Hanway Scrambler 125 Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- Every now and then a bike comes along that really takes me by surprise...and the Hanway Scrambler is one such bike. It may be only a 125cc machine but it looks fabulous, rides well and is cheap as you like to buy and run (£2199 OTR - not as I said in the video!). Here's my initial review of the bike.
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It's great that you also review this type of bike. Everybody loves to interview the newest tricked out high performance machines, but really it is people who are looking for this sort of bike that most need a review.
That is my thinking too Bill! Good to hear from you again!
Great bike, I have only recently sold my Hanway Scramber after passing my test. Rode it everyday all through the winter and it never let me down. Would 100% recommend this bike to someone starting out, build quality on it was surprisingly good!
Cheers Stuart - great to get some owner feedback, appreciated 👍
Hi, where did you buy your hanway from......
Thank you SO MUCH for doing a proper review of this bike - no one really has. I’ve been looking at this for a while now. Love your videos your content is so simple and honest! A really great source for motorbike reviews - Keep it up!
Thank you Tom - much appreciated!
I am not a fan of generic Chinese bikes like these despite the quality slowly improving, but why on earth don't Suzuki /Yamaha / Honda build a little 125 that looks as good as this ?
exactly ! probably not a lot of profit or they would have done it I would have thought ! better way for them is sell their engines
@@bunnydaduk Didn't quite understand your post but are you saying this has a Suzuki motor ? … it hasn't , its a copy of one but not made by Suzuki .
@@WyreForestBiker Are you saying that this engine is likely to have been reverse engineered from a Suzuki one and therefore quite likely to be infringing patents?
If that's the case I would like to think that Suzuki would investigate and given that China is party to international treaties on patent litigation (eg WIPO Paris Convention for the Protection of Industrial Property 1883 and Patent Cooperation Treaty 1970), I wonder whether the importers should be bringing this stuff into the UK?
The patents will have run out by now. This is an engine from 1982. But don't worry each bike comes with a free copy of Duran Durans Rio on cassette 😆
@@returnedtotheearth1326 You're certainly right for older engines as the international patent lasts only 20 years. Interestingly while large Chinese companies themselves file patents, they too are subject to infringements from their own country such is the culture and anarchy in that country. It was estimated recently that of 12 million Japanese motorcycles in China, 7 million are shameless fakes.
Anyone for a cheap Chinese brake pad?
11 thumbs down? I really don't know why some think a vlog like this is rubbish, hardly ever do they put a comment in the comment section stating why, I'd love to know. Maybe they passed their test years ago and have no Ned for a 125cc or maybe they are just not liking the fact it's Chinese. Neither of these reasons or any other I can think of warrant a thumbs down as your vlogs reach out to all riders new and old.
Yeah I don't think there should be a thumbs down option. My guess would be because it's a brand new bike with an engine from 1982 in it and it's getting praise. It shouldn't be praised in my opinion.
I had a Honda Varadero125 a few years back. Coming from my third 'Busa it was so much fun. Enough power to make you smile, not enough power to get you in to trouble.
yep, I still got my Vara - the older Carb one ('04); Love it
I stuck a USB socket on it for the satNav and a Low Fuel warning light (as the earlier versions like mine never had 'em).
First year of passing my test and riding a bigger bike , but surprisingly miss my little 125 ,it was so easy to ride and great fun ,
love your enthusiasm Mr Flyer ,for these little bikes,just proves you don’t need a litre bike to have fun on two wheels.😀🇬🇧🏍.
ive gone back to a 125 cheaper and more fun
terrytrooper2 I’m thinking of getting a cheapish one for the summer just for nipping about and the big one for longer rides. Had a little FB Mondial 125 ,it was brilliant,all bikes are fun.ride safe 😀🇬🇧🏍
These things look great but I've done the Chinese cheap bike thing and I'd never go that route again... I sold it before doing any motovlog on/about it, but believe me, it was painful to own... Which is a shame, because these things, much like the Mondial bikes, are a lot cooler than what Yamaha / Suzuki / Honda are offering at the moment.
