Taking into account the processes shown in the scene from lord of the rings, it's not a way to make a good sword, but it is a fantastic way to make a whole lot of (pretty terrible) swords in a very short amount of time. Cast a basic shape in iron, hammer on it a bit to refine the shape, quench it to harden, and then sharpen it until it can kill a dude. it's not a sword that's going to survive more than a few battles, but i think the idea is that neither are the soldiers they're being given to, so the Uruks probably don't care. that said, it's still an awful way to quench a blade.
Those uruk hai machetes were basically flat bars with an edge ground on to be fair to them...but you can't be as generous when they made Aragorns longsword the same way ☹☹
The mass production of terrible quality weapons really fits thematically with the orcs as well. They aren't skilled craftsmen. They get things done the cheap and dirty way. They represent industrialization, which Tolkien wasn't really a big fan of. So we get swords made on an industrial scale, in the cheapest way to get the minimum viable product, a long bit of metal with a sharp(ish) edge. It doesn't have to be pretty or last long. If it breaks, it won't be hard to replace. And honestly, a better blade would be wasted on the Uruks. They aren't exactly finesse fighters, I'm surprised they even bother with swords. Just give them a heavy mace and let them go to town.
In defence of the Fellowship of the Ring scene: The swords made for Orcs and Uruks would be a mass produced mess, judging from the entirety of the equipment your average orc footsoldier would be dressed in. I can easily see the orc army simply casting the basic shape of a sword, and then a hammer out and grind the bevels just to make each blade quickly.
it also has a 'not so hidden' meaning behind it too, tolkein being someone who famously disliked the industrialization of society, so in a way its sort of showcasing how bad mass produced things are, being rushed, rigged and soulless, as opposed to something like anduril (aragorns sword) which was hand crafted by skilled, expert craftsmanship and with high levels detail and quality etc.
Even just getting the sequences of the steel-working would be a huge leap forward, like 5 seconds of hammering, then straight blade can be hardened, then a little bit of sanding/grinding, and done basically. Instead of hardening a crooked blade that they then hammer on again LOL
Based on the past two videos he'd talk about open mold casting not working well with iron and the fact that he continues to forge the cast material. And probably mention his own experience working with meteorite lol
It never works because meteorite metal is full of carbon and other junk metals that dont forge right together. I believe he did do a video on it already as well and it really doesn't want to forge lol.
@@TarisRedwing it actually does, not by casting, but there are many historic example of using meteorite in forgewelded blades. Especially because of their special metallurgy.
I think the dwarf scene illustrates why movies and shows so rarely show the yellow/white hot metal. It is very hard to get film (or a digital sensor) properly exposed with such contrast in brightness. You either have a lot lost in deep shadow or you wash out entire sections of the scene in white. It is a lot easier for the human eye to deal with that situation though.
@James Cheddar Regarding green stars: We can't see green stars, because stars in the temperature range, that have the most light in the green spectrum also have enough blue, yellow and red light to just look white.
focusing the shot on just the metal might be very visually appealing though and you could overlay the action onto the background with the lighting you want so that really shouldn't be an issue with fixed perspectives in real locations or CGI
@James Cheddar It is because of the response of our red, green, and blue cones in our eyes. Green sits in the middle and it actually has the lowest response peak. Stars emit such wide spectrums of light on their black body peak that any green star also triggers the red and blue just as much so we see it as white. In truth based on pure emission spectrum the sun is a yellow-green. There are also purple stars based on black body emission alone but due to the scale of the spectrum we just see it as blue.
With the fellowship of the ring one, those logs they are throwing into the fire are actually charcoal pits, or at least look a lot like old school charcoal pits, once it is loaded with wood and up to temp the entrance is collapsed to seal and stop air getting in and turned wood to charcoal because it doesn’t burn.
The more egregious mistake in movie forging in LOTR is when they re-forge the Narsil sword. They just kind of heat up the pieces and hammer them together.
@@ColoradoStreaming Eh elven forge magic, it's referenced that elves use more magic than heat and hammering. Which is why dwarves fucking HATE elven forged items
I can agree with almost everything Alec said however in regards to the Avengers scene I don't believe he cast a billet of the metal and the hit it once to make a finished axe i think it was poured into a mold of the finished axe and then the outer shell of the mold was broken away.
Forge welding actually has been done using totally cold steel. It was on a program on the old Discovery Channel where they used high explosives to forge weld to large pieces of sheet steel together not just at the edges, but the entire surface area of the sheets were welded together.
@@wisnoskij Cold welding in space is possible, because there is no air between the two parts. It can actually be a problem and cause parts that should be separate to become stuck.
Thermite welding? they use it to weld train tracks sometimes and it isn't technically cold since it does heat the steel very quickly for a short amount of time.
@@liamnehren1054 Not thermite, actual explosives. IIRC they used some kind of powdered stuff spread evenly across the top of the sheet steel. They set it off and the friction caused by the 2 thick sheets (2 inches thick each) slamming together welded them across the entire surface of the sheets.
@@thebluestig2654 "Friction welding (FRW) is a solid-state welding process that generates heat through mechanical friction between workpieces in relative motion to one another ..." I just looked it up it is still a process of heating just using the friction to create the heat.
I remember one time me and my friends had a fire down on the riverbank and we found a bit of metal fence. We heated it up, collected all the driftwood and made two bent bars using rocks as hammers and anvils.
@@pvic6959 I haven't. The LotR is the real sin here. But I do suspect he might simply act as if he haven't watched them, to judge them on a "clean slate" so to say.
Great video, but I’ve gotta say, you can definitely power a forge with wood, if you design the forge well. If you make it with sloped sides in such a way that the wood is converted to charcoal as it slides down into the center, it totally works. Not as well as coal or gas (and Jesus I’m never going back to wood burning forges) but it does work.
Just a thought, but maybe the fires we see the trees being shoveled into aren't even the forges, it might just be some massive kilns for making charcoal.
@@extremepredudice Might be, but what little I know about making charcoal, it's that you do it in low oxygen environement. You don't want your wood to burn, that's too much heat. Those wide open holes they're chucking the wood into would make the kiln useless.
Also an important thing to remember is, sarumon wasnt using wood because he thought it was efficient, he was using it because it was there. The entire setup was basically an attack on industrialization as a whole and the damage it does. Cheaply made mass produced low quality goods that pollute the area around them and destroy the world. The weapons were trash but they were "good enough" for his totally disposable minions to cut down a few people each before breaking and he was able to equip his army with trash level iron gear in record time. Which he needed to do because he was in a hurry.
