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How to Make a Garden Trellis

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 มี.ค. 2022
  • Today I make a garden trellis to fit the 'Modern Garden Planters' I made last year as well as sow seeds for some summer colour.
    ITS Website: its.co.uk
    Trend tools: www.trend-uk.com
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  • @brianhunt5353
    @brianhunt5353 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Stewart your DIY channel is definitely the best on utube there's something special about you you have an amazing talent from your idea's to building the projects, brilliant trellis Stewart can't wait to see speedy in your next garden project.

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thank you so much 😀 Although I plan my videos beforehand, I never expected a snail to feature in one of them.

  • @schledzi
    @schledzi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi Stewart! Im watching your videos for a couple of weeks and everyone is very educational!
    Thanks!
    Greetings from Germany!

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you like them!

  • @harrybobs4014
    @harrybobs4014 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Neat simple job. I like the idea of not needing to drill unsightly holes in that new render 👏🏼

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you like it!

  • @Quaker521
    @Quaker521 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wow, how to make planters even better - great job Stewart, they look fab!

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you like them!

  • @paulhoff1780
    @paulhoff1780 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a professional gardener, i totally agreed with your car analogy, it truly is a thing of beauty, and the video really made me chuckle 😅

  • @philtebble4390
    @philtebble4390 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great job my friend I admire your confidence painting over the flags 👍👍

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks 👍 A quick wash down with the hose afterwards

    • @AccountantDoesDIY
      @AccountantDoesDIY 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bought the Titan 1400bar pressure washer recently. Years of paint splashes on my patio were removed in a matter of seconds (as was a fair chunk of my grouting oops!). Great fun to use as well. Couldn’t believe how dirty the sandstone had gotten.

    • @philtebble4390
      @philtebble4390 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ProperDIY I see is the paint water based then ?

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@philtebble4390 Yes

  • @chocothemagnificent1019
    @chocothemagnificent1019 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Always a great DYI!

  • @typhoontim125
    @typhoontim125 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video. Just to say I think the little bit of kindness to "speedy" the snail is very good @10:30. Respect for our wild cousins when doing DIY or Gardening (no matter how big or small the creature) is a great thing to remember!

  • @ClaireRousseau
    @ClaireRousseau 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The trellises look really nice, and now it feels really doable, so thank you for that. I'm super excited to follow this series as I'm starting a veg garden myself this year. I spied some kale on your seedling shelves, so I'm hoping we might get a video on making beds with protective covers for brassicas - I tried growing some in the autumn but it all ended up feeding the local pigeons. I'm glad it wasn't wasted but I want to keep it for me this season!

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, all of that planned and come soon!

  • @dianesanborn6952
    @dianesanborn6952 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great job 👍

  • @MarcusT86
    @MarcusT86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic video buddy. Looking forward to another already. And glad Speedy made it!

  • @woodsyyt8887
    @woodsyyt8887 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The end part of the intro where something breaks is something that needs to stay!

  • @mgabbard
    @mgabbard 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow - with the addition of the trellis those are some really smart looking planters!

  • @stuartdarch2966
    @stuartdarch2966 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s all looking very smart well done 👍🏻

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks 👍

  • @johnloran
    @johnloran 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice videos, I learn alot of stuff watching you. I make trellises from cutting up the big long pallets into strips and then use the nail gun. (Only have one because I'm a gardener)Also the strips can be used to replace the top bit on fence panels when rotten but needs a chamfer edge with router.

  • @simonmiddleton4977
    @simonmiddleton4977 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the colour matches your bi-fold doors nicely. 👍😃

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! 😊

  • @anthonyalbuquerque9321
    @anthonyalbuquerque9321 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Me in 2024😅Stuart brilliant as always😊

  • @simonhughes9472
    @simonhughes9472 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Stuart! I would have just fixed the trellis to the wall, but your idea is much better as it avoids damage to the wall and can be move away easily for cleaning! Excellent! Looking forward to more appearances from Speedy as well! 😀

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Simon

  • @fitzg002
    @fitzg002 ปีที่แล้ว

    would be great to see this again again for a much larger trellis not attached to a planter.

  • @Stu1982
    @Stu1982 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Proper job again mate. Roll on next week, oh and Friday. Nice one

  • @mike1968442
    @mike1968442 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mr. No Dig, would be very disappointed that speedy is still alive!

  • @colinbleach9390
    @colinbleach9390 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent...learn something new overtime you do one of these videos .. love it

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @genestassov3845
    @genestassov3845 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You've got a good result because you have a very nice quality control assistant.