Undeniably stylish little bike. I'm not sold on Chinese bikes just yet but they often get accused, rightly in many cases, of blatantly ripping off other manufacturers designs, but this looks quite original and a lot better than many of the bigger companies offerings.
Nice looking bike.
And you're right, that exhaust looks great!
Doesn’t it!
Great value bike. These 125cc motorcycles get better and better. I took out the Herald Scrambler last week. Loved it.
Cheaper than mountain bikes
Great review, as always. Its brilliant that you test a diverse range of bikes. IMO, lovely looking machine. Keep well and thank you for your vids.
Thank you for watching!
Nice review of a cracking little 125. If it's got two wheels and an engine then it's good enough for me. Cant abide the snobbery that some big bike owners seem to have. Many years ago my wife wanted to get in to biking. Spent ages looking at second hand 125s. The majority had been either ragged to death, dropped or had no maintenance, or all 3! Ended up buying a Hongdou 125. Basically a cb125 . 800 quid on the road, delivered to the door ready to go! Mechanically it was excellent, the fit and finish left a little to be desired. The rubber gaiters on the clutch cable, for example, perished within months and the wheel bearings didn't last much longer. Having said that, it got my Mrs. on the road and clocked up some serious mileage, winning a few long distance learner trophies at a several rallies. Sold it at 2 years old for £500. Including the bits and Bob's that we replaced and servicing, about 450 squid for 2 years biking. I'll lose 3 times that amount as soon as I ride my new bike off the forecourt next week! Might even get something like this myself for pottering about and when the weathers crap to save the Triumph from the elements.
Exactly right Paul - these bikes do have their place, and in the case of this one looks cool too!
Front end looks like an early 80's Yamaha DT 125.
I was thinking 1980s as well with the 1960s in parts too. And rather handsome all the way around with some compelling details. One of these second hand with some service records would be a steal.
Thank you for posting. A very nice looking bike. Looks like a crazy good value.
When you consider what £2K of BMW options/extras buys, it puts the value of these bikes into perspective, especially if parts were to come from the same factory as BMW (Loncin and the like). A great review, especially for the TMF subscribers this type of machine might suit. Cheers TMF!
I agree Ray - depreciation taking a bike out of the bmw showroom would be more than the cost of this!
Good review TMF
I've owned one for about 10months now. The engine is a 152fmi which is a version of the Honda cb125f's engine.
A very good looking little machine that looks great value and good fun . You're right about the pipe it's a real cool , smart looking job. Would be a great starter bike that you could be proud of.
Excellent review as always of fab little bike. Reminds me of my Honda CB125 and how much fun it was XX years ago. Admire your enthusiasm .Great that you treat all bikes the same when reviewing. Keep up the good work.
Cheers!
Like the prejudice people have against Indian made motorcycle like duke 390 or Royal Enfield is unwarranted and having owned both as you said if you look after them they will look after you. Great looking little bike that scrambler!
I agree!
Lovely looking bike. People moan about Chinese bikes but a bike like this would be perfect for just pottering around the lanes on and to get young un's into motorcycle. You got the price wrong though. It's Just under £2200 for the scrambler and the Hanway Raw (road version) is £1800. Much better value than the mutt mongrel you reviewed and can carry out the customisation yourself and still have plenty of change. You once mentioned you fancied a project. Would make a great series on your channel, Project TMF!! Keep up the great videos and ride safe.
Yes sorry £2199 OTR - my mistake...
Sorry forgot the AJS Scrambler, that would also be a good one to review. 👍🏽
Great looking little bike, classic look,
U should do a classic series, ML, KMX, GPZ, ZZR, FJ, GSXR, ENDLESS GREATS 😀
I have said similar on a few posts myself. His relaxed informative style would (in my opinion) be ideal to review some classic 70's and 80's machines. Would love his take on a Z1300 or a first gen GL1000 Wing. Maybe even a FS1E.....reckon he could even get sponsorship from classic bike insurers too.....
That's a great idea and something I would really enjoy watching too. I have a soft spot for late 70's to early 90's motorcycles. They had a lot more sould and character back then.