You can't really judge Uruk or Uruk-Hai smithing using good smithing as a comparison. Their work is -done- and that's the best you can usually say about it. So cast a lot of near finished blades, make their warrior-who-got-stuck-doing-this-job do the finishing work to fix how bad the cast would have been. But when you need to make enough arms and armor, not to mention siege fittings and however many rods and nails that DO have to be good quality, Ten Thousand Totally Disposable Uruks, you end up with weird and cobbled together processes based on whomever happened to vaguely remember the processes. The craft quality of most peoples/nations would be great quality by our standards. Except Uruks, where you're happy with -done-.
But in the book it's mentioned that they're actually quite good at making arms and armor. That's the weird part. It would still pass muster though, as the mobilization of a large army like that could require a quick mass production of cheap stuff...
@@Shade01982 I think it was quick and dirty for Saruman's forces alone, since like you said, its to get weapons quickly into the hands of 10s of thousands of grunts, but if you look at Mordors, weapons, they are actually better made
I think they did that in the movie to highlight the point that Saruman was in a rush to raise an army and take down Rohan before they could organize as a force against him.
I love how Alec saw the forging of different movies or series. Specially Berserk and Avengers. Forging is more than hitting and pouring steel. Love it.😉
This is the kind of stuff I watch Alec for. I always found the teaching / showing videos about blacksmithing the best. I used to learn a lot from this guy!
Would love to see you all make a swinging hammer like the one in that video clip just for reference sake if not for actual forging. Would love to see what you all could create with it if you had one
With the Lord if the Rings clip, orc weapons were known to be low quality iron instead of steel because 1) they didn't really have the knowledge or patience for quality smithing and 2) the logistics of an orc army were entirely focused on huge numbers of disposable grunts. Saruman became a threat because he started creating his own, better versions of orcs, faster, stronger, and smarter than the Mordor variety, but still used the cheap disposable armaments.
I'm not quite sure where people get this idea that orcs are some dumb, robotic mass incapable of learning and advancement. Tolkien implies several times that the orcs are capable craftsmen, with adequate resources and the ability to be as creative as their less crude counterparts.
For all the things wrong with the Hobbit films, the smithing scenes did work to showcase the Dwarves. Nothing quite feels like the laws of physics were broken (in this scene), it's just that they have such natural understanding and practice of the craft that they can work in ways that would be absurdly reckless for a human.
When it comes to the sparks coming off a piece of metal during forging. There's a technique for blasting scale where you put water on the anvil and hammer the forced steam "makes" sparks that look similar on camera.
Great comedy mentioning that you'd usually grind off excess weight before quenching while watching a clip from Berserk, where there's no swords with excess weight at all.
Alec.... I wanna see you come play with a steam engine that runs on wood. We have 2 types of wood that we burn here, Redgum and Black Box and it gets *hot*. Hot enough to bend the firebars holding up the fire and create clinker, a sort of crappy glass, where it melts the silicates together. Mostly, I wanna see you play with a steam engine and think about how they were made and talk through the casting and making of the machinery. Especially casting the cylinder head and figuring out the crankshaft. I think you'd love it. I am a Captain and Engineer of a Paddle Steamer in Australia and if ever you find yourself out this way, free invite. Would love to show you how they tick. That being said, there are a *lot* of steam engines in the UK, though mostly on coal.
Doing some world building I tried to envision what a master crafter's forging technique would look like if they didn't have the machines of the modern day; And i was super excited to see real world evidence of the multiple hammerers and head smith conducting them style i had envisioned
Trees (maybe not whole trees) were used in forging and as someone who used to use whole wood logs. Normal tree wood does get hot enough to properly forge steel. I agree that for the heat treating process pre made charcoal is better but literally any kind of wood will get hot enough to use....given enough air.
Something I learned from another blacksmith here on youtube is that a good rule of thumb for forge welding is to try and compress the material by about 30%. So this was while making damascus, getting all the layers of steel to stick to one another, placing them in a press (or striking manually) take the height of that stack and reduce is by about a third for a good proper bond. Even if it was up to heat, Groot/Grute/whatever still wouldn't have had a good forge weld there, _maybe_ it would stick in a few places, but it was be a very weak bond with a lot of cold shuts. You just need that pressure on top of the heat in order to forge weld steel, you can't do one or the other, it has to be both.
In defense of the LOTR forging. The movies were already 3 hours long. To make the forging process accurate would have made them much longer and been rather boring to endure. Just saying...
@@shawnstjohn3831 take a camera to their workshops, do some time lapses, chuck in a green screen. It would not have had to being longer or, just a simply pass over with several blades going through a production line at different stages. I imagine some big armies like Romans, must have used a production line method to produce blades, though the gladius is much smaller
@@shawnstjohn3831 literally just needed 3 seconds of hammering the yellow-hot steel, 2 seconds of grinding on an old stone grinder, and then a proper quench.
Thing is that that isn't what was important for that scene from a filmographical standpoint. That scene wasn't about showing 'this is how you forge stuff', it was about the sheer, pretty much industrialized scale of war that was happening there and the impact it had on the surroundings. And 'look how small this huge tree looks in these surroundings, imagine how many trees it takes to keep this up' and 'look how many blades they're making in even just a single pour', while not making much sense from an actual forging standpoint does a great job at bringing across the message.
Remember these were supposed to be mass produced Orc swords, they're not meant to be high quality. The poor forging techniques aren't necessarily accidental.
The last smith is great in the story: he took part in a competition to make a dragon-slaying sword. Everyone else made beautiful pieces of art and whimsical greatswords. He made a big sword-shaped slab that's no sharper than an axe. It's too big to be called a sword. Too big, too thick, too heavy, and too rough, it's more like a large hunk of iron. But it kills things worse than dragons.
So Alec. There are a lot of videos of restoring post/leg/blacksmith vises. And a lot on how to make a mount for them. But you know what there isn’t (that I can find). A video or series on MAKING a new one. You’ve been doing a make your own tools segment lately. How about making a 5” or 6” (or even an 8”) jaw post vise brand new. Bet that will be fun
for the Hobbit one I've always imagined he can do that through some prosthetic metal hand; maybe he lost a hand in some smithing injury and is making the best of things
I am delighted to know that team striking is actually a thing. I thought the five dwarves hammering away was just a bit of neat looking nonsense. Thank you
The vintage team striking clip reminded me of something I noticed in early blacksmithing images. In historic blacksmith shops, the anvils are almost never attached to their stands. Anvils must have been used differently in the past, with much lighter blows on the horn and heal, because it's clear that old anvils are not designed to be easily attached to stands. And every modern smith I see nowadays has some jerry rigged system to hold their anvil in place.
