My new favorite half-ton towable travel trailer RV for 2024 | 2024 GRAND DESIGN IMAGINE 23LDE
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- 28.5ft, 5,600lbs, 530lb hitch weight, 78in interior height, rear kitchen, 1 slide outs, 3 cushion sofa with recliners, TV, booth dinette, spacious living area, large bathroom, queen bed, solar equipped, 1 ducted ACs, and more! Let me know what you think about this travel trailer RV!
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I currently own the 2023 year of this model and I can say it is a nearly perfect RV for couples. I see that there are some minor changes like the accessory hitch where I only have a bumper and some minor things like the lighting and they took away the audio system for 2024. I have towed it over 3000 miles so far with an F-150 and I have not yet found a similar model from any manufacturer that does as much as this Grand Design that would make me want another. I will confirm that in this summer heat, the AC system does a pretty good job although that front bedroom does get a bit warmer, however I did install a MaxxAir fan in there and tapped into the fam power from the bathroom to help keep the air moving.
What part of the country did you use this in the summer..Curious if that was like Texas summer 100+ heat?
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@@malewine Definitely Texas and Oklahoma this summer. The AC is by Furrion and it's held up fairly well. One particular hot weekend the AC did make a strange noise but it had been running constantly all day.
We have the same and love it❤❤
I have had one for a year. We are selling it now as we upgraded to a 341RDS fifth wheel. It is a great floorplan. You get all the things in a small package. We towed it with our Silverado 1500 to Denver, CO with zero issues.
Awesome! So glad to hear that!
We have this very same 2024 model. My wife & I ust spent 28 days in it with our 2 English Springer Spaniels traveling from Tennessee to the Adirondacks in NY and had no issues. I tow it with my 2018 F-150 3.5L Max Tow Package; Blue Ox equalizer. It tows wonderfully, even up huge hills i still have lots of pedal left.
Yalls intro is one of the select few I don't skip over. I appreciate your channel that much more because of this.
I have a similar sized trailer with a single AC (30 Amp set up). I have camped in some very hot locations and had no issues. I did keep the bedroom door open on those super hot nights to let more cool air flow into the bedroom area. And slept comfortably.
We have this rv and we love it! We did add an RVAirflow to help with the air conditioner. And it helped a LOT!
Good to know!
What's a RVAirflow?
@@Mark-n2c7y yes what is that
I LOVE this trailer!! I am planning to buy an RV in the near future for myself and I actually like this one better than 99% of the other ones I've seen. For one person it seems to be a good size inside. The length is a bit shorter than what I wanted but now that I've seen it I think I would be fine going shorter. The rear kitchen and front bedroom is a great idea and it's well planned out here. Two entries, yes! HUGE awning, yes! Amazing bathroom with a porcelain toilet, yes, yes, yes! I'm really taken with this one. As far as price, still in the doable range for me. And finding the best truck to tow it is my next step. Toyota tundra seems about the best option as well.
I think you may have shown me EXACTLY what I'm looking for!
If you do purchase this one be sure to keep us updated as I'll be watching to see how it goes!
Thanks for sharing this with me!💜💜💜☮️💜💜💜
We have the 2023. The Furrion AC did well this past summer. The hottest temps we experienced were at Lake Tawakoni in June...100 plus twmps and very high humidity.
I purchased a wall mount fan for the bedroom, and installed it where the rv mount is.
My wife can stretch out on the sofa, and i put the table and cushions down & snooze on the bed there.
I wish ours had the dimmable light strips.
Only downside has been the sliding door between living and bath. It has come off the track several times, but hopefully the last repair will hold.
I plan on upgrading the roof fans to either rhe Maxx Air, or rhe Hengs.
Our Ram 1500 tows it OK, but i did upgrade ro a heavier duty truck tire, and added Super Springs blue bump stops.
The red drum means it has the new Anti-lock braking system. 😊
We have the 2023 and it is an amazing unit. We tow with a 2006 Dodge Ram and it handles it beautifully!!! We did add the RoadActive Suspension RAS and it was totally worth the money. We live in Louisiana and have had no problem with the air conditioner. It is really nice since there is not 2 airs they did put a 1500 btu in it. The bedroom was our only problem and we put a fan up for that. Actually it is a full walk thru with the slide closed. It does not matter which door you go in.
We were considering a new trailer, owned a Forest River E-Pro 19FTD(?), Murphy bed. We decided to buy this trailer and LOVE IT! We do have outdoor speaker. Camped late summer in Alabama. A/C was a bit challenged, bought sliding vent covers and forced all air to bedroom, worked great!
