The chiasm is a good teaching tool to help us remember that many biblical stories climax in the middle rather than the end, the way us westerners tend to think. Rather, the end is like the beginning.
I love all the information you give it's so brilliant one thing I was thinking is I don't think the story was a satire at all I think the fact that they said top in the heavens and same with Jacob's Ladder the same verbiage tells us that they were building a ziggurat and they were literally intending on that top portion to be something that opened up the Heavens to them so their intentions I think it was more about their intentions than it was about the exact building they were building I'm pretty sure it wasn't just satire I think it was a physical building but I think it was more about their intention to do ritual sacrifices up in the special rooms and open up portals so that they could come in and and attempt to open portals and reach heaven. There are a number of writings in the archaeological writings that talk about Gilgamesh and Nimrod because I think they're the same person and they were talking about actually wanting to go up into heaven and overtake God and His angels who they saw as obedient slaves so I think the whole idea of the Tower of Babel was much much more about intention.
You think maybe the east-west thing has to do with there not being much to the west other than the sea? Also the east of the Jordan feels increasingly like a wasteland, perhaps the land felt bereft of God's blessing compared to Cannan?
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The chiasm is a good teaching tool to help us remember that many biblical stories climax in the middle rather than the end, the way us westerners tend to think. Rather, the end is like the beginning.
Right on
I love all the information you give it's so brilliant one thing I was thinking is I don't think the story was a satire at all I think the fact that they said top in the heavens and same with Jacob's Ladder the same verbiage tells us that they were building a ziggurat and they were literally intending on that top portion to be something that opened up the Heavens to them so their intentions I think it was more about their intentions than it was about the exact building they were building I'm pretty sure it wasn't just satire I think it was a physical building but I think it was more about their intention to do ritual sacrifices up in the special rooms and open up portals so that they could come in and and attempt to open portals and reach heaven. There are a number of writings in the archaeological writings that talk about Gilgamesh and Nimrod because I think they're the same person and they were talking about actually wanting to go up into heaven and overtake God and His angels who they saw as obedient slaves so I think the whole idea of the Tower of Babel was much much more about intention.
@tressabowles5817 Grateful for your engagement on this!
You think maybe the east-west thing has to do with there not being much to the west other than the sea? Also the east of the Jordan feels increasingly like a wasteland, perhaps the land felt bereft of God's blessing compared to Cannan?
Yes, that's a really interesting way to think about it--if you want to somewhere, anywhere, you have to go West!