About forging with just wood - it works, I do it semi-regularly when I don't want to go to town to buy charcoal. Is it ideal? No, it's much slower. But Ash works great, Maple works too, so I figure most hardwoods would work. You won't get it real hot, but enough to get a decent edge. Just not japanese kitchen knife hard.
2:15 the opening of The Exorcist shows three guys going at a single piece of hot steel with blacksmith hammers. The legends say that Pythagoras figured out the mathematics of musical intonation from listening to two blacksmiths hammering away at the same piece of iron, with one of their hammers exactly 2/3 the length of the other.
Not so much a video, but there's a passage in Eragon's 3rd book (Brisingr, Spoilers) that deals with the forging of Eragon's new sword from a piece of meteorite. I was always curious about how accurate the description was.
I saw a video from Will Stelter earlier where he was trying to make a guard from wrought iron and bronze. I wonder what a damascus of those two made by Will and Alec would look like?
The most baffling thing about this whole video is the implication that the blacksmith hasn't seen a single one of the movies in the clips he was shown.
I think you might get a good laugh out of "That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime" when Kurobe is making Shuna's knife. You get to see a little of his technique and equipment, he waxes poetically about the joy of striking iron, and the part where she tries out the knife is...let's just say I don't think your knives will do that. 😂 There are other instances with him and Kaijin blacksmithing throughout the series, but it's always either very short or interrupted by magic nonsense.
a side note I didn't see anyone talk about yet, in the first clip the blacksmith is hardening the katana with the curve already in the blade, this isnt how they are made at all (also didnt see any of the folding and the like) rather the curve is formed after coating the top half in clay to slow its heating and cooling and this make it more flexable when finished
The Smith & the Knight's Tale had a line that kills me every time: "I've found a new way to heat the steel" ........ You've created a new kind of fire?
watching smiths has made me critical of movies too.. LOL. good on ya bro. I like your perspective. been watching since the early leaky conex days. you've come far amigo. good job.
A lot of people are talking about the lotr scene but I do have something to add about the hobbit scene. In chapter 2: Of Aule and Yavana, there is the following passage that gives a description of the dwarves: "Since they were to come in the days of the power of Melkor, Aule made the Dwarves strong to endure. Therefore, they are stone-hard, stubborn, fast in friendship and in enmity, and they suffer toil and hunger and hurt of body more hardily than all other speaking peoples; and they live long, far beyond the span of Men, yet not for ever. Aforetime it was held among the Elves in Middle-earth that dying the Dwarves returned to the earth and stone of which they were made; yet that is not their own belief."
I wish you would have seen the OTHER Samurai Jack forging scene from episode The 4 Seasons of Death, Winter section. I think the scene was made to try and combine as many sword forging tropes and the results speak for themselves.
“Why is a tree falling…? A-ha! They’re fueling their furnaces with trees, which wouldn’t actually be a dumb thing.” Courtesy of the lore, that was in fact an extremely dumb thing.
the infinity war scene is even funnier when you consider the smith is making a weapon either out of neutron degenerate matter or magic-conducting McGuffin metal
2:24 HEY! Don't pick on the Dwarven "gravity hammer...thing." I was going to raise the roof of my shop a hundred or so feet and put one in. I'd say there are a few OSHA violations involved with that thing. 🤣
In the first clip, the katana was curved before quenching. I'm no blacksmith, but multiple documentaries I've seen all say that the quenching causes the curvature (because the different types of steel shrink differently).
For the scene with Stormbreaker, I always took it as the "handle" holding the two pieces of metal together. Why one would do that I don't know. Maybe like an anti vibration thing? 🤷🏼♂️ Also, it's not steel. It's "the heart of a collapsed star", so neutronium. What's amazing is that using a star like for heat to forge something is a real (theoretical) thing. It's called a Nicoll-Dyson beam. In this case pretty much 100% of the energy of the star is being pushed in that one beam, which you might need for forging neutronium.
The Infinity War scene kind of works. If you know it's a space metal (uru I think) and the forge is a star it could be that it can weld together while not being white hot. Also Groot's branch could also do some hand waving.
The issue with judging LOTR is ...their dwarves. The idea is that it's not only fantasy magic, but that dwarves are supposed to have forging knowledge beyond our comprehension.
For the Knight’s Tale clip the premise was that she had found some “new way to heat the steel” that wasn’t explained but presumably that was supposed to be why the fire was weird. I don’t know if that was actually the intent of using the natural gas flame but it was actually stated that it wasn’t supposed to be a standard coal flame type of thing.
Alec Steele just want to thank you for light a spark in me for forging my dude I want to make something that you made and have it hang in the shop to show the respect and my gratitude for getting me in to smithing I was wondering if that would be cool with you
i would beg to differ on the cant forge with wood my first forge was a cone shaped fire pit with a significant blower attached not fantastic but burning soft wood scraps from pointing cedar fence posts i heat 3/4 inch steel well past the point of oblivion when i was distracted this was by no means a fine piece of work but for what i needed which was a large number of pintles for hanging gates on the farm it worked perfectly my starting stock was u bolts from dump trucks and admittedly this was 25ish years ago and at that point the only bag coal you could get was Anthracite and was not worth the hassle (same set up with a little fiddling was used to melt and cast bronze one summer same fuel sours) dont get me wrong i have used and own several gas and several coal forges but fuel just needs to be given enough air to burn and then it is just a matter of containing the heat and feeding in more fuel as you go to have a working fire
I don't know if the clips are cut the same way for Alec that we see them, but Eitri is pouring the molten uru into a mold and is punching that to break it open. He's not punching the ax head itself.
Alec. I have your next big sword/weapon-making series. Have you seen any of those new videos where people are reviewing the new Dall-E AI art generator? It creates some amazing art from the user's prompts and can generate objects like swords, all from your imagination. What you can do for some amazing content is to use one of these AI generators, another of which is mid journey, to generate an object and then make that object. You will be amazed at what they generate and I'd love to see you make something that it generates.
We do need a good blacksmithing project off you, Alec. Enjoyable as this video is, it's almost bittersweet to have you talking about blacksmithing, because it feels like a long time since you've done a big project, with plenty of forging and narrative about the process. At least one that could generate 4 x 15 min episodes maybe? The engineering/machining projects have been great, it's just...It's not the same.
So, the Axe they're making in Avengers: Infinity War is Stormbringer, and the metal it's made from is called "Uru." Clearly fictitious, with supernatural properties. It's not surprising that the techniques depicted wouldn't work on normal Earth steel.