@@perrannormanshire8783 and narrow tyres that took a lot of bottle to go fast on....lol
Gland your still doing 125 cc bike reviews enjoyed that aged 44 and love 125cc there so cheep to run
my 125 is more fun to ride them my 600 cbf
Great looking little bike and good to see you reviewing some of these budget bikes. Nothing like this existed when I was a novice 17 year old otherwise I'm sure they would have sold well. Shame the big Japanese companies can't produce something as good looking. I recognise that the build quality of these Chinese machine is still behind that of the Japanese and European machines, but its getting better and is probably no worse than levels on Japanese machines a decade or so back. I also think you touched on a relevant point in that, because they're so cheap, maybe owners don't lavish so much care and attention on them as they would on a more expensive bike, hence they often look a bit ratty. Good review, keep up the good work.
Thank you Gareth - will do....
Good, relevant review, I own several bikes, just sold my 50cc Lexmoto scooter, and my AJP 125 trail bike, so the smallest I have now is a 350, and the largest a 900cc, but I will be correcting that situation as the small ones are definitely the most fun!
Good value bike, be good for a second ride 👍😎
Agree 😃
Watched a video of a man abroad. Took this bike down fire tracks and through mud. Never offered to stop. Even up muddy slopes. Capable little machine. Think it was Bulgaria can't remember it was last year. Good review, will you be doing a long term review. ?
That bike looks great! It definitely has style and.... i actually like that exhaust, probably a first for me.
The speedogear at the frontwheel are one of the few things that might stop working. Anyway, easy to replace. You might concider changing the injector from its original 060 to 070. The Monkey 125 have actually a 080 injector, so the Hanway runs quite lean. You will see this when you check the spark plug.
Another good review TMF. Not much to these little bikes but it is very much appreciated that you include ALL bikes on your channel, not just the more advanced machinery. Maybe a speed tester app on the mobile might be handy for the future as I have to agree this looked more like kph when you were zipping along on the national speed limit road at the start. Great looking bike and the exhaust did come across ok on the audio:)
Cheers Simon - yes defo a dicky speedo on that bike, but that notwithstanding a brilliant little machine I thought....
@@TheMissendenFlyer Agreed and I would take one of these for looks any day of the week over my little cbf. Might look like a guerrilla on a trike tho as I'm 6"4😅
Nice to see a bike with a stock, well thought out number plate hanger. It looks great and seems like a bargain. Good review again TMF, thanks.
Thanks Colin....
pretty sweet looking wee bike, and for that price its worth a go.
I agree that it does look great and would make an ideal first bike. The only fault is the front mudguard that stops behind the forks. Even from your ride, you can see the amount of muck thrown up onto the engine and adding an extension doesn't look possible? Great review as ever though TMF.
Great looking machine. 125's don't sell in the USA so we'll probably never see it. 250cc minimum for Americans to be interested.
Thank you Sir; 70km/hr = 43.5 miles/hr ; 55km/hr= 34.2 miles /hr. Multiply km by .621 An amazing looking bike. Thanks again.......Sal : )
I like the looks of it. Good review tmf. Thanks danny
Really love the looks of this bike. Spoilt for choice now if you're looking for a cheap small capacity bike. Cheers..
With the tank shape and red slash it reminds me of the old BSA Trail Blazer
Nice little bike, very impressed by the low weight and price. Great review as always, cheers :-)
love it , looks like a perfect 2nd bike commuter leave the vstrom for touring , go to work on this..fun and function now i miss my old xl25o..👍🏻☮❤
I've been trawling the current range of Japanese lightweight bikes and can't find anything similar to the Chinese offerings.So if you like this style of bike, but are wary of buying Chinese, the Japanese don't seem to have an answer. They don't seem to offer lt/wt trail bikes anymore? No DT350/125/175 etc. And anyway, seat height often an issue for some folks on those. I wonder if many of these models will be taking rides with the TRF as they would seem ideal. This bike is on a Masai badge and priced at 2500 euros here (France), I live right next to forest tracks and trails, and am tempted. I've done some on my Honda Dominator but its bloody hard work, in fact, it was easier going down one on my Harley!!!!!!!!!!. The Japanese may well catch up-you young pups were not about when The Japanese lt/wt bikes hit the UK -learners could ride a 250cc back then, their bikes bought affordable NEW bikes in and Motorcycling was fun again, F Fwd and bring on the mega bikes and it all got too serious again. Fact is, if it has two wheels and an engine, its a hoot, and the above bike does not need a massive outlay to get in the breeze.