  • @chrishartle1326
    @chrishartle1326 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Crying out for a combi summer house / store in the corner of that garden

  • @gerardlynch9860
    @gerardlynch9860 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Superb. Never thought of doing that before. Although I must say speedy would have seen the bottom of my boot

  • @slowmarchingband1
    @slowmarchingband1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely stuff, very enjoyable. Loving Speedy too!

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoy it!

  • @michaelhannard7342
    @michaelhannard7342 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video, good job this is the UK and no France otherwise Speedy might have become Yummy 😂

  • @567575735
    @567575735 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like everyone here I am a big fan of your films... Reason for this post is the my purchasing the Vaunt Mitre Saw Station.. I have wanted something like this for a while and when I copped what you had there I was onto ITS ASAP.
    I set it up today with my trusty Evolution miter saw and it is fantastic. Please keep up the great work...

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's good to hear. Yes, same for me - easy to fix the Trend to and very solid

  • @AndrewKenmare
    @AndrewKenmare 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice one Stewart and Speedy another informative video.
    I quite like the fan effect trellis, maybe something to show us on another video??

  • @ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524
    @ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect. Need to make a trellis!! Psychic!!!!

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought I was getting this message from someone!

  • @fireblaster9961
    @fireblaster9961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I reckon this dude was a engineer

  • @David.M.
    @David.M. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your quality videos.

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No problem

  • @areyoumad4it
    @areyoumad4it 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job Stuart! Another super job, I did click the thumbs up button despite initially having pressed the wrong button! Always look forward to your videos, keep up the good work!

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Much appreciated!

  • @Stebo1212
    @Stebo1212 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video i could not agree more about these stand i use the Evolution Range keep up the great work me myself being ill health you make some of the harder jobs but in a easier way is amazing thank you sir

  • @pandraus
    @pandraus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to hear from Speedy every week now!

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sorry, he is in great demand now and just signed a contract with someone else which I'm afraid will mean you will see less of him on this channel. I can't compete with ITV wages!

  • @andyxox4168
    @andyxox4168 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’re right, paint the lengths of timber before cutting/assembly then after assembly paint the cut edges also sty your saw up on the lawn and you won’t have to sweep the paving afterwards …
    … and it’s way quicker to use annular ring nails and plenty strong enough!

  • @jennifersmith8589
    @jennifersmith8589 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So so like your videos even more so your garden ones. So this week end I'm going to give the trellis a bash for my self. I know girls are supposed to pain there nails not the trellis but hey. Your videos give people new thoughts new ideas and new skills ,, and I've even treat my self to a new drill from ITS I'm starting to feel like a pro now. Keep the videos coming they give people a lot more confidence and skills 👍😉👍

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm so glad you are enjoying them and they are giving you ideas. That I think is really good - not necessarily to copy everything I do but to pick up bits and tips that you can then apply to your own situation - good stuff!

    • @mrgari189
      @mrgari189 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ITS are expensive - if you are looking for branded items FFX are usually cheaper. Aldi and Lidl also do their own brand of tools much cheaper - Proper DIY used to use their tools until he got gifted the ones from ITS

    • @AndrewStrydomBRP
      @AndrewStrydomBRP 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mrgari189 FFX likes to sell items that aren't even in stock, and then blame the customer while telling them to wait months. Stay away.
      Check multiple stores to find the best deal, screwfix generally has some good deals on drills and impacts, but for other cordless tools go elsewhere.

  • @adrianendacott4811
    @adrianendacott4811 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very neat job learnt some good ideas

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you liked it

  • @Kate98755
    @Kate98755 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i’m making trellises today and i did wonder if you were staining or painting since you didn’t do either before cutting the lumber…😂…i’m making a grid design too…wanted to see any helpful tips, thanks for the video. i’ve now subscribed, i’m sure i’ll enjoy this channel.

  • @flowjo4038
    @flowjo4038 ปีที่แล้ว

    Speedy is happy where he is😝😝

  • @wimn5212
    @wimn5212 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and nice new intro ....
    Cheers,
    Wim

  • @richardphillips3303
    @richardphillips3303 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really great video thanks 😊 👍

  • @MartynSmith
    @MartynSmith 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stewart - I know the real reason for this great video - You have been playing snails and ladders!

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I see what you did there!

  • @karlpopewoodcraft
    @karlpopewoodcraft 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work Stuart, I see you a speedy have become quite attracted 😀 🤣

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Karl - he is the star of the channel!