Well also him punching it I think was more him breaking away the cast mold not forming any metal. And I don't think groot picking it up fused anything n it's 100% held together just by the strength of the wood he makes... epic clip none the less lol
yeah, him punching the cast mold off is because he cant just open it. Thanos got rid of his hands so man is quiet literally throwing stumps instead of fists there.
im pretty sure there was a forging scene in one of the early nijago episodes. It was 1st season i think. might be good if there is another one of these
Alec, in Avengers Infinity Wars, they weapon making takes place in "outer space", so I think they are trying to imply there is some sort of space welding going on maybe.....Groot and Rocket travel to "Nidavellir" to enlist the help of a dwarf king......and since "we all know" that Dwarfs were expert smelters and forgers.....of course it came out perfect the first time. "Nidavellir (based on the Norse mythological location of the same name) is an Alderson disk surrounding a dying star, inhabited by gigantic Dwarves who served as blacksmiths for the Asgardians, forging weapons such as Mjölnir, Stormbreaker, and the Infinity Gauntlet out of uru. Sometime between 2014 and 2015, Thanos visits the forge, forcing the Dwarves to make the Infinity Gauntlet before slaughtering them and smelting Eitri's hands. Thor, Groot, and Rocket visit the forge several years later, aiding Eitri in creating Stormbreaker."
I think everyone overlooks how specialized late-medieval weapon crafting was - even modern-day professional blacksmiths working in a forge might not even grasp how every scene with one person forging everything wasn't even a real thing that happened. A forge would have had the Smith pumping out the blades, an apprentice grinder to hone the soft, forged blades and put them into a pile of swords to be quenched, a dude who did the finishing touches and quenched the blades (usually the highest ranked Smith, where he would put his guild mark), the guys who pinned and crafted the handles, and the person (usually the master grinder) who did the final honing and polishing before being sent out. There's millennium-old meeting minutes between the guilds that represented all these trades where the tradesmen responsible for making chains were objecting in the guild hall to the armorers guild that their inclusion of top-loops on a breastplate and leggings were unsafe (because they required no Master to validate the integrity of the connections) and reduced their membership participation in the overall armament contract.
I think I said in a comment to your last video on this subject something like "Come ON, these people aren't doing documentaries!" But I do get it: you (obviously) take your craft very seriously and would expect (or **hope**) that it would be represented at least SOMEWHAT accurately (plausibly at the very least).
How can you burn steel while forging, while also being able to melt the steel to a liquid, presumably without burning it? How much does the steel have to move after pouring to no longer be a weaker cast steel? Because a poured ingot that is turned into a blade is a forged blade. But what is the "ingot" is blade shaped and 25% thicker and shorter than the the finished product? 10% thicker? 100% thicker?
Something you could look up is the DaVinci Power hammer or (let me double check to get it right) The Jessop Tilt Hammer. Apparently they are also called trip hammers?
For the next one, maybe the forging scene from "The African Queen", Humphrey Bogart has to fix a rudder by forge welding the pieces using a rock as anvil
Been watching your Chanel since the days of hammer making in your og shop. I would like to see you make a nice knife that you could auction off an donate to your favorite cause. Something real nice. Really show off your skills.
You missed 1 from a brand new movie named Samaritan that was released this month. The villain who is superhuman wants to kill his hero brother so he casts an entire hammer thats about 3 feet long then continues to forge it. He of course then proceeds to dump all of his hate and anger into the hammer so it has a glow.
Taking into account the processes shown in the scene from lord of the rings, it's not a way to make a good sword, but it is a fantastic way to make a whole lot of (pretty terrible) swords in a very short amount of time. Cast a basic shape in iron, hammer on it a bit to refine the shape, quench it to harden, and then sharpen it until it can kill a dude. it's not a sword that's going to survive more than a few battles, but i think the idea is that neither are the soldiers they're being given to, so the Uruks probably don't care.
that said, it's still an awful way to quench a blade.
Those uruk hai machetes were basically flat bars with an edge ground on to be fair to them...but you can't be as generous when they made Aragorns longsword the same way ☹☹
The mass production of terrible quality weapons really fits thematically with the orcs as well. They aren't skilled craftsmen. They get things done the cheap and dirty way. They represent industrialization, which Tolkien wasn't really a big fan of. So we get swords made on an industrial scale, in the cheapest way to get the minimum viable product, a long bit of metal with a sharp(ish) edge. It doesn't have to be pretty or last long. If it breaks, it won't be hard to replace. And honestly, a better blade would be wasted on the Uruks. They aren't exactly finesse fighters, I'm surprised they even bother with swords. Just give them a heavy mace and let them go to town.
@@Talenel For Uruk hai it only needs to last long enough to kill another guy and steal their weapon.
And it works as well... The scene was litteraly film crew members in costumes making the weapons that were later used in the film.
@@Ewiril not just film crew. I believe that were actual steel forge workers
In defence of the Fellowship of the Ring scene:
The swords made for Orcs and Uruks would be a mass produced mess, judging from the entirety of the equipment your average orc footsoldier would be dressed in.
I can easily see the orc army simply casting the basic shape of a sword, and then a hammer out and grind the bevels just to make each blade quickly.
it also has a 'not so hidden' meaning behind it too, tolkein being someone who famously disliked the industrialization of society, so in a way its sort of showcasing how bad mass produced things are, being rushed, rigged and soulless, as opposed to something like anduril (aragorns sword) which was hand crafted by skilled, expert craftsmanship and with high levels detail and quality etc.
Then equip them with maces or axes instead of swords. These are way easier to mass produce plus they require less training to be used in combat.
@@Timotheus24 yeah but they’re not as cool
@@Timotheus24 The Uruk-Hai swords were designed for fighting Rohan. The spike on the back of the blade was for taking riders off their horses.
@@Janoha17 Yep. Bec de corbin or lucerne hammer is what they should have used instead of cast swords.
Based upon Alecs videos for these films to be accurate they need to be 20 parts long and have 10 hours of hand sanding. 😉
you can reduce hand sanding alot with surfacing belts
Even just getting the sequences of the steel-working would be a huge leap forward, like 5 seconds of hammering, then straight blade can be hardened, then a little bit of sanding/grinding, and done basically.
Instead of hardening a crooked blade that they then hammer on again LOL
@@ToreDL87 just remember, most people are ignorant to what goes into making a good blade. hollywood plays on peoples ignorance
Nope... double the episodes, make the hours of sanding days and you might be closer...
Also don't forget he might have broken and restarted it...
@@waynehawley9052 good point
I would love to see Alec's reaction to Sokka forging his meteorite blade from Avatar: The Last Airbender
Yeah do this one
upvote, yes. Especially since he's tried to do that before, inspired by that scene
Based on the past two videos he'd talk about open mold casting not working well with iron and the fact that he continues to forge the cast material. And probably mention his own experience working with meteorite lol
It never works because meteorite metal is full of carbon and other junk metals that dont forge right together. I believe he did do a video on it already as well and it really doesn't want to forge lol.
