One thing I noticed is be careful putting your drill up on that shelf. Your hammering could make that drill fall over and put the hole right in your liner. Why no pee gravel or silicone around drain? Also need to put more information on the drain hight. Thats where a lot of people get it wrong. Great job👍
Wouldn’t it not been better to put down some HardiBoard over the subfloor before the leveling compound since it being a form of concrete, it will always have a level of moisture and therefor potentially rot out the subfloor?
good vid man, these comments are full of air heads. self leveler is ther way to go. One question, ive heard you should have the backer board behindd the membrane, your thoughts?
They’re something lol if I’m understanding this correctly, definitely not. you want to cover everything with hardy backer, so the Tile can stick to a solid substrate. Tile will not last if it’s stuck to that vinyl liner. Plus, it wouldn’t be very solid. I hope that’s what you’re talking about. Lol
Depending on which drain you have. Some of the tops come off completely. Then you can just screed flush to the top. The ones that don’t come off you screed to the bottom of the drain which is about 3/8 thick and you should be able to have that drain loose so you can screw tighten it or loosen it Ording to your tile height. Hope that makes sense.
I’m used to seeing shower liners installed then a motar bed followed by some waterproofing membrane. Isn’t this overkill? Self leveling preslope then a mortar bed to slope in the drain :s
Honestly not really man. Water gets into everything so the perfect systems. There’s a video about a old house that’s being remodeled and they used a lead pan underneath their bathroom floor and shower and the shower was over 100 years old when they went to rip it up there was one inch or one percent of mold under everything looked absolutely brand-new after that long you won’t get that with any other system whether it’s a lead pan or a rubber band they are bulletproof. Here’s the link. th-cam.com/video/CDK-eXxykSE/w-d-xo.html On stuff like this, over kill is underrated type thing lol
Even though this isn’t a tile channel I’ve done a lot of tile over the years and along with building pools I still build custom houses hence the reason for the video’. subscribe if you’re new!
I skipped around a bit, this is totally incorrect you have no idea what you're doing. I almost just drove my van off a bridge. You are out of control, Ron Mudd, wrong tools, wrong everything. But that's why there's a whole bunch of future work because of people like this you have a great day now🤣🐓..... oh yeah you forgot the tar paper and wire laugh before your quote-unquote pre-sloped LOL, amongst other things. Jesus Mary and Joseph we need qualified tile setters bad!
@@jonport_ hey man I'm not trying to break your balls, if you really want to learn how to do it just ask. I've been doing tile 23 years. I actually know what I'm doing. It just upsets me when I see people on the internet doing things wrong because then other people watch that and they think that that is the correct way and it's not. Like I said I'm not trying to be a dick I'm trying to help, sorry if you got offended
Never put mud down on wood. It will eventually absorb whatever water was used in the mix. Placing tarpaper between the plywood and deck mud provides the waterproof barrier. To each their own. Everyone does it a different way. Never seen deck mud placed directly on plywood. The membrane is roughly 40 mil.
appreciate you and channels like this. may have saved me some money and a headache from a previously botched job. now i get to rethink my approach
Glad i can help
Thanks for the work! I look forward to replacing that shower a year from now.
Awesome brother!
douchey comment. especially from a sanchez
Did you ever do your shower? Lol
I don’t recall exactly what you’re talking about. Are you saying finishing the shower or something I said in the video?
He's talking about the original commenter@@jonport_
One thing I noticed is be careful putting your drill up on that shelf. Your hammering could make that drill fall over and put the hole right in your liner.
Why no pee gravel or silicone around drain?
Also need to put more information on the drain hight. Thats where a lot of people get it wrong.
Great job👍
Wouldn’t it not been better to put down some HardiBoard over the subfloor before the leveling compound since it being a form of concrete, it will always have a level of moisture and therefor potentially rot out the subfloor?
@@Chase-vr9fp you could or some vapor barrier of some kind.
21;15 if you leave screws in there easier to find through the liner
good vid man, these comments are full of air heads. self leveler is ther way to go. One question, ive heard you should have the backer board behindd the membrane, your thoughts?
They’re something lol if I’m understanding this correctly, definitely not. you want to cover everything with hardy backer, so the Tile can stick to a solid substrate. Tile will not last if it’s stuck to that vinyl liner. Plus, it wouldn’t be very solid. I hope that’s what you’re talking about. Lol
The install is legit, but I kept falling asleep to the ethereal soundtrack humming in the background.😴
Thanks. Classical music is Gods music 👊🏻
You don’t want to do the cement board for walls first?