We are very happy with this RV.
I have the 2022 LDE and we love it. Its the best TT out there. Pulls really easy and its the most practical and comfortable trailer you can buy. Yes lots of storage and Yes you should buy it.
Myle’s - I think you would really love the model we bought it has a work desk station to edit and work on the computer. My husband & I just got the Grand Design Imagine 2670MK which is towable with our 1/2 ton truck. It’s completely comfortable for two people. I can’t wait to see what your winning trailer will be! 🧐
~~~ I hope you do a purchasing video because I rarely see what to except once you sit down to sign.
YES .. absolutely get an RV .. as an RV guy, it will do great things for you to experience the buy, the drive, the enjoyment, the stress, the questions, the working through the issues, and the making of the memories .. YES .. it will forever change the way u relate to ur customers .. my favourite towable RV is the Salem 27RK - it’s a little bigger than this but very similar layout, single slide same location, single mid entry door, king bed, WD prep; but more money and needs a bigger truck - strait up taking out the rear door moves the fridge over to that location and really helps with space - like I said tho, I will need a bigger vehicle .. so back at u .. do u think I’m crazy for liking that for myself ?? And more importantly, do u sell those??
Great trailer, ;but I am biased as I have a 2022 model. The first year it came out. My wife and I find it a perfect couples trailer for us and our dog. The dinette bed is also good for grand littles. Anyways like some of the new stuff. Good review and well covered.
We have an Imagine travel trailer. We love it. The walk-through bath really helps to open it up. We have the 2023 3210bh.
We own a previous year model of this camper and we are still in love with it.
Hey Myles hope you an your wife are doing great? I really like what Grand Design has done with the led light bars on the ceilings. It blower my mind when you said that they are dimmable. I really like the whole setup of this travel trailer. Keep up the great job on bring us RV content,thank you. Your number one fan Leonard Nelson from North Carolina.
I've noticed he's not wearing his ring any longer and doesn't mention the wife anymore. Makes me sad to think they've split but that's life.
They're not together anymore
That is an exceptionally nice layout. I love it. Here's the thing we did is we over bought size wise because it's just me and my wife and went with the 2800BH. We love our camper big time because we wanted the outdoor kitchen and the extra storage of the BH model. But it is on the hairy edge of half ton towable. We have a 3/4 ton so we weren't worried about that aspect but still, that layout is amazing. If they had somehow put an outdoor kitchen in it, that would have been ours.
I can hear and feel your excitement. I agree with you on the air conditioner not having enough umph to reach the bedroom. Perhaps you can install another one? I wish they had put the toilet in a closet so there is privacy if you have a guest needing to get through the trailer. We love our Grand Design Reflection 2016 and it has held up very well.
Definately need to buy it!! For all the reasons u said n cuz u deserve it
We recently did a walkthrough of the camper a fell in love. Then, we saw it has a Schwintek slide, so it’s no longer on our list. Sad, because we loved the RV, other than the slide mechanism.
I am brand new into looking to purchase a travel trailer. What is the problem with the slide out?
@@crissychristensen1211 There are 3 primary types of mechanisms to move the slide in and out. Schwintek seems to have the most maintenance issues. It relies on two motors (one on each side of the slide) working in perfect harmony to move the slide in and out. You can tell if it’s a Shintech slide, because the slide has worm like gear rails on the top and bottom of each side of the slide. If you search for Schwintek slide on, TH-cam, you will probably find a number of videos that describe the problems that people have experienced. It’s just my opinion, but I believe that a rack & pinion slide mechanism is the best, followed by a cable driven slide, with Schwintek coming and third. We were just at the Tampa RV show today and talked to a few manufacturers that have moved away from Schwintek for 2024 and now have cable slide mechanisms
It being a bigger slide and using the Schwintek system is the issue, it will fail eventually and there's not a lot of options to replace it as fixing it will only happen again. Schwintek on a small bedroom ward slide is ok just not meant to be used on a big slideout. I really wanted to purchase this model as its the ultimate layout and half ton towable makes it really appealing, had to pass on it because of the Schwintek and also because of the improper plumbing with the flexible tubing mixed in with the fittings for Pex tubing guarantee to leak. So disappointed in GD for there reasoning to go with such poor uses of improper products as they could have had a superstar with this one.
It has a second a/c for front ready, get it then it would be great. Love set up and GD has this best customer service. Enjoy RVing.