@@TarisRedwing it actually does, not by casting, but there are many historic example of using meteorite in forgewelded blades. Especially because of their special metallurgy.
I think the dwarf scene illustrates why movies and shows so rarely show the yellow/white hot metal. It is very hard to get film (or a digital sensor) properly exposed with such contrast in brightness. You either have a lot lost in deep shadow or you wash out entire sections of the scene in white. It is a lot easier for the human eye to deal with that situation though.
That is almost all CGI, so you wouldn't have to expose it correctly. Just set it up in post.
@James Cheddar Regarding green stars: We can't see green stars, because stars in the temperature range, that have the most light in the green spectrum also have enough blue, yellow and red light to just look white.
focusing the shot on just the metal might be very visually appealing though and you could overlay the action onto the background with the lighting you want so that really shouldn't be an issue with fixed perspectives in real locations or CGI
@James Cheddar It is because of the response of our red, green, and blue cones in our eyes. Green sits in the middle and it actually has the lowest response peak. Stars emit such wide spectrums of light on their black body peak that any green star also triggers the red and blue just as much so we see it as white. In truth based on pure emission spectrum the sun is a yellow-green.
There are also purple stars based on black body emission alone but due to the scale of the spectrum we just see it as blue.
Which hobbit movie is it from?
With the fellowship of the ring one, those logs they are throwing into the fire are actually charcoal pits, or at least look a lot like old school charcoal pits, once it is loaded with wood and up to temp the entrance is collapsed to seal and stop air getting in and turned wood to charcoal because it doesn’t burn.
The more egregious mistake in movie forging in LOTR is when they re-forge the Narsil sword. They just kind of heat up the pieces and hammer them together.
@@ColoradoStreaming Eh elven forge magic, it's referenced that elves use more magic than heat and hammering. Which is why dwarves fucking HATE elven forged items
The machine shop and foundry I had worked at in the 90's had a single swinging giant hammer used to "ring out" the slag from the 12-18 foot cauldrons.
So from context, the cauldrons were turned upside down, hit (like a bell) and the slag got knocked out?
Make a set of hardened Damascus sockets, to go with the ratchet, that'd be awesome to see.
I read damascus socks... well, that's another idea
@@cocon16_PW that would be an interesting knitting project
@@cocon16_PW ALL socks are "Damascus" socks.
@@christianvanderstap6257 see previous reply... they're all pattern "welded."
You don't want sockets to be hardened, that's just asking for a trip to the hospital when one inevitably breaks and causes damage to the user.
I can agree with almost everything Alec said however in regards to the Avengers scene I don't believe he cast a billet of the metal and the hit it once to make a finished axe i think it was poured into a mold of the finished axe and then the outer shell of the mold was broken away.
That's Exactly what he was doing
and groot wasn't forgewelding he was making a handle that held the 2 parts togather
yeah, but it looks amazingly good for no finishing or further work at all out of the mould, I think is the point
@@Spekor and his wood didn't burn because he is an infant Yggdrasil so you can't really call it wood as we know it....
Forge welding actually has been done using totally cold steel. It was on a program on the old Discovery Channel where they used high explosives to forge weld to large pieces of sheet steel together not just at the edges, but the entire surface area of the sheets were welded together.
I believe like metals will cold weld in space. So technically you cna weld metal at like 0 K, but I am not sure how well that works in practice.
@@wisnoskij Cold welding in space is possible, because there is no air between the two parts. It can actually be a problem and cause parts that should be separate to become stuck.
Thermite welding? they use it to weld train tracks sometimes and it isn't technically cold since it does heat the steel very quickly for a short amount of time.
@@liamnehren1054 Not thermite, actual explosives. IIRC they used some kind of powdered stuff spread evenly across the top of the sheet steel. They set it off and the friction caused by the 2 thick sheets (2 inches thick each) slamming together welded them across the entire surface of the sheets.
@@thebluestig2654 "Friction welding (FRW) is a solid-state welding process that generates heat through mechanical friction between workpieces in relative motion to one another ..." I just looked it up it is still a process of heating just using the friction to create the heat.
I remember one time me and my friends had a fire down on the riverbank and we found a bit of metal fence. We heated it up, collected all the driftwood and made two bent bars using rocks as hammers and anvils.
im more amazed at Alec's abstinence of watching movies and shows.
yeah im surprised he didnt know about the avengers one lol. it seems like EVERYONE has seen that
@@pvic6959 I haven't. The LotR is the real sin here.
But I do suspect he might simply act as if he haven't watched them, to judge them on a "clean slate" so to say.
Great video, but I’ve gotta say, you can definitely power a forge with wood, if you design the forge well. If you make it with sloped sides in such a way that the wood is converted to charcoal as it slides down into the center, it totally works. Not as well as coal or gas (and Jesus I’m never going back to wood burning forges) but it does work.
Just a thought, but maybe the fires we see the trees being shoveled into aren't even the forges, it might just be some massive kilns for making charcoal.
@@extremepredudice Might be, but what little I know about making charcoal, it's that you do it in low oxygen environement. You don't want your wood to burn, that's too much heat. Those wide open holes they're chucking the wood into would make the kiln useless.
Ill take your word for it, just spitballing :)
Also an important thing to remember is, sarumon wasnt using wood because he thought it was efficient, he was using it because it was there. The entire setup was basically an attack on industrialization as a whole and the damage it does. Cheaply made mass produced low quality goods that pollute the area around them and destroy the world. The weapons were trash but they were "good enough" for his totally disposable minions to cut down a few people each before breaking and he was able to equip his army with trash level iron gear in record time. Which he needed to do because he was in a hurry.
You also have to remember that when you add green wood to a good fire it burns hotter. Rocket type stoves can burn extremely hot!
You can't really judge Uruk or Uruk-Hai smithing using good smithing as a comparison. Their work is -done- and that's the best you can usually say about it. So cast a lot of near finished blades, make their warrior-who-got-stuck-doing-this-job do the finishing work to fix how bad the cast would have been. But when you need to make enough arms and armor, not to mention siege fittings and however many rods and nails that DO have to be good quality, Ten Thousand Totally Disposable Uruks, you end up with weird and cobbled together processes based on whomever happened to vaguely remember the processes.
The craft quality of most peoples/nations would be great quality by our standards. Except Uruks, where you're happy with -done-.
But in the book it's mentioned that they're actually quite good at making arms and armor. That's the weird part.
It would still pass muster though, as the mobilization of a large army like that could require a quick mass production of cheap stuff...
