! It’s insane how much the price in the market these days...simply bec. Hoyas it becomes plants craze around the world...🇨🇦🪴☘️🌱💚
They are worse now xD Sadly.
The more I watch your videos the more I like you. haha. But seriously these prices are getting out of hand, not worth it.
Haha 😂 Well, I am glad you feel that way! I agree, prices are getting out of hand for sure.
I totally agree 🤣🌱
Makes one think hey before they purchase from the shady list 🤔😂🤦♀️
Happy new year x
I mean, I have one from the shady list that I purchased. For far less money that it is now, but still. Shading myself here as well 😂 Happy New Year!
Soooo meaaannnn . I like it.
And only variegated ones count. More “regular “ ones for me. I don’t have the sun anyway and they bloom easier.
Honest! 😂 I could never be mean 👀 Well, I wouldn't want other hoyas to have higher price, so I am glad it's only for the silver ones. They can have those.
Lol in my area, there are a lot of people who propagate these rare hoyas and sell them on facebook marketplace for high amounts of $, I think some do it for a living, but to see a picture of a plant with one leaf in a little plastic cup for $300 is ridiculous.
PUT THEM ON MY LIST!
😂 If I had these, I would GLADLY gift them to you.
When you have most of these hoya... thank god I didn't pay anywhere near the prices that were quoted. The plant cost hike will come down eventually.
😂 Well, that is good for you! You got them when the prices were good :D I mean, even AH074 was quite reasonably priced not so long ago. But alas, the market changes, apparently with every minute.
Not very exciting but if I had the $3,000 I would pay for the new garage door that I just ordered. Miro, I always enjoy watching your videos. You are absolutely adorable and pleasant. 🤗
That is still a good and very useful way to spend that money. Certainly better than plants (which I do love to death). Thank you Ava, glad you're having a good time 💚
I think I'll take that tiara 😆 👑
Please don't take my tiara though! 😂
hoya gunung gading is a pricey hoya, but I think it might be worth it!
Yikes. I’m too cheap for this ish. I often wonder how many carnosas people can have. Silver hoyas are gorg, don’t get me wrong. But I would rather have MOAR HOYA than pay so much for one. The video game sound gave me life btw. Am I done commenting? Maybe, maybe not 😂
I will just take a regular carnosa, squint a bit, envision grey leaves and done. I am also too cheap for any of those. 😂
@@BasiePlants The photoshop bit cracked me up 🤣 Or do me- paint the room white and don't cover your plants. I have beautiful white splash orchids now.
@@TheOrchidRoom how much for them Annabel? $100? $200? 👀
It was worth to buy all of them before prices jumped that high :D
I am sure some people made lots of money that way :)
@@BasiePlants I am sure too. These are stubborn plants I am often worried to cut them 😬
I Soooo agree about Hoya compacta!! Regret buying mine. Bug magnet!!!
Mine hasn't been as much but still pretty weird
This had me laughing out loud! With my saved $3000 I would add to my Native American jewelry collection and get more plants.
I seen a one node two leaf argentia on a DOND for $2200
It is probably twice as much now :/
With so many people selling Hoyas on FB, Etsy, eBay, and other sites, at some point the market will be flooded, the plant hoarding frenzy will stop and these exorbitant prices will start to drop.
Yes, that is true. The questions is, when will that happen? And will people who purchase a cutting for $100 later sell it for $20? Who knows. I think we are still going to see some increase in prices.
Im not into hoya compacta as well 🙈 with 3k euros I would save it and probably go on a trip to Japan or something when the whole global situation is over.
That H.compacta is now $2500 for one node cutting :)
What country are you in?
The argentenea princess is going for 1200 on ebay right now in US...wwwttfffff lol
How affordable. Is there more than one available? 👀👀 😂