What a nice looking little bike.
I agree!
Thanks TMF, laying in bed after hand surgery needing something new to view.👍🏍😀
Hope you get better soon!
If your'e recovering from hand surgery in bed be careful on the internet around porn sites! 😂😂
A little rude, but pragmatic.😮
Fella, maybe my interpretation is wrong but it feels like you're scraping the barrel for subject matter a bit lately.
Chinese 125's are not the way to attract people in - but that's only my opinion of course.
Sure you'll get people that like 'em and so forth but really, they are pretty off piste.
Are there any more tours coming up?
Any more flights?
Vlogs
There's only so much interesting material in a single viewpoint review of a Chinese 125.
Sorry.
(p.s. I fully appreciate that I get to view and comment for free so I do appreciate the effort all you guys put in, thank you.
So I hope my comments are constructive, if maybe a bit harsh.
Sorry again)
Funnily enough I’m on a tour currently - bonjourno from Tuscany 🇮🇹...videos coming soon...
@@TheMissendenFlyer buongiorno to you too
I commute into London each day and to be honest my CBF 125 is much more suited to that type of work than my VSTROM, one of these type of bikes with a 350cc or similar would be the sweet spot.
Would love to hear your review about Zontes bike, another chinese-made bike. The built quality of their bike is outstanding.
I've had my Chinese 50cc scooter for one year now (lexmoto) and I can't fault it.
day after day, week in week out its being used for commuting in all weathers and for much of the year its done a 40 mile round trip commute.
and it costs peanuts to run, insure etc
That is a cool looking bike! Wonder if they sell them over here in the US? If it was a 250 it would be cool.
Take a look at Tekken Fuego 250. Original Chinese patent.
There is a hanway scrambler 250, it looks nicer as the exhaust is different though
The best thing about the 'good old days' was the looks of the bikes and the ability to de-restrict 125cc bikes; can any modern 125cc be made to product more power or does EFI render this impossible?
Hell if I know!!! Sorry!
The settings for the speedo can be changed to mph I know this as i chatted to a guy who parked up next to me today we started chatting as I was on my herald scrambler so compared them.
Actually quite a smart scrambler cross cafe racer. Looks quality for the price for sure.
Great review. Cheap as chips but you get a decent bike for your money ! cant ask for much more really !
Looks ok. My local dealer used to sell Chinese bikes, but no longer, as they were so bad, few years back though...
They are improving all the time!
Looks nice sounds good it's fast enough and it a good price can't go wrong . .
Looks pretty sharp! And the bike as well, not just you ;)
I agree, don`t knock until you try. I remember what we said about Datsun back in the day. Now look at Nissan, Toyota, Kia etc etc etc
Datsun were shit when they first came on the market, but they soon uped their game and produced some great cars, I was a mechanic way back then at a BMC and Datsun dealership, maybe the Chinese will go the same way but I would wait a few years before investing in one
You do realise this bike has a copy of a 1982 Suzuki engine in it? So a near 40 year old design. That's where China are. Just taking an old out of patent design and banging it out on the cheap. If a Japanese or European manufacturer came out with a new bike and stuck that engine in it they would be laughed out the building.
@@returnedtotheearth1326 you are 100% correct, but look what happened to the UK car industry. Maybe, China will do the same. I fu@ken hope not
Great looking bike TMF. Reminds me of my old tiger cub scrambler. Bigger engine would be great
What's a Hanway? About 3 pounds. Sorry ,bad old joke. I love the look of this bike. It's cool to see bikes that we don't get here in the States.
Another great review keep up the great work. If you could do a review on the Honda msx 125 👍🏽
The problem, in my opinion, with these chinese bikes isn't that they are badly made , most of them these days are ok, the problem is that they cost too much for what they are, some of them already costing £3.500 to £4.000 , for the same money I can buy japanese and it will keep its value unlike most chinese bikes.