@@Shade01982 I think it was quick and dirty for Saruman's forces alone, since like you said, its to get weapons quickly into the hands of 10s of thousands of grunts, but if you look at Mordors, weapons, they are actually better made
I think they did that in the movie to highlight the point that Saruman was in a rush to raise an army and take down Rohan before they could organize as a force against him.
I love how Alec saw the forging of different movies or series. Specially Berserk and Avengers.
Forging is more than hitting and pouring steel. Love it.😉
This is the kind of stuff I watch Alec for. I always found the teaching / showing videos about blacksmithing the best. I used to learn a lot from this guy!
I love how these clips are so far from actual forging and Alec is trying his hardest to professionally evaluate them lmao. This was nice.
Would love to see you all make a swinging hammer like the one in that video clip just for reference sake if not for actual forging. Would love to see what you all could create with it if you had one
I'd love to see this as well! would be awesome to see what could be done with it.
It's just a more dangerous version of a press.
With the Lord if the Rings clip, orc weapons were known to be low quality iron instead of steel because 1) they didn't really have the knowledge or patience for quality smithing and 2) the logistics of an orc army were entirely focused on huge numbers of disposable grunts. Saruman became a threat because he started creating his own, better versions of orcs, faster, stronger, and smarter than the Mordor variety, but still used the cheap disposable armaments.
Not at all, Tolkien said the orcs were really good at weapon and armor smithing, mentioned in chapter 4 of the Hobbit.
Also saruman dind't create the uruk-hai he just chose them to be his main orc species.
I'm not quite sure where people get this idea that orcs are some dumb, robotic mass incapable of learning and advancement.
Tolkien implies several times that the orcs are capable craftsmen, with adequate resources and the ability to be as creative as their less crude counterparts.
For all the things wrong with the Hobbit films, the smithing scenes did work to showcase the Dwarves. Nothing quite feels like the laws of physics were broken (in this scene), it's just that they have such natural understanding and practice of the craft that they can work in ways that would be absurdly reckless for a human.
Exactly! It's supposed to be a bit far fetched! Forging is what they were famous for.
When it comes to the sparks coming off a piece of metal during forging. There's a technique for blasting scale where you put water on the anvil and hammer the forced steam "makes" sparks that look similar on camera.
Great comedy mentioning that you'd usually grind off excess weight before quenching while watching a clip from Berserk, where there's no swords with excess weight at all.
Alec.... I wanna see you come play with a steam engine that runs on wood. We have 2 types of wood that we burn here, Redgum and Black Box and it gets *hot*. Hot enough to bend the firebars holding up the fire and create clinker, a sort of crappy glass, where it melts the silicates together. Mostly, I wanna see you play with a steam engine and think about how they were made and talk through the casting and making of the machinery. Especially casting the cylinder head and figuring out the crankshaft.
I think you'd love it. I am a Captain and Engineer of a Paddle Steamer in Australia and if ever you find yourself out this way, free invite. Would love to show you how they tick.
That being said, there are a *lot* of steam engines in the UK, though mostly on coal.
Doing some world building I tried to envision what a master crafter's forging technique would look like if they didn't have the machines of the modern day;
And i was super excited to see real world evidence of the multiple hammerers and head smith conducting them style i had envisioned
I used to dream of being a blacksmith. Something about it being so raw and primal. Cheers!
Trees (maybe not whole trees) were used in forging and as someone who used to use whole wood logs. Normal tree wood does get hot enough to properly forge steel. I agree that for the heat treating process pre made charcoal is better but literally any kind of wood will get hot enough to use....given enough air.
Something I learned from another blacksmith here on youtube is that a good rule of thumb for forge welding is to try and compress the material by about 30%. So this was while making damascus, getting all the layers of steel to stick to one another, placing them in a press (or striking manually) take the height of that stack and reduce is by about a third for a good proper bond. Even if it was up to heat, Groot/Grute/whatever still wouldn't have had a good forge weld there, _maybe_ it would stick in a few places, but it was be a very weak bond with a lot of cold shuts. You just need that pressure on top of the heat in order to forge weld steel, you can't do one or the other, it has to be both.
Interesting thing about LOTR is they had skilled forgers making weapons for them. They could have made this work properly.
In defense of the LOTR forging. The movies were already 3 hours long. To make the forging process accurate would have made them much longer and been rather boring to endure. Just saying...
@@shawnstjohn3831 take a camera to their workshops, do some time lapses, chuck in a green screen. It would not have had to being longer or, just a simply pass over with several blades going through a production line at different stages.
I imagine some big armies like Romans, must have used a production line method to produce blades, though the gladius is much smaller
@@shawnstjohn3831 literally just needed 3 seconds of hammering the yellow-hot steel, 2 seconds of grinding on an old stone grinder, and then a proper quench.
Thing is that that isn't what was important for that scene from a filmographical standpoint. That scene wasn't about showing 'this is how you forge stuff', it was about the sheer, pretty much industrialized scale of war that was happening there and the impact it had on the surroundings. And 'look how small this huge tree looks in these surroundings, imagine how many trees it takes to keep this up' and 'look how many blades they're making in even just a single pour', while not making much sense from an actual forging standpoint does a great job at bringing across the message.
Remember these were supposed to be mass produced Orc swords, they're not meant to be high quality. The poor forging techniques aren't necessarily accidental.
It would be interesting to see you make a blade from scratch right from the ore
The last smith is great in the story: he took part in a competition to make a dragon-slaying sword. Everyone else made beautiful pieces of art and whimsical greatswords. He made a big sword-shaped slab that's no sharper than an axe. It's too big to be called a sword. Too big, too thick, too heavy, and too rough, it's more like a large hunk of iron.
But it kills things worse than dragons.
2:20 THANK YOU. I thought I was crazy because literally no one noticed the fact a dwarf picked up a red hot ingot in his hand.
So Alec. There are a lot of videos of restoring post/leg/blacksmith vises. And a lot on how to make a mount for them. But you know what there isn’t (that I can find). A video or series on MAKING a new one. You’ve been doing a make your own tools segment lately. How about making a 5” or 6” (or even an 8”) jaw post vise brand new. Bet that will be fun
As a fellow blacksmith this is wonderful.
Alec steele !! if you want I can make furnishing objects in steel, tell me how they are 😁
I think you need to make a set of damascus darts
Make Damascus chair legs with rubber pads
"the sparks......are beautiful" love it 😆
for the Hobbit one I've always imagined he can do that through some prosthetic metal hand; maybe he lost a hand in some smithing injury and is making the best of things
@Lerithen I think that's the lore from books but it is very inconsistent in the film. Good point though I hadn't thought of that.