I went with the Courger 22MLS , similer in size. I do airbag rather than the equalizer hitch, it got rid of most the swaying and helped with the tongue weigh.
Unfortunately, it’s only a 30amp unit so it’s not prepped to add another AC
That’s a great travel trailer and I think it be perfect for you, but I would definitely test out the air conditioner and see if it’s possible to get one with a 50 amp and two air conditioners as an option
I agree. That’s my biggest worry. Especially cause I do not like being hot.
I think 50 amp is better as well. Hope that's an option for this trailer!
Yes, if I recall, you are in Dallas (OP), you are definitely going to want to ensure you have enough AC down here (I'm in the Houston area).
We bought the last 21 in 22 in the southwest. We love the floor plan and it works well for us 2 and 2 small dogs. We did have so initial troubles but GD is very helpful while our dealer was not. Wish we had the dimmer switch.
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Go with the Palomino Solaire 242 RBS out side kitchen big bathroom big TV Theater seating very nice trailer
Yes, we just bought a 2024. Absolutely perfect (for us) couples camper.
I still believe the 27' is perfect for me, but you are spot on. I believe 30' and down are perfect for high ton trucks...
I believe it was 2023 new. We love this one.
I say go for it!! We just bought a Grand Design Imagine 17MKE - its the smaller version of this one - GD is one of the best makers of RVs yes they have problems like any other brand but they stand behind their products better than most - our GD was a 22 model we got ladt March and really haven't had any issues. Their layouts are the Best for storage and space for storage (our GD 17MKE is our 5th last camper and it really is now! 1st camper fits all our stuff - every other one i had to have totes and go in an out and in an out - made camping way to much of a chore with zero relaxation)
Thanks for all the input! Glad you’ve been having a good time with your RV!
PS - our camper is cooled down in snag lighting speed..maybe 1/2 - its not hard to cool these down with what GD puts in them.
I prefer this to the 24BSE. If you are going to get one I'm voting for the 23LDE. The only downside with these is YOU are going to have to do all of the microwaving as a normal person like your wife can't reach it. I like this bathroom set up better and there is a lot more storage in this one. This bedroom is also much nicer as the 24BSE bedroom seems to be so cramped and has almost no storage. You asked. I answered. Does my vote count?
I have been looking at this model since last year. I was told you can add the 2nd air conditioner in the bedroom. Also, I wish you would have shown the trailer with the slide out put in. When I saw last year's model, they closed it, and you could actually get around the whole camper with the slide in.
We have this rv and you have access to everything with the slide in. That’s one of the things that we liked about it. You can add a second air conditioner but you would only be able to use one at a time. It’s a great rv!
Great layout and loving the interior colors Imagine is using, and nice cabinetry.
Glad you like it!
I tow a 26ft Micro Lite that is 5300lb empty with a base tongue weight of 660lbs. With my normal camping gear my trailer scaled at 6300lb and my loaded tongue weight was close to 900lbs. I was towing it with my 2019 Expedition Limited that has Max Towing and Max Cargo packages. It has a payload capacity of 1530lbs. I was uncomfortable running that close since it only left me with 630lbs of payload capacity for passengers and gear in the truck. I ended up finding a 2020 Ram 1500 that has 1735lbs of payload capacity. Now I feel I have adequate cushion on payload. Loved the Tundras. Great reliability and drive train. But I couldn't find one that had better payload than my Expedition.
If it has the furrion ac then there is a mode called dry... And there is very little documentation on it, but what it basically does is it cycles the AC on for several minutes I think 9:00 to 12:00 or something like that I can't remember exact, and then it runs the fan and it cycles on and off on and off and we found that it is very very good at cooling the camper on hot days much better than just setting the thermostat and running the AC because it does a better job at keeping it cool once it gets cool.
The caravan I loved in when I left home had a smaller footprint, so I know I could survive a few weeks in this, no problem
It's nice real nice I have been looking at that size too, I like the Jayco Jay Feather 19MRK with a chief kitchen and Murphy Bed. It does have a smaller bath but 50 amp service with two AC and solar off-grid power.
I'm leaning more toward the Keystone Cougar 25RDS. Waiting to see what changes if any for 2024. I'm not sure I could sleep in a "box" created by the wardrobes on each side of the bed. Better to spend a few $$$ more up front and be happy vs unhappy and flipping it at a big loss.
I’m looking at the Cougar half ton myself. I’ve been in the Cougars and they are nice and make you feel like you’re in your home.