The times are a changing!
Great review again...! What a nice little cheap fellow. :) Cheers
Great to see that just because it's cheap they didn't forget to design it nicely aesthetically
Yeah all the exposed non insulated wiring comes as part of the package 😉
@@returnedtotheearth1326 Bang on. One of the many cost saving methods which will come back to bite the buyer on the arse, in costing more in the long run.
@@returnedtotheearth1326 I did say aesthetically 😉 I didn't notice any non insulated wires. That would be a bare wire... maybe not what you meant?
Yeah I meant more from a weather protection point of view. I was recently reading various comments from Hanway owners who were complaining of electric faults due to rusting of the connectors and causing a whole host of issues in a very short period of time. Another guy who brakes seized after 300 and then had a fault with the ECU after 700. Another who's speedo stopped working after 500. Etc. The list went on. Quality bit of kit 😆 I know all bikes can have issues but it appeared a lot of problems particularly electrical within a few miles of ownership tells me it's junk, albeit cheap junk.
@@returnedtotheearth1326 My ones speedo got water ingress and had to be replaced, that water got into the speedo drive via speedo, was replaced under warranty but brakes and everything else been good so far and mines coming up for 2 years old now. I keep mine lubricated with gt85 and sometimes acf50 though as it gets used in heavy rain a lot.
Great little bike good value for money too.
Also they rust like a cnt, the chip in my kick stand censor kept kicking me off my bike at 40 mph, as it got rusted up and had to by pass it. Mirror came off in my hand had to replace the chain at 900 miles! You guess it rusted to fck! The battery not holding charge so we’re looking into it! Other than that a really good bike 😂🎉
That looks lovely!
Seen the Bullit bikes TMF?
Hey Miz! What’s a hen weigh? About 2 kilos! Sorry, couldn’t resist.
Just need to give it a coat of ACF50 occasionally, and a weekly or bi-weekly wash, dry and coat of GT-85 and it should last.
I be interested when these Chinese move into 250’s
All seems like the early 1960’s all over again.
Thank you for your review.
Yes I reckon 250cc would be the sweet spot....
There already is a hanway scrambler 250 on the hanway uk website, looks slightly different though.
As said in your review, deffo a very cute and smart looking bike. However, the speedo reading in kmh would be a deal breaker for me.
You can change it to mph by pushing the button on the speedo that also resets the trip meter
Must admit I like the style. If I was 17 again, which would take some thinking back, would I buy this or a "Japanese" 125cc for around £2,900, especially as Honda UK is currently offering 0% over two years? Probably neither, as I'd buy something second hand, pass my test and trade up to a 47bhp (UK riders) that would still give me around 80mpg.
Good review.Would love you to try the Lexmoto Michigan.it looks like a baby Sportster!
Nice little bike, TMF. It's way too low and underpowered for my size and weight, but it looks and sounds quite nice.
disekjoumoer I’m 6ft3 and 16 stone and it’s a really comfy bike for me,but sadly there is nothing can be done about the lack of power,it is what it is,ideal for 17 year olds getting into biking,or a good commuter for shorter distances for people with a full license and keep your main bike for the nice weather .
Bike looks good, been on the market for a commuter. Is the speedo km/h? Cos I am sure I saw you cruising at 70+ at the beggining of the video.
Oops you said it at the very end hahaha
How easy is it to fit a 125 in a car boot. Not getting rid of my car and am moving where i live quite a bit. Being able to put it in the boot and take it to the next base is pretty much the only way i could keep a weekend machine
I used to be more of a fan of the cafe racers but now I prefer the scramblers, this one is alot more realistically priced too, and it is cute this one. How many miles did you put in on the sinnis scrambler? Also what gloves are you wearing here? Thanks ☺
Those are my weise gloves - checkout my review!
Guess the seat is too small for 2 persons? (better of with the mongrell then i think?) thanks
I get 125s for city riding and learner stuff but watch the economy here as parts for a Honda cb 125 are all over the place and cheap but for these it's not so simple. I was in a bike shop and the owner said sorry , I don't provide parts for Chinese bikes...