  • @DeafMaker
    @DeafMaker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hope we will see speedy next week 🤣🤣🤣

    • @Ginwood
      @Ginwood 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm pretty sure Speedy's homeless mates won't be welcome later in the spring however, once all those freshly planted out lettuce plants are turned to just stumps over night

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm sure he will be in future episodes

  • @2CraftySeniors
    @2CraftySeniors 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Race of Speedy for the Trellis. Nice trellis, by the way. But Speedy took the video over. 🐌

  • @cr-ew8od
    @cr-ew8od 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That stuff does well in an airless sprayer

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean the Garden Shades - does It? It would be good if it does - please let me know

    • @cr-ew8od
      @cr-ew8od 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ProperDIY yes it does I did my gate. Basic amazon airless sprayer £30. Garden shades went through it beautifully.

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cr-ew8od Nice one. I'm going to have to try that

  • @harryinhuahin1272
    @harryinhuahin1272 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always like a new/different idea... I've never see trellis fastened to the pot before, as opposed to the wall...

  • @johnd4717
    @johnd4717 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I suggest giving Speedy a role in your next episode of Proper DIY garden edition ;-)

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's getting too much publicity for my liking already - he now wants a contract!

  • @michaelevans1658
    @michaelevans1658 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yaounde cannot beat Cuprinol garden shades lasts well.

  • @777-Crypto
    @777-Crypto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Stewart. Really enjoy your channel. How would you rate your Vaunt Saw Horses? Anything you don’t like about them? What is the width of them, the ITS website has some “questionable” dimensions for them. Thanks.

  • @uralian
    @uralian 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hope Speedy is okay. Miss new videos!

  • @Ginwood
    @Ginwood 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subtle but very appropriate change to the opening sequence, had to be done... green thumbs up Stuart ;-)

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed it

    • @Ginwood
      @Ginwood 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ProperDIY oh yes I did, thanks 🥳

  • @RDR1456
    @RDR1456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That house is massive, what part of UK is this in?

  • @davecotty8351
    @davecotty8351 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant videos, like your methodical approach. Which mitre saw stand is that you’re using?

    • @davecotty8351
      @davecotty8351 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Answered my question later in the video 👍

  • @biffoswilly
    @biffoswilly 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are defoo an entertainer, I dont agree with everything you do but your better than much of the competition on TH-cam - and you deserve the ongoing success

  • @johnbeech7844
    @johnbeech7844 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Stewart bit of a random one but what colour is your gate/fence please? Great videos by the way. Thanks!

  • @biffoswilly
    @biffoswilly 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You will find that you will need to feed the planters regularly throughout the summer. I found that my planted Honeysuckle didnt flower at all and I put it down to the exhausting of nutrients in the compost I used in the planter, that and the planter might be too small now for the root ball as it grows to take up the space really quickly..Any ideas on why it didnt flower?

  • @dwalsh3469
    @dwalsh3469 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m confident old Speedy was keen to get away from the beady eyes of Mr Crow and his crew.

  • @carllamb6711
    @carllamb6711 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Stuart
    How’s things mate …. Great video, that paint you use is the best on the market, I use it all the time they also have a great selection of colours too that’s if you’re adventurous, also mate from your last video your lawn is looking a lot more greener have you give it a bit of fertiliser or is it just natural. Either way it’s looking good for this time of year 👍👍👍👍

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree - I'll have to try other colours. No fertiliser put on the grass yet - I think just long and well watered from the rain

  • @chasjm21
    @chasjm21 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your going to need a bigger pot for that plant!

  • @popperwellb6634
    @popperwellb6634 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Used the cuprinol shades on a planter I made about three years ago I used untreated CLS timber. I gave it three coats of the “shades” and it still looks really good and none of the joints show any signs of opening up!

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice one - agree!

  • @davezeraschi7936
    @davezeraschi7936 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is there a video on how you made your planting up table?

    • @chighton
      @chighton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would be of real interest.

    • @Ginwood
      @Ginwood 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have a look at "How to Build a BBQ Cart". The actual planting up table is not specifically detailed, but you get to the idea

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, it's a BBQ that doubles up as a potting table...th-cam.com/video/18BDXNooE-Q/w-d-xo.html

  • @Mike35858
    @Mike35858 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes you should have painted the wood first, and use a nail gun to hold the wood together, much cheaper than screws and quicker to put together.

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      'Cheaper than screws'? I first have to spend at least £100 on a nail gun - doesn't sound very cheap to me

  • @somewhereelse3813
    @somewhereelse3813 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quality chanel, Quality content, Quality presenter.
    DIY, Garden projects and wildlife...... Watch out David Attenborough!!