Maybe first time he did it was before his prosthetic, hence now the prosthetic
@Lerithen Good point. I found this:
"The Dwarves were created by Aulë to be strong, resistant to fire and the evils of Morgoth."
I wonder what could have caused his smithing injury.... Maybe sticking his hand between two giant hammers?
@@DH-xw6jp most likely 😅
I am delighted to know that team striking is actually a thing. I thought the five dwarves hammering away was just a bit of neat looking nonsense.
Thank you
The vintage team striking clip reminded me of something I noticed in early blacksmithing images.
In historic blacksmith shops, the anvils are almost never attached to their stands.
Anvils must have been used differently in the past, with much lighter blows on the horn and heal, because it's clear that old anvils are not designed to be easily attached to stands. And every modern smith I see nowadays has some jerry rigged system to hold their anvil in place.
About forging with just wood - it works, I do it semi-regularly when I don't want to go to town to buy charcoal. Is it ideal? No, it's much slower. But Ash works great, Maple works too, so I figure most hardwoods would work. You won't get it real hot, but enough to get a decent edge. Just not japanese kitchen knife hard.
Fun fact if you see it Alec, the scene with Mark Whalberg was filmed at Kingdom Forge in Suffolk by a Smith that learnt his trade in Hereford!
2:15 the opening of The Exorcist shows three guys going at a single piece of hot steel with blacksmith hammers.
The legends say that Pythagoras figured out the mathematics of musical intonation from listening to two blacksmiths hammering away at the same piece of iron, with one of their hammers exactly 2/3 the length of the other.
Not so much a video, but there's a passage in Eragon's 3rd book (Brisingr, Spoilers) that deals with the forging of Eragon's new sword from a piece of meteorite. I was always curious about how accurate the description was.
I saw a video from Will Stelter earlier where he was trying to make a guard from wrought iron and bronze. I wonder what a damascus of those two made by Will and Alec would look like?
6:21 They made it out of his soul. What part did you not understand!? xD
The most baffling thing about this whole video is the implication that the blacksmith hasn't seen a single one of the movies in the clips he was shown.
I think you might get a good laugh out of "That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime" when Kurobe is making Shuna's knife. You get to see a little of his technique and equipment, he waxes poetically about the joy of striking iron, and the part where she tries out the knife is...let's just say I don't think your knives will do that. 😂
There are other instances with him and Kaijin blacksmithing throughout the series, but it's always either very short or interrupted by magic nonsense.
a side note I didn't see anyone talk about yet, in the first clip the blacksmith is hardening the katana with the curve already in the blade, this isnt how they are made at all (also didnt see any of the folding and the like) rather the curve is formed after coating the top half in clay to slow its heating and cooling and this make it more flexable when finished
The Smith & the Knight's Tale had a line that kills me every time:
"I've found a new way to heat the steel"
........ You've created a new kind of fire?
watching smiths has made me critical of movies too.. LOL. good on ya bro. I like your perspective. been watching since the early leaky conex days. you've come far amigo. good job.
you're always so happy and positive.
1:35 Havin seen LARPers who do a similar effect on their handles to give them that feel and look; gods yea, that is indeed a long and arduous process
When I saw the swinging hammer forging in The Hobbit, my two thoughts were:
"THAT IS SO COOL!"
followed immediately by:
"BUT IT'S SO DUMB!"
A lot of people are talking about the lotr scene but I do have something to add about the hobbit scene. In chapter 2: Of Aule and Yavana, there is the following passage that gives a description of the dwarves:
"Since they were to come in the days of the power of Melkor, Aule made the Dwarves strong to endure. Therefore, they are stone-hard, stubborn, fast in friendship and in enmity, and they suffer toil and hunger and hurt of body more hardily than all other speaking peoples; and they live long, far beyond the span of Men, yet not for ever. Aforetime it was held among the Elves in Middle-earth that dying the Dwarves returned to the earth and stone of which they were made; yet that is not their own belief."
2:25 in all fairness, dwarves are immune to heat because they are made of stone, so that’s why he’s holding yellow-white steel.
🙌Challenge!🙌 Make something from all the scale & shavings in your workshop
I wish you would have seen the OTHER Samurai Jack forging scene from episode The 4 Seasons of Death, Winter section.
I think the scene was made to try and combine as many sword forging tropes and the results speak for themselves.
“Why is a tree falling…? A-ha! They’re fueling their furnaces with trees, which wouldn’t actually be a dumb thing.”
Courtesy of the lore, that was in fact an extremely dumb thing.
the infinity war scene is even funnier when you consider the smith is making a weapon either out of neutron degenerate matter or magic-conducting McGuffin metal
And what's behind that forge door Thor is holding open, is a neutron star.
veis 3 documentales y ya todos sois expertos herreros, cada dia flipo mas
2:24 HEY! Don't pick on the Dwarven "gravity hammer...thing." I was going to raise the roof of my shop a hundred or so feet and put one in. I'd say there are a few OSHA violations involved with that thing. 🤣
Love the tid bits of corrections and better technique
3:00 sparks ay thats all could see when I attempted using a charcoal forge
In the first clip, the katana was curved before quenching. I'm no blacksmith, but multiple documentaries I've seen all say that the quenching causes the curvature (because the different types of steel shrink differently).
For the scene with Stormbreaker, I always took it as the "handle" holding the two pieces of metal together. Why one would do that I don't know. Maybe like an anti vibration thing? 🤷🏼♂️
Also, it's not steel. It's "the heart of a collapsed star", so neutronium. What's amazing is that using a star like for heat to forge something is a real (theoretical) thing. It's called a Nicoll-Dyson beam. In this case pretty much 100% of the energy of the star is being pushed in that one beam, which you might need for forging neutronium.
The Infinity War scene kind of works. If you know it's a space metal (uru I think) and the forge is a star it could be that it can weld together while not being white hot. Also Groot's branch could also do some hand waving.
The issue with judging LOTR is ...their dwarves. The idea is that it's not only fantasy magic, but that dwarves are supposed to have forging knowledge beyond our comprehension.
Can't wait to see the swinging hammers!
For the Knight’s Tale clip the premise was that she had found some “new way to heat the steel” that wasn’t explained but presumably that was supposed to be why the fire was weird. I don’t know if that was actually the intent of using the natural gas flame but it was actually stated that it wasn’t supposed to be a standard coal flame type of thing.
Please do make an opposed gravity hammer to forge with. That'd be sick as hell
Always happy to see A Knight's Tale being included.