We have the 2023 and we absolutely love it!
We have the predecessor to this one… the 22MLE. We love it but this one addresses a couple minor concerns we have. We would buy his tomorrow if not for one issue which we have communicated to Grand Design. My wife is vertically challenged and does lots of great cooking. The microwave is just too high. Ours is in the slide and is a bit lower. If a small spacer/cabinet could be put above the microwave we will order tomorrow.
My suggestion if you’re doing full time, it would be 40lb propane bottles winters get cold. Will be looking for a 5th wheel toy hauler for our next one. I can’t remember which model it is but it had the loft in the garage area as well as the usual sofas and bed is the one im leaning towards
The biggest issue is having to foot the cost and maintenance costs for 2 "vehicles"
And those are BEFORE you take into consideration campsite fees etc.
You have to watch you budget closely.
What is the Price??? I watched the entire video and never heard him say it!
Hello Myles.😊 I didn't want to text because I'm not ready to buy just yet. But very soon I will. But I'm wondering are there any center bunkhouse models? I did find a Coachman Catalina 333 FKTS. This one has some very nice things included. Wonder if you can remove the top bunk though, just in case it's not necessary for the trip. Would you be able to locate and review one? Are there Any other options for center bunkhouse with good storage and plywood flooring. This one you reviewed is really niice but not into passthrough bathrooms. If able thanks in advance if not I understand 😊
I just sold my 2970RL but if this model was available when I bought mine I would have bought the one you’re reviewing. Only discrepancy I can tell you without a doubt is that the bedroom storage is inadequate and hard to use based on the size and location. The storage above the bed is useless and the pull out drawers are big enough for socks and underwear that’s about it.
Did you look at the Lance 1985? Their quality beats Grand Design by a mile.
I don't think you can afford not to buy this camper Miles, think of the possibilities!
Our favorite design. Just a retired husband and wife (biological male and female) looking to use for some travel.
Curious what you like about this model vs the 2600RB. I feel like that super slide with the dinette and couch on the same side makes it much more spacious. It's recliners and not a couch but still definitely nap/lounge friendly.
Take a look at the FR Surveyor travel trailers. We have 2022 203rkle
Sorry about the ex situation man. Kep doing your thing. Life is crazy and ahort. Live it up
The Rockwood 2024 2608 is very nice too with two slides. 30'
Nice trailer layout.
Remove the microwave, replace it with a convection combo, swap it with the door side cabinet.
Replace the stove with a two burner unit and no oven.
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Red means anti-locking braking system learned that today lol
Our 5th wheel is 6,000 pounds we got a Chevy Silverado Texas edition 9-10,000 towing it's just the cargo that can go up to 14,000 pounds. I might have to empty it out or get a different truck if we can afford it or fix my dad old truck I don't know if it can be fixed.
Looks really nice and very usable space.
Although I would swap out the sofa for a full size fold out bed. Queen.
If space is tight for that then swap out dinette for a long wall table bar style and 4 chairs.
I feel like you may love the 245rl transcend.
Come on. Why not a 2nd a/c option? That would make it perfect. Or at least a pre installed max fan in bedroom
How did they get this one so light? Is the Grand Design quality still as good?
I have a 245RL and 1 A/C was fine for Dallas Texas summer weather.
This is a fantastic unit (almost perfect), but being a high end model, where is the back bumper, the solid steps and aphte outside kitchen or at least an outside grill???
And if it’s a high end model (not a price point), why supply a crappie mattress? Supply it without so I can buy my own instead of paying for a crappie one and having to put it in the garbage weeks after buying it…
But this is pretty much the nicest unit I’ve seen (and I’m shopping for a 23’ trailer).
At first glance, I don't like those hatches with the twist locks, I prefer 'slam latches' I think they are called. From what I heard when talking to my rep (currently looking at trailers in this range) and he said those twist latches frequently break and don't have a long lifespan. From a few searches, it looks like this one may come in a little lower in price than the Alta I'm looking at but it seems to have better features. Another thing from walking into and out of a few acres of trailers, I can't stand those steps that are on this model you are considering, I greatly prefer the ones that have the adjustable legs that give you stable steps to climb.