You can buy any part for the hanway bikes from the motogb website, they are basically hanway.
Hi mate, when your oxford laminated suit gets wet does it retain the water? Quick to dry out? Or does it wick away direct upon water , fun little bike by the way
Tends to run off mostly and if it does get soaked it dries fairly quickly - good suit - did you see my review? th-cam.com/video/NGj6-4ZPEdQ/w-d-xo.html
wow... cant see anything wrong with that, looks GREAT, did it have tapered bars too?
Err can’t recall - don’t think so....but it is a cool looking machine!
The speedo looks like a Acewell copy. The acewell can be calibrated for different size wheels, I doubt the copy could :-D
Great vid once again, saw these a while back and it seems they ride as good as the look! I can't find it for sub £2199 new tho - can anyone point me in the right direction for the 1850 price?
My error - 2199 OTR...apologies
@@TheMissendenFlyer thanks :) keep up the great work on these small bike reviews!
First time I have heard you comments affected by bumps, but still smoother than old Sportster. Nice looking machine...is Hanway the model or brand or neither?
It’s the brand - the model is “Scrambler” 125
China used to have a terrible name with the quality their manufacturer products ,and to be honest it was honestly deserved .But now they are at last realising their mistakes and just because a bike is small it doesn’t mean that it can’t be good, and if they continues to improve the build quality they could go a long way. Look at the Honda 90 voted a few years ago the best bike in the world
If you had the choice, would it be the Sinnis Scrambler or this Hanway? Thanks for another great review. Another Chinese bike well worth a look is the Benelli TRK 502, especially the "X" model. Any chance of a review on that bike? Cheers, Phil.
I think the Hanway - just felt a bit bigger....
My first experience of linked brakes was on my guzzi spada back in the 70's, the system was excellent, I wonder if riders new to this feature are using it correctly?? -on the guzzi, you used the " rear brake" first then brought in the "front" a second or so after, so I assume thats how todays ones should be operated? you might find the brakes are better than they seem-dunno. However, super brakes on a light bike with knobbly tyres is probably not a good idea. Lack of a bash plate bit disappointing but should be easy to knock one up, but you won't be going anywhere too dodgy with the low slung zorst anyway. The first Chinese 125s I saw looked great but sounded hideous and the gearboxes were a bag of bolts, most dealers dropped the marque -Leonart- pretty quickly , but now, I would have less qualms about a Chinese bike.
Looks great. Cracking value for money. can the speedo be changed to MPH! Reminds me of the 80's Yamahas too.
Yes the button on the Speedo will change the display to mph
That's a nice Bike as much as Chinese bikes get a bad rep ones like this really help turn the tide
102kg is impressively light
Long term reliability, spares and service backup?
particularly suspension
same clock as on my bullit spirit and if its one of the early ones then its way out mine was reading 30mph gps was 39mph and the gaps got bigger the faster you went .and you can alter it to show mph/kph by pressing and holding the button
I measured mine against a gps sat nav and it is around 3 mph out which isn't too bad. At higher speeds, 50+ mph or higher it can be as much as 5 mph out the faster you go though for some reason. But up to about 50 its about 3 mph different.
How was the auto blipper 😀👍
Could you check out the genata cs 125, I love the look of it but I'm not sure if it's going to be as good quality as my Peugeot scooter... Cheers
Amazing price for something so cool 😀
I think the speedos on those are set to Cm/Minute 😆😉
Would love you to test a fj1200 and give your opinion of a bike from the 80s.
What about spare parts ? Are they readily available in this country, or do you have to order em from China ?
You can buy any parts from motogb website here in the uk, prices seem good too as I bought a new side panel a few months back and I think that was 30 pound delivered next day.
It may be cheeper and cheeper to insure than my 19 R125 but I’d still not trade it for any other 125 let alone a Chinese one.
Any chance you'd be able to test a Bullit Hero 125?
I'm hoping for the 250! They look brilliant don't they.....(I am talking to their PR people about getting one)....