No never. Water will wic up the board and rot it out. 1/2 above the floor
Ive learned. Expensive lesson.
I get the middle circle frsin but how do you start in the middle snd screet if its a swuare drain and you have to add the tile height
Depending on which drain you have. Some of the tops come off completely. Then you can just screed flush to the top. The ones that don’t come off you screed to the bottom of the drain which is about 3/8 thick and you should be able to have that drain loose so you can screw tighten it or loosen it Ording to your tile height. Hope that makes sense.
like the pre-Slope and liner drain. wonder if pre Slope could be done with a fast dry cement or mortar. thanks
Honestly bro it only took about an hour to dry. If your in a real rush you could use cemental from homdepote you can walk on it in like 20 min.
I’m used to seeing shower liners installed then a motar bed followed by some waterproofing membrane.
Isn’t this overkill? Self leveling preslope then a mortar bed to slope in the drain :s
Honestly not really man. Water gets into everything so the perfect systems. There’s a video about a old house that’s being remodeled and they used a lead pan underneath their bathroom floor and shower and the shower was over 100 years old when they went to rip it up there was one inch or one percent of mold under everything looked absolutely brand-new after that long you won’t get that with any other system whether it’s a lead pan or a rubber band they are bulletproof. Here’s the link. th-cam.com/video/CDK-eXxykSE/w-d-xo.html
On stuff like this, over kill is underrated type thing lol
No such thing as overkill when building showers.
Ya sir. Overkill is underrated son👊🏻
@@jonport_ Saw this as well.. Insane
Thank you chief👊🏻
Even though this isn’t a tile channel I’ve done a lot of tile over the years and along with building pools I still build custom houses hence the reason for the video’.
subscribe if you’re new!
Great job 👍
🙏🏻🙏🏻 I hope I was helpful
thank you
@@Milo-0928 you are welcome
@@jonport_ omg😭 my brother commented that😭
@@Milo-0928 haha. Hacked
Why not just lose the excess in the corners no need to bump
Anything out 1/16th
Like cut it out?
Why is the pan liner not completely flat and why do you not put a silicone sealant around the flange if drain before placing down the pan liner?
You could or you could put some Schlueter caulk but I just don’t I may do that in the future it’s a good point
@@jonport_ keep making cool videos brother we need stuff like this😊
Thank you brother🙏🏻. Means a lot
Pan liner is old bullshit today i use shluter system
Hahaha. You do you. My pan will out last a schluter system any day son
Never seen self leveler so thick
That way you can shape it so it slopes in for drainage
@@jonport_ that’s what the cement is for but hey different strokes right
Sure. The self leveler is about double the psi at 1/4 in think vs the concrete isle you thinned it down. Stronger base
This is not a real tile guy.
Oh do tell?!
16:38 get that piece of insulation out of the way for christ's sake....lol
Haha
I skipped around a bit, this is totally incorrect you have no idea what you're doing. I almost just drove my van off a bridge. You are out of control, Ron Mudd, wrong tools, wrong everything. But that's why there's a whole bunch of future work because of people like this you have a great day now🤣🐓..... oh yeah you forgot the tar paper and wire laugh before your quote-unquote pre-sloped LOL, amongst other things. Jesus Mary and Joseph we need qualified tile setters bad!
Ok buddy. Whatever you say
@@jonport_ you got that right!
Take a hike bon bon
@@jonport_ hey man I'm not trying to break your balls, if you really want to learn how to do it just ask. I've been doing tile 23 years. I actually know what I'm doing. It just upsets me when I see people on the internet doing things wrong because then other people watch that and they think that that is the correct way and it's not. Like I said I'm not trying to be a dick I'm trying to help, sorry if you got offended
Never put mud down on wood. It will eventually absorb whatever water was used in the mix. Placing tarpaper between the plywood and deck mud provides the waterproof barrier.
To each their own. Everyone does it a different way. Never seen deck mud placed directly on plywood. The membrane is roughly 40 mil.
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#vom.ngo
Oh my God dude can you go any slower
I don’t know what to tell you big dog. I’m just doing me
More "show" and less "talk"please.
Sorry. What do want to see?