Alec Steele just want to thank you for light a spark in me for forging my dude
I want to make something that you made and have it hang in the shop to show the respect and my gratitude for getting me in to smithing I was wondering if that would be cool with you
i would beg to differ on the cant forge with wood my first forge was a cone shaped fire pit with a significant blower attached not fantastic but burning soft wood scraps from pointing cedar fence posts i heat 3/4 inch steel well past the point of oblivion when i was distracted this was by no means a fine piece of work but for what i needed which was a large number of pintles for hanging gates on the farm it worked perfectly my starting stock was u bolts from dump trucks and admittedly this was 25ish years ago and at that point the only bag coal you could get was Anthracite and was not worth the hassle (same set up with a little fiddling was used to melt and cast bronze one summer same fuel sours) dont get me wrong i have used and own several gas and several coal forges but fuel just needs to be given enough air to burn and then it is just a matter of containing the heat and feeding in more fuel as you go to have a working fire
I don't know if the clips are cut the same way for Alec that we see them, but Eitri is pouring the molten uru into a mold and is punching that to break it open. He's not punching the ax head itself.
Alec. I have your next big sword/weapon-making series. Have you seen any of those new videos where people are reviewing the new Dall-E AI art generator? It creates some amazing art from the user's prompts and can generate objects like swords, all from your imagination. What you can do for some amazing content is to use one of these AI generators, another of which is mid journey, to generate an object and then make that object. You will be amazed at what they generate and I'd love to see you make something that it generates.
Man it's ages since I saw your channel. You are the best.
Don't ever dish a Nights Tale... The sparks are truly Beautiful!!! TFS, GB :)
We do need a good blacksmithing project off you, Alec. Enjoyable as this video is, it's almost bittersweet to have you talking about blacksmithing, because it feels like a long time since you've done a big project, with plenty of forging and narrative about the process.
At least one that could generate 4 x 15 min episodes maybe? The engineering/machining projects have been great, it's just...It's not the same.
So, the Axe they're making in Avengers: Infinity War is Stormbringer, and the metal it's made from is called "Uru." Clearly fictitious, with supernatural properties. It's not surprising that the techniques depicted wouldn't work on normal Earth steel.
Stormbreaker*
Well also him punching it I think was more him breaking away the cast mold not forming any metal. And I don't think groot picking it up fused anything n it's 100% held together just by the strength of the wood he makes... epic clip none the less lol
yeah, him punching the cast mold off is because he cant just open it. Thanos got rid of his hands so man is quiet literally throwing stumps instead of fists there.
@@Faydwarf and because they quickly needed a handle
When will you visit your mate Will? And, why not, not that far from there, Timothy Dyck, the Canuck? 😬😀
im pretty sure there was a forging scene in one of the early nijago episodes. It was 1st season i think. might be good if there is another one of these
"The sparks are beautiful" can be a logo on your next merch t-shirt.
The ‘95 film The Hunted with Christopher lambert has some decent katana forging scenes
Alec, in Avengers Infinity Wars, they weapon making takes place in "outer space", so I think they are trying to imply there is some sort of space welding going on maybe.....Groot and Rocket travel to "Nidavellir" to enlist the help of a dwarf king......and since "we all know" that Dwarfs were expert smelters and forgers.....of course it came out perfect the first time.
"Nidavellir (based on the Norse mythological location of the same name) is an Alderson disk surrounding a dying star, inhabited by gigantic Dwarves who served as blacksmiths for the Asgardians, forging weapons such as Mjölnir, Stormbreaker, and the Infinity Gauntlet out of uru. Sometime between 2014 and 2015, Thanos visits the forge, forcing the Dwarves to make the Infinity Gauntlet before slaughtering them and smelting Eitri's hands. Thor, Groot, and Rocket visit the forge several years later, aiding Eitri in creating Stormbreaker."
Here's one for you to review-one of the videos that got me into forging blades to begin with... the Intro to the original PS1 game, Bushido Blade.
Thanks Alec, now I will pick apart any forging in movies. I hope you are happy.
you can actually achieve a lot of sparks when forging if you use the wet forging technique
I think everyone overlooks how specialized late-medieval weapon crafting was - even modern-day professional blacksmiths working in a forge might not even grasp how every scene with one person forging everything wasn't even a real thing that happened.
A forge would have had the Smith pumping out the blades, an apprentice grinder to hone the soft, forged blades and put them into a pile of swords to be quenched, a dude who did the finishing touches and quenched the blades (usually the highest ranked Smith, where he would put his guild mark), the guys who pinned and crafted the handles, and the person (usually the master grinder) who did the final honing and polishing before being sent out.
There's millennium-old meeting minutes between the guilds that represented all these trades where the tradesmen responsible for making chains were objecting in the guild hall to the armorers guild that their inclusion of top-loops on a breastplate and leggings were unsafe (because they required no Master to validate the integrity of the connections) and reduced their membership participation in the overall armament contract.
If you do another you should look at Superman forging a sword with a bunch of flares in the justice league animated series
I think I said in a comment to your last video on this subject something like "Come ON, these people aren't doing documentaries!" But I do get it: you (obviously) take your craft very seriously and would expect (or **hope**) that it would be represented at least SOMEWHAT accurately (plausibly at the very least).
How can you burn steel while forging, while also being able to melt the steel to a liquid, presumably without burning it?
How much does the steel have to move after pouring to no longer be a weaker cast steel? Because a poured ingot that is turned into a blade is a forged blade. But what is the "ingot" is blade shaped and 25% thicker and shorter than the the finished product? 10% thicker? 100% thicker?
Something you could look up is the DaVinci Power hammer or (let me double check to get it right) The Jessop Tilt Hammer. Apparently they are also called trip hammers?
Does Alec know "The Hobbit" isn't based on real events?
For the next one, maybe the forging scene from "The African Queen", Humphrey Bogart has to fix a rudder by forge welding the pieces using a rock as anvil
On the first scene, one other thing, katanas were quenched straight and bent do to the differential heat treat, which the guy also didn't do.
Been watching your Chanel since the days of hammer making in your og shop. I would like to see you make a nice knife that you could auction off an donate to your favorite cause. Something real nice. Really show off your skills.
I have the same style of table design as you have haha.. DIY at its finest haha
i haven't watched yet but i have a feeling i know how realistic its gonna be
Look up the yt video on how tribes make steel tools ...from finding ore to building the furnace and all
You missed 1 from a brand new movie named Samaritan that was released this month. The villain who is superhuman wants to kill his hero brother so he casts an entire hammer thats about 3 feet long then continues to forge it. He of course then proceeds to dump all of his hate and anger into the hammer so it has a glow.
At 2:48, I couldn't believe you didn't comment on the color of the metal she was hammering. But I guess it was such a brief moment.