I'm looking at the Alta 2600KRB currently. Pretty sure it has solar, 2 batteries, 2x 30lbs propane tanks....may spend a little bit more for a bit higher end model if you plan on really spending some time in it. Another general observation I made is the counters, I highly recommend those counters that are solid, the ones that have the laminate tops with the edging, that edging was already separating on some of the models on the lot. I know sometimes some of these little things across the whole trailer add up to thousands more on the price, but in the end, if you are going to live in this part time for weeks at a time, opt for something that is going to stand up. Trailers are already going to have issues just from the vibrations and bumps getting hauled down the road.
Good luck in whatever you decide. I'm also hauling with a half ton....it's paid off, so I'm very motivated to get something light that it can handle, but also durable and comfortable because I want to be able to live in mine for months at a time, as I can work remotely and want to take extended trips away from my home base.
it seems odd that the fridge door opens to the seating area and not the counter. Can that be changed?
Yes, its ABS. Awesome.
Thanks for reading the actual weight. There are often significant differences between advertised and actual. About 170 higher on this one.
❤love it I would
Buy a weight distribution hitch, also my 1500 has an 1800 pound payload and that camper would be pushing it for me. But i do pull a 7000 pound travel trailer just fine.
Love it i would buy but only my husband and my self 2 small dogs .love whole thing .
400 lbs of payload leftover is very little. If you and the girlfriend weigh even 300 combined you are nearly maxed out.
Girlfriend goes in the truck not the camper
Exactly my thoughts. I almost bought a Wildwood that weighs exactly what this does until I researched more about towing and payload. I just thought the towing capacity number was what you looked for. I went with a keystone passport that weighs only 3900 dry and sleeps 6.
She's 300 herself 😅 jk jk
I love everything about this except the bedroom. Little tiny cubbies at bedside, I need alot of space at my bed side. I would like like to see them change that.
Damn, no dedicated A/C in the bedroom is going to be a HUGE limiting factor for us. It gets HOT in central Washington, 90s well into the late evening hours in summer.
Lve it. Whhat location in Oklahoma? Interested
Don’t like the 12v fridge. Prefer propane/elec but they are being phased out😕
I love it 🎉
Love the rear kitchen and the sofa and dinette. Not sure about the rope lighting on ceiling, but I don't hate it. Overall a very nice floor plan. It would have been nice to have the crank out windows, though.
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This is sufficient space. I’ve stayed in hotel rooms in NYC that were no bigger than this campers’ bedroom and bathroom.
@Myles , when is the best time ti buy ? DFW or Houston or Tampa RV show ? Will your dealer be ther e 2024 ?
I don’t work with just one dealership. However, McClains which is where I am at in this video, will be at the Dallas RV show. And the best time to buy is where you find something you like. I can’t say one show will have something another show may not have cause I have no way of telling you what models each dealership will bring to each show.
@@mylesrv yes i thoight the same for all the above . Again Thank you for the insight .
Love this floorplan..Not sure I'd like the 6'6 ceiling..Rockwood Minilite 2515S review would be comparable.
Not a new floor plan, but it’s a really nice one. I just bought a different brand but I like this one too.
No crowned ceiling?
I really like the layout of this one. I just don't want to have to buy a truck to pull it
Definitely see the positives behind this trailer but I'd be most concerned like you with only a 30amp system.
Those red things are hubs on your axles they hold your bearings
You should have left the shade up in the kitchen. I was like DUDE RAISE THE SHADE AND LEAVE IT UP SO THE SUNLIGHT COMES IN
If you do the filming with your new rv but don’t forget accessories like generators, cargo rack or front bike racks
I don’t even own a bike 😅
No rear bumper?
That would be perfect for couples living full-time with pets. It's very economical and also get into National Parks and state parks with no problems. One quick question, where is the spare tire?
I looked over that point, but I imagine it’s under the RV
Would be cool seeing you live in this for 6 months.Let us know a real world review..Especially with the 6'6 ceiling height..
I would be concerned about the a/c but over all I love it!
We just bought this one last weekend, and ours has the outside speakers. Also from Texas, so I don't know why there is a difference.
Very strange!
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Buy for all seasons with heat
This would be perfect if it was 50 amp w/ 2 A/C units, better slide mechanism, and toilet in it's own closet setting...
MDF concerns me, manual jacks after driving all day, walking around 4+ times, pain in the back
just so you know those red thing on the wheels are called drum brakes
Can anyone explain why a high end TT like this doesn't have stable steps?
Thatß peŕfact the grand design
What ?? ABS that will be fire 🔥 if it had it. From what I understand if it dose not have abs it can be added later because Grand Design invented the ABS system. Let us know please when and if you find out.
With no rear bumper, where is the spare tire?
Underneath the RV