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll have to practice the slow, meaningful voice over

  • @andyxox4168
    @andyxox4168 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Think it have shimmed the trellis rather than cut the planter (or put the trellis on the inside?)

  • @John01GM40
    @John01GM40 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    painting trellis after assembly, oh so been there and learned that lesson !
    Would have been appreciated if you'd listed the source of the timber - I have struggled to find timber that makes it economic to build own trellis work compared to buying a premade trellis and modifying that instead of scratch building

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      B&Q - about £3.50'ish a length - £10'ish per trellis

  • @leunglg
    @leunglg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    SPEEDY 😹 thanks for a great video

  • @andypaddon8531
    @andypaddon8531 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video - any chance of something on lawn drainage - definitely an issue for me.

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe coming!

  • @nicholadstoap6944
    @nicholadstoap6944 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    looking at your video about your out side lights would you not use a dusk to dawn switch ?

  • @allyfab4993
    @allyfab4993 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you got a video on how you made your planters? They are fab 😄

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Link in the description...th-cam.com/video/4vGoD-m4iIY/w-d-xo.html

    • @allyfab4993
      @allyfab4993 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much! 😄

  • @Ginty11
    @Ginty11 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did you work out the spacing between the horizontal pieces for the trellis please? Or how many horizontal pieces you needed?

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I measured the spacing between the vertical pieces and just cut a spacer to the same length

  • @The_man_himself_67
    @The_man_himself_67 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For all of us blokes of a certain age, watching this channel is a bit like looking in the mirror. Cheers mate.

  • @biffoswilly
    @biffoswilly 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would have painted all the battens first, cut them up to suit and then screw together this make touching in the ends and screw holes is only job left but I am sure you realise that now - Nice job though Stuart

  • @biffoswilly
    @biffoswilly 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You need a nice weeping Wisteria to grow up the side of that blank cream wall of your house - now thats a nice sized trellis Id like to see you make and fit!

  • @biffoswilly
    @biffoswilly 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You wont be popular if you drop that paint on your patio mate....very nice job mate

  • @seanbarrett9454
    @seanbarrett9454 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’d like to see you build a pergola with roof

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe coming

  • @brianhalse4120
    @brianhalse4120 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great to see you remove the plastic bar code label.
    Drives me crazy watching many Utubers leaving the damn labels on🙈

  • @peterwilliams6188
    @peterwilliams6188 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the fancy bit you use in your drill driver? Great series of videos by the way.

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you. It's the Dewalt magnetic bit holder I bought from FFX...
      www.ffx.co.uk/product/Get/Dewalt-Dt70535T-Qz-5035048088494-Impact-Torsion-2-X-Pz2-50Mm-And-Magnetic-Screwlock?gclid=CjwKCAjw8sCRBhA6EiwA6_IF4WVVx7_zndTeC_4h0Fqs1T0aJ-XNkTUTJOOb89utaN1bkiR1At3rphoCj6YQAvD_BwE

    • @peterwilliams6188
      @peterwilliams6188 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Perfect. Just ordered it. Thank you. P

  • @biffoswilly
    @biffoswilly 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Perhaps water your seed trays before you add the seeds then you dont wash them away!!

  • @ewanstevenson
    @ewanstevenson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much paint did you get on the patio? 😲😂

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A little bit but easy to wash off

  • @kanedNunable
    @kanedNunable 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    whaaaat? you dont throw snails over the fence like the rest of us? :P

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not on camera for sure!

  • @olson.pamela
    @olson.pamela 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos Stuart! Your choice of music is very curious. I'm out of touch with today's music and some of the whiny squeeky electronic sounds are unrecognizable as music to me. I would rather hear my table saw (almost).

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. I have always played a lot of music - from classical to punk so I'm happy to listen and use everything

  • @davegreening5968
    @davegreening5968 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe You should have put wheels on the planters as it would of been easier to move

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      As I only move them about once a year I really don't feel the need to spend money on wheels

  • @John..18
    @John..18 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Diy is great, especially when you have hundreds of pounds worth of equipment,, 😱,,
    Wish I was rich,, 😰😢😢

  • @davezeraschi7936
    @davezeraschi7936 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    First again, how cool am I 😎😎😎

    • @ProperDIY
      @ProperDIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes you are! Next time you'll have to watch it as well!

  • @aaronbell8527
    @aaronbell8527 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the vids but take them gloves off makes working with screws etc a night mere gloves are for ground workers

    • @iainamurray
      @iainamurray 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Doesn’t seem to have an issue and doesn’t want to get splinters or get his hands dirty.